Keep playing with VTT/Vdimm settings or maybe use another dram divider. Does the bios show all 6 GB?
Not using Vista 32bit, are you? ;)
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Keep playing with VTT/Vdimm settings or maybe use another dram divider. Does the bios show all 6 GB?
Not using Vista 32bit, are you? ;)
I think the bios shows all 4.. NOT sure where to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
and I'm also not sure what VTT/Vdimm is. voltages for ram? please help me, thanks. ( i know i sound like a complete idiot but this mobo is hard to work )
Simply check with cpuz if they works;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
Vtt is the qpi voltage. Vdimm is memory voltage, maybe you should set them in a better way ;)
No, VTT is the CPU's VTT voltage. Some mobo manufacturers just call it QPI voltage, but it is VTT, nothing else. DFI also calls it that in bios.
My current Memory voltage is 1.65v - What it says to set it as on the box =\Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
my rams are G.Skill Trident 3x2gb kit, DDR3 2000.. 9 9 9 24.
Thanks for all the help guys!
i7 processor is rated for 1066Mhz and 1333mhz DDR3 speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
Anything above that is NOT guaranteed, not even with memory that is rated DDR3-2000.
Anything above 1333mhz is acquired trough upping VTT and DRAM-voltages to a certain level. Each varying processor to processor.
problem: This means that NOT every processor is going to be able to run DDR3-2000 within "safe" voltages. But this is the overclockers trademark.
(BTW: Has anyone noticed that his 1.35VTT stuff is being so strictly followed, while we used to pump vCore and other "unsafe" volts trough our hardware like there was no tomorrow?)
Ah would you recommend me running the rams at 1600mhz instead, I finally got it to work at 2000mhz, but then again. i want my system to use all 6gb, not leave me with 2gb..Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
Current voltages 1.3125 cpu
1.710 Rams
145 v ( something else i cant remember, it had to do with cpu lol )
3.33ghz cpu
1994 ghz rams
Stupid tweaking. takes forever.. I just want my system to run its absolute best, is that so much.
Hey, tweaking is what overclocking is about! Just relax and try to push it further, it's not so bad after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
Or take a break and run it with safe settings for now. :up:
Lol every 5 minutes theres a replyQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Okay, I decided to ignore the Ram readings, 2gb vista reads, its vista's problem. I'm going to upgrade to win7 anyways.
I decided to leave my rams at 2000mhz, it's much faster like that anyways.
Stupid vista... ( i did update bios to latest version )
When the f does win7 come out.. I hate vista!! :mad:
1 more question : DDR2 memory on my old motherboard used voltages at 2.2V, why does ddr3 take less?
first spam for the past three yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
He doesn't seem to get it :shrug:
Vista sees only 2GB because your motherboard only offers 2GB.
Your board only offers 2GB becuz you're CPU's memory controller only sees 2GB.
Your CPU's memory controller only sees 2GB becuz you're running it too fast at too low volts.
Get it?
It's not Vista's fault.
It's just your CPU that can't run at the settings you want at the volts you're putting in it.
So basicly, it's your fault.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=223964Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
This thread might help you, check it out.
Thanks for making me feel like S***! I hate you!!! - But thanks I'll look into that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
Okay back to topic - I was running 3ghz with 1.29v.. Is that not enough?? :(
Since my memory is suppose to be 9 9 9 24, is it okay if it like make it lower if i make my rams run at 1333, or 1600 ?
- THIS IS NOT SPAM, THIS IS HELP FORUM IS IT NOT?! ( sorry )
Man, listen to me, isn't a vcore problem but a VTT problem, understood? simply increase it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
what is VTT?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razer(x)
What would it be called in the bios
Is it CPU or Memory volt?
VTT is called VTT in bios, for the last time. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
It defaults at 1,21V IIRC. Set that to 1,37-1,39V like I said 10 posts or so earlier.
It's a voltage concerning the area of the CPU where the L3 cache and IMC are located.
Nope, vtt is vtt :D it's called "CPU VTT Voltage" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
Uhmm.. um... err... ( Damn I'm a Tart ) ( pop tart that is )Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
I understood maybe 10% of what you wrote =\
In the bios i see many VTT's and its so complicated ! Im so sorry, don't beat me to death! ITS NOT MY FAULT IM NOT AS SMART AS YOU GUYS! STOP NO NO NOOOOOO!!! :shocked:
Guys, Its finally working, I did what the guy told me to do, but I also moved EVERY voltage up until the red area ( danger zone i guess ) and i boot up and guess what? YES! WORKS F YEEAH!
2000mhz 9 9 9 24 6gb total
WEEEE
WEEEEEEEEE
3.33ghz 1.298v
I LOVE YOU PEOPLe
oh btw
When I go into firefox it never remembers my passwords, i went into options and made sure NOTHING is wrong. firefox sucks.
Yeah every browser has it ups and downs, Firefox might be a bit faster, but Ie8 has become a very good browser IMO.
the 8 version is much improwed and are (for me) a fast and reliable browser, in win 7 it has or VERY little failed for me in fact, all plugins are working plug and play etc.
and no, you should not keep every voltage at the red zone..
you should do as the people tell you :) . ... do this instead, now lower the voltage one by one. to safe area , then when it fails you know what and when.
cpu voltage,dimm voltage and vtt are mostly those you want to change most and tune... and that frequency on the cpu, you should not have to raise volages so much...
put those on auto, and concern about the vtt instead, and keep 0.5 range for VTT and dimm voltage.
uhhh how high did you put it? 1.5-1.6? that's near the red zone and also a bit on the high side......
1.3-1.4 vvt is consinderd the "safe" side for 24/7 use.
So keep in mind that ur pushing it :P
good luck
vtt? as in the cpu voltage for overclocking? mine is at 1.29Quote:
Originally Posted by sjakie666
go 2 http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lanparty...n-guide-12855/ and read the whole thread :D.
Then you'll understand the basics of overclocking this board,memory and cpu. (thnx 2 eva2000)
1.29 isnt in the red zone, thought u said it was in the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensl2
Be careful pushing stuff in the red especially if you don't have good cooling
you really need to read up on this before you fry a $300 board or $300 CPU
I said I pushed everything up and stopped RIGHT before it's red, but of course i forgot to mention that cpu is the only thing i know how to OC xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Hey guys I found out how to Fix the problem, Everything you told me was 100% correct, but I also found out that when you enable "Boot with maximum memory" in msconfig, it screws everything up and only reads 2gb no matter what! :(
I was so mad at myself cuz i forgot i disabled it, and then I re enabled it and like everything totally messed up, i was like wtf what happen :mad:
NO WAY! :shocked:
Well, anyways. I found out what the problem was, and I also took some pics of my bios settings, lemme know if anythings wrong please =] - please pass this info on to other users. ( Boot with max memory also fk's up DDR2 modules - My Phenom II rig had the same issue ) :down:
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00028.jpg
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00029.jpg
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00030.jpg
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00031.jpg
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00032.jpg
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=DSC00035.jpg
Man your giving it WAY too much voltage for alot of things, and why are you messing with Windows settings memory settings you shouldn't ever need to touch that.
You need to start over, and slowly work your way up on the voltage. Easy way to do it is to knock down the multi a few times and keep the vcore, pll and everything to default. Then start raising your bclk slowly to keep your CPU out of the picture.
You're just messing with voltages you obviously don't know what you're doing and somethings going to end up dead.
Yeah, i agree with Peen. If you act like that you're gonna break something for sure. Read some guides :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Where are the multipliers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razer(x)
Im sorry for failing =[
Please tell me what i should do :(((( :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
@stevensl2
Put everything on default again and start over.
Find your stable vcore first, leaving the Dram @low speeds.
When you find the vcore your stable vcore (5 hours occt or something like that) then move on 2 the memory.
you must up your vvt SLOWLY till it becomes stable.(as i said normally u use vvt 1.3-1.4v for 24/7 but you MAY need higher vvt to stabelize @2000Mhz dram speeds)
Never use cpu pll above 1.8v because it will do nothing or near to nothing (in my exerience)
Your ioh/ich voltage and analog ioh is also to high. near stock should be enough when using 200blck
your ich 1.5v is also to high. i think you could leave it @ stock also.
The dram voltage you can set @ 1.665v if your mem modules are rated 2000mhz 1.65v
you can leave qpi frequency @ auto if your not going higher than 200 blck.
The most important thing off all is that U MUST Read alot to learn about the voltage settings and other settings so you know what you are doing. I gave you a link a few post before and i think it would be good for you to read the topic through. You'll learn alot. Also the first dfi x58 topic here on XS will be great. Maybe some other overclocking guides etc. etc.
Because if you use the voltages the wrong way you'll get instabillity.
hope this will help you!
You're welcome, also first post in this thread has alot of useful links to read up on too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sjakie666
hehehehe forgot about the first page here lol ;)
OMG THANKS!, You're right about the instability, I have crashed like 3 times In dawn of war 2, and I have had random freezes when uploading youtube videos and whatnot. Gets really annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by sjakie666
I have done as you said and everything works so far, however I don't run my system 24/7 and plus I have very good cooling.
When I try to adjust to Ram Mhz instead of giving me the exact numbers, it gives me like blck 1 , 2 ,3 and some other stuff like that, why do you get numbers and I get this BS xD ( but of course it shows after i press enter but at like un even numbers, Why isn't it simple like "1600, "1800" 1700" and why is it like numbers like 1923 2948 1038 and so on.
I know it's affected by my CPU multipliers but I dont wanna run at 3ghz! i want an uneven cpu mhz and like 1600 mhz for rams.
( its a psychological thing )
Thanks for any more input :) and i will continue messing around with the bios until everything is stable! :up:
same problem for me...:(
You cant get that, its a little bit like s775, but not :)
to get higher Ram speed, you have to get higher Bclk, you can if you dont want so high cpu klock, lower cpu multiple, put 200 bclk
and then get either 1600 at 8x, 2000 at 10x.
The uneaven ram speed do work ofc, just put like 150bclk, then use maybe 12x multiple.. and ofc if you put 154bclk, you will not get eaven ramspeed..Even bclk becomes even ramspeed, and uneaven will become uneaven.
just try, you dont have to save and exit just to see what the desired speed will be.
EDIT: saw that it looked little weird, but you get it dont ya?
i just keep playing with my settings, I am eventually going to get 4ghz on 1.25v i hope >=), and I'll try 1.65v 2000mhz on rams as well. I hope there is no more freezing after that.
Small tip for people clocking this hog.
On the latest Win7 Beta-Bios and an W3520/i7 920:
If you're going for high bclck with turbo on, put the non-turbo multiplier on 19.
This is greatly going to help your stability, since odd CPU multipliers are more stable than even ones. It helped me closer to stability at 200x21.
It was always stable as long as i put a big load on it, but when i stopped it always crashed going back to 200x20 when idleing. Now it goes to 200x19 and my idle crashes are gone.
BIOS settings:
EIST: Enabled
C-states: Disabled
Turbo/PPM: Enabled
Non Turbo Multi: 19x
@stevensl2 "I have done as you said and everything works so far, however I don't run my system 24/7 and plus I have very good cooling."
by 24/7 i mean daily use. it's verry important to find a fully stable cpu overclock before you go and try the ram out.
to get 1600mhz ram just set blck 200. turn of turbo mode and enable set current limit max. Also set de ram divider @8x and your uncore divider @16x.
AND set your cpu multier to 19x (forgot about that one)
your cpu is clocked @3800mhz this way and your ram is @1600mhz :D
you can set your ram timings @ 8-8-8-24 and 1.665V
set your VVT to 1.24 (should be enough maybe a little higher but not to much)
The good way of finding the vcore is:
set your Dram diver @ 6x and the uncore @12x so the memory wouldn't be a problem
use occt and set custom time @ 3 houres (should be enough for finding vcore)
if you found your Vcore set the Dram divider back @8x and the uncore divider @16x
When you've done this.
Run OCCT for aprox. 5 houres and hope you won't get any errors. If you do, maybe your Vcore is still a bit to low OR your VVT voltage needs to be a bit higher (max 1.32v should be enough) but i think 1.24v on the VVT should be enough to run 1600mhz. So when you get any errors first raise your vcore a bit.
good luck.
still i think you SHOULD read the threads here on XS or i4memory. Learning the settings yourself is better. Just take a day or 2 to read through guides and forums.
Ah okay, But when i run occt, it says it cant do the memory thing because i dont have cuda.. i have an 4870x2. right now its at 3.6ghz 1800mhz ram, everything looks pretty stable =\ I ran wPrime 1024, and it was perfect. oh and my cpu voltage is 1.225, my rams at 1.65v, and the VVT for cpu is 1.37 or something, thats as low as it would go without blue screen or restart.Quote:
Originally Posted by sjakie666
How do i get occt to work when i dont have cuda :( without the memory tested as well, its not very accurate )
RTL 53 for 2050 C7..
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ntitled-46.jpg
you can't run cpu:OCCT ??????
Ok. I wanna try the maximum cpu frequency, any advice to boot with high bclk?
For me bootup clock is set auto, maybe its just me, but works better that way..
but maybe set it to 190-200 if you are goin high like 230... better use SetFsb in windows, and notch by notch..
Any suggestion about the bios setting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
ohh.. could be night and day :)
For me and my cpu, higher IOH voltage is much more needed at high bclk than vtt... did not try to get it mega stable, but for 221 bclk i needed about 1.32vtt and IOH over 1.40...
analogue voltage should not exceed regular IOH voltage..
lets say, start at 210-220 bclk bios, try that at get that to load windows, use 21x multiple, and start higher at voltages than before..
i dont know how your cpu is doin... maybe you better try what it can do for bclk at first, so you know that, easer to take that first, keep usual 8x mem and 16x uncore(maybe lower), most stable and reliable setting..
then you know how much VTT is needed (more or less) then put in the cpu att full multiple and find out what it takes..
eva2000,i just want to thank you for compiling
all this wealth of information regarding this board.so here
it comes....THANK YOU.
i just got one and im enjoying all your threads,i should
get my cpu this week and i think ill be prepared for my
first go at i7.also when the p55's get released ill be
better prepared to have ,hopefully some success OCing
them.
I've been eye-balling this board for my x58 set-up.
From reading this thread, it looks like the most compatible ram is Corsair?
The GT's are the best from the looks of it.
How 'bout these? XMS3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145242
^^^ Get a Gigabyte UD5... the T3EH8 is a headache to be honest. Unless your one of those people who likes a challenge in every area, even area's where a challenge is just a waste of time. Sometimes this board makes me sit back and do this face (?_?).
LoL!Quote:
Originally Posted by batmang
just because you have to input most settings manually, where the Giga automagically disables/enables some things (which you might even want, like power saving functions!). Doesn't mean this board is a headache!
You just have to actually KNOW what the hell you're doing before you do something like enable/disable C1E or try to lock the multi to 21 :)
Noticed something strange about PWM temps btw:
Sometimes the more stable your CPU is at a certain frequency, the lower your PWM temps are.
I was running LinX yesterday and choosing a LOWER voltage actually meant HIGHER pwm temps.
I'm supposing that this is due to the processor asking for more, and the PWM trying to keep up... or it might be that some voltage settings are just a tad "harder" to pull of than others.
It seems that my board particularly likes 1.344v or 1.360v since sometimes it just keeps drooping to those 2 volts, even though i selected 2 settings higher than the last time it drooped to 1.36.
I'm very happy with this one, it has been running on DFI @1688HMZ 7-8-7-20 1.65v with great performance and stability for 24/7 use. I have had several benches/tests which you can find earlier in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
:ROTF: I know, hah! This board is a great board but lets be honest, it can be pretty frustrating getting the right settings the board likes. Because all boards like different voltages/settings, the T3EH8 can be a bit of a pain at times. Overall though, its a great board as long as you can be patient and utilize the features it has. I still can't get anything above 4.0 to be 100% stable but I know its possible, just haven't had enough tinkering time. I've stuck to 3.6 HT @ 1.16v for 24/7 use and 4.2-4.3GHz HT @ 1.3+v for suicide runs. I like my memory speeds at 3.6 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
no offenseQuote:
Originally Posted by batmang
but
if u say dfi x58 UT/DK is hard
then any 775 mobo must have been nerve recking for ya
asus REX,COmmando,M2f, DFI p35-x48, etc etc etc all must have just blown u away... literally. hospitalized i guess.
i7 x58's are like overclocking for noobie friendly.
it just cant get easier than this.
heck 50% overclock with minimal voltage changes.
this mobo is just so easy.. no skewing to worry about and all the dram skews are taken care off with the IMC and the way dfi implemented it via bootup clocks..
and this is the only mobo other than the under performed classified that
runs high percentage overclocks at almost stock voltages. aka no degrading issues like the famous gaygay mobos that in the end,.. ends up in a lot of ppl garbage bin after a year.
this is what happens when overclocking goes mainstream.
next ppl will be demanding intel/amd for overclocking headrooms.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
And most of the times. People jsut have to face the fact that they actually have a bad clocking i7, since most people seem to forget around here that NOT every i7 920 can actually get 4Ghz with turbo for 4.2.
Most(if not all if you only look @D0's) do 191x21. But after that it's hit and miss.
Thanks Sam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
I'll look them up.:up:
In this thread and/or pt. 1 too?
No offense taken. I'm not overwhelmed by this board or x58, I'm just having a hard time getting above 4.0 (stable), which isn't that uncommon with 39+ batches. I've been overclocking for a very long time, since AMD K6-II days. I never had a 775 setup so I have no clue how easy or hard it was with those boards. I was one of the AMD fans that went with the Spider platform, I had a Phenom 9600+ 2.3GHz and the MSI K9A2 790FX Platinum, what a huge mistake. Overclocking Phenom's (I & II) are much harder than i7, I agree i7's are cake to OC. I was able to get 3.8GHz out of my Phenom II 920 2.8GHz which was much higher than the average Phenom II OC. I'm just greedy with my i7 and want 4.2, but if I get that I'll want 4.3 or 4.4, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I need to learn to face this fact. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
Only this one, I just got these sticks. Here is some results with x8-RAM for 24/7 use:Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=776
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=787
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=798
And one with 10x-RAM just for fun, testing/benching :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=814
I found an interesting thing that when I manually set the various RAM subtimings and such my results within CPU Tweaker for channel A differ from that of channel B/C (B/C happen to be identical, but there is a large difference in whats actually set for channel A)
BIOS 7/24 - Will post some screens if I can figure it out, seems to be on tRTP and tWTP.
Exactly, this motherboard is the definition of "easy". Mine was just that, easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
You'll always want more but you probably won't notice the difference outside of benchmarks. Mine will do 4.2GHz with high vcore but I run it at 3.8GHz and get the same FPS but my room is 5° cooler, and that's about the only difference I've noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by batmang
Well I got more board back, it works. Prime it for 10min (still squeals like a pig!) to make sure its good then it locks up idle again! haha
Anyways, I got a new AMD rig to play with CPU+RAM+Mobo for 150. It's a sweet little comp overclocks easy doesn't do anything weird! might sell the i7 and just use this since, well it just freakin works!
Son of a @)#%@#
Well the board works after RMA, but now it F'ing drops .1v CPU under load....WTF is this??? Never again with DFI. Instant crash.
Good repair job idiots!!
Have you enabled VDROOP control in the BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Mine drops 0.032V (according to CPU-Z) with it enabled (from 1.408 to 1.376).
i don't think i have any complaint about this board but the high PWM temps.
tried adding fan but didn't seem to help much on this one,
my old board for some reason seems to have much better PWM temp.
4GHz overclock with pretty much all stock volts
true with 1x 2000 rpm fan, room temp at 27c.
BIOS set...
PPM function disabled (this also disabled Turbo Mode, EIST and CxE functions in bios), Vdroop control disabled
CPU VID Auto + 105.90%,
Vdimm 1.62,
IOH 1.10, CPU VTT 1.21, the rest are also at stock volts.
BIOS hardware monitor shows...
Vcore 1.18,
Vdimm 1.60,
IOH 1.10
CPU VTT 1.25
Everest hardware monitoring software...
Vcore at load 1.20, no load 1.18,
Vdimm 1.60,
IOH 1.10,
CPU VTT at load 1.232, no load 1.216
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/644...0827212114.png
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5...0827212549.png
Finally nailed 4Ghz + turbo and power savings.
needed to connect the floppy power connector just under the PWM's to prevent my system from crapping out under sustained loads. This also completely nullified my vDroop with vDroop control disabled. (checked with DMM, voltage is solid as diamond now)
Currently 6hours into OCCT and already passed 10 LinX's and a HyperPI 32M
Ambients are 28°c, Radiator/Case temps are mostly around 30°c. Unnaturally sunny for this time of year and my room has constant sunlight, so its really cooking in here.
Core temps go up to 77°C under LinX with a Swiftech GTZ, bah... I wasn't very lucky with my Xeon (3851A), it's hot and it needs a lot of vCore. Decent VTT and memcontroller though.
PWM temps go up to 78°C under LinX load with my NB wc'ed by a EK-MAX-Acetal. (not too happy bout those, but meh, rated up to 105 so anything under 90 that's stable is good for me :p)
=> hot pwm's are also due to the 2x8800GTX right below them. Their PCB's radiate heat like there is no tomorrow and the backplates are constantly @ 55°c with nvidia's new "DirectCompute" drivers... I don't know WHAT they're doing, but they're heating up my case significantly...
I'm thinking about swapping out the GTZ for a Heatkiller LC. It's way less restrictive and also offers better temps, that might bring down my pwm temps too then due to better flow trough my NB-block... But meh, we'll seeCode:[CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Enabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
DRAM Timing
Channel Interleave Setting: AUTO
Rank Interleave Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 17XXM (8800GTX in SLI so over 768x2)
DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 7
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 21
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Ch1 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch2 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch3 Round trip latency: AUTO
tREFI: AUTO
Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Disable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.38125V
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.680v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Reduce 15%
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.32V
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Add 30%
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.21V
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.15v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal
Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled
PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Enabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x
* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 101 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 8x
UnCore Frequency: 16x
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
I recently had trouble with 3D06 and a 920 clocked at 191x21 with turbo enabled. With bios 0619, there is no real control over turbo mode, and instead of going only 1 step up it does 2 when only 1-2 cores are loaded --> jump to 4,2Ghz and freeze during Deep Freeze. Really annoying issue, had to disable the turbo and run it at 200x20 which needs slightly more Vcore but doesn't freeze (better for the customer lol).
No problems with turbo here, x21 is working just fine after BIOS 07/24 :)
Moving up to @4.3GHZ(205x21) 1.26v
12GB RAM, 6GB OCZ 1333MHZ CL7 + 6GB Corsair 1600MHz CL7, running @1266MHZ 6-7-6-22 1.65v
VVT=1.21v, NB Core=1.12v (both BIOS set)
Still going strong with x18 Uncore :)
w3520 @4.3GHZ(205x21) 1.26v, 12GB 1266MHZ 6-7-6-22 1.65v, HyperPi32M Stable
http://img.techpowerup.org/090828/Capture004965.jpg
The read-bandwidth has dropped by about 3k to 17k-read and 44ns latency (vs 20k-read and 41ns of 6GB Corsair) but I'm still having a hard to track the effect of "slow RAM" on my real-life applications. I guess both of them are overkill anyways.
Just started experimenting with and 12GB, and I may go back to 6GB. Just made a 2.5GB RAMdisk and I have to see is I can put it in good use.
Even tho I haven't tested the total stability of @4.3GHZ for 24/7 yet, but it is running so smooth that I may get used to it :).
Yeah this board works fine for me too, the only problem is my cpu :)
I have been getting some freeze 3-5 minutes into prime-smalFFT @4.3(21x205) 1.26v, too. As far as i can tell, the Uncore and RAM are running stable (any RAM/QPI stress tests i have tried is passing). I'm still testing and can't conclude yet, but it seams to be some issue with stability of the Core with x21 multi. I have tried to add more Vcore, but it doesn't seams to be helping (at least withing those limits of Vcore I expected it to stabilize).Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
I vent back to @4.2GHZ(210x20) 1.24v and Prime small-FFT is running without any problem for 20 min now, and still is running in the background ... Anybody else having a similar experience?
EDIT:
have been testing more ... but it's geeing late. Going back to x20 for now, until I find more about the x21 stability.
Wow doing very nicely there mate :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
You got a nice chip there Sam.
I need 1.344 almost 1.36 to get 4.2ghz Stable. But I did manage to get my OCZ Gold (12GB) stable at 1600mhz 8-8-8-24. 7-24 bios is the only one that can do it with 4000mhz Uncore. Needed 1.69vdimm along with 1.36vtt to get the 12gb stable at 1600mhz. So I figured might as well stick it to 4000mhz Uncore too since it needs about that vtt anyways.
I'm having some fun playing with my new Gigabyte + Athlon II X2 cheap HTPC rig for now! Awesome little AMD
EDIT: Btw have you guys heard of this W3550? Same price as 3540
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117218
Thanks man .. trying :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Yes it is getting better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Got the Core stable too, at least pass the "kill zone". I found that my new "fancy" gadget (Rivatuner Sidebar Gadget 2.0) was making the desktop unstable and crashing it after 2-3 minute into prime95.
But it didn't solve all the problems, i was still getting crash in the "usuall kill zone" and I had too to add "one notch" to VVT, NB, and 2 to Vcore. It ended up with VVT=1.23v and NB Core=1.15v (both BIOS set).
The Vcore=1.28v(Load) was a bit higher than my expectations but it didn't affect the Core-temp as much as I was fearing :).
12MB RAM + "1 notch extra VVT" was enough to push the System-temp to 61'C, but this is just 1'C in the "red" and I will see if I can increase the RPM on NB-fan without too much noise.
W3520 @4.3GHZ(205x21) 1.28v 1 hour Prime stable
http://img.techpowerup.org/090829/Capture021.jpg
room temp aprox 33-35c
PWM temp at almost 100c
do you think i can pass Prime95 for maybe 3 hours?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9...0829144028.png
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8...0829141414.png
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1...0829140423.png
Different issue mate. As long as you're fully loaded, the mult won't jump to 22x.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
I could pass 24h of prime or LinX with my 191x21 setting, but even 1 run of 3D06 froze the system (because 3D06 sucks so bad that it only uses 1-2 CPU cores in all GFX tests)
I wanted to ask this question before, but forgot all about it. Do people have those Floppy Power connectors connected on their boards? Do other Motherboards have these or is this a DFI thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
Mostly for Heavy SLI/Crossfire configs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
If you notice your 12V lane is very low under high loads, it might be best to connect them.
Most motherboard manufacturers have/had something like this... Sometimes it's a molex, sometimes it's a floppy power connector. DFI and MSI are only ones I know of that have this on their X58's though
Would I need to connect these if I'm going to run two GTX 275s in SLI?Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
I guess that 12v line can be useful for cards with big demand for volt, specially those dual_GPU cards. My GTX 295 has been running fine without it too, but I have connected it anyways, jut to stay on the safe side.
This looks good, but keeping that PWM-temp at almost 100'C for 3 houser sounds a bit risky to me. I personally don't like to prime over 1 hour at these speeds, even with lower PWM-temp, anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by pangingIII
probably bad temp sensor on the PWM i'll have to find a way to check it out
anyways, the above voltage settings wouldn't do what i wanted it to do,
just got a reboot when i went out and came back.
then i try again with more CPU Core and VTT voltages...
BIOS set...
Vcore Droop Control： Disabled,
CPU VID: AUTO,
CPU VID Special Add: 106.85%,
Vdimm: 1.62,
IOH: 1.15,
CPU VTT: 1.29,
CPU PLL Voltage：1.80 (stock),
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage：1.11 (stock),
IOH Analog Voltage：1.10 (stock),
ICH 1.5V Voltage：1.5 (stock),
ICH 1.05V Voltage：1.05 (stock),
BIOS hardware monitor shows...
Vcore 1.29,
Vdimm 1.60,
IOH 1.13,
CPU VTT 1.33.
Everest hardware monitoring software...
Vcore at load 1.312, no load 0.976~1.104 (CPU multiplier drops)
Vdimm 1.60,
IOH 1.136,
CPU VTT at load 1.328, no load 1.296.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...0829204354.png
i just tried enabling the Vcore Droop Control for the first time since i got this board.
BIOS set...
Vcore Droop Control： Enabled,
CPU VID: 1.375,
CPU VID Special Add: 100.70%,
Vdimm: 1.65,
IOH: 1.15,
CPU VTT: 1.28,
BIOS hardware monitor...
Vcore 1.36,
Vdimm 1.63,
IOH 1.13,
CPU VTT 1.32.
Everest software...
Vcore at load 1.328, no load 1.36 (CPU multiplier drops)
Vdimm 1.63,
IOH 1.136,
CPU VTT at load 1.296, no load 1.28.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2...0830034903.png
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7...0830034915.png
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2...0830032551.png
Looking good with 12 RAM stability @4.4GHZ :up:
I have always been using Vcore Droop, and that's what Intel recommends too.
hmmm works for 5 days straight no crashing now it's crashing again at idle ever 5min to 2hrs. Just freezing up even at different speeds with C1E off?? I haven't touched a damn thing either because it was finally not crashing...
Thinking my chip is maybe getting bad. I'm at 1.36v @ 4.2v and still crashes after a few hrs of prime and my load temps are only 70c. If I could RMA I would but I bought a retail off eBay and don't think I can. Frustrating as can be with all the random freezing/BSOD's
u need to eliminate this firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Peen
1. Ure own settings and reasoning for those settings
2. Cooling Limitation
3. PSU's limitation
4. then only hardware limitation.
reason for ure bsod's cause u have no empric reasoning on ure raise of component voltage.
whats ure bootup clock.. do u know whats the relevance of bootup clock and cmd vref voltage.. also do u know the relevance of vdimm to dqstb ref voltage and to dram speeds.also do u know whether its a dram chipset issue for dram limitation on the dfi.. aka elpida hyper vs bbse vs hcfo etc.
when do u raise the ioh analogue voltage?? and whats the reasoning of the ioh/ich voltage raise
ure thinking that raising voltage means stability.. for x58 and i7 and a digital pwm board like dfi it doesnt work like that .. ..
i have been watching ppl in lyn forums and the rest for dfi boards
always after more understanding on how the voltages work.. they end up with lowering voltages and having better stability. even on this thread.
y not stop posting empty spam reports.. and post after a week or two testing.
read praz settings.. and notice the difference in all his settings
read other ppl settings and do a comparison
read all eva's link.
understand thy board.
also prime95 25.9 x64 blend 5.4gb ..
theres a very unique way of understanding the cause of prime thread failures to the hardware component involved
based on the time of the failure.. the fft that failed etc..
understand this also ..
this is y in XS so many dont even post in the 8 hours prime stable thread. Linx for example is easy.
for x58's u cannot go further unless u have passed a 12 hours prime stable on different test enviroments
like in the case. cold boot, hot boot, wakeup boot etc.
again no offence but i think u better go back to square one instead of hitting 4.2ghz straight y not eliminate
any of ure so thought must be stable setting at lower speeds etc..tweak those first
and then work ure way up.
took a lot of ppl to get 2k c7 working like 2-3 months
and it was all down to setting the bootup bclk to 185. see u can miss some obvious things.
also give u another example of ppl and their wrong conclusions.
some ppl think 211x19 vs 200x20.. voltages for vcore and much less on the other..
after a lot of testing and reasoning on the voltages its not true..
this was the same thinking that happen on 775's when some said 400x10 vs 500x8 etc voltage.. it wasnt true then
for this board.. having the bsod " 2nd clock etc didnt receive signal etc etc" doesnt mean its vcore hint hint.
its just means some voltage that is proc relevant// aka vcore,vtt or dqstb is insufficient.
pwm temp is a very fine example to find which voltages is the cause of the failure
also dqstb and dram vref..
this are like skew settings . for voltages..
u do not raise all the channels/dimms equally.. test each stick. and single/dual/triple channel.
those who are familiar with 775's especially dfi x48 ddr3 and REX would be quite familiar to this tiresome way of fault finding
Sorry dude, they aren't empty "Spam" reports. I've been OC'ing for a very long time with lots of motherboards and rarely have any issues like this board. Most of voltages are stock and it has even crashed at stock settings. I've tried every single setting individually, all my ram with different timings etc, I'm familiar with what everything does.
This is just the first board I've had that won't crash while there is a load on it but does when sitting idle! It usually just freezes too no bsod. If it does BSOD, it's completely random. Doesn't help that I know I have a very poor chip (tested in another board also)
But thanks for trying to help
@Peen, i am shure that cstkl1 is not accusing you of posting "spam reports".
You really should have a good close read of his post though, because what he says is true. More often than not, getting a working 24/7 clock involves a lot of "thinking out of the box"
That said, you may have to just "bite the bullet", and dump the mobo for something else. I did, after running DFI's for years and years, and i don't regret it one little bit.
Whatever the problem is with the UT X58, it obviously is not going to be fixed with a bios release. It therefore is a basic mobo issue and will never be fixed for the peeps that suffer from the problem.
Got this running on the little T3EH6.
http://nietbelangrijk.nl/download/file.php?id=3260
HT = on
Vcore = 1.2375
VTT = 1.21
Dram = 1.6
IOH, PLL etc all at stock
This is stable in P95, WCG and every game I throw at it. Now, going higher than this ultimately results in BSOD or reboot regardless of voltages raised or HT turned off. So it isnt the heat either. Raised the multi to 24 for 4.2Ghz so I know the memory, uncore and QPI to be stable. No go. Same for 23 multi with memory clocked down and VTT raised a notch.
So a cpu related wall or just a board specific problem?
Spam report as ure saying ure end result without the beginning and middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
thats a spam report for me in my context.
hmm freeze.. issues if u look on eva's link for prime stability on some of our journeys for the bootup clock 185 for 2kc7
before than freeze was the biggest issues.. and overvolting the ioh/ich.
having exact vcore also played a lot. overvolting vtt also causes freeze.
this however is totally elpida hyper related.
so in ure case i would look into that...
try earlier bios before 05/28.
but as kitfit1 said .. heck getting another board also will help.
ive had two classies and 4 dfi's and 2 r2e
after playing around with classies actually some of the dfi settings now started to make more sense. and having tried.. i might go back to r2e before heading out for a p55.
also on another note
"famous phrase in xs on comments " - " i have been overclocking for a long time"
and also take note this has nothing to do with dram timings. absolutely nothing as that is vdimm related.
Well I don't know what to tell you, I'm not going for max ram speeds since it doesnt seem to matter or even max any speeds atm. I got really nothing to report on except it worked fine for over a week no crashes. 1-800-reboot and it's on a crashing/freezing spree again. This board has been RMA'ed once. I do know my ram has known problems with this board and my CPU is very bad clocker so that doesn't help. btw it's not always freezes but the BSOD's are 100% random think have seen them all with this board. Might try to do an early bios again. Do you know what chips the OCZ Gold 1600 8-8-8 kits use?
Haha it may be a famous quote but I aint no noob at this. Even though this has been making me feel that way lately :)
edit: ya i tried all that bootup clock stuff at 185 anyways, but my ram can't get anywhere near those speeds really anyways. I don't need to touch the IOH voltage till 215 bclk. Haven't really tried past 215 much
never called u a noob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
hmm ure running 12gbs or 1600 C8's at 4.2ghz??
prob exist for 6gb only or only at 12gb??
well i know for sure from the transition from ddr2 to ddr3 .. all mobo is dram chipset dependent.
I know you didn't, kinda feel like one though usually good at figuring out stuff like this.
hmmm I have run 12gb 1600 c8-8-8-24-1n @ 4.2ghz. That was actually the least likely to freeze setting.
But dang, just thought I can't remember if 6gb freezes so I might try it for a few days and see
Oh yeah for clarification, it's not just a stresstest failing, its always the harder crashes like BSOD and reboot. Tried a few different BIOS with no result.Quote:
Originally Posted by v0dka
maybe someone can help.ive got an i7-920 DO 3849B018 and this board and ozc ddr3-1333lvA kit and the ram passes memtest86 at stock(optimized defaults)
but once im in windows and try to prime95(blend) it fails instantly,one thread after another.what could be the cause of it not being able to prime at stock settings?
its really starting to get me really upset.any help would be appreciated.thank you
Edit-i just threw in another kit of ram,corsair ddr3-1333 2x3GB kit and same thing.what can be the cause?is it the cpu or board?
please help
heres a screenshot
http://i32.tinypic.com/2moxwdv.jpg
In these speeds, it is more likely related to RAM, than the CPU or MB (unless something is totally wrong with the CPU or the MB).
Do I see right that you are using vdimm=1.56v? In case you should use 1.65v and relax the timings (even more) to eliminate the RAM as the source of your problem. Your "other timings" on CPU-tweaker looks very "off" to me too.
Radaja, in my experience ram/chipset gets errors and CPU freezes/bsod's on this setup. Looks like you need more vdimm
this is set to optimized defaults.no OCing at all.
my speed in that SS is 1066Mhz.these are the
OZC 1333 low voltage (Animal kits).stock is
1333 cl7.the only thing weird in the SS to me is
the cpu at 2800Mhz,but i think thats turbo?i dont
think it should fail prime after loading optimized default
in the bios.that should be the most stable setting of all?
eh isnt ure twr suppose to be like 4 or 6... 8??Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
I'm going to try this today.Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
Quote:
Originally Posted by BieBiep
What floppy power connector? is it the one below the heatsink assembly near a fan connector?
Been running a few days at this speed no sudden weird crashes like 4.2ghz and 4.4ghz, 6gb vs 12gb made no difference
http://i30.tinypic.com/o7iv55.png
Btw what exactly is the difference between the IOH Analog voltage?
And I don't see how connecting the floppy would help with vdroop
Well, my 12v line fell below ATX spec (11.4xv or so) before I connected it. Now with the one connected, it stays @ 12.03v.
I had lots of crashes under load, (sometimes from GFX drivrs) so i'm supposing it was due to low voltage running trough my cards/mobo. All my voltage settings are the same as they used to be before the connection, but now it can pass long-term idling/OCCT'ing. So it did something...
well so far my venture into i7 has been miserable.
not liking it one bit.
still cant get it to run stable with stock settings.
instant failure in prime no matter what i do.
there has to be something seriously wrong with
either the cpu or board.
i am so mad right now.
why would it fail with memory running at 1066 speeds
i mean thats ddr2 speeds.it passes memtest86 without
errors,but as soon as im in windows and start prime95 blend
instant failure.
http://i26.tinypic.com/wlb33t.jpg