it was confirmed by Plester a few posts up and by BarboneNet many pages back in this thread.
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1013 bios also cured the x2 pci-e syndrome on my mobo, even though it is not 100% cured. But i also suspect that this syndrome come from the quad core that is very burdening on mobo and it needs more voltage than 1.7v on NB. Well overall pretty happy since i can run 6GB RAM now with all slots occupied.
on my p5k-e wifi with 1012 bios i measured Vpll:
and at 1.5V set in bios, i get 1.56V measured :up:
Could anyone confirm if the P5K-E can boot perfectly without a graphic card inserted?
Thanks to the person doing the trouble of a double reboot :)
Hi Guys, I have a friend who gets his P5k-e wifi next week and I have a couple of questions for the guys running them. Firstly is the best bios, still as per the front page "0602" for a Q6600? He is looking for somewhere around 3.6ghz if he is lucky or are the later 1012-1013 a better bet? Secondly on the upper mosfets which have a copper sink on my P5K-Premium, are the mounting holes there for adding sinks or water blocks? It is quite hard to tell from the pic's I have seen.Many thanks in advance guys.
I wonder why they completely removed bios 1004 and 1006 from the bios section on the Asus site. That's kinda weird considering all the older bios is still listed...
Could the people that have confirmed the voltage bug also tell us which revision of the board they have? I ask because the person that had 1.56v vpll when setting it to 1.5v in bios had the newer 1.02g revision board.
I have rev. 1.02g and my PLL was set in BIOS to 1.50v, however when tested
with a DMM the reading showed 1.86v:shocked:, yes very shocking!
This is on BIOS 1013, and I dont know if this was occuring on other bios revisions.
I currently have it set to 1.60v in bios which gives me 1.66v when read with
my DMM, so at this point 1.66v is the lowest PLL voltage the board will
supply to my CPU.:down:
I'm pretty new to overclocking so I have a possibly silly question. my rig:
E6300
p5k-e 1.02g 1012 bios
ocz reaper 6400
The only things I really mess with when overclocking are vcore, vNB, and vmem. Question is, my cpu/board seems to have a sweetspot of 3ghz with only 1.23v ( I think this is good) but for instance 3.15ghz requires 1.28v ( load voltage). Is this a significant jump? Can it be that such a high vcore is required to mask the instabilities arising from the other screwy voltages as posted above? Or does it not work that way? BTW, all other voltages etc. are set to auto except the spread spectrums and NB is at 1.4. Anything other than 1.4 causes pci-express to go to x1. I've also disable dram static control and transaction booster, relaxed to 3rd level.
Xwards, your measurement is absolutely correct but you may still have the volt-bug :) Here's why:
Barbonenet had mentioned earlier that setting Vpll, Vtt/Vfsb, and Vmch to their lowest level is equivalent to setting them to Auto. What was not mentioned was that the Auto settings are FSB dependent, meaning the voltage levels are mapped to certain FSB frequencies.
Here's what I have discovered with my trusty DMM:
Vpll set to 1.5v or Auto
FSB-----Vpll Measured
333-----1.550
367-----1.654
400-----1.757
434-----1.861:eek:
Vtt/Vfsb set to 1.10 or Auto
FSB-----Vtt/Vfsb Measured
333-----1.111
423-----1.204
459-----1.293
495-----1.387
*Note: Vtt/Vfsb measurements for non-45nm chip may be higher.
Vmch set to 1.25 or Auto
FSB-----Vmch Measured
333-----1.261
351-----1.412
400-----1.564
These measurements were taken from my Rev 1.02g board with 1013 bios and 3110 Wolfdale. I suspect this volt-bug is present on all board revisions and bios versions, but please perform your own measurements and share your results.
Hope this is useful information to those perplexed by the strange behavior of these voltage adjustments.
Eeww... So from what I am reading, with the voltages I have had set, I might be cooking things.. o.O
Can someone help me, Is there any VNB voltmod for this board?
syl: you are right, at 420FSB with Vpll set to 1.5v or Auto i get 1.87V :shocked: so thats not good :down:
freaky that the voltages ramp with fsb - this seems less a 'bug' than a dirty trick on asus' part.
If you haven't found it by now...try here.
@CrazyNutz: To add to your conspiracy theory, have you ever wonder why there are only voltage sensors for Vcore and the 3 main rails on this board? Is Asus simply being cheap or...? ;)
Is it worth flashing from 1004 to 1013?
Well I have no bugs that I am aware of, everything "seems" to be ok.
Are there any performance reasons to flash to 1013? Any new options?
Hi everybody!
I've just got a P5k-E 4 days ago. This is the first time i use a mobo of ASUS. I have some questions :D
First, My E8200 was stable@ 3.8Ghz with 1.375Vcore( BIOS) 1.360(CPU-Z) on mobo P35-DS3P. Now I'm using P5K-E Wifi ( bios 1013). Everything is the same, but it is not stable. The bios 1013 is good to OC huh? Do I need to change the NB Voltage? SB Voltage? CPU PLL Voltage?....etc..
Thank you
Try:
1.55v NB
1.20v SB
1.20v FSB Term
1.60v PLL
Loadline Calibration enabled
CPU Spredspectrum off
PCIe Spredspectrum off
1013 works great for overclocking wolfdales, you should also check your
ram timings, and voltage to make shure its not that.
Also be aware that these (most) wolfdales require a small bump in vcore (.025 - .050mv) to regain initial stability after a break-in period, or after they burn-in so to speak.
What is the lowest bios that can boot up into bios with a wolfdale?
I wanted to share some of my voltage measurements on my P5K-E
Rev. 1.00G w/ bios version 0503
All results tested @ 400FSB
-------------------------------------------
vmch @ 1.25v = 1.55v
vmch @ 1.4v = 1.422v
PLL @ 1.5v = 1.57v
vsb @ 1.05v = 1.075v
VTT (vFSB) @ 1.2 = 1.55v
VTT (vFSB) @ 1.3v = 1.338v
--------------------------------------------
It seems like my PLL voltages differ from the findings on newer revision boards, as I can set it at 1.5 and get pretty close to that even at 400FSB.
I'm a little annoyed that my board has been over volting the Northbridge and vFSB settings by so much, all the while I'm thinking they are at their lowest settings. Good find about these voltages guys!
Does anybody know what some average temps for AUXTIN; this value can be obtained by running CPUID Hardware Monitor. I am getting some really high temps and I don't know what this temperature belongs to.
Decided to try for a higher 24/7 o/c and tested up to 3800mhz so far. This config is 1 hour OCCT Ram Test stable:
I already posted a bit of this in the Q6600 thread but wanted to share my bios settings:
L723A
http://i28.tinypic.com/34dfkzr.jpg
Edited: After 15+hours running Boinc I finally received 2 BSOD's within 4hours of eachother and after testing so far am stable with changes marked above with *Code:CPU Ratio: ........................ 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: ........ 333
FSB Frequency: .................... 422
PCIE Frequency: ................... 100
Dram Frequency: ................... DDR2-845mhz
DRAM Command Rate: ................ 2N
Timing Information: ............... 4-4-4-15-3-52-6-3-3
DRAM Static Read Control: ......... Auto
Transaction Booster: .............. Enabled
Boost Level:.................. 3
CPU Voltage: ...................... 1.5375v *1.55v
CPU PLL Voltage: .................. 1.60v
FSB Termination Voltage: .......... 1.30v
DRAM Voltage: ..................... 1.90v
North Bridge Voltage: ............. 1.40v
South Bridge Voltage: ............. Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage: ...... 0.70v
Load Line Calibration: ............ Disabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: ........ 0.61x *0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference: ......... Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: .............. Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: ............. Disabled
Question regarding running 4Gb on this board vs overclock.
With 2Gb (2 x 1Gb) I could Orthos all day at 3.2Ghz (400 x 8) at 1.5v, but with 4Gb (2 x 2Gb) the best I can do is 3Ghz ( 333 x 9 ).
Any idea why this is and how I can fix it?
ta
Paul
If you can post your bios settings for your 400 FSB config it would help, you gave to little info to try and help you atm.
Ok a little update before I give more info.
The 3GHz clock, 1.4v, 333x9 was Orthos priority 8 small FFT stable for 18 or so hours. But when I ran the blend test it crashed after 9 hours, so now I'm trying to get the 4Gb (2 x 2Gb sticks) stable at 1066 5-5-5-15 2T.
Bios is pretty much all an auto except memory timings as I have to set Tref to 60 manually. CPU volts is 1.425 which gives me 1.408v in Windows. I've raised the NB voltage to 1.55v and testing blend again on priority 10 (3 hours in). B ut pretty much all the other options, as I say, are on auto as I have no idea what they do lol.
Cheers
Paul
I just tried the vdroop pencil mod and my Vcc actually decreased for some reason, I have triple checked the resistor and used a 2B pencil. Has this happened to anyone else?
I have softer pencils if that would help. I will remove the lead, after I figure out how to, for now.
Hey lads, im having random reeboots and bsods with this board...thought i had dusted an e8200 as it went unstable on me but now this e8400 is getting the same issues...i havnt been above 1.375 vcore so im sure that degredation is not an issue.... can anyone post there stable overclocks for this boarrd with a complete run down on bios settings....the chip boots at 4ghz but wont stay stable...
also im running 2 x 1gb of 1066 ballistix, any issues with this ram?
(p.s i have the 1.86v pll issue now set to 1.6)
cheers for the help lads...
Gordy!:up:
lol....double post there sry!!!:rofl:
Can you explain me what is GTL CPU Voltage Reference guys??
thanks!
Anyone using Q9450 with this motherboard? I'm getting both this motherboard & Q9450 by tomorrow from 'egg. Wondering if anyone can share some BIOS Settings with me for basic OC'ing of Q9450 on this board. Also, will this board recognize my Q9450 out-of-box?
Thanks!
Hey CrazuNutz,
How's it going? I need your help.
Can you point me to a template of the full bios 1013? I need to support a friend over the phone who's OCing this board with a e8400. I can manage walking him through everything I just need to be able to see the list of available settings, how they're organized and labeled.
Our goal is 4ghz with least Vcore possible. I would like to explore 4ghz at 8x, 8.5x and 9x.
Are there CPU and NB GTL settings available in this bios and if so, what is the range? How low can they be set?
Any insight or links to good settings would be appreciated. I've read up on the mystery voltages being applied at auto or min settings - scary!
Thanks.
Thank you so much about your advice CrazyNutz. But can you explain this clearer
"Also be aware that these (most) wolfdales require a small bump in vcore (.025 - .050mv) to regain initial stability after a break-in period, or after they burn-in so to speak"
You mean after I get my system stable. I have to bump a little vcore for stability?
If you have a wolfdale it is very likely so. After a few weeks, you'll notice
prime stability failing. Then you just bump the vcore +.025 - +.050mv
and you should regain prime stability, and don't worry you should not have to
bump it anymore after.
MRCAPE: check your PM
Thanks CrazyNutz, you da man. I'll let you know what we can get on his setup.
The link for 0603 bios is down, anyone know where to get it?
also, if what I'm seeing is true then there never was an 0603 bios for the p5k-e and you're supposed to use the deluxe version's bios. How do you flash to that because it will give you id mismatch errors and whatnot. At least that is what I'm getting using asus update.
u are very kind Nutz. thx again
Hey guys, mind my newbie question as I have searched and google'd with no real solution to my problem.
I have the p5k-e/wifi
e8400
4gb
8800gt
vista x64 w/ sp1
The problem I have is the wifi connection.
I seem to get a dropped connection everytime I continuously download for more than a couple of hours.
This usually happens a lot more while torrent'ing.
When I try to reconnect back to my wireless router, the network availability screen shows NO networks available.
The solution? -- I had to restart my computer for the wifi to finally show the 4-5 available networks in the area, including my home network. I'm positive it's not my wrt54gl router as the solution was to restart the computer.
I have the latest wifi drivers from windows update / asus website drivers match. Also, the asus ap solo application that came with the cd is not installed as it caused more confusion.
Is the wifi not able to withstand long periods of downloads?
Is the usb wifi adapter flaky?
Or am I better off with a PCI network card?
I've only had this computer for less than a month, so maybe a bad adapter with the board?
Thanks guys.
Hmm, I dont use the onboard wifi with this mobo, so I'm not sure about
the flakiness of it, however I have had problems with wifi in general particularly when it comes to reliably transferring large files, and/or when
downloading files that would take a considerable amount of time.
There is a lot of interference when it comes to radio waves esp. the 2.4ghz
spectrum, this can cause overloads in the receivers, etc.. Maybe even caused
by a microwave oven near by. :D
I use the wifi on this board and I do have some problems with it disconnecting and reconnecting randomly. My laptop wifi has no problem. It could be due to a lot of interference in this apartment, as there are 8 WiFi signals here. I am probably going to switch back to the ethernet connection soon as soon as I go out and buy a longer cable.
Crappy wifi?
I have the same problem, constant connection drops. The only way to get connection back is to deactivate and reavtivate the wireless card. Happens every 5 or 6 hours.
BTW: p5k-e, q6600, 4gb, vista x64 no sp1
Hi, i recently bought the P5K-E Wifi, and 2*2 Gb G.skill DDR2 1066, and im having problems trying to boot in dual channel.
I manually seted the RAMs on DDR800, and played a little with some options in bios like the transaction booster, and vdimm, but it wont boot while trying to use dual channel (slots 1 and 3), while it works fine on slots 1 and 2, but that means no dual channel :(
I read something here, about the SPD configuration and than that might be the problem, the last mems that i tweaked where DDR1 :( and im sort of clueless here, anyone knows something about this problem and/or how making changes on the spd might help me?
I recently checked up on the asus forums and apparently there are others who have similar/exact problem.
Nothing wrong with the board itself, but the wifi adapter seems really unstable. Too late for regrets now as I was hoping the wifi was worth the extra dollars.
Get in the BIOS and manually set:
timings: 5-5-5-15
vdimm: whatever the manufacture suggest prolly 2.0-2.1v
NB Voltage: 1.55
This should get you going in dual-chan mode, also you might try slots 2 & 4.
Oh and for now disable Trans-Booster, and Static Read until you get it
working, then you can start to tweak it for performance.
As for the SPD that may help, But you'll have to narrow the problem down
b4 you even think about fixing it there.
I fixed my OCZ modules by hacking the SPD. The problem I was experiencing was that the p5k-e would undervolt my mem at 800mhz, so I edited the
SPD on my modules to make them appear as 666mhz, so when the mobo read the SPD it would run them at 666mhz @ 1.8v, and then I just go and set
them to 800mhz @ 2.1v manually.
I tryed all that, and again on the 2 and 4 slots, but it wont boot :(
Im using latest bios.
guys can you tell me what me bios setting have to be for +500 fsb , i am currently on 450 on stock on an 8200 , but i want to reach 500 fsb. The cpu is tested at 4 and 4.5 so its not the cpu thats keeping me back
edit : another question , i changed my gfx to an 9600 GT and cpuz reports pci express speed at 4x while the max is 16x. Its in the blue slot so it should be 16x right ? How can i change this
Hey! I'm back again with a question about "transaction booster". what is the best settings for this one? I'm running my cruciall ballistix @ 950 with Transaction Booster is "Disable" anh Relax Level is "3"
Transaction Booster is related to memory performance(PL in MemSet). Best is to leave it on auto, or try Enabled with Level 0 or 1. Note that for higher mem frequency or/and tighter timings you may not be able to maintain the same Level for TB enabled.
Well, to find your optimum stability, you would generally start with TB Disabled Lv3 with DRAM Static Read Control Disabled since that gives the loosest performance level. You will then slowly tweak the settings by raising the TB level until you find your stable setting. Everyone's setting will be different from one another due to different PC configurations.
HI guys I need help with this configuration:
1. Mobo Asus PK5-E WIFI
2. Memory 4GB (2 x 2gb) Gskill F2-6400CL4D - 4GBPK DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 2.0 - 2.1 v
3. Video Asus 7900 GT
4. 850 Watts Powercooler PSU
I dont want to do OC , mainly because I have some unstability problems in the Non OC config, and I want to solve problem first.
The problem is I have some memory "read" , windows errors, in Win XP, mainly using Firefox , and also get some beeps from the mobo (system dont hangup on those beeps) . Games runs well.
Can someone plz help me to configure this rig right?
I run cpu-z and here are my settings, are there fine?, any suggestions?
Beeps? In Windows or on BIOS initialization?
I'd start by running Memtest to check your RAM.
I'm thinking getting this board,
but I'm afraid of the V-drop
does it means I set the cpu V to 1.5. but it will be 1.5 at boot up, and will lower to like 1.45 when in system?
is this crucial?
what clock generator does this board have?
I need your help with this settings:
Asus p5k-e rev 1.0
E8400 Wolfdale
2 x 2 gb, Geil DDR 800, 1.9 - 2.5 v
evga 8800 gt 512
Can anyone please states the BIOS settings for complete stability (non OC)?
I have random crashes in games.
Txs a lot
What are the best BIOS for a Q6600 where stability is most important, and overclocking is currently not a priority?
Hello guys and gals. Getting this board soon, wanna know what ram runs well with this if i plan to run 4gbs and overclock an E8400. All on 64bit Premium Vista. And any suggestions for an air aftermarket cooler which is really effective and fits well on this board? In case you hadnt guessed, I'm a total noob to pc setups and would really appreciate good advice for the components to add to this board, thanks.
@LifeOnMars: Check my signature.
Just adding reply to have it in my list. Thanks for great thread.
Mine Vpll is on AUTO. So, I guess I'm burning it with 1.86V. :hrhr: :cord:
VNB is on 1.4V or 1.45V (don't remember now, it is one value below 1.55V) and VFSB is on 1.4V.
Well, it seems it's working with 1.6V for PLL. :yepp:
Gonna test it more...
Is there a consensus for which is the best bios to use with 45nm chips? I just bought one today with an e7200.
You can use the latest. :up:
BTW, I think I need 1.7V for PLL. :shakes:
I installed this mobo in my case (Coolermaster cm690) late last year and forgot to attach the rear IO panel. I'm reorganizing my cabling/layout so I've decided to attach it now but it doesn't seem to be that easy as there are no screw holes.
Does anyone have a pic of their attached panel and/or a simple explanation for how this is attached to a case and motherboard?
Thank you
You mean IO shield? Just put it in case. It fits without screws.
Thank you, Cwelle. So given that this doesn't need screws, I have the following questions:
-Does this snap into the case or is it held against the case by the motherboard?
-Am I supposed to bend back all the silver tabs that seem to surround each opening on the shield?
It snaps into the case.
Don't bend silver tabs. They should touch connector's casing. Just make sure that they don't go into connector (LAN, USB ...).
Hello folks...
Im been happyly, living with my Board....until i read this, from another member:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=951
Is this true? Can i "Kill" a 45nn processor? Is Asus giving more, that the real voltage?
Im especial concern with the PLL voltage....
Any considerations?
Tks,
Anyone having problems with the last two bios'? When I install either of them I can't boot the pc when I have any usb devices plugged into the back of the mobo. I unplug them and its fine.
It was getting stuck at the Initializing USB Devices bit at first then I tried to reflash a couple more times as thats what I had to do to get 0906 to work for my E8400.
Cheers
Great!:down: So I'm not the only one then. 0906 seem s to not let me overclock very well and had read others doing much better with the later bios versions.
Edit : I have just been scouring the AsuX forums, plenty of comrades with the excact same problem. The only way I can use my existing setup with the latter bios' is to have my keyboard(G15-blue lights), which is the culprit, hooked up to a front USB port.
Edit two : I had my G15, along with my mouse attached to my 2407's usb hubs. I found it to boot as per my first edit, but then I thought to connect it direct to the rear usb on the mobo and well it boots.:party:
Can someone confirm, or not, that puting the PLL, with the first value, in Bios, in fact, is much higher?
I have all values, except Vcore and Ram voltage, at the minimum possible....
Or isn`t it?:shrug:
Next problem is the cold boot issues I have with this new bios. Even at only 3420mhz, Orthos stable for ever and a day if I turn the pc off and then restart it she won't boot. It just hangs with nothing on the screen. I have to hit the reset a few times then I will boot saying my overclocking has fail hit F1 bla bla bla.
I must be missing something for it to cause this but what?