i flashed 2005 today and i am running 500x9 without any problems. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
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i flashed 2005 today and i am running 500x9 without any problems. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
Hi im new to the forums, and basically after a little advice. Im running a q9550 EO, 1.2 vid chip at 3.6ghz (8 hrs small FFT stable) on the settings below.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...55036ghzv2.jpg
bios rev, 1406
8.5x425
fsb-nb, 333mhz
ram at 510mhz ddr2, 5-5-5-15
vcore, 1.21250
pll, 1.54
nb, 1.14
vtt, 1.14
vdimm, 2.02
gtl's on auto.
Currently running blend test, all good so far. Looking to hopefully hit 4ghz eventually, my main concern is the chip voltages, ie pll, vtt and nb, and how far i might have to go on theese. This is the first 45nm cpu ive used after previously having a q6600 clocked @3.8ghz on air. Many thanks for any advice.:)
Ave,
I've got a big problem. I flashed to Ket's Modded BIOS and that didn't help either. My video encoding applications are crashing unless I'm on Stock. I tried 2001, 2005 and Ket's Modded BIOS and the same result with all of them -- Crashes on OC'ing ... Stable on Stock.
So I decided to go back to BIOS 1406 on which all my OC Settings worked and I had stability with all my Encoding applications for months now. (This all started the moment I upgraded 1406 -> 2005; Bad Idea!)
Anyways - When I try to flash 1406 --> It says:
"The version of ROM is older then the existing Board"
It *Only* gives me this error when I try to flash down t0 1406 ... it doesn't give me this error on Any Other BIOS (Including 1702 & 1805). This is preposterous. The one BIOS I want to flash to, it won't let me.
I'm using EZ Flash in the BIOS to flash BIOS.
What do I have to do to get 1406 back on my Motherboard??
Why r u not posting your problems direct in Ket´s modded Bios Thread ? I think u will get more help either answers from Ket himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
Because I'm not interested in Ket's modded BIOS. All I'm interested in at this point is down-flashing to 1406. If that is successful & my Applications stop crashing on OC Settings; I'll then pursue the thought of up-flashing to a newer BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
PM me your email. I had to use an ES version of afudos to flash back to 1406. I can also send you the HP USB format tool and the files to make your USB stick like a bootable DOS floppy. Thats how I had to flash to 1406.Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
Anyways PM me if you want me to send that to you.
Are you just loading your OC profile with the newer bios versions?
Definately need all that! Thanks a ton mate. Email PM'd!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
No, I'm actually manually entering all the values. I don't quite honestly trust the OC Profile. Should I use the profile instead?
Thanks.
Cool I just sent everything to you. If you do use the /PBNC /N extension you will lose your OC profile settings but it may be a good idea. Good Luck :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
Thanks a ton mate. Emailed you back.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
I'll prefer to wipe out everything clean & start fresh. Always a good idea.
Good stuff, I just emailed you back. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
I'm doing some tests these days with a p5q-dlx+8500 E0
actually i'm trying to find out which is the best bios.
2001 : 500x8.5 , 1.3vcore , 1.2 NB (NB GTL .620), 1,2 vFSB , 1.52PLL , PL=10 , all others to minimum setting = STABLE@orthos blend+small (aprox 2H)
2005 : -//- same settings , @ orthos = pc bsod after 20min blend.
So...whats the best bios for E0 cpus ? 2001 ?xmm
Guys you can't trust that the values between different bios versions will be the same with out a DMM. Look at the reports of vDimm overvolting on most bios versions and being fixed on a couple. The same settings that are stable on one bios might not work on another.
@bababooeyHTJ: can´t i find the ES version of afudos ? where did u get it ? because it is not possible to go back to 1406 with the asus afudos :mad:
edit: done.. got the vers. 2.36 ES
new bios out:
P5Q Deluxe BIOS 2201
Update Express Gate to v1.4.6.9
not sure how a 1.18MB bios file can updates express gate :confused:
they also haven't listed the new express gate update to the 'utilities' section. not sure what this bios update is about, maybe someone can fill us in.
In any case, I was having serious trouble, I suspect because I was using a modded BIOS (for OS X). Basically nothing was working properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya_au
So I updated to this BIOS and everything is back to normal.
i have used bios 2101 of asus.
main P5Q-E.
i have 8gb ram (4x2gb) gskill. F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ...
i can not run all 8gb on my system. because prime95 always fail.
but i run 4gb ram, it works well...
how can i run all 8gb on system...
thanks
Sadly :(, I have cold boot problems with a P5Q Deluxe and a pair of Ballistix Tracer 800 (2x1GB, 16FD3)
It doesnt matter which of the settings do I change in the BIOS, or the color of the slots that I use, it just dont post after a couple of hours turned off. Everytime that this happens, I need to put a pair of Patriot 2x512 667, enter the OS, shutdown and put the ballistix for them to work. With the Patriot AND the Ballistix the system will post, but just to bring me a BSOD in the first boot, after that the system is rock solid (2 Hours of Orthos and 10 pass IBT Standard)
Here are my actual BIOS settings :
I've also tried :Quote:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
CPU Voltage: 1.2875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.63
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.18
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.18
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
FSB: 450
Strap: 333
Ram: 1080
TRFC: 50,55,60 and 65
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
PL: 10
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.26
BIOS: 1406, 1702, 1805, 2001, 1406m, 1805m, 2001m and the last 2201
And it's still a no go after a couple of hours with the computer turned off :(.
Any help will be appreciated :D
PD: Sorry for my bad english
Tried upping NB voltage, loosening TRFC value to eg 60 or higher ? Better to post ya bios settings so we can have a lookQuote:
Originally Posted by tien113
Quote:
Originally Posted by asabaraba
Try this for a change, prolly more FSB term voltage required :
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.3
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Hello guys,
I'm trying to overclock my Q9650 :
Asus P5Q deluxe bios 1306
Q9650 (9*467MHz ) + Ifx14-10 with scythe Slisptream 1200rpm
2*2Gb Gi-Skill Pi Black 8500
POV 8800 GTS640
PSU : Corsair HX520
stable under OCCT and LinX
I would like to have your help. Do you see values that I should avoid (too high to get something safe) or improvements that should be done?
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: x9,0
FSB Frequency: 467MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 100MHz
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: 935MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 45
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control : DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: DISABLED
AI Clock Twister: MODERATE
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level: 10
All Pull-Ins: ENABLED
CPU Voltage : 1,30000
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2) : AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,50
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,28
DRAM Voltage : 1.80
NBridge Voltage : 1.26
NBridge GTL Reference : AUTO
SBridge Voltage : 1,10
PCIE SATA Voltage : 1,50
Load Line Calibration : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
CPU Clock Skew : NORMAL
NBridge Clock Skew : NORMAL
Any help would be appreciate.
Thank you in advance.
Try to get the rams off the 1:1 Divider, I would settle at 450FSB and run them at 1081. I needed some GTL tweaking at the NB to get the quad stable...even more with 500FSBQuote:
Originally Posted by scharnhorst
Some remarks : Your TRFC is too tight for 2Gb dimms, same for the clock twister Moderate : a bit too stressfull for the dimms... with 1:1 divider
Try the above changes in BOLD first and see what gives... I would run Memtest and try test 7 first for NB GTL tweaking, if that passes try test 5. If both pass 5 runs then it's ram stable, if not more tweaking is required...
Thank you very much for your help.
Il will try this values.
Nevertheless may I ask you why are you advising 1.52v for CPU PLL Voltage . There is no risk for my cpu with such value (H24 use)?
:yepp:
no worries, FSB term and Vcore are considered as more dangerous, not PLL mate... if everything is well cooled no biggie
thinh is these P45's are far easier to get stable when you ar enot on the 1:1 divider eg I had a very hard time to stabilise my quad at 500FSB with the rams at 1000mhz, with the rams at 1200mhz it was a 5 minute job...
As for your bios I would upgrade to at least 14series... I don't own this mobo anymore so it would be better to ask the current users which is the best bios for your quad...
Why do people consider too much PLL to be dangerous? What exactly would that cause?
Im interested in this also, im currently running 1.54 PLL, 1.26 NB AND 1.4 VTT, have my EO q9550 at 3.8ghz (8.5x425) i was at 3.6ghz on the same settings (except vcore which i bumped to 1.21875 in bios) i had a few issues running prime blend until i switched cpu margin enhance to performance, which really helped. Last night i upped the FSB to 450mhz, ran small FFT for almost 5 hours without issue. Ive had this board since release but at that time i had a q6600 which i took to 3.8ghz on air pretty easily, this 45nm quad i have now seems a bit trickier to get right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
my board died the other day for no apparent reason, fans on, lights on, just flashes p182 case power light, doesnt even post bios. Initially I thought it was just a gone to sleep in V64 issue.
went through everything, hard reset, cmos, 1 stick ram, 1 video card, reset cpu, checked with new PSU
Asus agree board dead and RMA time arrrgggh,
no symptoms or problems, working one night, next morning no power up
Anyone has any idea why my P5Q Deluxe doesn't allow me to set vcore below 1.2500?! My Q9400's VID is 1.1750 BTW.
I'm using latest 2201 BIOS, but this hasn't changed anything. with the previous BIOSes it was the same: below 1.2500 is only AUTO setting...
Have you tried to reflash the bios and pop the battery for an hour after the succesfull flash ? would try 1406 Bios mate.
Hi Leeghoofd,Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Not for an hour, no. Just took it out for like 5 or 10mins once. Didn't work.
You think an hour would make a difference? I'll try it anyway...
What I have tried was to flash it to an earlier BIOS, but EZ Flash doesn't let me do it, tells me it's an older one. Will try it again, 'though.
But this should work with the latest BIOS, right? I've seen people in this thread talking about 1.21-ish vcores and they're running 2005 or the likes. This simply doesn't make sense to me.
Other than that, the board is running fine and I'm very happy with it. But I just know that this CPU will run 3.6Ghz with a lower vcore and I'd like to try it. Anyway, if it doesn't work at all, it's no biggie...
Thanks for the help!!
Your Dlx has got 2 bios chips, I would swap the left with the right. Then flash without any OC ( just set Ram voltage to the correct value) to 1406 and hopefully it will be fixed then... really sounds like a corrupt flash to me
I have gotten 8GB stable on my P5Q Deluxe with 1406 bios for quite some time. I have upgraded to 2101 recently and it seems to work well too. However the BIOSes between 1406 and 2101 were not stable with my Q9450.
What are your settings?
I was unable to get my memory stable at above 950 Mhz with 4 dimms populated.
Here are my settings for Q9450 @ 3.72
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 465
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 931
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.675
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.675
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.4
NB GTL Reference: 0.645
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Quote:
Originally Posted by tien113
I didn't know you could swap the BIOS chips!! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I'll try that if it's safe for the board. Thanks for all the help!!!!
here is my bios setting... i use Q6600@3.2ghz, bios 2101 of asus...
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Light
Peformance Level: 8 or 10
CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.67
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.67
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.4
NB GTL Reference: 0.59
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
i try to increase Row Refresh Cycle Time to 60. but it does the same, not stable...
i try to increase vNB to 1.5v, my system boots into windows and freeze...
now, i run with 6gb ram so good with this setting but with 8gb, my system is not stable ...
Hi Caped CrusaderQuote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
You can downloadgrade your BIOS by using AFUDOS Engineering version.
Use in pure DOS.
type command like this
AFUDOS236U /iXXXX.rom /pbnc /n ; XXXX.rom = BIOS File you want to update
Please downnload AFUDOS236ES as below
http://www.4shared.com/file/11738888...UDOS236es.html
Have you tested each stick seperately ? could be one dimm is not 100%; Also 1.4Nb voltage for just 400FSB is way too much, these P45 chipsets are very itchy temp wise...drop down to 1.26-1.3.
Also since you are having ram issues why boost performance level ?
Plus why don't you leave all GTL values at auto ?, I hardly think CPU tweaking is involved for just a mere 3.2Ghz, same for FSB term and CPU PLL... you are just pumping volts.
AUTO really does magic on these boards...
i tested a pair of ram in every a pair of dimm. it works so good. :dQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
ram is new...:d
i always keep vNB is 1.3v. i try to increase vNB to 1.4v to keep stable but unsuccessful...
perfornmance level is 8, works good for a pair of ram but 2 pair of ram is not. although, i leaves it auto. it also dont work good for 2 pairs of ram...
i tested with cpu. it is so good with this volt.
the problem only is ram (4 dimms).
Guys got a new CPU, i've lost hope on my Quad Xeon to reach 4ghz.. anyways i have a Q9550 E0. Any suggestion on the settings for a 500x8.5..? im new in 45nm. im not yet familiar on the voltages regarding 45nm processor.. any inputs will very much appreciated..
here's my system specs:
Intel Q9550 E0
Asus P5QDLX 1702
Dominator 1066mhz 2x1gb rev. 1.2
Noctua U12P with 2x silverstone FM121
MSI Radeon HD4850 850/1150
Corsair HX620
:)
You have to tweak the FSB Term and the NB GTL value then, also loosen TRFC value as with 4 dimms you are stressing the NB harder than with 2. More volts for the NB isn't always the solution. First try to find the lowest FSB Term and NB volt value for 2 dimms and work from there. For the ram subtimings don't push Light or co leave all them values AUTO, just put static read control to disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by tien113
Remember these P45 chipsets are very volt/heat sensitive
I can recommend the new Memtest 2.11. Google that program, create a bootable cd. Launch it and run test 7 first. Let it run for a few passes, then go Test 5. If both are error free then you find the sweetspot for your mobo.
I think you are asking a bit too much and would haven been far better off with a Q9650 mate. Most of the latest 9450/9550 seem to be very dud clockers. Be realistic and aim for a real value like eg 475FSB. Also these boards run far better with a divider then with 1:1. So if you aim for 500FSB and the rams at 1000mhz it's far harder to stabilise. I had great succes once I could get the ram of the divider , but for 500FSB you need rams that can do 1200mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Padol_Inc
Take it slow, burn that cpu in and get to know how ya CPU reacts to volts ( especially FSB term voltage ) and the GTL's. Work ya way up. You will prolly need 1.35FSB Term to get that CPU stable. Don't push her immediately to 500FSB, it will prolly not work. Take your time and report back with ya progress and some bios settings would be nice to see what you are doing...
Thanks leegh.. i was just hoping that 500FSB is possible.. =) will keep you posted. thanks again..
Thanks for the advice man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
But the problem was one of the sticks...it was dead
Yesterday the computer didn't want to boot at all , so I test them again one stick at a time, and one of them didn't want to post :(
So I bought a pair of OCZ 8500 LV 2x2GB and problem solved :up:
Hey guys
I'm getting the P5Q Deluxe (together with Q9550) in a few days, and have been doing some research, so I'm ready to configure and setup my system asap when I get it.
I will for sure update the bios to 2201. But I'm wondering about one thing.
I prefer to use afudos to update the bios, and all the guidelines I've read tells;
-to make a bootable floppy
-put the "afudos.exe" on that floppy
-in addition the "bios.rom" file on that floppy
But (sorry for my french), how the h*** can you fit all those files on the same floppy, when the bios alone is 2mb and the floppy is limited to 1.44mb? :confused:
Can you make 1 floppy "bootable" with the "afudos.exe" in it, and another with the "bios.rom" file in it? and does both need to be "bootable"? But then again, the "2201" bios is still 2mb and cannot fit onto a floppy.
For the record, I don't have a USB stick available.
Also, if you know which is the latest "afudos.exe" available, provided with a download link - I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
Hi tentp0le,Quote:
Originally Posted by tentp0le
you make life complicated for yourself, you really must use ASUS EZFlash feature built into BIOS (look for it). Ok so you don't have USB drive (?) then why not use Hard-Drive? . . . you have a Hard-Drive?
Save BIOS file.ROM into a simple folder in root and then restart computer, go into BIOS and start EZ-Flash and navigate to your folder and select file, very easy, very safe! :)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/170/tentp0le.gif
Yea, I realized - and it worked well :) but ty
Well my system is up and running, however there's 1 thing that's very enoying.
My CPU fan is spinning at 2450rpm (which is max - using Zalman 9700), and even though I've set the bios to "Silent" for the CPU it keeps spinning on max value.
I did some search on the inet, but didn't find anything in particular - only people having other kind of problems. I installed the AiSuite as well, and the "calibration" doesn't seem to work - because it a constant number for all %-values.
Is this a known problem? or something that's easy to fix?
The pin on the CPU fan is 3-pin, and not 4 btw.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/y...le/CPU-fan.jpg - AiSuite picture :confused:
You have to have a 4-pin pwm fan connected to the 'CPU_Fan' plug on the motherboard to regulate the fan. You might try a 'Fanmate' and connect to your power supply or get use to the hurricane!Quote:
Originally Posted by tentp0le
Ahh k, can I use a "Zalman Fan Mate 2, potentiometer 5V-11V" ? to adjust its speed?
Or anyone have any recommendation for a new CPU fan with 4-pin. :)
Just want to offer some encouragement for people running 8 GB on this board.
It can be done, albeit sometimes a PITA.
This is with my new OCZ Platinums.
http://ense7en.com/pics/OCZ2P1150LV4...%20everest.JPG
http://ense7en.com/pics/OCZ2P1150LV4...0%20300%25.JPG
Current settings:
Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 456
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1140
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO (set very loose initially - 55+)
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd & 3rd Information:
all AUTO
But a note, i've had success getting higher speeds with 8 GB by loosening these to one looser (set manually).
Default AUTO is too tight for some 4x2 GB configurations, especially my previous Mushkin 8 GB @ higher speeds.
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter (this is hugely important for 8 GB...i generally have to do Light or Lighter)
Peformance Level: 8
CPU Voltage: 1.24375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.645
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.645
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.64
SBridge Voltage: 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Notice how low i've kept the motherboard voltages?
You really do not need a ton of vFSB or vNB on this board.
It's very much a finesse mobo though.
Brute forcing by using higher voltages pretty much never works...believe me, i've tried.
If you spend time with it, get your vFSB & vNB & GTL perfect (and yes, they have to be perfect or you will get nowhere), it's not bad.
I actually sold my UD3P because i found for 8 GB, my P5Q-D was a more solid board, a lot less flakey.
For 2x2 GB, no question, UD3P is miles better.
But at least for me, my P5Q-D i much preferred for 8 GB.
You are only at 450MHZ FSB, thats why your volts are so low. ;)
EXCELLENT vcore though for 4.1Ghz!!!
-n7- :clap: :clap:
Now that is impressive.
Quite pleased with my EO q9550 and p5q dlx combo so far, currently have it small fft stable at 3.8ghz, (8.5x450) vcore in bios of 1.21875, 1.200 idle. 1.216 prime load (1.2vid chip) 1.54 PLL, 1.26 NB and VTT, if i can eek 4ghz out of it ill be more than happy.
Hi All,
Been a while since I tried pushing my Q9450 + P5Q-Deluxe. I'm already at 1.4Vcore and at a prime-unstable (but life-stable) 3600 (450 FSB) running 8GB of ram at 1080 all on the 120* bios (maybe the 1406). Just threw a whole bunch of numbers...
Should I bother trying to push it even further by getting the latest BIOS revision and going through the whole process again? I have a pretty bad chip so I'm prepared to just consider myself lucky and live with this. Are any of the more recent BIOS gamechangers?
Thanks for your help.
That depends on which bios you have. From my experience only 1406 and 2201 were stable. All the ones in between didn't work well for my Q9450. You should not need 1.4 with Line load Calibration enabled to hit 3.6.
What GTL's do you have set?
Perhaps try my settings a few posts earlier. Those worked with 1406 and 2201 bios.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tentp0le
i just got the OCZ Vendetta 2 it is awsome and quiet(sets ontop of my new Q9550) spinning right now at only 945rpm's.
if you have a microcenter near you, you can get one for $29 with a $10 mail in rebate.
We've got pretty similar settings going on. I just flashed my bios to 2201 and re-entered the exact same settings/voltages that I had on my previous bios (which was 1402 btw).Quote:
Originally Posted by efok
FSB: 445
FSB Strap: 333
DRAM: 1069
5-5-5-15
CPU V: 1.412
GTL 0/1: .635
GTL 2/3: .680
PLL: 1.54
FSB Term: 1.24
DRAM: 2.04
NB: 1.4
GTL: .650
SB: 1.2
PCIE SATA: 1.5
Is it safe to put the PLL at 1.6 and the FSB Term at 1.4? By the time I got my 'stable' overclock to 3.60 there were still discussions as to what PLL and FSB term voltages were safe. I'm nowhere near prime stable at 3.6 (fails in about 10 seconds) but I've been running no prob for 1 year now (games, 24/7 downloads, etc) albeit on an almost purely linux machine.
Any suggestions where I can start poking and prodding again to get at least a stable 3.6 or maybe higher?
I really doubt you need 1.4vNB for 450 FSB.
Stop using 5:6 for now; use 1:1 & drop the multi one or two lower while you test for board stability.
You need to dial in your GTLs, & find a mix of vFSB + GTLs & NB + GTL that works, or you'll never pass Large FFTs or LinX/IBT @ max RAM stress.
If you get those figured out, you'll likely be able to get farther, & with less voltage, or at least no higher NB voltage than presently.
I'm using 0704 BIOS still on my board. It's been running great for the last year or so. Should I bother upgrading the BIOS?
NOPE, if it runs don't bother to update, unless you want to experiment.
Golden rule nr 1 : If it ain't broken don't fix it !
Golden rule nr 2 : Pumping more volts isn't always better on this mobo !
Ah, OK. I'll leave it alone, then. I think I've only crashed maybe twice in the last year from what might have been mobo-related, though it's hard to say. I do run Prime95 from time to time and it goes for hours before I bother to shut it off (e.g. seems stable). I tend to follow Golden Rule No. 1 as well. I just wasn't sure if there was some nefarious bug lurking around that had been solved :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Hello,
May I ask you if the last version of ExpressGate for P5Q Deluxe is compliant with the following resolution:
1680*1050
Because on my ExpressGate (with 1406 bios) this resolution is not available.
Thank you very much in advance
How do i do this, and how will i know when i have the correct settings for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by -n7-
Anything above 3.2Ghz on my Q6600 is requiring huge Vcore increases from 1.38 to 1.42 for 3.3Ghz and to 1.48v for 3.4Ghz.
It seems if i dont raise Vcore Prime95 fails Large FFT very quickly.
Ram is set to 1000Mhz stock and 266Mhz strap, currently 400mhz FSB at 8X multi.
Trying to aim higher is not working out, and i really think the GTL's are behind my problems.
Vcore currently: 1.387
vFSBt: 1.2
PLL: 1.5
NB:1.22
GTL's: Auto
Hi
i recently got myself the Q9550 with P5Q Dl, works pretty stable right now at 3,4 (8,5x400) I need 1.256 Vcore.
My load temp is like 63 and is within my personal max of 65.
I've mounted my Mugen propably as far as i know with a drop of artic silver.
But i have no headroom to try a bit more. I need better ram for that anyway
but i'm not sure if this a "normal load temp" ? or should i mount it again..?
Test the CPU first with SMALL FFT and see if it passes, if that is stable move on to blend or large...Quote:
Originally Posted by jasjeet
I draw a small line between the cores, could be that drop is not enough, it's fine for dual core cpu's but might be insufficient for quadcoresQuote:
Originally Posted by Redrock32
Check here : Applying Arctic silver on quadcores
Resolution choices are crap on all the BIOS versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by scharnhorst
My monitor's native rez is 2560x1600...ExpressGate doesn't look so hot, haha.
You need to isolate things when OCing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jasjeet
As in, don't try to OC everything at once, or you'll not know what's unstable.
Always run RAM at lower speeds while working on CPU.
So try it underclocked, or 1:1, whatever is lowest. Loosen tRD (PL) to less than normal even if you want to be safe.
For testing max CPU in your case, use the highest multi, 9x.
You don't need to worry about GTLs on the P5Qs till 425-450 range, & you can do 9x400 for 3.6 GHz without even nearing there, which means the only real limit is your CPU; it won't be your board.
In your case, if you are using 9x already, it's likely your CPU is nearing its max.
If you want to test for max FSB on the motherboard, you need to run lowest RAM speed + lower than normal multi, so the only thing to worry about is mobo.
That's how to you can fine tune GTLs.
I find certain values will work for certain ranges.
Like for example in my case it's around 0.80 for both FSB & NB.
I run 1.26 vFSB + GTLS @ 0.645 = 0.8127
NB is 1.26 + GTL @ 0.64 = 0.8064 or 1.28 + 0.64 = 0.8192.
Even when i was doing much higher FSB & NB voltage i was getting similar values of ~ 0.80 that were stable.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=202292
That's worth reading.
What ones works for you unfortunately may not for me.
I've personally not had success with other people's settings...could be because i have 8 GB, i don't know.
I've had to find my own settings, as for my P5Q-D & even for the short time i had my UD3P, no one else's GTL settings were working for me.
Thank you very much :)Quote:
Originally Posted by -n7-
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3920208] I draw a small line between the cores, could be that drop is not enough, it's fine for dual core cpu's but might be insufficient for quadcores
This article makes me want to try it again...
I've only put an amount in de middle and placed the heatsink.
Maybe the procedure as described could save some degrees..
when i have some updated temps i will post them, first find some time to do it.
thx Leeghoofd
hopping in on the voltage talk, not sure if its luck of the draw or that I'm only running a dual core, but low voltages can be stable at 450. this is w/ 6GB mismatched :) for around 9 months now...
BIOS 1406
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 901
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.225
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.16
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhishma
I was able to get my Q9450 upto 465FSB and from what I can see the main differences you have are:
FSB Term is far lower than mine. I needed 1.4V
CPU voltage of 1.375 was enough for me with LLC enabled.
CPU GL's I needed around 0.675
and NB 0.645 was best for me.
The final thing is I have 4 x 2GB ram, so I couldn't get it stable over 1000 Mhz no matter what. I had to settle for a lower memory divider that puts me in the 930 range.
Perhaps you can try settings near my ballpark.
I got my new board last week (had major system fk up, lost board and GPUs, expensive) and it worked out of the box (and 2201 stable flash - thanks I read this board that it was okay to use) with the old settings for 3.6
Using a single Asus 4770 for now, Ive taken one noctua off the IFX14 cpu cooler and have 2 noctuas case exhaust, 2 case intake (low and and bays) in P182, and using silent profile in Qfan bios, ~900rpm
If I can't repair an 4870 then ill probably just get another 4770 for xfire as they run so cool and quiet, as I don't spend a lot of time gaming
for anyone interested, the single 4770 benched ~15K 3dmark6 and ~P8000 in vantage with 3.6 cpu and max overclock in catalyst
There is no way i can stabilize my setup.
Q9550 + p5q dlx.
I cant get stable at 410+ fsb.
Always I get error in prime95 (or orthos) at cpu #0 and #1 on BLEND test or LARGE.
Cpu can run small ffts a few hours ~3600mhz ~1.2v but no way to get stable at large ffts or blend.
Tried almost everything , same results.
Its the first time i cant understand if its cpu or motherboard problem.
It's neither, the problem is the guy behind the keyboard :p
Better post all ya settings here mate, 410FSb is absolutely a breeze for this motherboard, from 440 on you will need to start tweaking GTL's with a quad...
Fill in this template and we all will have a look : P5Q DLX series template
well....volts did not help!
I played a little with gtl's.
before:
GTL Ref 0/2 :0.63
GTL Ref 1/3 :0.63
NB GTL : 0.62.
After some reading here I found that I sould change these values to :
GTL Ref 0/2 :0.69
GTL Ref 1/3 :0.69
NB GTL : 0.68
Results are very good untill now, I tested 450fsb blend and it was ok.Should I let them there?
Now I am 420x8.5 @ blend ~40mins and going
CPU Voltage: 1.200
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.69
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.69
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.1
NB GTL Reference: 0.68
One quick question about GTL's
GTL Ref 0/2 means...cpu #0 and #2 ? and GTL Ref 1/3 means #1 , #3 core ?
UP NB to at least 1.2. Your FSB term is too low too, FSB term voltage is also related to the NB, try to up to 1.2 or even 1.26... and retweak again...I would leave the CPU GTL4S around 0.65 or even AUTO and tweak NB GTL
Hi guys been busy lately that's why i dont have time to play with my toy.. here's my attemp @ 500FSB... =)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...fsbonQ9550.jpg
Here's what i got so far. any suggestion on the voltages?
vCore: 1.475
FSB Tv: 1.46
PLLv: 1.52
Dram: 2.10
NBv: 1.40
Those are wacky volts mate are they just for this screenshot or do you intend to run them dialy ? If you can live with them no problem but I would try to go a bit lower on the FSB Term volt and if possible cool the NB actively plz...Quote:
Originally Posted by Padol_Inc
If ya had better rams that could to 1200Mhz it would require less volts for sure to stabilise the rig....
its only for screenshot.. what would voltages you suggest? its hard to find a ddr2 capable of running 1200 here in my place.. my nb are actively cooled so no problem there.. thanks bro..Quote:
Those are wacky volts mate are they just for this screenshot or do you intend to run them dialy ?
Leeghoofd: Quick question for ya, my current setup is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Cpu Vtt = 1.3375
CPU GTL = Auto
FSB = 533
Mem VT = 2.02
CPU FSB Vtt = 1.4
NB Vtt = 1.36
My question is if you have run 8 gig ram at that high a fsb and what kind of results did you have?? Did you need to push the NB much higher and how did that affect the CPU Fsb Vtt?? Any help would be appreciated, I am currently running @ 333 strap and won't be going any higher I don't think, just want to run more Ram. Maybe push the FSB to 550 if I get bored:rofl:
I never ran 8GB long term mate, I only did some tests at start for n7 on request and that was only at 400FSB or such... better pm him to get more info...
But thing I have with giving advice in templates : use it as a starting point, it could work from the start but also could be unstable... I see many users pump so many volts into the NB. I dunno why coz I never had to run above 1.36, not even for 600FSB action with the E8500. Quads and loads of ram usually need more Nb voltage and a bit more FSB term then dual cores... mostly it will be up to proper GTL tuning to get it rockstable (keep it around +/-0.81 level, seemed to work for most users)...
I haven't touched these boards since the 15xx serie biosses... no idea what has changed for the good or the bad...
Hi guys i have purchase a P5Q Deluxe and am using with no problems sinces 2 months now and i got a Q6700 @ 3.9 Ghz just wondering if it was possible to go any higher as i got some frends which are hitting 4.5... 450 X 10...
my settings are this:
390 X10
Cpu V 1.68
Cpu GTL auto (both of them)
Cpu PLL 1.64
FSB V 1.8
NB V 1.5
NB GTL auto
SB V 1.5
if anyone knows if you can go higher on this board ill be very thankfull
Q6700 ? high voltset you got there ,PLL max 1,55 on Deluxe
http://www.gratisimage.dk/thumb-20DE_4A8876BE.jpg
well if you remove the onboard pins you can achive a higher voltage frequency... could you tell me the volatges you have selected on your system as i can see that we have the some spec?? thanks mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
Çoveçy board.
Can run my Q9550 E0
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2089/over3y.jpg
any particular reason you are pumping so many volts ? I suppose you can go far lower on FSB term and NB voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
Only 1.256 for vcore? STable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
Amazing
Could you give us your bios adjustments please?
@marvin
can you share your bios settings? i run my Q9550 @ 1.4v its way to high.. tia.
of corse.
vcore 1.258
vdim 1.9
pll 1.54
fsb term 1.32
northbrige : 1.34v
GTL north :0.65
both vcore gtl : auto
BTW bro what mems are you using? DDR2 1066 or 1200? thanks..
using ddr2 1100
regards
anyone got higher than 4.0 Ghz on this board with the Q6700, if so could you write down you voltages on the bios? please :D
Ever thought that ya CPU is the limiting factor ? it is not because you pumps insane volts that the CPU will go higher...
Try first 9 X and stabilise 400FSB
400 X 9
Cpu V 1.5
Cpu GTL auto (both of them)
Cpu PLL 1.6
FSB V 1.3
NB V 1.3
NB GTL auto
SB V 1.5
You're volts are so out of line that it wil not help stability at all
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Thanks for your reply ....
am using a multiplier of 10 as i though i wouldnt need to increase the voltage on the cpu as it would increase temps but i though using 9 it would mean higher temps as i would have to increase the FSB to aichive a higher clock anyway just curious to see if this chip would higher than 4?? but ill get a new one like the Q9550?? anyway my current set up is:
390 X 10
Cpu V 1.68
Cpu Gtl auto
Cpu Pll 1.72
Fsb V 1.70
NB V 1.5
NB Gtl auto
SB V 1.4
it runs at 50c
65c at load but that cos am watercooling...
4GHZ whit Q6700 G0
http://67.90.82.13/forums/showthread...89437&page=209
Lower them FSB term volts to 1.3-1.4, NB to 1.3 plz, SB volts AUTO, no need to whack voltages like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
Also it's not because ya friends Q9700 do 4.5 ( pretty hard to believe anyway for 24/7) that yours can do 4.5... and that Vcore really is not a good sign that this is a good CPU either, but with the volts you gave it , who can blame the CPU
Lower first the multi to 9, stabilize 400FSB , rams at 1000Mhz ( very important on P45 to get off the 1:1 divider for stability) with the lowest Nb and FSB term volts possible, then hunt for 4ghz...
ok guys im close to the buying stage now. i have ruled out the ga-ep45-ud3p. i am going with a ASUS mobo. but which one???
P5Q or P5E MOBO???? which is better/ why?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...page=4&bop=And
before having the P5Q dlx i use to have the P5Q i have to say it a solid board pleanty of room for OC and i prefer the P45 NB, but if you are gonna Xfire then choose the X48 as it will run 2 ati better the only reason i would go fir the deluxe is cos of the 16 Phase cooling ....
hi Martin.v.rQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
what are your voltages on the BIOS i cant to seem to have it stable enough :( thanks dude
well im not a gamer(well not like most) so i seriously doubt i will ever gor xfire.and the P5Q Deluxe is gonna be the route i take... im hopeing to order it this weekend. if not this one next weekend for sure...Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
no another Question. is the P5Q Deluxe a easy board to learn as far as bios and ocing goes? or is a amature like myself gonna have problems?
:welcome: 2 OCing lol good choise dude with this board you can pretty much learn yourself without that fear of thinking did that stresed the board too much??:shrug: nah man this board if very well built the 16 phase cooling asures that the transistor are wel packet and cooled and you can get some crazy OC done with this board spaecially Core 2 quad chips liek mine...:D so good luck mateyQuote:
Originally Posted by cincyrob
this is my first build but ive had 4 different gigabyte boards and now switching to a Q9550 and this new mobo i am going for my second build once said and done. just getting the parts 1 ata time takes a little longer. i am excited about getting this board.
go at least with the P5Q-E or Dlx Cinycrob. The P5Q lacks some tweaks in the bios and has lesser memory support (unless you use one of KET's modded biosses) but you will still remain more limited. Take note that with a quad for high FSB action it might be better to go UD3P. My Dlx did 500FSB with my quad BUT you will need to have good rams to get off that 1;1 divider and at 500FSB only way to go is 1200Mhz for the rams !
thats some good info leeghoofd. i havent had it broke down like that. that does sway things again.... i guess i truely cant go wrong with either board huh??? what 1200mhz ram would you recomend??
not many choices for 4Gb mate, good bang for the buck are the OCZ blades 9600, high end and more expensive the Gskill 9600Pi rams