anyone who ordered from moterboardpro could you tell me how long it took you to get some sort of tracking number after your ordered it?
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anyone who ordered from moterboardpro could you tell me how long it took you to get some sort of tracking number after your ordered it?
a little over 24 hrs ... i ordered thurs afternoon and by friday 5pm they had me the tracking number. stayed in e-mail contact with them the whole time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades
i was skeptical cause someone posted in this thread that DFI had put a hold on shipping the boards. which may be partially correct cause newegg still doesn't list them.
my board is currently on fedex truck steaming from sacramento. only has to go 380 miles so i'm hoping with a good tailwind to have it by monday.
motherboardpro is charging $318 for the board, is that with free shipping or what?
not free shippingQuote:
Originally Posted by EYEBORG
After spending that kind of money on the IN9 32-Max & paying the premium for the RD600 flop, I'm gonna wait for the prices to level off. +$318 seems just way too much for a 680i LT board. A few weeks later that board could probably be had for $225 shipped.
well a quick scan of google shows:
$305.95 - ATACOM
$313.70 - Page Computers
$306.88 - UpgradeNation.com
the only difference being that mbpro can actually ship the board right now...
i'm not saying the price is right but i'm sitting here with a bunch of parts and no motherboard. no doubt you can wait a few months and the price will be lower, but isn't that the case with all hardware??
Nothing wrong with paying whatever for what you want. Heck I've bought two P965-S Darks just to see if I can get one to clock better than the other. Your situation is different, you have no board @ all. I have 9:)
:fact: Well, it is the power supply. It works 100% on any other board i've tried, just not this DFI 680i. It's running right now with my EVGA. I picked up an HEC 650w and the DFI Posts no problem. Switcned power supplies back and forth many times and always same outcome. No post with enermax, Post with HEC. I dont understand why it doesn't work, i just know it doesn't. I wont be testing this DFI for a while. My EVGA is just fine. I do not want to buy another powersupply with the wattage i need just to run this DFI board. If it becomes a "Magical Board" after later bios updates, i may sell this 1000w here at the shop and then buy a new one. I wonder if something like this issue could be fixed with a bios update?? Strange!! My apologies to Eyeborg for complaining about a bum board.:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
I can confirm this board works just fine with Enermax Infiniti 720 Watt PSU. I received my board today and it booted right up with not problem right off the bat with this PSU. I am very impressed with the board so far. Absolutely problem-free setup and seems very solid (knocks on wood). I have done no overclocking as of yet but my system is overall quicker now than with my previous AW9D-Max even with it overclocked. It boots faster, loads windows faster, shuts down faster, and general reponsiveness is noticably improved.
Nugzo, are you using the Enermax Galaxy EGA1000EWL or EGX1000EWL.
I am looking into it to see if we can get a bios fix or not.
Can anybody explain why a power supply would be incompatable? You'd think a $400 power supply would work on anything. Here is OBR with same problem with DFI http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2160906 Imagine that. i googled enermax galaxy DFI and my first response was the above link.
Dunno, box is at work. Whats the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by EYEBORG
I honestly don't know the difference, they look the same to me, I'm talking to Oskar about it, should have an answer soon.
Thanks a lot man!Quote:
Originally Posted by EYEBORG
I can't possibly imagine why a PSU would cause that kind of behavior unless the voltages were way out of spec, which most certainly can't be the case here. I'll be very curious to hear the outcome of this.
I was wondering the same thing. It's not like Enermax is some cheap off-brand or anything. Especially the model you've got. I hope that you will be able to get past this issue with help from Eyeborg and Oskar. This is one fun board to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Item Description QuantityQuote:
Originally Posted by EYEBORG
17-194-019 PSU ENERMAX|EGX1000EWL 1000W RT 1
EYEBORG why did you edit your post from last night regarding lapping the NB heatsink... i appreciated ya saying it cause i had never heard of lapping before. i hit up my local kragen this afternoon and have a variety of sandpapers ! ! hahaha
do you no longer think its a good idea to do ???
Well, I'm taking a breather from working with my board to post a few pictures... Here are a couple...
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/rainmaker021.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/rainmaker004.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/rainmaker026.jpg
More on my blog here... http://virtualrain.blogspot.com/2007...-dfi-680i.html
Back to work! :D :banana: :D
Great pictures Virtualtrain, thanks for posting them! That might be the smallest graphics card I've ever seen, lol! By the way I have heard from many Abit 680i users that the PWM temps are very high, well how does this board compare? Does the stock heatsink work well at resonable voltage/clockspeeds?
guess theres someone spending a little for memory :eek:
how much were theese ?
You don't wanna know.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
Board: $318; RAM: $480; CPU: $570 (in USD)Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
Whoa, didn't make the connection on the RAM! I thought it was their older PC2-6400 kit, that kit is awesome Virtualrain! 4GB of PC2-8500 at 5-4-4-12, that is just sick! Sorry to get sidetracked guys but I just had to say something, lol! I hope your able to put together a little review on that kit Virtualrain, any chance of that happening in the near future?
You bet. In the mean-time, you've probably seen this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=138670Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
really excited for your results man.
posted by Jobeo
Posted by virtualrain next postQuote:
why did you edit your post from last night regarding lapping the NB heatsink... i appreciated ya saying it cause i had never heard of lapping before.
Posted by Flytek two posts downQuote:
You are far more likely to F it up doing any kind of lapping to that.
nuf said. TY bothQuote:
it has become clear by now that a mirror finish is not what is the most important to heatsinks...what is important is the flatness....
A bit of TIM will solve that alot easier than lapping. That's what TIM is for! You are far more likely to F it up doing any kind of lapping to that.
yes that pic is of my sample boards heatsink....i think it has become clear by now that a mirror finish is not what is the most important to heatsinks...what is important is the flatness....even without a fan it is clear this heatsink does a good job...certainly far better than any other stock motherboard solution EVER...
I just thought the exact same thing... looks like some decent 2x2gb sets are finally on their way... just what i have been waiting for!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
That is NOT good news! bah... i was really looking forward to getting this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
@ Eyeborg - thanks for looking into this with Oskar... I hope its easily fixable
posted by Jobeo
look back four postsQuote:
why did you edit your post from last night regarding lapping the NB heatsink... i appreciated ya saying it cause i had never heard of lapping before.
Sometimes itīs good to approach a new Board the following way (like I did yesterday :rolleyes:):
1. Stop testing
2. Clear Cmos (on Board and Brain)
3. Go for a long walk and relax
4. When back - start again slowly and do a lot of notes
5. Guess what - it works better now (the board :D )
Still not 100% sure why the OCZ850PSU has such a low 5V Line ... but that would be worked out later :cool:
Some impressions of the setup:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7...800x600fy0.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4...800x600lv4.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5...800x600wc2.jpg
Nice setup! Thats some sweet lapping your your HSF there m8.... i could do my hair in that CPU LOL! ;)
when it will go out a new bios for quad ??? :)
are we still waiting for this board to hit retail? dang it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think motherboardpro has em. Or has them dropped shipped from DFI.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
ya its strange and had me thinking today. doesn't it seem abnormal that Tony spoke with DFI and they said a hold was being place on all boards going out, yet mbpro is getting them shipped from the california warehouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
seems like the left and right hands disagree on whether or not to ship the board. with the people in california saying "no, this has been delayed long enough we are putting it out".
newegg still doesn't have them listed and they were supposed to be receiving the initial batch of 45........ . .. . . . the initial batch which seems to be leaking out of San Leandro...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobeo
The delay was okayed to be lifted 2 days ago, so the boards are free to ship. There is no left hand - right hand situation..
I have a couple of issues... not sure if these are just me or widespread:
1) (Minor) nTune can't see a lot of the voltages, bus values, etc. for this board.
2) (Minor) Speedfan sees the +3.3V value as 1.22V
3) (Major!) I can't install Vista x64 on this board without BSOD. I tried 3 times. Same result. It may be the crappy MX 4000 video card I'm using for bench testing but the driver is there in Vista x86 so I'd be surprised if it wasn't included in x64. Otherwise, I'm doing a bare-bones install.
Can anyone else see if they can install Vista x64 on this board?
BTW, it's prime stable overnight on stock settings (on Vista x86). Ready to go to the next step!
Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
Remove one of your 2 gig sticks. It should install with ok with 2gb. Do all windows updates then put memory back in. For me with the EVGA i would still sometimes get the BSOD on boot, i would let it bluescreen and loop and it would eventualy make it to desktop. Then i would run windows update again with the 4gigs in and i would get a single update concerning X64 hardware compatibility. i would never get this update with only 2gb installed. after i installed that update i was good to go. would run fine from then on out. Again this was with EVGA 680i. This was the only way i could get it to install and run with more than 2gigs of ram.
edit: also i had problems installin x64 while overclocked.
Interesting... Thanks... I'll try that. Maybe I can find the fix and slipstream it into the install as well to save future grief.
EDIT: Fix is here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777
let me try too boot into vista, maybe i can get the update number.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
Pretty sure this is it. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
SYMPTOMS
When you try to install Windows Vista, you may receive an error message that resembles the following:
STOP 0x0000000A (parameter1, parameter2, parameter3, parameter4)
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
This problem occurs if the following conditions are true:
• The computer uses more than 3 GB of RAM.
• The computer uses a storage system that is running the Storport miniport driver.
• The computer uses a controller that uses 32-bit direct memory access (DMA).
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4412/capturelm6.jpg
Yeah, I found it as well by searching the MS KB... Thanks nugzo! :toast:
Fix is here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777
I'm off to reinstall Vista x64... "I'll be back!"
Let me know how the slipstream works out please.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
My board ships out on monday!
Will have results shortly afterwards... Now... what to do with this Striker...
Nice... i really hope these hit Europe (well the UK at least for me!) soon. No where even has them listed yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
don't fret. they're kinda hard to get over here in the U.S. atm too. thankfully mine is on-truck i'm praying for a monday delivery.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
if the new bios gets released maybe it'll give me a reason to pull this baby off the shelf =)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...XX001/vapo.jpg
Got Vista x64 to boot, but used your technique of taking out one stick of RAM and then applying the patch after install. I'll try the slipstream method in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Anyway, all appears good in x64 now.
A couple of other things (perhaps unrelated to this board and more particular to Vista)...
1) During Vista install, it seemed to hang at "Completed Installation..." (I left it for an hour with no change). I googled this and found there were tons of people having this issue. At least in my case, it was a simple matter of removing my USB flash drive from one of the USB ports. I had left it there from eariler... I guess it caused the Vista install some grief. Anyway, I should have followed my own advice which is to remove any and all storage devices from the system (except your main boot disk) before installing Vista.
2) Even with C1E disabled in BIOS, Vista wants to use speed step to lower the clock on the CPU. All CPU settings in Genie are on factory defaults. Either there is another BIOS setting I'm missing or Vista doesn't care and want's to throttle CPU speed anyway. The work around I'm currently using is to simply set the power profile in Control Panel > Power Options to "High Performance". That seemed to stop the speed step nonsense.
3) This may be common knowledge around here but if you are using the lastest version of Speedfan, you need to adjust the offset on the core temperature readings by 15-deg C for them to match CoreTemp.
Again, these may have nothing to do with this board, but may be helpful never-the-less.
I've started compiling a list of Tips, Tricks, Issues, and Helpful Links on my Blog and I'll post it in the Intel Support Forum as well.
Check them out and let me know if I've missed anything current. I'll do my best to keep it up to date based on what is posted on XS and DFI Club, etc.
whats the difference between an x3220 and a q6600? are they the same ??? x3220 better bins?? different tdp's?
advantages of dfi 680i over udder ones??
As for the x3220, it's apparently binned differently for lower TDP/voltage/temp. (or something) but it could all be just rumor. No one, to my knowledge, has been able to confirm anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Time will tell if the DFI 680i has any advantages over other 680i boards, but it has a great layout, great support, excellent BIOS options, and it's DFI! :)
Hi, I have a new issue with this board and Vista x64...
When I select shutdown, the board appears to be cutting power instantly which has ultimately corrupted my OS install...
This evening after doing some Prime testing at all stock settings just to ensure I have a stable/working board... I shutdown Vista x64 via the start menu. It immediately shut of the PC without going through the requisite (Logging Off... Shutting Down...) routine.
I then restarted the machine and it gave me a message after POST indicating that Windows was not shut down properly... what did I want to do? I said... Start Windows Normally.
Thinking this was odd, I tried shutting it down again. Same thing... immediate power off without going through the normal logoff/shutdown routine.
This time the OS would not start... I had to cycle power again and got it to start but now the OS is corrupt. A lot of systemprograms won't run (welcome center, control panel, etc.).
Any thoughts on why the board might be killing the power right away? Is this a BIOS issue?
I'm going to reinstall Vista tomorrow and try this again, but I'm a bit concerned.
I am not running Vista x64 (I'm running XP Pro SP2) but I would think that if this were a BIOS issue the problem would occur regardless which operating system was used. I am not having this issue, mine shuts down normally.
Are u hitting the 'power' button on the start menu to shut down vista? If so, that doesnt actually shut it down. It puts it into sleep as default, and I know some of the builds ive done on Vista have issues coming out of sleep and often crash. U can change the power button settings so it shuts down like on XP, or click on the arrow to the side of the restart? button and it will give u all the restart/hibernate/sleep/shutdown options to choose from.
wow this is an LT board for over $300? that's insanely expensive for a board that is supposed to be the "budget" revision of a chipset. I wonder if DFI will release a non LT version, it took them long enough to bring out their first 680i offering...
I must say though,I may buy this board based on the fact they use digital PWMS alone. I'm sure that alone will help against these horrendous ram killing scenarios we are seeing with almost every other 680i based board right now.
some news from europe
german shop get this day the mobo, and start shipping motherboard ....
Anywhere have these in stock in the States?
I want one pretty much yesterday, and I can't stand this IN9 with a Q6600 anymore.
hrmm... motherboardpro was the place to try but it seems they have emptied the DFI warehouse... even before newegg listed the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
they are now reporting May 16th as the next possible shipping date...
kinda seems like they did a beta release doesn't it.
Hey, Eyeborg, dont suppose u've heard any more about this issue? Only its a deal breaker for me! LOL! btw, the Enermax galaxy I have is the EGA1000EWL, if that makes any difference, i see the one nuzgo is having problems with is the EGX1000EWL.Quote:
Originally Posted by EYEBORG
I ordered my DFi 680lt from motherboardpro Friday should be arriving tommorrow but I'm having second thoughts about building an entirely new system and waiting for the X38 or see how the P35 goes.:slap: So i might just sell it. If anyone might be interested pm me. It will be of course unused/unopened.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincey2kr1
damnnit i ordered mine friday too still havent got a tracking number
Ya i had to call get my Tracking number. They've been real good with customer service give them a call.
I got my tracking # as well from them today. They shipped fast and communicated with me the whole time. Been good so far!
Hey Mike, re: Enermax PSU, nothing yet, DFI-SJ is trying a few things, this is what I'm told...
time will tell...
Yeah, I was... thanks for reminding me of this. I'll look into that. Not sure why things are corrupted or disfunctional, but I'll try another reinstall and pay more attention to how I shut it down. Vista can be a PITA but the eyecandy makes it so worthwhile!Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
It seems Mbpro is really trying to make a good impression and build some cred. They seem to have a direct line with DFI in CA so they are on top of everything. I highly recommend them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
indeed... its uncanny. and someone mentioned in this thread they only became a partner with DFI last week...Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
newegg has a whole section of their website devoted to DFI called "The DFI Store" and they can't even get the boards.
it was your mention of mbpro that motivated me to order from them and thank god for it cause my board is on the truck to be delivered tomorrow. can't wait ! ! !
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US
The new Beta BIOS releases are available now.
I like the fact they labled em...one for quad and one for dual...I was hoping they would do something cpu specific instead of trying to go "one size fits all". Well done DFI...Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Yup, nice touch by DFI. Always liked the fact there were so many specific bioses/betas etc...
I'm going to start overclocking tonight after work, so this is a very timely release! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
c2d overclocking is great so far for me. Same as EVGA.
Quad on the other hand isnt going well. Updated to beta quad bios, while running orthos, system shuts off as if shut off temp was reached. I have shut off temp disabled in bios. Strange. This is just my first few hours with this board, so i will go back to quad in the next day or 2 and try again.
anyone tried an E6420 or 4x1gb d9 sticks yet?
It's all in the GTL/Ref and BSEL settings. ;) The problem is if you are off by 1 value, the board will lock, every CPU is just a little different, three Quads here, all three require different settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
In other words no OC guide for the masses :D You "WILL" have to do some trial and error for your particular setup...
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
yeah for sure, gtl is actually tuning, any one of the gtl's could be off 1-2 points, as well as vtt.
The system shuts down, as if power plug was pulled. Is that what you mean when you say the board will lock? I just want to make sure something else isnt wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Is anybody else having CPU temp reprting issues with this board? Smart gaurdian and bios read 60c and everest and coretemp show 45c.
it reads high, i already told DFI, just use coretemp in the meantime as its deadly accurate anyway
How have you set your gtl's up, have you checked Oskar's chart @ TTR, the 1.4 vtt mark is where you need to be aiming...Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
check the chart here, http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=163
I did not run Orthos, around 30 mins of OCCT is usually cool.
Btw if you got a qx6700 the 1400fsb mark is cool, same access latency @ 1400 as you will get @ 1800, so worth exploring... As is the dual bios on a quad which I will be working with...
regards
Raja
I have an X3220 and cannot access any multi other than x9... CPU multi option is just not there after the initial boot with the latest BIOS. Can others with a non-Extreme proc confirm that they also don't have access to lower multi's?
More on this strangeness here... http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2547
when bios is first flashed you should have an option to run @ native 9, or downwards from that point (8), look for the cpu multi unlock function in the cpu features page straight after a bios flash...
and select which way you want to go, this is a quirk atm, for the most part though you will wanna stay with 9 if performance is important to you..
regards
Raja
Ok... I noticed (as you will see on my post at the Club Forums) this quirk of having an unlocked multi right after flashing but that the option disappeared after the next reboot!Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely start OC'ing at x9 for now.
the quirk has a technical reason behind it, the rom sip table is adjusted to allow you to go lower without sacrificing fsb limits. So you select which way to go after that first flash and stick with lower or default, it's not the most ideal or friendly way of doing things, however, it gives high fsb potential based upon the method you choose...
Lol, what is it with DFI and inaccurate temp sensors? Both my SLI-DR expert, and CFX3200 had temps sensors that were way out. U'd think they would get that right on boards that offer such voltage options!Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Better to say the temps are higher than lower!
Motherboardpro, now says these boards will be shipped fedex 3 day from CA on May 14th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobeo
Trying this now.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Nugzo... it would be great if you could report on what has worked and not worked for you so far... Let us know! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Here you go guys, one of the reasons 500+fsb is worthless on the 680LT...490 linked and sync mode 4-4-3-5 9200 Flex/Reaper
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...kedandsync.JPG
Above 500 you will see over 500MB/s drop in bandwidth.
Thanks TonyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Still no go for me and quad core QX6700 L648B. System just turns off suddenly while running Prime 95. System Runs flawless when using C2D bios and E6600. With Quads, i spent 3-4 hours today playing with different settings. End result is i dont know. I can run 3D with out issues, but as soon as i crank Prime 95 up system shuts off. Any Ideas? I've tried different vcore, vtt, gtl, and different multis. Does this at default settings and overclocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
My DFI965 did the exact same thing with my qx6700, the system just shut down like I pulled the plug. Very fustrating.
Nugzo/Bootsy,
This is just a suggestion but is there any chance that the PSU is playing an issue when the Quad Core is installed? I realize that sounds crazy given your Thermaltake supply/Silverstone supply but as many have already realized the boards are a bit finicky when it comes to PSU's? Plus an issue with the power supply might cause the type of issues your having (shut down)? With that said what supplys are you guys using that have successfully run Quad Cores on this motherboard? I can imagine how frustrating thsi would be so I'm just tying to help out! Good luck guys and keep us posted on progress!
all this info has got me excited. newegg needs to get this in stock.
depends what kind of fsb you are trying to achieve , on any board, you are really only gaming or benching stable to some extent once yo go over a certain limit. Prime stability will always come in lower and in not always reminiscent of where you can run day to day without issue. System shutdowns usually signify ram instability of some sort.
Memory is perfectly stable. I've used the Kingston and Mushkin in my sig. I'm using it now. 6hrs on memtest last night 0 errors. It works on other boards with same cpu. i can run the kingston at 1200mhz no problem. shut downs happen even at 700mhz, but only with the QX6700. Flash Bios to C2D version, install E6600, overclock to 3800mhz, run orthos/prime all day, no shut downs.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju