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X48 is soo 6 months ago.
Not angry, amazed LOL!:rofl: I think the Striker is an even worse RIP Off. It is noted that I can afford this board and would buy a Skulltrail first though if I were in the market for something higher performance. The problem is I don't like wasting money on something I think is meant for suckers, hehehe! > :horse:< Now I understand why the manufactures think Enthusiast means more money than brains.:brick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
For the extra coin over something like the Abit talked about earlier, 2 more Frames is worth what again? What 525MHz FSB over 545 FSB is worth how much again?:up:
So why are waisting your valuable time in this thread???Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Foxcon also ready to launch P45 apparently :
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9395/q...sed/index.html
SO why are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by dread77
Well,OK, that makes sense...:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
ok seriously.. again.. when and where in the usa?
^^^^ yes, where and how much? (in usa)
Been waiting eagerly and patient for this MOBO but to the best of my knowledge it's not available anywhere. I am about to give up on this board and go the ASUS WS Evolution route... ...disappointed... :shakes:
Don't do it, as soon as you buy your asus the blockops will appear!]Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Halford
Wait, maybe you should get that asus, yea, hmmm, that could be good...
yea, that might just do it, yea, blackops is just a rumor, asus ,is the best, yea
better get that asus fast, yea, hmmmm, could work, hmmm, yea
a uk onlione shop has it listed for preorder with a eta of 26/05... so it might show up next week.
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Foxconn's highly anticipated BlackOPS motherboard based on Intel's X48 chipset was apparently just paper launched back in April. Thanks to a hint from one of our readers, we took a closer look at the e-tail/retail market just to find that BlackOPS is something like a myth, at least for retail.
Foxconn had officially announced the release of this motherboard back on April 18th and we are talking about the motherboard packed with high end stuff, such as an 8-phase digital PWM, four different chipset cooling options and much more. It is something that Foxconn liked to call an extreme overclocking board.
Back then, Foxconn's press release stated that it should be available sometime in April. Guess what, April has passed and even those fortunate people who can afford a $400 motherboard just can't buy it. According to our info, first samples should arrive sometime during this month, but the reasons behind the delay remain unknown.
Thanks goes to our reader, Tom.
And the response to above is here
S O U R C EQuote:
Foxconn delays stuff due to its “un-synchronization”
We had rather interesting comments from people very close to Foxconn, and this moment of truth actually explains why the stuff gets quite delayed.
The delay, according to our valuable sources, is due to the company's un-synchronization and the company's Research and Development, and especially the Marketing side is moving much faster than the Manufacturing and Sales sides.
Both of these sections have different priorities and perspectives and due to the past “robotic” work that they (Foxconn) are accustomed to.
Our sources believe that this won’t change until the internal infrastructure is changed. This is something that we’ve seen since Foxconn went to the channel market and started doing graphics cards and motherboards, but due to its bad synchronization it failed to seriously threaten any of these markets.
We hope that the company will see this as its wake up call.
Asus P5EWS64 Evo was present on Asus site more than a month before it got listed at any retailer. And after it got listed, it took two more weeks to become really available. So Foxconn delays are no exception.
finally its available @ newegg
why so hush hush?
and 16 hours on sale in US so far, isn't that the same old story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
but i got my shipped.......
and now waiting on the release of the Foxconn 790i Dreadnought :woot:
Yes it is :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186144
And what is better? A P45???Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Dont make me laugh.
They are in stock in the UK:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...%20Motherboard
But in comparison, the MSI that I got is over £120 less:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...%20Motherboard
The Foxconn is still a nice board for those with deep pockets full of cash though.
yea, that MSI looks nice, i see that it is ddr2 and ddr3, how does that work?
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Originally Posted by TedShred
Could this be used to bypass intel possible blockage of overclocking in anything but extreme chips?
It has two DDR2 slots and four DDR3 slots with a selecter card that you plug into the type of slot you arent using.Quote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
So while using DDR2, you plug the selecter card into the adjacent DDR3 slots:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...v/DSC00057.jpg
OCZ Flex II fits nicely with the selecter cards in the adjacent slots as they are only a single PCB.
Overclocking is hardly affected by this, I have gotten my ram to 1200 Mhz, FSB at 500 Mhz, but it is difficult getting the ram to that speed and requires a full day of stressing to get it stable. Once it is stable, it is good for as long as you dont touch the bios. If your overclock crashes and you need a CMOS clear, book another full day to overclock DDR2 ram to 1200 Mhz lol.
It was painful losing my 1200 Mhz ram clock after killing my overclocking by trying to set my CPU to 4500 Mhz, but I am slowly getting back there. :(
I can use OCZ Flex II for now which was only £99 for the best DDR2 ram available, and upgrade after DDR3 prices fall. Currently, 2x2 Gb of DDR3 1600 Mhz costs like £300-400 which is far too expensive compared to the Flex II. Cas 7 1333 Mhz DDR3 is going to be slower then my Cas 5 1200 Mhz, I will need at least 1600 Mhz for a worthwhile upgrade now. Worthwhile for playing with that is, not for actuall PC performance. Overclocking is my fun :)
But if you have the money, by all means go for the Foxconn and DDR3 if you want to. I couldnt afford that much :(
I just bought mine from the egg about 5-min ago. Not bad for the price of $400.00 compared to my Asus Striker II Extreme that cost me $550.00 from the egg as well. They gave me a full refund because of the problems they are having with that mobo. So $400.00 OTD is a steal in my book with all of the stuff you get. Only problem now is I have 2 9800GTX SSC cards.. I am going to try to trade one for a 3870 X2... I just hope this board does better then the S2E in OCing without the headaches... Fingers crossed... :)
Ouch ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
You could use one 9800 GTX for now and wait for the 4870 X2 in a couple of months.
Or you can just be impatient like me and buy 3800s right now :p:
$359 on the egg now is a pretty good deal versus all the problem of the Striker II for $459...
Cant wait to see how the P45 does. Is x8/x8 CF still okay or does x16 finally make a difference?
edit: just noticed that Foxconn claims its P45 has dual x16/x16 pcie 2.0 in CF mode?
Yep if the rumored 4870 is indeed +20-30% faster than a 9800GTX, then sell one and hold onto one then get two of them for CF in a month or two :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
From benchmarks, there is zero difference between 2x 8x and 2x 16x PCI-E slots, so the only determining factor between P45 and X48 should be how well they overclock as well as the price. From what I have seen so far, the P45 is dissapointing, its better to just get an X48 or if you are fine with a single graphics card, the P35.
Yeah, interesting to see that this time around the X48 is the better OC'er and the P45 is the right spot when it was flipped last time for the 3's
Really? Where have you seen heavy benching results using a P45 board?Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Try look at the other topics in the news section and maybe you will find it. My phone cant post links.
Just ordered this board.
1. Can someone LINK me a BIOS update for the RETAIL version board!! I cannot find it on there site or online as well. Looking for the newest one out? I think it may be the G20? Just got my board wanting to go to the newest BIOS...
2. Did anyone take off North & South bridge to reapply thermal compound in replace of the stock compound?
Thanks
I would also like this info. This will be my first Foxconn product ever but I decided to give them a shot after all the good reviews here on XS and also I didnt want to deal with the 790i issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
So please link if you know where to find the BIOS updates for this MB. :)
G20 is a beta BIOS. The latest beta BIOS is G21.
The latest public release is on the website.
I would not suggest removing the NB/SB, Hipro5 actually worsened his temps by doing so.
I received my FOXCONN BLACKOPS X48 TODAY!
It's the biggest badest motherboard i have EVER owned.
I just hope it performes 50% of how good it looks.
and the box is gigantic!
I am so excited!
I can't wait for the Foxconn Dreadnought to be released, then by by Evga and hello dual Foxconns, X48 and 790i.
Oh it's gonna be orgasmic! :hump:
I AM SO EXCITED!
I have received my brand new Foxconn BlackOps mobo from Newegg today to replace 790i Ultra SLI such as I am tired to alpha-test it's stability. My first impression was - wow, everything I could dream about is on it.
Then I have decided to replace the barbs such as I use 1/2. It was a surprise - chrome plated barbs were made with aluminum, and the black painted cover was also made using aluminum - there are some open spaces (non-painted) contacting with the water! Every water-cooling nOOb (including me) knows that it is better to avoid using different metals in the cooling circuit such as possibility of corrosion in this case due to free active ions of metal raises enormously ... There are 3 types of metal now in that circuit - chrome, copper and aluminum. How come that the advertised copper cover (it is easy to replace barbs with brass ones, therefore I don't care about them) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/518 is replaced with aluminum one?
Crap, now I need to spend a lot of time making that stupid copper cover instead of paying for it additional $2-3 ... if Foxconn wanted to save on it.
I don't understand such things. Can anyone explain to me what is going on?
"Figure 3: Cover that will come with the motherboard (Foxconn is still deciding on which material to use, acrylic or copper)." And decided to use aluminum?
It is a different product than presented on Foxconn's website:
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000385
Yea. they are so smart, yet so DUMB.
I am having a custom made acrillic top to use
fatboyz and have a few holes for my UV LED's
that will rock!
Hmm, it makes sense! Where are you going to purchase it? Well, it is pretty easy to make acrylic ones though.Quote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
BTW the aluminum issue is more serious than I thought - Foxconn can have a legal process against it for misrepresentation, on the box it is purely stated, that:
"4in1 Quantum Cooler. The unique all-copper modular designed 4 in 1 Quantum Cooler enables effective cooling of the NB, SB and VRM areas. Swap out the NB parts to configure it for air, water or more exciting forms of cooling!"
It means all-copper statement legally is relative not only to the block and it's cover (which is actually shown on the box's picture as a copper one), but to LN2 unit as well. Foxconn should hire a good lawyer to review their statements, especially here in the USA, or they will loose like Dell lost just recently ...
Same thing on mine. They did a really good job applying the thermal paste and its not some junk brand either its the premium stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_M
As far as the aluminum. The ES one I had seen was made from delrin not metal. The chipset cooler itself is all copper just the top isnt so theres really no grounds there. LOL if you wanna :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: about something not being copper go check out some Asus heatsinks painted to look like copper.
AMEN!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
I was going to make a post with pictures asking wtf was going on, but thought I shouldn't get over emotionally evolved...:down:
Having the BlackOps NB aircooled with the supplied tiny fan just don't cut it. its crazy loud, and grossly inefficient to say the least, with temps in excess of 47C IDLE. That leaves just the water cooling for us non-LN2 users, then this :banana::banana::banana::banana: happens...:rolleyes:
WHY BLOODY ALUMINIUM???
Any comments Quantum Force "Scholars"?
I don't wanna :banana: :banana: :banana: about anything, I just want to have inactive ingredients in my WC loop, that's it. Delrin cover would be fine as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
I don't buy any ASUS part at all, its not an issue for me.
I have an Enzotech NB cooler on mine it idles about 50C and burns my finger under load. My ES was much lower than that with the orginal cooler though maybe you have a bad mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I think I have a solution for air cooling. I used my Swiftech MC14 Ramsinks http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcbgamera.html with Akasa thermotape on the block, adding to it 80mm fan like this http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-54-14 instead of a stock one.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
It looks fine, is silent and have quite effective dissipation if you will add 6-8 ramsinks.
I don't think you understand why we are complaining about the use of aluminum on the NB. It is not that it reduceses the cooling ability of the heat sink, evident in that delrin or acrylic will be better substitute. It is the fact that mixing metals in watercooling loops causes galvanic corrosion, and that all previous marketing material of the BlackOps cooling system pointed to the fact(indirectly) that no aluminum is present in the NB waterblock chamber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
Have a read through the liquid cooling forum and you'll gain some watercooling facts. :)
Intel X38/X48 above 45-47 degree becomes very unstable(from my experience). Under water now with temps around 28 degree, so im fine for now, just need to watch the block from corrosion from the Aluminum...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.Planet
You want me to remove the stock heat sink and replace it with those ramsinks on the X48 chipset?? :shocked::shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Oh I see what you mean... but doesn't that makes the NB block look like a cactus? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
What's wrong in it? Are you a cactus-fob? ;) Look:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1210522040
IMO it looks even better like this than with empty spaces, but all tastes are different ...
Also it will be "a copper cactus under a green tree" (80 mm fan with green LEDs in it), therefore it will be masked :D
I have attached images of "cactus" and then final view with the fan, doesn't look too bad for me, at least better than to have aluminum in the main loop forever, IMO. Now it is definitely all-copper :D
P.S. As we can see, the chipset WB is significantly more restrictive than previously advertised on Foxconn's website and on the box ... I would definitely need a second loop for it with DDC2 ... or stuck with air-cooled version - which is not bad as well, but we need to see the temps a bit later.
If you can type you can post links.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
I want to confirm your statement about loudness/efficiency of the stock NB fan with it's specification, my fan is AFB0512HHD:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/d...50x50x20mm.pdf
As we can see, it has 6400 RPM with 12V and max CFM 18.3 (0.518 m3/min) having 37dB of noise at that speed - according to specification. Such as being installed it is located really close to the cooler, the pressure goes up, as well as CFM goes down according to the graph on specification and noise of flowing air with turbulence becomes like twice louder than 37dB in specification.
Please understand me correctly, I don't want to blame the board (having 790i before, LOL), but the air-cooling version of 4in1 Quantum definitely needs a modification for silent and more efficient operations, as well as to be "all-copper" for WC (or at least delrin-copper, acrylic-copper).
Used by me SilenX IXP-54-14 fan has only 14dB of noise at 32 CFM@1700RPM, and I have located it not so close to the cooler using 40mm spacers (pressure stays low enough, as well as noise due to significantly less turbulence), therefore noise and airflow are the same as on specification. The dissipating surface is more than doubled with attached 8 ramsinks, it means with the doubled airflow (32CFM vs 18.3 down to approximately 16 or less due to a raised pressure level) the system becomes at least 4 times more efficient being almost silent, such as level of noise it depressed by -23dB or significantly more taking in mind the additional air flow noise due to close location of the stock fan. I used spacers like those:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/im...?tl=g30c95s162
I have some professional calibrated equipment to measure the difference in noise levels for the same conditions, but it is not necessary ATM. BTW the stock 780i/790i cooler fan is pretty loud also.
Can you link me a BETA BIOS like G20 and G21? Or anyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by T_M
Thanks
When the problem comes.,.,,.,.,. = no support
Hehe, we can solve our problems, can't we? Who cares about support? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ego
I am installing XP and Vista on BlackOps now, everything looks much more reliable than with 790i, like all standard MBs - but the over-clocking BIOS (Quantum BIOS) is very detailed - its perfect.
As I suggested temps on modified air-cooled NB are pretty good - separate measurement on the cooler (Kaze Master) is around 32C working with default settings - I mean not idle, but during installation process, motherboard shows 40C on NB ... this is OK for me.
Glad you're happy but for what it costs, it should be well supported. The more you guys accept shoddiness, over priced and seemingly not ready to ship like this, the more companies will take advantage of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
I agree with you 100%, but after experience with 790i during a month I am not spoiled anymore and glad just to have a working (over-clockable) board. I have never used support in the past for working parts though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
BTW the mod looks pretty nice installed, "the cactus" is completely hidden underneath of fan
:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Nicely executed:up: It's funny that of the 4 ways of cooling advertised, only the LN2/DICE pot functions up to standard without modification:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Sweet Mod just as it is! Hey I agree with you about the 790!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Unfortunately, LN2 part is made using plastic, and such as Quantum 4in1 cooling solution advertised as "all-copper", it is also out of the specifications :rofl:Quote:
It's funny that of the 4 ways of cooling advertised, only the LN2/DICE pot functions up to standard without modification:rofl:
Thanks! BTW 790i is the most unstable MB I had during my whole PC experience time, and I have started with XT (8086) ... and mainframes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Stay out of the nVidia Mobo Fan threads, no matter how truthful, you'll get bashed to death!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Well I am up and running but so far not thrilled. Not sure if I have a RAM or MB prob.
Anytime I take the RAM off of AUTO settings it crashes and won't boot into Vista 64.
The RAM is supposedly rated at 1600Mhz 7-6-6-18 OCZ platinum
but I can't get it to boot Vista at all at anything other than "auto" settings on the MB, which sets the RAM to 1066Mhz :(.
I set it to 1600Mhz 9-8-8-24 and 1.75V and it will barely post, and won't boot Vista.
Actually anytime I take the RAM off auto it just crashes.
More tweaking is obviously needed. First time to use 8GB so the quantity involved may be having an effect. Think I am going to just leave one stick in there and see what happens.
Most probably it is OCZ RAM. I have purchased it and couldn't run at stock speed on 790i, then I have replaced it (RMAed) with Crucial Ballistix DDR3-2000 and had been able not only run it, but also lower the timings from stock 9-9-9-28 to 8-8-8-24-1T@2000, but at 1800 it couldn't able to run at 7-7-7-21-1T@2V, still need 8-7-7-21-1T. Then I have seen that mostly overclockers use Corsair DDR3-1800C7DF with uber timings and decided to try it. I have purchased it and it was able to run it 7-6-5-18-1T@1840 MHz@2V ... but the random stability issue was killing me, sometimes 790i was stable during days, sometimes it was frozen during an hour or after a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
I applied 2T instead of 1T and it seems that stability improved, but then it came again. I have tried everything, GTLVREF, different voltages according to successful peoples settings, nothing helped. I have found some kind of parasitic oscillation on the CPU during heavy load test (Everest).
I gave up.
Try slackening all your timings manually. The BIOS sets quite agressive timings, particularly in the subs.
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Originally Posted by T_M
I just set it to 1.92V, 10-10-10-24, 2T and it still BSODs while loading Vista at 1600Mhz. :( :confused:
I then go back into the BIOS during restart and "load optimized defaults" which will then hang the computer after saving and exiting.
The only way to get it to boot again is to push the little CMOS button on the MB.
Does anyone know what brand of RAM is best for Foxconn?
Only getting 1066 on 1600Mhz RAM is unaceptable and a huge waste of money.
If I cant figue it out or get help from the OCZ or Foxconn people may have to RMA both and go back to my usual ASUS + Corsair (which has always given me super reliable overclocks). :(
Have to remove half of you RAM and just go with 4GB instead of 8GB. I saw on another forum where a guy said he had better luck with 6GB. Just a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
A lot of RAM folks love to lie to over sell crappy RAM. I got Gskill PK that's supposed to be 800MHz that will only stay stable at 667MHz. This was after RAMing BZ that wouldn't run at 800MHz either. I will not say I'll never buy from them again, but they're at the bottom of my list.:rolleyes: I'm talking about stock configs LOL, no overclocking. HZ can be the best in the world, but that changes nothing in my case.
My Cheap Foxconn P35A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...86119&Tpk=P35A
Only fault is that it will not wake up from Deep sleep mode. Same config with the cheap DS3L Gigabyte had ZERO problems and even seemed faster.
Last but not least, please don't burn your RAM up trying to drop the timings. Unlike past processor from AMD and Intel, memory timings just aren't as crucial for great performance. Smart memory management for Processor Cache and System memory takes care of that;)
http://www.intel.com/technology/maga...6.htm#section7
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/
Intel® Smart Memory Access,
improving system performance by optimizing the use of the available data bandwidth
Intel® Advanced Smart Cache, providing a higher-performance, more efficient cache subsystem. Optimized for multi-core and dual-core processors.
These two help lessen negative effects of the FSB and off-die memory controller. RMA it if it doesn't run as advertised but that would be the only reason to worry about it IMHO!
I just got a response back from OCZ support and they say that rated timings are for one kit and I should not expect to get over 1500Mhz with 8GB. :down:
So going to RMA the OCZ on Monday and pony up the extra cash for some Corsair XMB SPD certified sticks.
Is this the response you received? I believe Simon is indicating that 8GB may not be plug and play instead of stating it isn't possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
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Originally Posted by SimonOCZ
Well, I have running my Corsair at 9-9-9-24-1T@2V (auto) now without any problem, will do real overclocking tomorrow and report - had no time to do it today. IMO it shouldn't be worse than with 790i ...Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Thanks for a good advice :yepp: I modified that one as well, as you can see on the picture above http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1210522040 ... I have also added some MC14 ramsinks to the sides of NB cooler (only 3 could fit :( ) and used this fan http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/pro...E.SPOTCOOL.JPG througn Kaze Master @2,500-2,600 RPMQuote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
The temps on 790i NB were down to 60-62C comparing to stock 67-69C (OC, loaded) with significantly lowered noise. This x48 mod is much better though - more efficient, lower temps around 41-43C (OC, loaded), lower fan RPM (1800 vs 2600), even lower noise, better look.
x48 NB dissipates significantly less power then NB of 790i though AFAIK, thats a plus, RAID performance is another HUGE plus, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
This board seems to hate OCZ DDR3 i can not get any of there 1600,1800 or 2000 MHz sets to run without failing memtest after seconds, Yet if i use any Corsair Dominator or DHX it works like a charm. I've manualy set all the ram setting and it makes little difference, I just cannot understand why OCZ DDR3 has such a hard time working when the Corsair stuff clocks well even with full auto settings.
I am also curious why you came over here and posted this and you have not even been back to your thread for more troubleshooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
If you have a defective kit, then OCZ will make it right. Please do not assume that nothing will be done.
Please follow up over at the OCZ forums and let us help you.
Thank you. :)
I have access to multiple kits, The 1600Mhz kit for example will pass memtest at 1400Mhz but no ammount of tweaking will make it work at 1600 Mhz, Yet a Corsair Dominator or DHX 1600 MHz kit will work on full auto settings. This is only the second board i've had with DDR3 so manybe i am missing something, But there seems to be some issues with this board and OCZ DDR3
Maybe someone from OCZ can suggest some settings that will work ?
Well I have already RMAed it back to Newegg. I do not want to spend days trying to get 1333-1400Mhz stable on sticks that are supposedly rated at 1600Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
I would rather spend my time trying to get an actual overclock.
I am not inexperienced and have been building PCs for abut 6 years, so, while not a professional, I do know for the most part what I am doing.
The fact that your professional employees state that they have not been able to get over 1500Mhz stable, says to me, "then why should I waste my time?" Also it begs the question of why you advertise them at 1600Mhz? :confused:
I ordered 8GB of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145190 Intel XMB SPD certified RAM to replace it.
As to why I posted here, it is because I have been a member here for awhile (and a lurker for even longer). I trust XS for unbiased discussion even though I usually just read and do not post.
Also it looks like someone else is now reporting major problems with OCZ RAM on this board.
I am looking for a new mobo and this looks really interesting :)
subscribed
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Originally Posted by ceevee
OMG, that is some killer ram.... keep us posted...
You're welcomed!Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Holy Cow!:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
there's been some discussion that these boards have a look of trouble with FSB OCin on dual core CPUs...............
how are you guys finding it?
For me FSB was a nightmare.
Anyhow right now my board wont even boot anymore, so going to spend some loving moments with it and a screwdriver this week to kick start it back to life
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by T_M
Seriously, what happened?
I owe you and OCZ an apology. The problem is 100% the Foxconn motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
The 8GB of Corsair XMB certified sticks perform just as poorly so far.
In fact it has taken me longer to get the Corsair sticks stable at all than it did the OCZ RAM.
I spent over 3 hours today tinkering and was unable to get this board to post at all with the new XMB RAM.
Finally I got some old 1GB CAS9 sticks and used them to get into the BIOS, then manually adjusted the settings and voltages and swapped the XMB sticks, and FINALLY got it to post.
This board is in an "alpha" state IMHO. Do not buy this unless you want to spend hours in frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_M
Deja Vu.. I remember comments like this when DFI first released a board that could do what no other board, at the time, could.
There are some good results with this board, I bet Foxconn and Shamino get it dialed in just fine :)
No apology necessary, you saw first hand, that boards clock ram, not the other way around ;)
You can't just put eleventy billion MHz ram in a board and ask why it won't run its rated speed :)
With the discrepancy between 1GB and 2GB modules.. I am 99% sure a bios will fix the problems.
Having the timings "line up" can help with 2GB sticks.
Set the Tras at 24.
Set the Trc at Tras + Trp
Set the Trfc to a minimum of Trc + Tras, with 60-72 really helping things out with 2GB modules.
I have also seen the great results posted with this board, however everyone seems to be using 2x1GB (2GB total RAM) which is fine if you are benching SuperPI, but not so great if you want to run Vista 64.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
I really hope you are right and a new BIOS is released soon to address these issues, if not its back to ASUS for me and this will be my last Foxconn product.
I can confrim this first hand. Very cheap ($90) CAS9 2x1GB set from Corsair will run Vista for me at 9-9-9-24 1333Mhz. However Corsair's nicest sticks ($1400, Intel XMB SPD certified for 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18, 4x2GB) will not even post at 9-9-9-24 1333Mhz no matter what I set the voltage to. This is the exact same problem I had on this board with the nice OCZ RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
It seems like putting 2GB sticks of any configuration in this board is asking for trouble.
Thank you for the help. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
I will try it.
I have a board on the way, I know Raja also has a board and is already doing very well with low VTT compared to everyone else. I ONLY test with 4 and 8GB now, 2GB for me is dead...hell i don't even request 1GB dimms any more ;)
If there are some bios tweaks needed I am sure it will get sorted....even DFI/Asus have had issues in the past with 2GB modules, Asus if you remember were forcing tRFC to low.
I have no problems running Vista 64 Ultimate with Ready Boost and 2x1Gb sticks at 7-6-5-18-1T@2.0V@1680 MHz linked, CPU@4.2 GHz for now. Please note that with faster memory you don't need to raise it's size. Of course I will add 2 more sticks some day, but I don't feel like it is necessary technically ATM, just to have more free memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I disagree that this board is in alpha stage, it is a great product with a lot of adjustments, it is definitely not easy to understand it's BIOS settings, but as soon as you do, it works fine and rock-prime-whatever stable, at least for me.
For starters, disable readyboost, its worthless with 2gigs. See if that helps.
Still cant believe they screwed it up in the end by pinching a few pennies and changing the prototype boards Copper/Brass NB waterblock top to Anodized Aluminum.
Please see this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=119
Can you explain why overclocking in the BIOS doesn't actually produce an overclock? Or why Cpt. Planet has also had this problem (and he wrote the bloody overclocking guide, so its pretty obvious I am not making a simple mistake?)
Here is the post:
Looks pretty bloody alpha to me. Newegg will not accept an RMA of this board and basically I am getting close to contacting my bank to file a dispute with the credit card company for being sold a defective, falsely advertised product.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Check if your setting "CPU frequency unlimited" in BIOS is settled to disabled?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Yeah, it is unbelievable ... for "high end" board ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaskar
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/...you-234109.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
See if this helps for non-starters, especially with a fast flash drive (>27-30 Mbs red-write).Quote:
In Tom's Hardware tests, ReadyBoost decreased application launch times dramatically on a low-RAM system when partnered with SuperFetch. SuperFetch knew which apps to load onto the faster USB 2.0 flash drive, which then provided quicker access.
The gains when you have a machine with 1GB of RAM diminish, and diminish further when you have 2GB of RAM. However, if you've still got a ReadyBoost-capable drive, you'll still see benefits even on a 2GB machine.
Like I said please reply to the PM so we can get the issue sorted out. I had the issue with only one of the earlier bioses on a beta board. I dont have my 9650 and wont have a 9770 for a few weeks. But also make sure the Frequency Unlimit and it is set to Native Mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceevee
Max QuadFSB on air is 421MHz, BIOS G21, VNB1,5V:down:
RAM devider 1:4 333 worked best with SST 1800DDR3 (Micron D9GTR), 1:4 400 didn't work.
I'll install some watercooling components soon.
Any toughts to push the FSB higher?
Some hardmods? Soldering is my speciality;)
I have the same results wih G22 BIOS. I used to run QX9650 at 450MHz on BlackOps and I have seen screeshots of it at 482 MHz, but higher FSB requires pretty high Vnb, on my modified air cooler the temp goes up to 55C using Prime95, I can imagine how high it will be with the stock air cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by corross
Therefore I have decided to stay with 420FSB for now ... not anymore, it works fine with 430 MHz wih G25 BIOS