Prime 95 core1 failed after 6 hours. I am at the max voltage for all you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I guess I need to do something with my mem.
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Prime 95 core1 failed after 6 hours. I am at the max voltage for all you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I guess I need to do something with my mem.
well i have triedQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
the dfi x48 LT, rampage formula, ramapage extreme, maximus formula se,
in terms of bandwidth clocking of the rams the dfi x48 is much better.
what pissed me off with the dfi was their pcie compatibility with certain asus gc's and a few 3870x2/4870x2's... the asus 3870x2 rog doesnt even boot on that mobo. same goes for the foxconn p35 mars.
now for ddr2 rampage formula...
if u have tried the maximus 2 formula
and then move on to rampage extreme
u will find the rampage extreme is what the rampage formula should have been.
the exact nature of the bios clocking of the rampage extreme and maximus 2 formula is almost the same.
whats my beef...
rampage formula gtl controls are just not good enough.
hence the high vnb voltages it needs.
but i do agree on the stability of the RF board is much better than dfi x48 LT/UT and needs less work to to do so.
u will spend a lot of time on the dfi x48 lt to get the ram stable rather than finding higher clocks
and my arguement with those that claims the RF clocks better than the m2f..
its because their gtl settings are all wrong for m2f.
the RF u dont really need to worry about the gtl's as much as m2f.
for e8600 on m2f and RE
i can confirm with u many of times .. using the two test to show gtl stability
running IBT for 50 runs and also running orthos ( blend then custom then choose each run 1 min) priority 10.
core 0 +40 the rest auto. tested right up to 563fsb for both boards super stable at 4.5ghz.
well my issue with gaygay has always been when it comes to clocking 4 dimms..Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
this is what happened
gaygay n680dq6
one dimm burned at 2.3v and hence one ram contact point was burned..
samething happened to p35dq6
and another forummer with a p45dq6.
response from fae for the first two motherboards for rma..
in short.. "we dont support clocking of 4dimms above 2.0v "
so far only motherboard i have that has no issue with p45/ddr2 on clocking with 4 dimms is the m2f/biostar t-power i45/dfi DKp45.
in the past no dfi/asus mobo has ever actually burned the contact points of the ram.. aka if that happens u have to pay for the repair cost for the rams...
+ shipping charges and with current prices of rams. i can buy a another new kit for that
all tested with 4x1gb team xtreem pc2-6400 c3s
I guess I should have been more clear when I was speaking about the Rampage Formula. I meant the average FSB for quads is around 475, and it appears very difficult to stabilize quads over that, with most topping out around 495 FSB. This may be due to the poor GTL control which I have mentioned before, causing the need for high vNB, and reaching the limit of safe vNB level around the 495 FSB mark. At high FSB speeds they just seem to struggle with quads from what I have seen, even if you thrash the board in an attempt to keep up. Their BIOS is too sparse, and lacks the functionality it should have and needs. I'm not saying the board is no good at all, it's just not my cup of tea.
I would not purchase a UT or LT DFI, they are not mature enough hardware wise, and their clockgen limits their overclocking ability of both duals and quads. I don't feel DFI has too many options, if you know what you are doing with them, setting them up can be done rather quickly. I don't like the fact they have compatibility issues with a few graphics cards, that complicates things.
I still am very wary of Gigabyte, and although the UD3P/R and EP45-Extreme are doing well, I don't think I could put my gear onto them, I'd be too concerned the boards would flake out taking my gear with them.
The Rampage Extreme is probably the best X48 board available, massive FSB and ram clocks (DDR3 of course) and low tRD are par for the course. Whether or not they have used high binned X48 chipsets and clockgens I'm not sure, but they outperform any other X48 available, and their BIOS options are great.
I think the DFI DK-T2RSB Plus is probably the best DDR2 X48 board available now, it clocks both quads and duals better than the UT & LT's as it uses a revised clockgen, the same one used on the Rampage Extreme, and has a solid digital PWM circuit - more than 560 FSB stable has been done. It clocks ram very well, and is highly tweakable. It's also under $300, and even if the RF is slightly better and could be proven to be, there is no way it's $220 better, as it costs around $520 here. For another $100 I could have the Rampage Extreme, which actually is easily $100 better than the RF.
That's just my opinion, the rampage formula will appeal to some, just not me.
I have heard many people say this, but it's not true in my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
What good is gtl control if it doesn't translate into higher fsb overclocks? High VNB? Check out the screenie below.Quote:
now for ddr2 rampage formula...
if u have tried the maximus 2 formula
and then move on to rampage extreme
u will find the rampage extreme is what the rampage formula should have been.
the exact nature of the bios clocking of the rampage extreme and maximus 2 formula is almost the same.
whats my beef...
rampage formula gtl controls are just not good enough.
hence the high vnb voltages it needs.
That's a good thing in my books.Quote:
and my arguement with those that claims the RF clocks better than the m2f..
its because their gtl settings are all wrong for m2f.
the RF u dont really need to worry about the gtl's as much as m2f
I've gotten similar results on rampage formula.Quote:
for e8600 on m2f and RE
i can confirm with u many of times .. using the two test to show gtl stability
running IBT for 50 runs and also running orthos ( blend then custom then choose each run 1 min) priority 10.
core 0 +40 the rest auto. tested right up to 563fsb for both boards super stable at 4.5ghz.
This is still better than the competition, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Yes, the RE is the best, this debate is about DDR2 though.Quote:
The Rampage Extreme is probably the best X48 board available, massive FSB and ram clocks (DDR3 of course) and low tRD are par for the course. Whether or not they have used high binned X48 chipsets and clockgens I'm not sure, but they outperform any other X48 available, and their BIOS options are great.
Well, what can I say, if it's not better than the rampage formula then my point is made; I know where that 640 figure comes from, and I haven't seen a single quadcore overclock in that thread, let alone past 500 fsb so again, if it is to be considered a contender, then we must see some justification for that. That 640fsb was is reasonable, but it was done with a x6 multi. I could show you my own screenie of a 7.5 x 600, even went up to 610, on the rampage formula and I wasn't even trying hard, and was limited by ram. Trust me, I've been in some ram bandwidth combat with some dfi nuts, etc. and came out feeling good so I know all about the hype. The RF is a solid overclocker; it may not overclock quads nearly as good as some p45s, but the x48 chipset was designed with other strengths which the RF demonstrates very nicely; eg. high fsbs and tight PLs.Quote:
I think the DFI DK-T2RSB Plus is probably the best DDR2 X48 board available now, it clocks both quads and duals better than the UT & LT's as it uses a revised clockgen, the same one used on the Rampage Extreme, and has a solid digital PWM circuit - more than 560 FSB stable has been done. It clocks ram very well, and is highly tweakable. It's also under $300, and even if the RF is slightly better and could be proven to be, there is no way it's $220 better, as it costs around $520 here. For another $100 I could have the Rampage Extreme, which actually is easily $100 better than the RF.
That's just my opinion, the rampage formula will appeal to some, just not me.
Rampage Formula low volts prime action, everything set to the lowest.
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...752e6a4587.jpg
More of the same...
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...410580470e.jpg
G.Skill PC2-8500 2x2GB overclock on Rampage Formula...
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...1939dbabb2.jpg
7.5x600 FSB
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...5a7977a376.jpg
my 24/7 with my E8600 before I switched to 9550
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...f6a1e08aac.jpg
As you can see, I have gotten some pretty good results with rampage formula. :clap:
640 FSB is still 640 FSB regardless of multiplier, the CPU limits the CPU speed, if they had used 7x the cpu would have to be good for 4.48GHz. It, and other results as well, are still higher than anything I have seen the RF achieve. I have not seen an RF do 640 FSB, regardless of multi used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I didn't say the T2RSB Plus was not as good, I'm just not arguing this as vehemently as you are. From what I have seen, I think it's better than the RF, but I really don't mind what other people think is the best DDR2 X48 board, I just do my own thing based on my own opinion.
I said if the RF could be proven to be better FSB wise or quad overclocking wise than the T2RSB Plus, it would have to be proven to be $220 better or I still wouldn't consider buying it. I also said that if I was considering spending $520 on an X48 I consider decent but nothing special, I would pay the extra $100 and get the X48 that is unarguably outstanding (the RE). Essentially, I'm saying I would never buy the RF.
I'm not trying to argue with you here; I'm just trying to debate...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
The whole point of the debate was that the Rampage Formula overclocks quads better. That 640 fsb is for dualcore, right? So how is that even relevant to the debate? You're backsliding now; don't turn this into a price/performance argument. You said the rampage lacked many features which hampered overclocks; I tried to show certain results which proved that wasn't the case. With the right cpu and memory, I could show you some spectacular results too. Yes, I agree 640 is 640, but it is still 6x640; my 7.5x600 (610) are not unimpressive, the memory I used on that overclock are my Team Xtreems PC2-6400 which throw up a million errors in memtest and need a ton of voltage to reach DDR2 1200 speeds. also, looking at all those voltages in the screenie you can tell I had a lot of headroom. Any experienced overclocker can tell that. I'm not a skeptic, but I choose to believe in numbers. There are too many myths on these forums :shakes:
Edit: That 640 FSB overclock looks good, but when you think about the fact that Oscar Wu himself was on im with the overclocker, it makes for a little bit of pause on my part. It would seem to me that the board was shipped directly from Taiwan, who knows, could be even the processor too. Oh, the bios was supposed to be special, right? All these things makes me a little skeptical. I just haven't seen these results you speak of. I'm by no means advicing you on your next board pick :), I'm just holding you to your bold statements which one would think was coming from someone who had extensive experience with these boards. I'm out.
PS: By the way, I picked up my rampage formula on newegg for $200. ;)
Guys,
I bought one E0 E8400 (vid=1.25v). It run 450*9 stable @1.27Vcore,1.53CPU PLL,1.26NB,1.20VTT. I hope to run 500*8 or 500*9 but failed. What volt should I adjust in BIOS?
I think you have misinterpreted what I have said. I simply initially made the comment that the RF is not the board for me, and that it is not the board I would choose if I was to purchase an X48. I didn't even want to state which board I would choose, as it is my opinion and I couldn't care less what other people purchase, nor do I want to influence what anyone else would purchase.
I dont have personal experience with either the RF or the T2RSB Plus, I have seen results from both, I like the T2RSB Plus better, simple. This was never an specific debate for the best DDR2 X48, it was initially not even a debate at all until you stepped in. Grnfinger just said he preferred the RF to the M2F. I said it was OK, but I preferred something else. I'm very surprised this escalated in to some apparent 'best DDR2 X48' board debate. This is not the place for such a debate, nor do I wish to take place in one. In fact I have no idea why you have come into the M2F thread and tried to initiate a debate about the best DDR2 X48 board. What it really is, is you saying the RF is the best X48 DDR2 board, and trying to convince others to agree with you.
I am not backsliding by bringing price vs performance into the equation, it was always in the equation from where I stand. Also I never said the RF lacks BIOS options that hampered overclocks at all, I just said it has sparse options and I felt it needed more. I'd appreciate it if you didn't misquote me. I even stated I did not think the RF was bad, just that it didn't appeal to me at all. I'm not contributing to myths, I've read through the RF thread here and on other forums, and I wasn't impressed, especially when you factor in their retail price. I've said nothing that was not true, nor have I hyped anything up, nor have I made any 'bold statements'.
I've simply stated my preference of X48 board, and said what I don't like about the RF. If you disagree, that's fine with me. I am not trying to convince anyone of my DDR2 X48 board preference. I don't know why you feel a need to do this - you were in this thread trying to show how great you thought the RF was before I even made my second post on the issue - you made the comment:
Then I said what I disliked about it, and stated what board I liked better. If you think the RF is the best DDR X48 board, go for it, that's fantastic and I'm glad you're happy. I'm not debating this with you. I feel no need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
bro u do know right for 500 fsb on the RE at 1600 CL7 TRD 8 and m2F 1200mhz CL7 tRD 8 vNB is 1.25/1.21??? for 4x1gbQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
with vtt at 1.12 for e8600
i have used all the boards..
if RF had the same gtl control as RE... it would have been mind blowing.
also those who use m2f and went over to RE.. would understand gtl better
instead of blaming clock skews for everything.
also a lot of ppl clocking the quads for m2f are setting wrong gtl values and with the RF is less headache.
so i guess ure arguement wins here on RF clocking quads better
but i do admit that i only had the rampage formula upon launch with the initial bios as comparison to MF SE. So my argument was based on that
the DFI x48 was much better at that time for 1200mhz clocks at tRD 7.
for 4x1gb. Its here somewhere in XS dfi thread.. but i was just pissed off with the amount of time it took to get 500fsb stable for 4dimms and also the lack of support on GC's. It was something to do with DFI pcie compaitibility with pcie 2.0 GC's for ATi especially.
also i am just saying the boards that i have used.
also another point in ure side was the rampage formula that i had was a ES .
also my opinion is always based on the boards that i have clocked and never based on screen shots on threads
btw nice clocks
That is a good text from anandtech -> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3471 about news on the market.
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Originally Posted by Grnfinger
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Originally Posted by CryptiK
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Originally Posted by CryptiK
Dude, you're the one trying to make a big deal out of nothing; I merely wanted you to stand by your comments. Obviously, it is there for all to see; you downplayed the capabilities of the board; here let me quote you:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
1. "In terms of max screen that's good, but not overly impressive."
2. "From what I can see there are more people with good quads capable of 500 FSB with the rampage formula, most people with the MIIF have duals, or C0/C1 quads that dont clock. If we had more guys with 9650's and E0 9550's I think we'd be seeing a lot more people doing 480 FSB+."
To sum YOU up, the overclock (Grnfinger pointed to) on RF is not impressive, and the reason why there appears to be better quad overclocks on the RF in general compared to the MIIF is because people with RF have better quads. :rofl:
After saying that, you go on to say why you won't consider the RF.
Dude are you serious? Ok, let's assume that was the case; did you see the stepping of the chip in that overclock?
It's simple, if you can't defend utterances when you're called upon to defend them, then don't utter anything; especially don't make sweeping statements. You thrashed the RF even though you confess you don't have much experience with it, and then try to make the case for another board which you have no experience with? :clap:
I specifically became interested in the conversation between you and Grnfinger because I wanted to know what your comments were based on. Thanks for letting me know I'm debating somebody who doesn't even have much experience with any of the hardware he's commenting on. I'm not interested in getting into an argument with you, but it seems the best way for you to get out of the hole you have dug yourself into is to make it appear as if I'm here trying to pick an argument with you. I have a little advice for you, don't thrash a board you can't beat.
Myth busted!
You can join Jamie and Adam now on the Mythbusters show Zucker2K ( I hope you are good looking :p )
I'm not entering the debate here : but P45 seems to have an inferior bandwith then the enthousiast range Intel boards (clock for clock) but allows many to OC far easier and higher (remember 975 and 965), thus making up for the slight loss in bandwith. Tweaking X38/48 is for many users a no go...(coming from P35 it gave me some headaches at start) To me P45 is far easier... but both platforms have matured well and are awesome... I think MFII suffers lack of bios updates due to the release of I7 boards, as Asus Bios engineers seem to be focused more on that platform for now...
Shake hands and kiss each other's girlfriends...(or boyfriends lol)
Cas 7? Anyway, I understand what you're saying, I also appreciate the fact that your not holding on rigidly to your position. Thanks. Oh, 500 FSB PL7 is easy on Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I do remember having a lot of fun doing comparos with Grnfinger on the Maximus Formula; below are some of my runs with Team Xtreem DDR2 800 ram. They're not my highest ram overclocks; this is just to show some numbers here:
:rofl: :up: You speak true words; I've been eyeing the Gigabyte UD3P for sometime but I'm afraid I'm not going to get the stability I'm enjoying on RF, even though I'd probably overclock my quad higher on that board; oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Wow you seriously have an attitude problem, think you're opinion is the be all and end all. Grow up please, you're making a massive fool of yourself, and ruining the thread. You are coming across like a diehard Asus RF fanboy, forcibly attempting to get people who differ with your opinion to justify their own opinions, or bow down to your "RF is the best" comments.
What I initially said were minor points, and said specifically in relation to the capabilities of the RF vs the M2F. It should have been left as that, as this is the M2F thread, not the "Zucker2K loves the RF and you must all agree with him" thread. If you want to debate the merits of various X48 platforms, make a thread and do it in the appropriate place, don't come into some unrelated board's thread and start arguing, or 'debating' as you euphemistically put it, with M2F owners about how great you think your board is, or how fantastic the 506 FSB max screen you achieved on it was. Aren't there enough people in the RF thread you can try and impress?
It's plainly obvious you got offended at the fact I commented your overclock Grnfinger linked to was not overly impressive, deal with it, it isn't that impressive. Also not a lot of C0/C1 9550's will go that high on FSB, and also there is one or two guys in the M2F thread with a 9550. There is another guy with a Q6600, one guy with a 9650 and one guy with a 9770 - none of these people have tested and posted results of max FSB testing or max FSB SS's. Why don't you educate yourself before attempting to undermine what I said about people with quads and the M2F - not many users have quads capable of 500 FSB, and those that own those quads have not done specific max FSB testing on this board and posted their results.
In addition, I did not 'thrash' the RF, I could certainly be a lot more critical if I felt the need to be, but I was restrained and only made necessary comments to support my opinion, as I don't own it, and didn't want to be overly critical. I used descriptions like "it appears to" and "it seems to" to demonstrate that what I was stating were observations, not direct findings of my own. I didn't go on some unwarranted and unwanted tirade about a board, like you have. I don't really like the RF, I stated briefly why, and when asked I stated the board I prefer to the RF.
Based on your statements, you cannot form an opinion of a board at all until you have owned and overclocked it. What made you choose the RF then? Did you own it before you bought one? Obviously not, you looked at the available results from it and other boards, and made an educated decision to buy it and try it. So essentially you are criticizing me for doing exactly what you did, only I didn't come to the same conclusion you did. You are apparently blind to your hypocrisy.
I shouldn't have to 'defend my utterances', my utterances being my opinion, to you or anyone else, I could have easily if I felt the need to, posted links etc, but your arrogance and attitude make you an unsavory person with which to debate. I simply couldn't be bothered debating with someone like you. From what I have seen, I don't really like the RF - so what? From what I have seen I prefer the T2RSB Plus - so what? I initially found your RF fanboyism and arrogance amusing, but now I find it ridiculous.
Please take your attitude and and 'DDR2 X48 debate' to an appropriate place, which is certainly not in this thread.
I see why you've been able to accumulate over a thousand posts in 3 months; posting speculation huh? You haven't proved anything and your best defence is to resort to hostility. Let me tell you what is immature, because that is what you are:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
1. Speculation; obviously this is your strong-point otherwise this debate won't even be necessary. I moved from X38 to X48 seamlessly; same bios, everything, so no, I didn't have to "form an opinion" or make an "educated decision." See? Speculator? :down: I went with Intel X** because of the superiority of the chipset.
2. Making Sweeping statements; I can't even elaborate on this one, it's all over your posts.
3. Clueless; you don't even know what you're saying anymore. This is not about you liking the rampage formula; boy, this is about you saying something you really don't know ANYTHING about. Wow! Do I have to point that out to you? Jeez, it feels like I'm having a debate with myself. You said something and I called you on it, capisce?
4. Indefensible statements; obviously that is why we're still having this debate
5. Spinning Myths/Lies; now this is dangerous, you want to give the air of somebody who knows what their talking about, but all you do is perpetrate myths. You've been exposed, boy.
So you tell me who needs growing-up? Dude can't even overclock his dualie and he's trying to pick a fight. Fact is the board you thrash has more potential than your fake skills could ever squeeze from it. Go learn how to overclock and then we can have a REAL DEBATE.
Sorry folks, but this fake wannabe overclocker had to be put in his place. Contrary to what some might think, I didn't take anything he said about my overclock personal. If you doubt me read my initial post. It was his reply to that post that started all this. I guess you can tell a person is cornered when they come out swinging. Man, you're hilarious. Remember, it's not personal I honestly thought you had a clue about what you were talking about. My apologies. I'm out.
PS: Hit me on the pm if you have anything else to say to me. :welcome:
So 500+ is "easy" on Rampage?
I just wonder, my max is 485 with Q6600. Had been awsome with 500+, i think 490-495 is possible...but need lots of tweaking on my M2F.
Boy? Capisce? I said you were arrogant and had a bad attitude, and you just proved me right :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
1) You judged the RF and it's capabilities through the use of a completely different board? I was referring to your specific choice of the RF, you have simply dodged the question.
2) I made statements of opinion based on what I had read about both the boards in question. Call this what you like it doesn't change reality. I was not trying to change anyone's opinion. Anyone can read up on a potential board and see if it seems suitable for them or not.
3) I never said I had personal experience with either board, just that I had an opinion based on the results I had seen with both boards.
4) I have explained and 'defended' my statements. The thing is you differ in opinion and are incredibly arrogant, and that in fact is why this 'debate' is still going. If you think the baord is great, that's fine, I simply said what my opinion was based on what I'd read, and I stated I did not want to argue and did not want to influence anyone's opinion of the board.
5) Spinning myths? That's a ridiculous accusation, and blatantly incorrect. I did nothing of the sort. Anyone can read through the RF thread and see what I said about the average limits of the board are correct. They can also look at the BIOS features it has, and notice that quite a few potentially useful options are not there. All you have done is expose your arrogance and showcase your shocking attitude.
It's quite amusing you accuse me of 'coming out swinging'. You in fact have been the aggressive one throughout this whole 'debate', which is plainly clear for anyone to see. You call me a 'fake wannabe overclocker' and 'boy', capitalize words (in effect yelling) and use psuedo tough guy words like 'capisce'. Who's the aggressive one? You are hilarious.
Like I'd bother to PM you, I have wasted enough time on you already.
zuck
just forget him...
he doesnt get that most ppl when they quote things in XS is from experience with the boards.this reminds of lowyat forum.ppl giving statements with boards that they themselves never tried.
and if they did. its right of others to question them.u cant fault that...right crypt??
and u cant fault anyone on their opinions either but its also good to point out to ppl thats its a opinion based on screenies rather than first hand experience which he already did.
y he asked u that cause afaik most opinions in XS is based on first hand experience. also wondering now did u even try the RE kekeke
had to actually buy quite a number of different rams chips..
so far i find d9jnl is the worst.. and samsung hc0's and d9gtrs are pretty good..will be getting some gts later.
anyways typo 1200mhz Cl5 tRD 7.. not CL7..kekeke..
anyways i am Switzerland
but one thing i love about all the ddr2 asus boards... THEY LOVE Team xtreem rams..d9gmh/d9gkx on 4 dimm clocking
oh yeah the m2f has a issue with 4.5ghz clocking.. its the limit..
after that to get it super stable.. the skews options on the rams are insufficient.. tested and proven with RE
and the reason y i think the current situation is such
a lot of forumers here before we claim certain boards capabilities and recommendation
we have tried it the boards to support the statements we have made. this makes some sort of accountability on what we say and recommend.
its what seperates XS from a lot of chit chat overclocking forums out there. The amount everybody learns from contributions etc is not from opinions but rather than personal experience.
u wont find me now claiming d9gts works wonders with RE until i have personally tested it myselfs of a few rams.
but m2f is still one of the best boards for p45. my reasoning is it doesnt do any faky fsb gain with ram performance compromise
that the dk's and t-power does. also it handles crossfire configuration better.
i had a hard time getting the t-power and dk stable with crossfire while the m2f with single card and crossfire config.. voltages remain the same .. no extra stress on the nb
Hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
I've tried these settings, but my mobo always hangs at "DET DRAM":confused::confused:
Kinda noob here....:D
theres no need for cpu/nb clocks skews..Quote:
Originally Posted by karamell
ok when do use cpu/nb skews.... i cannot explain it until u try it ureself.. but it has to do with vtt voltage and gtl.
but for 500 fsb.. just leave it at auto.
assuming ure rams can handle 1000mhz Cl5 tRD 10 at around 2.1-2.2vdimm and strap 333 strength moderate
also assuming that uve found the exact vcore set for 4ghz.. ( usually i try this with higher multi and overvolt fsb/vnb/dram)
static read etc all enabled
ok when to change clock skews..
its to stabilize the fsb/vtt voltage.
so for 500fsb .. theres no need
also try this
+40 on cpu 0
leave the rest on auto...
up ure vtt voltage until u can enter windows
with nb voltage 1.21-1.25v
pll/sb 1.5 stock
leave the sb 1.05 stock... i was running raid 0 with two veloci..and 3 other hdd's...
after trying so many rams .. i finally getting what tony meant about ram chipsets and strength or something like that.. it becomes more apparent with ddr3... so hence the vnb voltages is depending on ure rams i guess.
Just put the rated voltage your rams have.Quote:
Originally Posted by karamell
Mine are rated 1.8-1.9v 1100mhz (PSC) so i use 1.9v.
Yours might be 2.0 - 2.2v because you have some kind of D9's.
:up:
WOW
alot goes on here in a short time.
Didnt mean to start a fight guys, was merley sharing some results. :sofa:
Try PL11, it should eliminate your Det Dram issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by karamell
oops
grnfinger just reminded me
sorry 1000mhz Cl5 - PL 11 Cl4 is PL10 1200mhz Cl5 - PL8 for this mobo..at 500fsb
forgot about that.
I have used the RF, the RE (very briefly) and the T2RSB Plus. I have helped my mates set up their systems using the boards, but have not had what I would call 'overclocking experience' using them, as the guys I helped are pure gamers, and only wanted mild overclocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I thought it was pretty obvious from how I phrased what I was saying regarding the RF & T2RSB Plus was mostly based on what I had read, not what I had personally experienced. I would have said it totally differently if I was basing my opinion of the board off personal experience, and most likely provided examples of my max clocks etc. I was using phrases like "seems to" "appears to" and "may be due to" describing the apparent limitations I have read about. I would have been much more definitive if I had personally experienced it.
I have a problem with the fact Zucker2K was refusing to accept my personal opinion as valid as I had not personally had much experience with pushing the boards we were discussing to the limit. I have an opinion based on what I have read, and the brief personal experience I have had with the boards. He has based opinions on results he has seen himself, then criticizes me for doing exactly the same thing. His reaction was over the top, and he was hell bent on proving that the RF was the best DDR2 X48 board, in the M2F thread no less.
He was simply aggressive and arrogant. He was rude, and made false accusations. I'm not going to sit back and take that. Perhaps he was drunk or something, but that's no excuse for that kind of behaviour.
EDIT - for anyone reading this - search his user name and look at his posts. He has got to be one of the most aggressive, argumentative, hypocritical users on this site.
I have planned to let this board go on air for a while now but need to know if TRUE fit vertical (push/pull) or not? Actually TRU-black!!
If not, what other great heatsink fit?
Thanks in advance!
Those setting below are 2h Small FTP P95 stable but mostl core 0 and core 3 will fail blend test or linpack affter 2minutes.
Ram is memtest86 2.1 stable for about 6 passes.
If RAM and GTL set to auto in BIOS same thing with Blend test as above.
This template was found here not real adjusting done yet. Probably such fast blend failing and few hours small ftt stable is indication of something obvious - unfortunately not for me :)?
Also when we are talking about safe vcore do we mean reading from CpuZ or setting in bios?
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
PCIE Frequency : 100
CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSBT : 1.259
DRAM Voltage : 2.012
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35175
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10
CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto
Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Some screenie is coming.
http://images40.fotosik.pl/38/2b1ab9ed7420d03f.jpg
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Vega
True black with two fans work both directions with no problem.
Most ppl are referring to cpuz or everest not whats set in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by seban
I think your stability problem can be corrected with your glts...
If you get off of 1:1 ram your bandwidth will improve, those Corsairs should do 1140MHz easy
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/1140.png
Gentlemen,
This thread is going waaaaay off base. All of you have your strengths and opinions and we should appreciate and acknowledge both. We are supposed to be friends helping friends, not get into pissing matches. I have learned a lot from each of you and I DO appreciate your knowledge and the fact that each of you take the time to help others.
So please let's get back on topic and put our anger towards the Asus Bios engineers that have apparently left us hanging with a three hundred US dollar board and a five dollar bios. :)
Well said :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Any suggested setting to start from for 11xxmhz for Dominator?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5Quote:
Originally Posted by seban
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
You might have to up vNB
Thanks will test them nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hey, thanks for that post Grnfinger. I myself will be getting a 2x2 1066 Dominator kit soon. But I'll be running my Q9650 at 430x9 for 24/7. I hope I could still run it without problems with using my 400x9 settings.Quote:
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Just a quick question.
So I experienced the infamous bug of vNb>vtt+X.
And the question if I undesrstand correctly from manual I can reset CMOS in 3 ways.
With all cables unpluged, with power cable pluged and electricty runnig throu it and finnally with PC running :O ??
Am I correct or did I mixed it up. And which way is the best/safest or there is no difference?
Once the bios loads, you could actually remove the bios chip if you wanted to, if it wasnt solderd in.Quote:
Originally Posted by seban
I preffer to power down and clear cmos, there is no need to unplug the psu from the wall.
just turn of your pc and turn of the power on your psu...and then push the clearcmos-button;)
Edit: Dr.Greenthumb was before me:D
well best reset is power off ure computer with ure casing/mobo off buttonQuote:
Originally Posted by seban
shutdown ure psu
and press star/on button for a quick release of all the current left
and then start ure psu and press on...
started with all the p45 and RE.
but geee shorten a lot of headaches with the RE from what i learned from m2f..
so cpu voltages is out of the equation..
yeah would love a new bios for m2f
aka this is better than the clear cmos..
heck havent had to a clear cmos for a long time kekeke..
this will force the bios to default value while keeping ure previous clocks setting intact.
also its written in the manual
as this is the way to do it..
suppose to be some chipset limitation for overclocking failure recovery.
remembered reading that when was testing the p5qdeluxe and p5q3 test samples before the m2f came out
Someone mind posting up the best RAM settings in the BIOS for maximum RAM stability? Tweaks on auto or disabled? Twister auto or lighter? I've gotten to the point where all I want is a stable CPU overclock, the RAM bandwidth has been shelved if you will.
Thanks
333 fsb strap
500 fsb
8 multi
1000 mem
1.35-1.45 NB
1.2 VTT/FSB v
1.54 PLL v
Perf Level 8
Is this a good starting point for 4gz and 500fsb with my setup (in signature)? Any opinions/ideas?
Thanks
if your using the 1:1 divider (1000)mem youll need to use pl10
lol, I was going to ad that it wont boot below pl10. so your correct sir... thxQuote:
Originally Posted by radaja
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333mhz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
PCIE Frequency : 100
CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSB Term : 1.209
DRAM Voltage : 1.8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35175
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10
Load Line Calibration : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Everything else unchanged from defaults.
Fails to load bios and fails to boot. What am I doing wrong here?
i really hope i get my maximusII back from RMA by friday.and im praying that they send me a NEW one ,thats not warped in any way.very flat. i really hate flying blind when it comes to temperatures.
After 3 weeks of testing I gave up for 8x565 . This is for now I will wait for new BIOS.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...x445eu3.th.jpg
M8 I got two MF2 ATM in house and both are warped as hell. The new one which I bought because first one was warped is even more warped :/.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
As I discovered they are both straight, it is heat pipe in Power area that warp them.
I am sending today one back.
Try to change your Ram voltage to 1.9..Quote:
Originally Posted by SkOrPn
Also set a value for your cpu voltage.
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You have 2 more options
Try for 7.5*533 Rams 1066 1:1 PL10 ..you wil get ~9600K Read
Or 9*455 Rams 1140 (mine 1100 PI have done 11h dual prime at 570 with 2-2.05V)
Attachment 90398
yea seban,seame boat as you two boards both warped. on my first one it was warped where the i/o sheild was and i think it was the heat pipe assembly was the culprit too. thats why im hoping to get a straight and flat one for my third board. cause i know they exist.few people here on this forum have said theirs were as flat as a board.good luck on your replacement M8.
u know .. i found out the issue.. but not really solved it with clocking the re to get the gtl somewhat stable for 563 fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
this is what i had to do for RE
cpu skew 200
nb skew normal
cmd channel a del 75
clk channel A1/A2 Del 100
clt channel A1/A2 del 100
cmd channel b del 100
clk channel a1/a2 del 100
clt channel a1/a2 del 75
vtt - 1.29
cpu 0 gtl+40
dont have any more m2f to test and now concentrating on re and re2.
but try the above on wherever options u can
the cpu skew 200
and nb skew normal was the important part to get the vtt stable.
infact actually with it can even bench at vtt 1.12v
so far with ibt i am down to two different residuals at the moment..
still wondering why its always those two only. 3.***002, 1.9***007
will try to get another m2f for christmas..
Wow!! Ya ain't lucky m8, both warped ?? Mine was flat as a marble ;) washers 'n new thermal paste maked me lose 10° on the NB
At yur opinion, don't you feel there's a real problem with the assembling of this board ?? Is there a worst mobo in terms of production quality ? (joke...or note !!)
At least : WHERE IS MY BIOS ???!!!!! WHERE IS MY MF BIOS ???!!!!! WHERE IS MY MFOB BIOS ???!!!!!
Raaah!! Guess they would give up their X58 bioses a moment for our ??? (...just for ram increase, please... :( )
just speaking from my own experience yes.horrible craftmanship.but i have hope,that ill get one that is very well assembled.
Today I sent back my first Mobo - I paid 36e for shipping to UK.... from Ireland. This country is unbelievable and it take more then 5 days to show up like 500km away. I would faster walk with it.
When UK is sending it to me I pay around 12e for next day courier delivery. If I would like to send it via courier I would have to pay 66e and no guarantee it will get there by tomorrow.
:rofl: I can only laugh about it, because other wise I would have to cry my eyes out ;)
i hear you the first board i sent,i spent 39 $ for overnight shipping to speed up the proccess. the second 10 $ ground. then when i purchased it i was so exited i paid for overnight shipping which was 38$.so all in all ive spent about 357$ for this board and ive havent really got to use it properlly.its upsetting to say the least.
I prefer not to count how much I spent on it all together - I like to stay in good mood for rest of the day :)Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
-----------------
EDIT:
Because I am still not sure if I understand GTL correctly I took a different road for figuring out what is wrong with my 4ghz 2h small ftt stable but craping out after 2min of blend.
I started on same settings as for 4ghz but on 450 so 3.8 and GTLs on Auto and uppin by 5 and testing blend and linx so 450->455->460 and so on.
Now question is - is 5 passes of linpack ok for assuming it is stable enough to go further?
I would say no to that seban. I have done 5 passes and passed then failed 10. Also make sure it is on maximum stress. I think 20 passes should be good. It tests it enough times so that it will increase the chance of a number being different. The fewer times you test the lower chance you have of any numbers being different and it can give you a false positive.
Thanks for the reply George, I will give that a try. Im also going to try these settings as well.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...postcount=2112
Posted early on but I missed it....
YEah you r right. 5 linpack is too little as I just discovered. 450 which passed 5 linpacks now is giving me errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocks
4gb min 15passesQuote:
Originally Posted by seban
2gb min 50 pases
basically complete atleast an hour
50 passes of linpak is unnecessary , the only thing you will accomplish is killing your hardware.
even though my temps are good im still nervous running linpack more than ten passes,the most ive run orthos was three hrs and then i stopped it.i dont know how people are able to run it overnight.while mine is running,im always keeping a close eye on it.maybe i just dont have guts to push it to hard.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Personally i use linpack for a quick CPU stability only,Because with linpack rams are not used @100% especially if u use 4GB or a non 64bit OS.
4-6h 2ple prime blend is more accurate than >all.
My 2 cent.
I too agree on that. Running 50 passes is a total wasted of power...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
EDIT - not important any more.
I do two hours Prime95 blend and if it passes I run WCG "Boinc" overnight to finish testing.
I know about and also I experienced it myself that vNB-Vtt>1.xx V depending on FSB.
But did any of you noticed what is happening to me right now. So the higher I go with FSB the bigger and almost maximum difference must be between vNB and Vtt. Otherwise my Vist will tear when moving windows around and fore example in core temp FSB field will flicker.
So windows tearing is happening. To prevent it I have to pump vNB almost to its maximum allowed by current Vtt.
It is early observation as I am running v high voltage ATM I will tweak them down once I achieve stability - maybe lowering voltages will have influence on this strange behaviour.
Anybody with same experience?
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EDIT - day after ;): so quiet here today nobody is writing anything, I start to feel lonely with my problems :D
Hi
1 Question:
Why I Don't Get Over 490 FSB With My Q9550
Any Voltage Any Disable/Enabled I Can't Get 500*6 For Example
Any 1 Could Get Me Current Setting For Find Max FSB On This Board?
Sorry For My Broken ENG
hmm I was playing recently with GTL witch made me stable 10pases of Linpack and around 1h of Blend on 3.97ghz and I stopped because it was late but it looked like 4ghz is just there after another 5mins of tweaking.
Yesterday with same same settings I was not stable at 3.97 :O hmm crashing after 2-3mins of blend :confused:.
Anybody had issues like this? One day stable other not? All temps were in acceptable range around 50 for NB and SB and 47 for Power so I would not say they are the factor here - but I might be mistaken.
If in your case dear reader ;) you never had situation like this on MF2 (one day stable other not) then also pls write as it is same importance info to me as if some one had same funny acting from Mobo.
Any input is welcome.
Becouse 490 is good when you use a quad, my max is 485 with Q6600( not much tweaking )Quote:
Originally Posted by ViViD
Guyz should i put washers everywhere or only to the NB area?:D:p:
I have better resolute with washers under every screw - but effects may differ depending on craftsmanship of your cooling. Mine is obviously crapy so when I was putting washers only under NB it was warping my Mobo even more then it is warped now (with washer under all screws) - and it is warped pretty badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Also because of less warping done the temps are better on some sensors (in compare to only NB washer mod). And way better then without any washers.
So in conclusion if your Mobo is straight as arrow without washers you can go for only NB washer mod and see what happens. If it is already warped in Power section around CPU socket then I would start from washer under all screws.
But best way is to try both ways IMHO :) and see what works best for you.
Hope it helps :D
OK M8 thanks for the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by seban
I will try to put everywhere.;)
One more thing I was also experimenting with 1mm steel washers for all screws and 2mm silicon for NB ones :) but still best results for my Mobo gave me same washer for each screw out there (in my case 2mm silicon ones).Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Hi Thanx M8
Could U Get Me Current Setting About X6 Multiplier CPU(Ratio CMOS Setting) With Max FSB On Q9550
Maybe I Cant Find Max FSB On MF2 With Quad??
I Cant Get Over 490 Too!!!
Has anyone tried 1802 bios ?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/so...rmula-1802.zip
Yes. Fixes Multiplier bug (on my Q6600)
And pull ins ? are they working?Quote:
Originally Posted by NazGulPRB
i think 1307, still the best, 1802 is better than others, multi switched twice on me when i overclocked at high rates, i also think a little better band with, seems to boot faster.
Do you mean the multiplier changed itself when you were overclocked in windows, or it did not boot at what you set it to in BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deboyzfun
Anyone done an everest bandwidth/latency comparison at the same settings with 1307 vs 1802?
Have experienced this issue, and found out after alot of testing that the CPU just is on the border of what it can take. My Q9550 was seemingly stable at 3.83ghz at 1,375v even 10runs of Linpack64 with 8gb ram, next reboot and it would not even be stable in ventrilo or general low power usage.Quote:
Originally Posted by seban
Backing it down to 3.7ghz fixed it permanently, and adding volt to the CPU@3.83ghz did not fix it, neither did adding NB/FSB volts to the m/b. My M2F seems to show the same instability on all quads at or around 450fsb, so I have given up on high FSB for 24/7 usage..
If adding volt to the CPU still produces instability, you could be seeing the end of the line for this chip, and if it's the FSB that causes the problems there is still possible tweaking left, but it might be a loong road ahead. I would suggest that you back off 100mhz or so, since trying to get it stable above the FSB/Mhz wall you are hitting might not be worth the hassle... Mine seemed better on 1:1 setting, but not not quite perfect there either....
I got hold of a very good QX9650@Q9550 price, and are now easily doing 4.0ghz 24/7 with 1.320v load with silent aircooling, I might go for more speed later if I can get hold of a "Ultra Kaze" at 1000-3000rpm, since this chip can reach 4.5-4.6ghz on air (allthough hotter then hell @ these clocks).
4.2ghz is the 24/7 target, as it needs around 1.40v for linpack stability, but for now 4.0ghz at very nice temps and silence, will do me just fine...
Much better George, good work. Made a big difference to my board too.
Thanks Cryptik..:cool:
I forgot to mention that i use a BTX case...!
Yeah quiet better like that m8...+1 for the WasherMod \o/
But don't care about that honnestly : what's up wit this MF bios men ?? Are we arrived at the end of the tunnel or what Cryptic ?
Gat my 12gb of DDR2 tomorow, so if it works for the bw : I'm buyin' :D
BIOS 1802
Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174 :down:
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s
Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.
1307
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/bios1307.png
1802
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/bios1802.png
thx for the washer mod results :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
my stupid P5Q doesnt report temps so its interesting for me to finally see them :shakes:
I should be getting this mobo tomorrow,whats the best bios for my Q9300?Im running 4x1gb corsair 800mhz DDR2 (maybe this effects the bios choice?)
I have read that the latest ones aint too shabby but cant find the one you guys preferred.
Very nice George! Seems that washers did the job. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Seems like my board should also benefit from them but there's no way i'm unistalling it... :p:
Thanks for sharing your findings m8! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I believe that the major bugs like vtt/vnb and pcie are still there...?
I will try to confirm this shortlyQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Thanks m8! Waiting for your findings...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hi all, just got my M2F a week ago and it's running fine till now, i wanted a A3 revision but couldn't resist, so now i'm a happy camper with A2, temps are correct and the Leds remind me of carnavals. once again Thanks CryptiK and all members in here for this great thread. :)
Thanks for info. I bumped volts and it is stable again at 3.97ghz. Degradation or lucky 10 linpacks and 1h Prime Blend on lower voltage day before?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ourasi
Anyway can't get it stable at 4ghz so far. Will test today 1802 bios maybe it will change something.
Also what voltage is considered safe for 24/7 q9550 in stress on Air? I read something about 1.365 which I am currently on :D
I cant get the vtt nb hang to happen...could someone else test thisQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
PCIE will boot till 106 then no post @ 475FSB ... could others test this as well
That sounds v nice. I will test vtt vNB gap and also PCIe once I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hi
http://i33.tinypic.com/vdjrc.jpg
But Is Not Stable
Thanks for the info. This will be the first new BIOS I've tried since 1307, looking forward to giving it a whirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
does any one know if there is any maxII rev A3 yet? just noticed that there sending out A3 P5Q-deluxes.
Changelog 1802
1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode
what was this issue ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
Items 1 and 2 are included in the changelog of 1702 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Items 5,6 and 7 are included in the changelog of 1602 bios.
Is this the true changelog of 1802 bios or asus is playing with us...? :D
this is quoted from Asus forums