Hey did any body here did some Volts reading with a multimeter so far? I mean when u put a curten vcore is it more or less then what u really get? And what vcore is safe on "air" max to let your cpu last for like 3 years?
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Hey did any body here did some Volts reading with a multimeter so far? I mean when u put a curten vcore is it more or less then what u really get? And what vcore is safe on "air" max to let your cpu last for like 3 years?
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Originally Posted by Helevitia
well...that narrows it down to the motherboard, memory or video card...i don't think it is the VC...most likely it is your memory followed by the board....i doubt it is your PSU unless thermaltake is making flaky 1200W supplies.:)
Do you know any body close by that has another stick of different ram you could borrow? I had the exact same thing and that is how I got mine to finally post. I know it sounds strange but it worked more than once.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Helevitia
Edit: Chapter 3, Page 1 of the manual says to hold down the delete button at power on. Have you tried that?
Problem found! It's the SATA ports. When I first took it to mu buddies house, we decided to plug it in at his house before trying any swap outs. It booted! I was thinking WTF? That was with his power cord and monitor. So I bring it out to his living room, use my power cord and monitor and no boot again :confused: I'm thinking I'm going crazy!
So I literally start pulling things out, cables, connectors, memory, video card. Trying anything, wiggling stuff around, etc...
Finally, after fiddling with it for what seemed like forever, I started getting intermittent results with unplugging and plugging in sata cables, wiggling sata ports around, trying new sata cables. Eventually, I got it to boot again, but it BSOD'd once and then when it came back up the RAID BIOS said it couldn't see one of my hard drives.
So, to make a long story short, this is consistent with all of the other people having SATA problems including myself initially when I thought I had a bad SATA DVD Burner. I bet that drive actually works. Thanks for all the help and advice.
you mean it was a sata cable causing this problem...RIGHT!?
I wish! Then I wouldn't have to RMA the board :( The nail in the coffin was the last time I booted, it told me the hard drive on port 1 had an error. I don't have any drives on port 1!!! My sata drives are currently on port 2 & 5. Here is the really crazy part, it booted into Vista! :rolleyes:
I stand corrected. The BIOS reads the drives starting with 0 and the Asus manual starts with 1. So it was pointing to my 2nd SATA connector(port 1). I swapped the cable, still got the error, changed ports, still got the error. Now it looks like one of my Raptors are bad. I'm still untrusting of the sata ports though, so I will RMA both the mobo and the raptor. *sigh*
I just got round to setting up my P5K DLX a couple of days ago with 2 x 80GB Hitachi's in RAID0. All went fine I flashed to the BETA 0501 BIOS & started playing around with it. I was using 2GB of OCZ PC2-8500 SLI in the yellow slots & having a play with 1T using SetFSB to ramp up the FSB to see where 1T would start getting unstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helevitia
I crashed windows messing about like this which must have corrupted windows a bit as I had to do a repair to get back to the desktop. I then played around for a day trying different things until I crashed it again trying to do high CL4 but this time the P5K went a bit funny telling me one of my drives was not part of the array & the stripe that was there was bad which could be a similar thing to what you have just had.
Last night I flashed back to 0311 after reading this whole thread & :worship: EVA's imemory thread where he tested some OCZ Flex because it seamed to me most people were having the best luck with 0311.
I re-made my striped array, loaded windows XP up again & shifted my RAM over to the black slots & almost immediately run my E6600 up to 455fsb x 8 with 1.5v & 2.25v on the DIMMS all the rest was left on auto & after 3 hours of messing around with RAM like I was when it died the last time I honestly think IMHO 0311 is way more stable than 0501 as although I have had plenty of reboots BSOD's hangs etc with 0311 I have not once had to use the clear CMOS jumper or pop the battery like I had to do several times with 0501.
It is still early days for my P5K ATM but from what I have seen of it on 0311 so far I like it a lot & its quick as f**k
Have you tries flashing to 0311, rebuilding your array & loading windows up again now you can get it to post/boot or are you still trying to get it to boot your old array ?
Regards
Craig.
I have a weird problem with my P5K Deluxe. I noticed that when I was looking at Everest, the Mobo temp was no longer listed. So I launched PC Probe II and it listed my Mobo as 125 C!! I know this board is supposed to run hot, but not that hot! All of my other components are at normal idle temperatures. I have 4 fans blowing on the mobo at the moment. Cool air is being exhausted. This has got to be wrong, right?
chiefhog I got the same "bug", @ asus prob, reboot it and it is like 29-30 degreece. But it happend more often it disappear @ everest when u got asus probe aswell on.
Btw Q: How much do I need to bump the FSBv and NBv for 450fsb? I got atm stabled 8x425fsb 3.4ghz @ 1.3FSBv and NBv @1.4v, I might want to try 3.6ghz so, or should I leave it on AUTO, if I leave it on auto wont it jumps to high? or the mobo would always select the lowest possible in some situation, espacially when your priming when things getting stressed.
I have problems with usb ports if they are all loaded and if a hub is plugged in it is either real slow to get past the usb section when posting or just stall s there till I unplug the hub. I really am getting quite sick of it. Seems that as much as I like asus, there is always some little thing that never gets fixed.
asus does have its problems with those usb hubs...abit's IP35 Pro works beautifully with the USB ports.:D
The only problems I have had with this board are the slow usb initialization at post (much worse that the P5B) and occaisional boot with no video even though I see the blue light (vid signal good) on the monitor.
Suddenly I cannot alter the FSB! Well, it shows my alterations, but whatever changes i make are not carried out. It shows the fsb in bios, but does not alter the cpu speed.
It changes the memory speed though.
Just tried setting fsb to 800. posts with no problems. showed ram as 1600 on post. shows cpu as 2.4. :(
Using setFSB in windows also does not make any difference at all.
Everything else seems to work fine. It's just i can not overclock at all.
Previously i have had 465 with my e6600 giving me 4188.
I have had a reinstall of windows and flashed to 0501.
Now i've flashed back to 0404 and 0311 all make no difference.
Is my mobo fried in some way? Both the NB & SB are water cooled.
since your bios is an AMI bios, the flasher should be flashing the "boot block"...are you confirming that when you flash it from DOS...OR...are you flashing it within the bios?...if you are doing the latter, i would recommend that you use the DOS AMI flasher to flash the "entire" bios area, which includes the boot block.
My suggestion would be to clear the CMOS leaving the battery out for an extended period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogg
When I have what I think is a BIOS related problem I first try to clear the CMOS leaving the battery in and when that doesn't work then I pull the battery and go to bed!
I'm flashing it using ezflash. As the bios is 2mb i can't fit it on a floppy to flash within dos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
edit: Sorted. thanks very much. Did a full clear cmos (why didn't i think of it earlier ! had only tried load defaults in bios) and it's looking fine now. :up:
I set all the timeouts on drive detection and ahci to 0, and set all values to ignored on hardware monitor, as well as I turn off all the onboard devices, and only leave the Jmicron for IDE capabilities
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Originally Posted by bogg
glad you sorted it out!:)
you could use an USB thumb drive to store the bios and flasher for future flashes if there is any doubt about EZflash doing its job.
Just bought another P5K Deluxe and have no problems booting this with my Mushkin Xp2 8500 from the start. WTF? Other P5K deluxe board will not post with this stuff unless the ram voltage is set to at least 2.0v. So maybe there is an issue with some of these boards not posting with 8500 ram. My new board is actually an older S/N but same revision.:confused:
it might have been a defective board...who knows; a bad regulator or DDR Vtt voltage could have been messed up which would affect your memory by needing higher Vdimm to make it run.
sounds like you had a bad board before maybe the dimm slots were bad ?Quote:
Originally Posted by crossg
I am I the only one who finds it incredible that so many computer components are "bad"? What other industry would tolerate such a high rate of component failure? Even if you discount the numerous "user error" cases, it's just incredible how many reports of bad ram, bad MB, bad PS, bad cpu , on and on. . . . .
You have obviously never owned a first generation Ford Focus!Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
eva2000 - would you recommend that I buy a P5KD or a P5KP?
I will be OCing 6850 and some PC800 D9's.
a question: is someone can tell me if 12V reported by SpeedFan or Everest is correct on the P5K?
SpeedFan reports my 12V a little low around 11.5V whereas Asus PC Probe II reports it just over 12V.
OK, I have the same problem with a friend computer; thank.
I think i have a driver problem :confused: , my systems is
P5KD
E6600
2x1 Gb OCZ reaper pc9200
8800gts 640mb
creative xfi extreme music
It will run orthos over night 8hrs + no problem but if i leave it on say downloading ( i.e idleing) when i get up vista has crashed, i have to turn the psu off/on reboot and start window normally. Im running the latest 8 series drivers form the Nvidia web site (158.24) :shrug: also when i uninstall the driver i can not get into control panel untill i reinstall it :confused:
Has anyone had this problem ? i would be greatful for some help
Well, I'm about halfway through the posts in this thread and I wanted to post what I'm currently stress testing, so maybe there'd be some feedback by the time I get to the last page. :)
You can see my whole setup in my sig, but the basics include an E6420/Ballistix 8500 setup and Ultra 120 Extreme for cooling.
I set all my case fans to medium with their switches and fan controller (Antec Tri-power x2 in front and x1 on side, 200mm on top, 2x Scythe S-Flex "F" push/pull on U120X, and SilenX (90CFM) on rear exhaust). Ambient temps between 25-28 c.
After spending the last few days testing up from 375 FSB (x8), I had some trouble last night getting 3.6 (8x450) to be stable for me in Orthos for more than a minute at my targeted 1.400-1.450 Vcore while staying around 60c.
Today, I moved the Vcore up to 1.4750 and it went through a 30 minute test of OCCT maxing at 59c on both cores. I left Orthos running at lunch and when I left it was stable at 20 minutes with both cores maxing at 60c.
Here are my bios settings (0501) - copying template from others' earlier posts with older BIOS's - I may have missed a setting for 0501:
I had trouble finding settings at lower Vcores that would run Orthos stable. I'm not sure 1.475 is a good Vcore to run 24/7, though I could live with the 60c temps at full load if that is, indeed, as hot as it will get. My goal is to get the base clock at a stable point at at least 3.6, then tweak my RAM settings separately.Quote:
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 MHz
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900 (1:1)
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: AUTO
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Voltage: 1.475v
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
PECI: Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Enabled
Are there any settings that could still use some tweaking or are incorrectly set? Any recommended changes? Would flashing back to an earlier BIOS help achieve the same clock at lower Vcore, or should I stick with 0501?
Thanks in advance for any feedback!
It is under reporting by about .4v or so on mine based on a MM test.Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Passing 8hrs orthos isn't the ultimate answer. I have had 2 systems that did similar things as yours. My first one was a DFI RD600 mobo with a Xeon3060 and crucial 10th anniversary memory, BFG 7950Gt OC gpu, and a Corsair HX620 PSU, all with the latest drives and windows updates. It passed orthos for 9hrs and all 3D tests/benchmarks that were available. CPU was running at 3.7GHz with memory at 1:1 on the 9x multi. I was quite happy with it until I loaded up UT2004 and began playing. 10 minutes in and CRASH...the system locked up. Had to up the vcore a little and all was well. Similarly, the system in my sig did the same thing. Running along fine at 3.72GHz, passed all previously mentioned benchmarks and I started to do some video editing and again, CRASH...had to up the vocre a little again. But the good news was, both times a small bump in vcore made everything alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokerjo
a 24/7 system is whatever you do where it does not reboot, freeze or progs close out on their own....that's my definition;)
I have a similar setup with an E6600 @ 450X8 some OCZ PC2-8500 SLI's & a 120 Extreme & it runs sweet 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach3K
The only thing apart from the ram timings that jump off the page for me is the "Dram Static Read Control" gives me about 1000mb/s more bandwidth in everest when set to Auto or Enabled rather than Disabled.
After reading this whole post & Eva's website I flashed back from 0501 to 0311 & I find it more stable & more forgiving when you try crazy stuff.
Regards
Craig.
Thanks for the feedback, Craig. I think I'll flash back to 311 tonight and continue the tweaking.
That's assuming I can peel myself away from NCCA Football '08 long enough to actually tweak anything. :D
Hey is a CMOS clear( just the pins or full?) required, after each BIOS flash?
I never clear cmos. Some bios clear user data some leave data as it was.
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Originally Posted by mc2k
you should do the jumper at least for about 10-15 seconds...some also do the battery...if you do not do the jumper, you take a chance of having old bios code still in memory...after clearing the CMOS jumper, enter the bios and then select Bios defaults to ensure the new code is entered into the CMOS memory...from there, change your settings to your desire.
agreed....... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
btw, to anyone who's looking to save a few pennies on power and a touch more security...
my top OC (e6420 @ 1.425vCORE) is 3.2gHz @ 400FSB with all the CPU settings in BIOS set to disabled as most of us have them, but the same OC is stable with the CPU TM enabled as well as Execute bit enabled. so while doing nothing my CPU drops to 2.4gHz with no adverse effects.
Thanks for the reply :) but as i suspected vcore wasnt the issue, i tried an old 6800gs i had lying around and left machine idling all night and low and behold it was fine, i noticed i had not changed the power settings after a fresh install of vista, i changed the setting to high performance put my 8800gts back in and left to idle over night and all was ok in the morning. I presumme that because the 8800 gts needs more power that it didnt like the power setting ? and when i tried to wake the pc the card was casuing the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
Im sure nobody will make this mistake but just in case i thought i post my findings :D
Hello Felix.Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Unfortunately I just saw your question.
Here is mine in P5K Deluxe :
bios : 12.320 V
Speed Fan : 11.67 V
Everest : 9.12 V !!!
Best regards from Athens !
Yeh im going to give a cursory -1 to the 404 Bios.. I'll drop to 311 and report back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
501 Users report if you're happy.... Subtract Raid issues if you would please.
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Originally Posted by Battle_Rattle
Happy with 501 here :)
501 is fine with my raid 0
But the board still doesn't like my pc 8500 ram.
NO matter how I flash it, I still get a no video option on random start ups and reboots.
They better fix it or I will be going away from asus for awhile.
Also here but pay attention not to enable the Robson option in the raid BIOS screen or you will get a lot of wrong read and write on file systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazog
No problems with 501 apart from high core temperatures (everest, 40 c idle @(7x470)@ 1.3000V) with quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle_Rattle
Also np with cellshock pc8500 2x1Gb
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
I have Bios 501 and i have the Robson option enabled in the bios.I am using 2 Samsung Spinpoint LJ501 500GB hard disk drives in raid 0 and 1 with Intel Matrix and i don't have any problem until now :)
my P5K-D died on me.. i told myself to stay away from asus gave them another chance and look wut happens :shakes: extremely happy with my DQ6 P35 :clap: no flaky sata ports raid is fantastic. i always bought gigabyte or abit in the past and i think i will stay there lol
FWIW, I think this P5K let me find the max my E6600 likes without venturing into the 'way too much vcore' and associated thermal disaster/Orthos crash territory. Definately better than my BadAxe2 which would get goofy trying to push more than 3.7Ghz out of my CPU.
Some setup #'s...
Vcore Bios 1.6
Vcore idle 1.57
Vcore load 1.55
Vdimm 2.0 (ballistix ddr-1000 version)
NB voltage 1.25
FSB voltage 1.2
SB voltage Auto
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...2hrsOrthos.jpg
Hey all,
Quick question about BIOS problems I might have:
I got the P5K Deluxe WiFi edition motherboard within a few
days of when it came on the market, so I'm pretty sure it's
flashed from the factory with their very first released BIOS.
I haven't used the board yet since I'm waiting for a S775
CPU -- the Q6600 G0 stepping which has just come out
today.
I'd also like to get 2GBy dual rank x 4 sticks (8GBy)
Micron D9HNL STT PC-5300/667 DDR2 working on it.
What problems am I likely to have with the default (old)
BIOS? Is there any issue with default / buggy
overvolting / overclocking that could harm the CPU or RAM?
Would it likely fail to recognize / boot the G0 step Q6600?
Would I be much better off if I get a lower end
older model CPU like some Pentium D and boot it to
update the BIOS before I risk the Q6600-G0? I don't
have such an alternate processor, but if it's going to fail
to properly boot / volt / clock the Q6600 I guess I'd have
to get the BIOS updated.
Does the board run well with 8GBy in 4 sticks according to
peoples' experiences?
Other major BIOS problems?
What's the best BIOS version to flash to?
BETA? Release?
Thanks in advance!
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
You'll notice that your Q6600 G0 at this link shows that the P5K Deluxe needs the 0404 BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...l=P5K%20Deluxe
With luck in about 50 hours I'll know if the BIOS that ships with my new P5K Deluxe will work with a new E6750 G0. I'm only hoping to get in the BIOS to flash. If I can't do that then I'll use a CPU that this board supports. So if you can wait a couple of days then I'll let you know what happened.
Thanks for the info.
I want to run 8G of that memory simply because it's
what I've got 12GB of at a good price, not the fastest,
but useful for the computing I'll be doing on my next
2 PCs, and it overclocks reliably to PC-6400+ speeds reportedly, so as long as it works nicely with 4 sticks on
the M/B I'll be happy.
Thanks for the CPU support table link and the
404 BIOS suggestion for G0 Q6600's. Last time I had
checked (weeks ago) the CPU and MEMORY compatibility
tables were basically empty of most useful information, and
I hadn't given them the credit to assume they'd have
updated the info for G0 yet.
Yes, please, I'd be interested to find out what happens with
your G0 CPU and BIOS boot/upgrade experience.
Please let us know what BIOS rev. you end up going
from and to and whether there are any boot / volt /
frequency / etc. problems before or after.
Do these ASUS BIOSes do automatic "on by default"
over volting / overclocking? I seem to remember my
A8N32-SLI Deluxe did exactly that, and had lots of
chronic problems over and undervolting the CPU depending
on one's settings, and from what I've heard it's not an
uncommon sort of problem with ASUS boards.
Hence I'm even more than "normally" concerned about
what it'd do with an "unrecognized" CPU stepping
and very old BIOS version at boot.
I don't see any labels to indicate what the factory
flashed BIOS version is, so my only real options are to
try it with the G0 Q6600 or buy a Pentium D just to
verify/reflash the BIOS.
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Originally Posted by msgclb
No RAID issues--currently running RAID0Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle_Rattle
I found the 501 seemed to let me get a cooler run on the chipset when Folding.
Really great thread--lot's of great info on settings. Good to hear from Old Guy about how much fun it is gettiing the heatpipes off and clean :p
I got the P5K from excaliberpc.com the first day it was listed in stock and was the first on OverClock.net to test it out and run it in with an E6300--easy clocker..best OCer since the P4P800SE IMO.
Sold that and got the P5K3 Deluxe--but was not happy with DDR3 avaliable at the moment sent it back and got the P5K Deluxe.
The P5K vanilla is every bit as strong as the deluxe.
This board drops my load temps a good bit and absolutely destroyed bandwidth benches on my G Skill DDR2.
Seems to OC the RAM better as well--1171 on stock voltage...
Never seen aboard that OCs like this with so many settings left at their default or auto values.
Board of the quarter--maybe the year.
I just changed my chip to a Quad. I can get 3.2Ghz on the multi bump alone.
I got my new P5K Deluxe and so far I've only tested it outside my case. I used the Intel HSF with my E6750 G0. The CPU was recognized on boot and the default BIOS was 0202.Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
I used my USB flash drive to flash the 0311 BIOS using EZ Flash 2 from the BIOS. This is the version listed on the CPU support page so I decided to start with it. After flashing the BIOS I restarted, set my default values and rebooted.
With all that success I decided to take a break but as soon as I turned my back the system shutdown on it's own. I restarted and found the CPU temperature was in the 70c range. The HSF felt secure but I shutdown, reseated the HSF, restarted and when I checked the CPU temperature it was 27c.
I stayed in the BIOS for an extended period of time without any other problems. I was able to boot to Windows but won't be doing any testing until I get it installed in my case. I won't be using this HSF.
I can't be sure that a Q6600 G0 will be recognized as my E6750 was but I'd sure give it a try.
I don't have an answer for the voltage questions.
This is true for this wireless chipset in general...I had a few cheap usb wifi keys that used the same chipset and they all had those issues...it can't take long loads...I usually can't download something over 1gb without some sort of time out rror.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoob
msgclb,
Thanks for the update!
I'm glad to hear your new system is overall working well
for you and that you were able to upgrade your BIOS
without difficulty.
That's a bit scary about the 70C CPU temperature, I hope
they enable thermal throttling / shutdown by default
in the BIOS so it couldn't possibly get much higher than
that if it happens to someone else and they haven't
yet been able to change the BIOS / BIOS settings.
I'm anxiously awating a CPU so I can put this all together!
Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
I got cpu error with my 6850 with shipping bios untill I flashed to 0311 now all is well.
Were you able to flash using the 6850 that gave you theQuote:
Originally Posted by palese
error, or did you have to change the CPU to some other
model the old BIOS supported in order to flash?
What's the stepping of your 6850?
What was the old BIOS version that gave the error?
Thanks!
I can't believe the trouble I'm having installing my P5K Deluxe in my case. The trouble started when my ice tea maker quit. That was followed with the following error message when I got everything hooked up in my case:
Chassis Intruded!
Fatal Error...System Halted.
I don't use the chassis intrusion option so the blue jumper was on the default pins. Before this error popped up I noticed that the BIOS recognized the CPU, memory, mouse, DVD drive and hard drive. I shutdown and checked the jumper but it seemed ok. I reseated and restarted several times with the same error.
My ice tea maker is still broken but I got rid of my fatal error. (I hope forever) I decided I would clear the CMOS but I would do it in steps by first pulling the power plug and make my way up to the full process. To my amazement after pulling the power plug my fatal error was gone.
This is the first time that I've seen this error. Could it be that once this happens you need to remove the power from the system before the error will clear?
I can't wait to see what is going to happen tomorrow!
Semi off trend of whats been being discussed recently....however, any word on a new BIOS?
0501 is still a beta BIOS correct?
Not sure what my board came with but I upgraded it to 0404 so that it could recognize by E6850. From reading this thread it appears 0311 is a better BIOS? Would that recognize the E6850? I guess I can try it. I was just wondering if some one here is running the E6850/P5K combo.
Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by mat8861
I just got the lot yesterday as replacement for my E6600 and P5W DH. My initial views after some quick settings are that it will go 3.8 fairly easily on air with low volts but I think I need a better cooler to get higher . Temps went up quite rapidly when I tried higher FSB and volts. Still I am impressed with both the board ,CPU and especiaally the memory. These Ballistix are now so cheap and will clock like nothing else I have had before. They are good for 3,3,3,9 @DDR800 and will go upto 1200Mhz. For those running Vista x64 this is a link to a great guide which will let you tune it http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=24912. These tools are also useful TweakUAC and EASYBCD v1.6. TweakUAC lets you switch off or supress UAC - EAsy BCD has numerous tools and allow configuration of multi boot with other operating systems. I found that just installing Vista x64 in a seperate partition to Winxp caused HD data corruption - seemingly this is a know problem and EASY BCD is the solution. Here is a link to a complete multiboot install guide. http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista Acronis disk manager is another tool that will also shrink the Winxp partition to allow creation of another on the boot drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigcat
Can anyone tell me exactly what the CPU PLL voltage setting in BIOS is for - I think it is linked to the SB and I have found that I could only boot at my current o/c settings with it set to 1.7.
the bios that ships with the p5k will run the chip but you need a bios update to get it to be full 1333 fsb
Is this P5K board hotter than usual? Mine is running low 40s idle and 60 under load. While my processor is actually cooler than expected (~25 idle).
Should I worry about the 60C loaded? Would this be an airflow issue? What's a normal max temp for the MB?
http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4162 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigcat
Just want to share my OC results: After some tweaking, I finally was able to hit 400FSB at 1.4875 Vcore. My temps under Orthos load can spike up to 62C, but generally remain below 60. It is the middle of summer and I'm located in the hottest room in the house, so I'm pleased with the temps for now. I know 400FSB wont turn any heads here, but it's the highest I've ever gone. Thank you to all of the great members here who were of great help to me. I don't post much, so you wouldn't even know!
Anyone know if there is a known problem on this board on the CPU temperature sensor monitoring. My Speedfan CPU reading has been suddenly jumping from about 38c idle up into the 80-90's whilst still showing core0 and core1 temps at about 22c.? This is whilst not running anything in particular. Yes - I have checked the HSF and it fine.
Also appreciate if anyone can tell me exactly what the CPU PLL voltage setting in BIOS is for.
Great overclock buddy 3.6GHz with the P5K will give you a stomping quick 24/7 rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefhog
I have a similar setup but I dropped the multiplier to 8 & bumped the fsb to 450 for a nice boost in bandwidth & a drop in latency.
My temps with a Thermalright extreme 120 are about the same with 1.5v
Heres my rig specs & some 3D benchies for comparison.
Regards
Craig.
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ASUS P5K DELUXE (BIOS 0311)
INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6600 CONROE 2.4GHZ 4M L2 CACHE
OCZ PC2-8500 SLI 2GB (2 x 1GB) PN:OCZN1066SR2GK
INNO3D 8800GTS 320MB OC 595/950 (158.22 DRIVERS)
2 X HITACH 80GB SATA 2 DRIVES RAID0 XP DEFAULT CLUSTER SIZE & 16MB STRIPE
SONY DUAL LAYER DVD RW (DRU-820A)
EZCOOL 600W PSU
Orthos (SP2004) + 3dMark2001SE + 3x CPU-ZCode:Jumper Free Configuration:
Ai Overclocking............................ - [Manual]
CPU Ratio Control.......................... - [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting......................... - [8]
FSB Frequency.............................. - [450]
PCIE Frequency............................. - [105]
DRAM Frequency............................. - [DDR2-1125MHZ]
DRAM Command Rate.......................... - [2T]
DRAM Timing Control........................ - [Manual]
cas# Latency............................... - [5 DRAM Clocks]
RAS# To cas# Delay......................... - [5 DRAM Clocks]
RAS# Precharge............................. - [4 DRAM Clocks]
RAS# Active To Precharge................... - [9 DRAM Clocks]
TWR........................................ - [3 DRAM Clocks]
TRFC....................................... - [30 DRAM Clocks]
TWTR....................................... - [3 DRAM Clocks]
TRRD....................................... - [3 DRAM Clocks]
TRTP....................................... - [3 DRAM Clocks]
DRAM Static Read Control................... - [Auto]
Transaction Booster........................ - [Auto]
Clock Over Charging Mode................... - [Auto]
CPU Spread Specrum......................... - [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum....................... - [Disabled]
CPU Voltage................................ - [1.5000v]
CPU Voltage Reference...................... - [Auto]
CPU Voltage Damper......................... - [Enabled]
CPU PLL Voltage............................ - [Auto]
DRAM Voltage............................... - [2.35v]
FSB Termination Voltage.................... - [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage....................... - [1.40v]
North Bridge Voltage Reference............. - [Auto]
South Bridge Voltage....................... - [Auto]
CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Control.......................... - [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting......................... - [8]
C1E Support................................ - [Enabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit...................... - [Disabled]
Vanderpool Technology...................... - [Enabled]
CPU TM Function............................ - [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit........................ - [Enabled]
PECI....................................... - [Disabled]
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...253DMARK01.jpg
3dMark2003:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...253DMARK03.jpg
3dMark2005:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...253DMARK05.jpg
3dMark2006:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...253DMARK06.jpg
Aquamark 3:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m.../Aquamark3.jpg
Short Description:
450 x 8 = 3.6GHZ @ 1.5000v
5-5-4-9 2T @ 2.35V DDR1125
C-N what's your superPI (1M and 32M) times? here's mine at 3.6Ghz with my QX6700 under xp.
9x401 bios 0501
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x...1_bios0501.jpg
8x451 bios 0311
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x...i_xp_8x451.jpg
Get a second opinion! Try one or more other apps to see if you get the same results. That will tell you if SpeedFan has gone nuts or you need to check that HSF again.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
PLL - Phased-Locked LoopQuote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
This is my guess. Somewhere on that motherboard is a circuit that is trying to maintain a constant CPU voltage and this option allows us to adjust the voltage to that circuit. Any second opinions on that?Quote:
the phase-locked loop block is a feedback control system that automatically adjusts the phase of a locally generated signal to match the phase of an input signal. PLLs operate by producing an oscillator frequency to match the frequency of an input signal. In the locked condition, a slight change in the input signal first appears as a change in phase between the input signal and the oscillator frequency. This phase shift then acts as an error signal to change the frequency of the local PLL oscillator to match the input signal.
I would agree depending on the oc to get the voltage stable I have to use 1.6 or 1.7 pll voltage. I think the circuit is the regs under the top heatsink because when I use 1.7 pll voltage it heats up like crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
here's my 3dmark06 scores with my Qx6700 under vista x64
Qx6700 at 3.6Ghz G80 at stock 576/900
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x...1_bios0501.jpg
Qx6700 at 3.6Ghz G80 at 650/1Ghz
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x...1_bios0501.jpg
I just raised my pll voltage to 1.7 and vcore to 1.6 trying to get a stable 500fsb x7 ddr2-1000. Temperatures are not my problem if you believe the readings I'm getting. There must be a refrigerator in my case.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by safan80
My last idle cpu temperature was 16c, load 34c using AI Suite.
use core temp, everest, or speedfan to get your cpu core temps. take a look at the 9x401 superpi picture I posted above you'll see the difference in temp readings.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
My core temps are fine - they show 54c on both cores when running orthos according to speedfan and coretemp whcih is what I would expect but the cpu reading shows 109c - WTF! I was idling with speedfan showing CPU 38c then it changed to 90c after a hour or so with nothing running and core temps still at 22c!. Where is the CPU sensor on the board - if I shutdown and reboot straight away BIOS hardware monitor shows 39c. I am tempted to ignore it cos it doesnt make any sense !.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
You'll notice that in the following image all the cpu temperatures are 18c and the core temps are in the ~23-24c range. This is my current idle temperature.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
Attachment 62243
This was taken about 1 minute before Windows crashed. The core temp is 41c and the max load CPU temperature that I saw was 34c. It's these new g0 stepping CPUs.
Attachment 62244
I'll now see if I have better luck with a vcore of 1.6v and cpu pll of 1.7v.
what is the room ambient temperature - cos if your not using chilled cooling how can the CPU temp be right?
Opps - looked at the wrong spec - apologies.
Ambient room temperature is ~24-25c.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1...1280ef6.th.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2...1280ey1.th.jpg
The case is closed.
I see that your using a G0 chip. you should try to get 3.8Ghz stable before 4.0Ghz.
4.0Ghz I wish! I asked myself where does he get that but soon realized that both Core Temp and Orthos are having problems with my overclocked settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
CPU-Z has the correct settings.
500FSB x7 3500MHz DDR2-1000
But your correct, I need to try a lower stable setting as I'm not having any success with this one.
1M 14.110s http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m.../SuperPI1M.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by safan80
32M 13m.57s.781 http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...SuperPI32M.jpg
I haven't done a mega amount of testing & it may have been due to a lack of playing with settings but I found 0501 slightly slower at 32m than 0311.
I also run my PI tests independently of each other because I found my 1m time went up a little with a second Super PI box open waiting to run 32m.
Craig.
Hello.
Can anyone with this mb try to put 2 pci-e GFX cards into it?
I just want more than 2 displays connected.
Well I thought I would flash the BIOS to 0501 to see if that resolved the strange CPU temp readings I was getting with speedfan and everest and I now have a pretty colourful motherboard to hang on my wall!. I stupidly used Asus update as I was in a hurry and it failed on BIOS verification stating try reflashing again. When I stupidly did - it erasd the EPROM and stopped. Never happened on the P5W DH but there you go. I should know better - I have read enough post about Asus update failing to flash correctly!.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
I will try an RMA but not hopeful. Still - I am back on my P5W which at least is show stable CPU temps of 30c @3.6 with 1.4v with coretemp at 23c.
You live and you learn - unfortiunately sometimes it costs!
believe you need to compensate around 11'c for your coretemp
People, it's not the Asus Update programQuote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
It is the P5K Deluxe which has major issues with Bios flashing. You are not the only one!
But don't worry, Asus has fixed the problem by releasing a new motherboard (P5K Premium) and screwing those who already own a P5K Deluxe :mad:
Thanks for that - if its a known problem with the P5K Dlx there may be a glimmer of hope on the RMA. It fills me with joy to know there is already an Asus solution and only another £160. I can barely wait till Monday to get one - lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by orion23
There should be no problem with RMA.
I have not heard of anyone having update problems other than with with ASUS update - particularly with Vista.
Bios updates are chancy from within the OS and not just with Asus. It is always best to update at the Dos level.
The ASUS CPU SUPPORT list for the P5k DELUXE
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us
shows that the Q6600 Stepping B3 is supported in BIOS 202,
and that the Q6600 Stepping G0 is supported in BIOS 0404.
Has anyone with an BIOS older than 0404 gotten a
G0 stepping Q6600 and been able to boot / use the BIOS /
flash the BIOS to a newer version that claims to support
the CPU stepping?
What errors / problems did you encounter in using a
G0 Q6600 with BIOS before 0404? What version did you
try?
I'm getting a G0 Q6600 and already have the Motherboard,
with an old BIOS (presumably), I have no other CPU
for this board, and don't know for sure if I'll be OK
plugging the G0 into the board which probably has
0202 or some other old version of BIOS.
I would NOT want it to fail to flash, or to
overvolt / underdvolt / overclock or otherwise use bad
settings for the G0 due to it not recognizing it properly.
Anyone using an X3210 on this board, BTW?
I don't see the chip listed in the ASUS CPU support
page, but as far as I've heard it's basically the same
as a Q6600 which is supported.
Has to be supported... same architecture, realistically just a different selection & labelling process. Same deal as E6600 & X3060. I'm actually hunting for an X3220 GO for mine (P5K-Premium just got delivered)Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
the superpis I ran are independant as well I just wait for the 1M to finish before I start the 32M one. if you notice the 8x451 run is on the 0311 bios the 9x401 is on the 0501 bios. I had trouble getting 9x401 with 0311 so that's why I used 0501.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I flash update the p5k deluxe in the bios its self or I hit alt+F2 at bios to go into the util. never flash your motherboard bios under windows. you could always get the ASUS P5K PREMIUM it's the same price as the deluxe at newegg.com. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=&srchInDesc=Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
here's a good OC with a G0 and bios 0404
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=63
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
I use it fine with the P5K-D
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
I use the x3210 fine with the P5K-D
I ran my 3220 in my deluxe for a while, did not get a chance to push the OC as I was testing other things but it worked great.
I've always used the Alt F2 from a usb key and never had a flash problem that way.
[QUOTE=orion23;2338078]It is the P5K Deluxe which has major issues with Bios flashing.QUOTE]
Does this hold true for E-Z flash in bios too? I have flashed both of my boards using this process and have had no problems.
I have never had any fsb problems with mine on either 0311 or 0501 I love this board on air it will run almost anything you can dial in.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
My board & E6600 will run 460 - 475 x8 on minimum Board voltages with 0311 & 0501 it may do more but I haven’t tried.
http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...0MHz%20DDR1155
Regards
Craig.
Yes - you are right on Asus update. I was using Vista X64 when I had the failed update. And you are also right on the RMA - after discussing the problem with the vendor they gave me an RMA for a full refund. As they did that I felt so good that I have gone and ordered the P5K Premium to find out if it is even better than the deluxe. The write ups say it runs cooler and should enable even better o/c's. We shall see - just as long as I dont use Asus update -lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by genec57