Just set it to 1.60V manual when using latest bios, dont remember which...
It will be 1.66V no matter how high the fsb... its ok for any cpu ;)
1.5V will reach much higher if u use the same latest bios... (cause is the same as Auto mode)
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Cheers guys I will set them accordingly and see how we go.:clap:
Edit : NFG guys. Still refuses to cold boot. I even raised the vNB up to 1.5v . I might slacken the timings maybe. Currently at 5-5-5-15. I'd rather speed over tight timings anyway. But when I tested my ram first they were good for a measly 430mhz before I had to loosen them up.
Edit 2 : I'm using the yellow ddr2 slots. I have been advise not to use the black for reasons unknown to me.
Tku you all Guys.
Yes i do have the latest Bios.
Tonight i will change the values.
Mordorr:up:
PLL at 1.60.
Others options at minimum, except Vcore at Ram voltage, at 2.1V.
Also i did put a litle more FSB on the RAM:D
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4...0pll160dn9.png
Back to business:up::D:p:
Use the white ones
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate ou Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
LEVEL: 1 ou 2
Always set all to voltages to a value different then auto or the minimum one cause all of the raises when u raise fsb it its on auto or minimum value...
Like this:
put it vnb on 1.4V
vpll in 1.60v
vfsb 1.3V
CPU GTL in 63x
NB GTL 63x
and enable the load line calibration
Cheers for the input but I don't have white slots, yellow and black is what I have. Also I don't have this Ai clock twister in my bios options. I also tried all those options you have listed and others and nothing worked. I know my ram is not causing it as even though it's not fast as they an go I tested them right up too 450mhz, thats as far as I went with the ram...
I just booted my pc up now since shutting it down at stock values last night and it would not boot up. It took numerous shots to get it to boot then it said my overclock had failed even when there was no overclock:shrug:
I think i have no option but to go back to 0903 but it did not let me get the cpu anywhere over 3.5ghz no matter what I tried. Just would not boot at all. It was a bit better with the latter bios versions but I have an old DS3P here and a spare E6600 and a E4300 as well I might do some swapping around to found out what the culprit is.
I'm going to try the black slots before I start swapping parts around.
Im using also Black.
before i was using yellow, and my Muskin died...
Maybe coincidence...:rolleyes:
Strange though, I have been told NOT to use the black if I want to overclock:shrug:
We'll see soon maybe.
Edit : Well I changed to black and it posted and is booting as I type! Better than what it was doing before already but I'm not holding my breath.
Edit 2 : Well holy bejesus! It rebooted at a massive 3.5ghz, better than it ever did. Its amazing how just different ram slots will make such a difference. I wonder why they are different in the first place. The real test will be tomorrow morning booting up from stone cold, off to play some BF hero's now.:frag:
I'll try some more later.
Just booted it up at a slight overclocked speed of 3.5ghz after nearly 24hrs and it booted. Which it never did before, now the test it to see will it bork at 3.6ghz like it did with the 0906 bios.
What do I set the FSB Strap to aswell?
bios 1102 is out now (asus website)
@Zero939
What new with the new bios? Any improvements?
Its not on their website, 1013 is still the latest according to this.
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
http://i33.tinypic.com/11ql444.jpg
ive noticed two new options that help achieve a higher fsb
i'm still using 0602 b/c of the usb -keyboard w/ hub b/s. anyone try the new bios??? :)
@Zero939
Alright thanks :)
hi...I ahve a question about the pencil vdroop mod...:D
what kind of pencil is needed? an H3 could be good? or a soft pencil like 2B is necessary?
sorry for my bad english..thanks..:rolleyes:
Cheers mate, they must not have updated it when I looked at the AU site. It's there now.
@ Maxxpower, I have just used a 4B and it has worked. Also the 1102 bios is on and working, a couple of new options in there for enhanced FSB overclockabilty as mentioned but I am yet to notice anything else different.
Has anyone else had problems with the WIFI/AP causing stuttering when enabled? I'm using the latest bios but I get intermittent pauses whenever it's enabled and the 'SYSTEM' process jumps to 100% on one core for a few seconds. Not sure how to solve it but it's killing the board for me! :-(
Anyone? WIFI causing stuttering?
Nope
i flashed to 1102 but my usb kb problem was still present so i flashed back to 0602! didn't get into windows on 1102 so i can't comment on the "wifi stuttering"
What is the best bios for this?
I've got this weird thing with my bios where my Q6600 running at 450 x 8 only allows me to run my memory at: 950, 1080 or 1450mhz. That's it. No other options. I wonder if this is fixable as i'm getting faster ram and would like to be able to set it at 1200mhz.
where can i find the bios ?
The asus site doesnt have.
regards
I'm trying to get a stable 3.6ghz clock on my Q6600 and have been trying various CPU voltages to achieve this. Here are my results so far:
vCPU - Prime95 Result (Highest core temp at end of run)
1.3875 - Core 3 error after 1 minutes (n/a)
1.4000 - Core 3 error after 2 minutes (n/a)
1.4125 - Core 3 error after 6 minutes (n/a)
1.4250 - Core 3 error after 2 hours (65)
1.4375 - Core 3 error after 3 hours (71)
1.4750 - No errors 8 hours (77)
Does it seem possible that I would be able to get a Prime95 stable OC using a vCPU of 1.4250/1.4375 (bolded above) if I was to tweak some of my other BIOS settings from below?
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7889/img0944hg8.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5488/img0945wx9.jpg
I dont have any luck with Q6600s and anything over 0602 bios with this board. Tried the 1102, does the same thing 1013 does - anything over 3.6 will BSOD while running Prime95. I can get my current chip up over 3.8 prime stable with 0602. My last B3 was stable up to 3735 with 0602, wouldnt go a notch over 3.6 with 1013.
Anyone else have problems with the newer bioses limiting quad OCs?
TBH when using E8400 and E3110s I had no issues with the latest bioses, just with the quads.
My settings using 0602 bios:
400 x 9 = 3600Mhz
266 Strap
vCore: 1.45 Bios
vCore: 1.40 Load
vDimm: 2.2
DDR2 Timings 5 5 5 15 == 1000mhz
Dram Command rate: 2N (2T)
Ref cycle time = 30 (dependent on your DDR2)
vSB: 1.2
vNB: 1.4
GTL ref CPU = Auto
GTL ref NB = Auto
Loadline Calibration... = Enabled
Spread spectrums = Disabled
CPU features = Disabled (vt, TM, C1E, EIST)
everything else = Auto
Really happy with this run and my P5K-E, again this is only possible with 0602 though.
http://3dxtreme.net/other/Q6600%20L7...4-11hrdone.jpg
Any links for where I could find the 0602 bios? it is not on the Asus website...
Edit: Nvm. a little google fixed my problem. Here it is if you want it http://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...P5K-E/0602.zip
Edit: It tells me that the EEPROM type is incompatible.... wth does that mean?
You have to use this version of Asus Update and go into options, check the downgrade bios option. This will allow you to go back.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=65
Hi..
I'm fairly new to the world of Overclocking and would be grateful for a little advice please.
I would like to get my E6600 2.4GHz Conroe up to 3.6GHz on an air cooling system. However, I keep getting BSODs when testing with Orthos. I don't think it's a temperature issue as when the BSODs occur, it's usually at a temperature which hasn't caused a stop error on a 3.4GHz overclock. So before I go a little mental changing voltages, some pointers would be cool.
System Info:
P5K-E WiFi
BIOS 1102
2GB Corsair DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 (4-4-4-12) (currently in black slots)
Sapphire ATI Radeon x1950 Pro 512MB
Zalman CNPS9500 Processor Fan
4 LED Case Fans
550W PSU
Idle Temp @ 3.6Ghz - 27c (Core1 32C, Core2 34C)
Load Temp at time of BSOD - 58C (Temps taken from SpeedFan and CoreTemp)
Does anything there look like it needs tweaking?Code:BIOS Settings:
FSB Freq = 400
PCIE Freq = 100
DRAM Freq = DDR2-801MHz
DRAM Command Rate = Auto
DRAM Timing = 4-4-4-12
Transaction Booster = Disabled
Relax Level = 0
CPU Voltage = 1.4875V
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.60V
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.30V
DRAM Voltage = 2.10V
NB Voltage = 1.40V
SB Voltage = 1.05V
Clock Over-Charging Voltage = AUTO
Load-Line Calibration = Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference = AUTO
NB GTL Voltage Reference = AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
CPU Clock Skew = AUTO
NB Clock Skew = AUTO
CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio = AUTO
C1E, Max CPUID, Vanderpool, CPU TM, Execute Disable Bit, Intel Speed Step = Disabled
Is it likely that 3.6Ghz is too much to expect from an air cooled system?
Also, when I initially setup the system, one of the first things I did was to update the BIOS to 1102. I haven't found any reference to that version being particularly buggy but have found plenty of threads/posts where people have been far happier with earlier versions (0603, 1012 & 1013). Would it be wise to try flashing the BIOS with one of those versions? Would that help me hit 3.6GHz in a stable fashion?
Thanks for any advice possible..as I said earlier i'm a bit of a noob so be gentle with me :)
Cheers.
I get BSODs with any BIOS later than 0602 and my Q6600s when overclocking 3.6+. I'd suggest trying BIOS 0602 really.
Thanks dnottis...I may give that a shot.
Although, when I tried to downgrade BIOS to 0603 previously, I wasn't able to do it. In the Asus Update tool I made sure the downgrade option was checked but it advised that it could only be done via DOS. But when trying through the DOS tool via USB stick I got the following error: ROM file boot block is not valid. When trying other 06x and 09x versions through DOS, I was told that the BIOS version was too old and to download the latest version from Asus. I got similar errors when trying through the EZupdate feature too. I tried again with the Asus update tool but this time with 1013 and that could be done but I didn't go ahead with it. If I want to get down to 0602 or 0603 will have to flash to 10x then 09x then 06x?
EDIT: Well I managed to get 0602 on by using a different version of afudos so I just need to do a little testing.
Thanks again :)
Pencil vdroop mod FTW! ;)
I've been looking into the pencil mod but i'm a little apprehensive about screwing things up. I've seen two guides which were both supposedly for the P5K-E board but the location to mod was different.
Is anyone able to confirm 100% (with screenshot if possible please) the exact place I need to 'fix' please?
On a side note, I'm not fairing any better with 0602 but I will persevere for now as the pencil mod may help things along.
I had the exact same problem and was very close to RMA'ing my board. However, I managed to sort the problem out by removing the AzureWave AW-GA800BT (Realtek RTL8187) card from my old P5W DH Deluxe and fitting it to the P5K-E. I haven't had one drop out since. Although both boards use the RTL8187 wireless module, there must be subtle differences between them as I've found loads of forums where lots of P5K-E users are having the same problems. It doesn't seem to matter which drivers you use either as I tried a wide variety but none helped.
As a quick workaround, you could try making a batch file which you can use to disable/re-enable the wireless adaptor without the need to go into the Device Management console. Not sure if that will help anyone considering just how flaky it can be....at its worse, it happened every few minutes for me. I would consider myself lucky if I got 1 hour uninterrupted browsing.
I did the pencil mod but still having some problems....Orthos BSODs within a minute of starting the CPU stress. Prime95 lasts quite a bit longer but it's still far from ideal. I think I may just be at the limits of my cpu on air cooling.
Gonna keeps testing with the 0602 BIOS though.
Give it a bit more voltage and see if you get anymore out of it.
If Orthos is failing that fast and prime isnt... make sure you are running small FFTs to tax the CPU, blend will tax ram too. If you are running blend it might be your memory and not the CPU - just be sure for now you are running small FFTs to test the CPU, then you can run memtest loop test 5 for awhile to see if the ram is stable at said settings.
I've moved up to BIOS 0603 now as I wasn't very successful with 0602.
When using Orthos, I was only running the small FFTs test. I'm not sure if it makes any difference but i'm using Vista Ultimate x32..i've read a few threads where people have experienced near instant crashes with Orthos but Prime95 is much more stable for them so i'm not sure if that is happening to me.
Also, i'm have some inconsistencies regarding temps. CoreTemp, Asus Probe 2 and SpeedFan record pretty low temps of around 26/27C for the CPU and about 31-33C for the cores but Intels Thermal Analysis Tool records the cores as anything between 35C and 45C. Which one should I regard as more accurate?
Finally, I decided to start from scratch with the clock settings and have been using Clunk's P5K addon as a marker. I'm currently at a FSB of 380MHz and the only other settings I have changed is pcie to 100, enabled dampner, set ram timings to 4-4-4-12 and dram voltage to 2.1v which are the details printed on the modules. I've also disabled spread spectrum and the settings in CPU configuration. I'm gonna test things then try take it up in incriments of 5 on the FSB then start to raise the vcore, pll, nb, sb voltages if need be.
Thanks for the continued help.
Now that you mention it, I had to run orthos as admin (right click shortcut, run as admin) to get it to work - but that was with my dual core CPUs. With a Quad you want to use Prime 25.6 is the latest one. Make sure you ram is running at 800 at those timings. The ram is spec'd for DDR2800 @ 4-4-4-12 so with your overclock you memory might be well OC'd and 4-4-4-12 might not work. So make sure which ever divider your memory is at (and ram speed) is not too far OC'd.
With a quad dont use Orthos or Intel TAT - use Realtemp for temperatures and Prime 25.6.
are p5k deluxe and p5k-e motherboard bios crossflashable since the 0603 bios works on both?
Why would you use p5k deluxe bios?
Just a little update.
I've saved two OC profiles which i'm happy with:
380x9 (3.42GHz) - 1:1 DDR2-760MHz (1.4375v Vcore)
400x8 (3.21GHz) - 1:1 DDR2-800MHz (1.3875v Vcore)
Both are stable with Prime95 for at least 6 hours (haven't tested for longer as yet but no errors at all) but they both BSOD with Orthos within an hour. Should I be concerned about that? When I run Prime95, I choose the small FFTs option and both cores are definitely being stressed. Would it be wise to use a blend or large FFTs test with Prime95 to confirm stability?
I'm also going to lap my cpu next week which should shave of a few degrees off idle and load temps. I'm not particularly worried about my temps at the mo (29C idle, 60C load) but I think they are an issue when i'm trying for a 400x9 OC so it may help. Plus i'm going to replace my Zalman CNPS9500 with an Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + Zalman 120mm fan asap.
Thanks for all the advice so far :)
bios 1102 is here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5K-E/
Just a little update on my overclock progress:
I've lapped both my heatsink and cpu with good results. Idle temp has gone down a couple of degrees and load temps and few more too....although the whole process took a lot longer than I expected it to. I probably spent about 4 hours from start to finish doing it but it was worth it and it's all a learning process.
Also, I've finally managed to get a 3.6GHz overclock but i'm a little concerned that i'm risking things with too much voltage (1.5375v in BIOS, 1.520 in cpu-z). Idle temps range from 33C to 37C but they hit 70C under load. It's Prim95 stable for 30 mins....I haven't tested it for any longer as I think it would fail at some point. Is this pushing things too far? The Intel spec sheet says 1.5v is the 'max' for an E6600 and temps should be under 60C.
I haven't got a Thermalright Ultra 120 as yet as i'm not 100% sure it will fit my case (Enermax Black Knight CS527). Would it make a noticeable difference anyway? If it's a tight squeeze into the case, would that be counter-productive to airflow? I'm currently using a Zalman CNPS9500 which is pretty good but if i'm able to lower temps with another heatsink, i'd be more than happy to give it a shot. Ultimately, i'd like a good water cooling kit but finances are a little tight so i'm trying to do things to a budget but I may just put some cash aside for a while so I can invest in a kit and a specialist case.
They recalled 1102 for some reason. I've been using it without detriment but I does anyone know what was wrong with it?
So would people definitely say that 0602 is the best bios so far for the Q6600?
What kinda voltages/bios settings are people using for 450MHz+?
If they have recalled it...now its back both in the FTP and on the main site.
is it worth cahanging to? or is it just trouble?
yea, for me 0602 is the one for a 65nm quad. Any newer bios is not stable over 3.6Ghz, will BSOD during Prime or randomly reboot on me. No issues with 0602 however. I'm running 400 x 9 @ 1.34v and 425 x 9 @ 1.44v both prime stable. NB at 1.45v, everything else lowest possible selection.
Ok, been playing around and been crossflashing the board to the P5K Premium bios... Now before I let it boot into Windows and have XP re-detect everything, what bios would people say is better, the P5K-E or the Premium bios? Latest versions or both (1102 and 0702 respectively...)?
Does anyone have any templates for 475MHz with a Q6600 on this board? I just can't seem to push it past 450MHz with this Q6600 and it's doing my head in!!!
I just performed the vDroop mod, now I get 1.256v with 1.275v set in the bios but it doesn't move at all!!! I used conductive ink in the end, after comparing it to the pencil and it made no difference but the mod doesn't wear out over time (well, no risk of it).
Why does this board have such a bad vDroop?
With voltage damper (load line calibration) mine wasn't too bad. I have since disabled it and pencil modded it instead.
I have both done, and 1.256v real for 1.275v bios is the closest I can get. This is a rev1 P5K-E though, old style box, does that make a difference?
Recently upgraded to Core 2 Duo E7300 from Pentium D 935, and saw nice improvements all round, especially power and cooling. Overclocking stable at 1.080vCore, insane. Currently 333x10 at 1.312vCore stable, on BIOS 1102.
What kind of voltages would be safe, considering I get about 28C idle, 35C load with this TRUE 120mm cooler?
http://www.carlhughescomputing.com/benchmarks/
for more info.
i got bios reset, and can't find my old settings, what is that site where all options in bios are explained for P5K-E?
i have no idea of the site you ask of but a little tip for everyone who does not live in their bios.
When you get your machine set up how you like it and all is great then go back into bios and use your digi-cam to take pics of all your settings
Then these issues will not arise in the future.
WZ
Hey all, I don't post here but lurk often. Great thread and I have a question.
I have a p5k-e/wifi and an e8400. This morning (after trying to read the whole thread after a 12 hour night shift) I read about the voltage bugs and all so I checked my PLL voltage and it's @ 1.76v when in auto or set at 1.5v. I'm running bios 1004 and was wondering if any of the later bios fixed the problem.
I have set my CPU PLL to 1.6 as suggested and it dropped to 1.65v.
Thanks, Baz
AFAIK it affects all bios up to and including 1006 and later. From reading this thread it seems to be hit and miss which boards have it, but all the p5k's seem to have it.
I noticed a weird stuttering in the BIOS after updating to 1102, it only seemed to happen when my USB hub was connected, so I turned it off and it seemed to not lag after that.. any ideas what could cause this, i do have USB legacy support disabled.
Not sure about the stuttering but I lose 1.4v Northbridge volts with bios 1102, and back on 0602 it works fine again.
I get absolutely no boot, ever. if I set 1.4v.
I think i killed my mobo....
i try to turn it on there's no POST no nothing...
the screen doesnt even getting on...
it's just black all the fans are on for about 5 seconds and then it's shuts down and turn it self on again over over over...until i pull the plug...
any ides?
Well i RMA'ed my board...the bios went AWOL and the mobo was busted.
Edit :
So i got the new mobo back. same REV as the old one.
any way i got with Bios 906
is 1102 worth changing to?
Are there any differents 1013 and 1102 ? Which one is reach better fsb ?
I tried the pencil mod, and I never seemed to get a result from it... I'm positive I penciled in the right one, I did it pretty dark after increasing the darkness a few times.
P5K-E WiFi is my favorite mobo, I'll never forget it :p::cool:
But the socket pins are s:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:d, I don't know what happened :(:(:shrug:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...0_4395copy.jpg
This photo is not very good.. Now it's worse, much worse :(
:banana::banana::banana::banana: dude, that's mighty sucky!!!
No idea how it happened?
No idea man :shrug:
New photos :(
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...C/100_5221.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...C/100_5223.jpg
Did you do this?
No man:confused::(
Took the CPU out and it was like that? That's proper messed up! :(
No no.. I put the mobo into the box, but I forgot to place the plastic cap (the one which is for security). I am an a:hump::hump:hole, I know :confused::(
:p:
I'll be getting this board hopefully this week; on it's way from Canada:) Nice to see a place to learn the ins and outs of it as I go!
Hello.
Does anyone now what could be the problem. I flashed my P5K-E with the 0602 bios and now the motherboard powers on, and that is all, the fans are spining, but no boot, i cant get into bios, nothing.
What can i do? It worked well until i flashed it with the 0602 bios, i did it becouse i hoped for a better OC, and now nothing.
any idea's?
Thanks.
Which CPU do you use?
E8500, do you thin that it dosen't support it?
Exactly :yepp:. You should find older CPU and use it to flash BIOS back to newer version.
you are right. I inserted in a Pentium 4 CPU and in works now. So i guess back to a newer version of bios. Thanks a lot, mate. :toast:
It turns out that with decent ram this P5K-E really shines. Currently Priming @ 485MHz FSB with my Quad and loving it.
Should be able to push for 500MHz+ for at least benching! Only thing over stock is MX2 on the Northbrige instead of the Asus goop.
Need at least 12xx bios for 45nm and for the absolute latest for the E0 45nm.
Hello many computer guru,
I am purchasing a 1.5TB HDD Seagate, and I am not sure if this mobo supports it. Does anyone know?
Also, this is OT, but I would set this additional drive as a slave? (compared to the 500GB i already have installed).
Thanks.
Well I got my board and am having trouble getting stable over 3.8. Does anyone have an e8400 that would be willing to share some stable settings they here? I know mileage vaires, but I'm still kinda new to OCing and would like some starting points.