Give me a little bit and I'll post some suggestions for stable 8GBs
Give me a little bit and I'll post some suggestions for stable 8GBs
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
:eek: Set performance level to 6, ram to 1066 5-5-5-4-18-55-10-5Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Not sure if my RAM will do that and the board definitely will not. Won't even get to bios with PL 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I can get PL 9 stable, but even 8 fails blend at 400fsb. I'll play with my voltages and try to get it rock solid at 400 to so I have a good baseline to work off of. 420 is a sweet spot for my config, if I can get there stable.
Update: got a 1hr blend stable 400fsb, PL9, 1.25vcore, 1.7vnb, 1.53fsb term.
What is the DIMM VTT and where is ti in the bios?
OK, so I'm close to 420 stable now.
Not quite stable yet, although it does load Vista 64. I'd like to improve the performance level ans make this stable and call it a day. Any thoughts?Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1008
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: ?
Ai Clock Twister : ?
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [9]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : Auto (1.24v) hard setting this causes not to boot.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71v
DRAM Voltage : 2.06v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled
Suggestions are in bold
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1008
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4
8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5 craps out use(6)
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5 craps out use(6)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [9]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : Auto (1.24v) hard setting this causes not to boot.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71v really try to lower this
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58v This is to high imo
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
Thanks. I suspect I am strong arming the system into booting with the NB and FSB term voltage. I'll make your suggested changes and try to lower those.
keep us posted or your results:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
What bios are you on? We'll see if your board is a PL 6er or not. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Right now I'm on Rampage 0601. I made the conversion just for this chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I didn't make Grnfinger's suggested changes yet, but I dropped the buss to 416, dropped the RAm to 1:1, and at PL 9, I've got it blend stable for 90 minutes now. It's either the RAM only being rated at 1000mhz or the divider that was the problem. We'll see how it does, but this RAM never liked anything over 1000mhz. Tony even warned against trying to push it past that as they really aren't binned to do so.
I must say, this chip is a delight! 3.5 no problem, cool as can be and it wants LESS volts. VID on maximus bios was 1.1125, Rampage VID came up as 1.2125, but either way, I think I'll keep this thing for quite a while. Any thoughts on why it wants auto voltage instead of hard set?
I'll make Grnfingers changes and get back to yal'. Thanks for the help.
I noticed you have a PC-8000 ram so 1:1 is your best bet to eliminate ram instability. But at 416, you shoud be able to run PL7, 1:1.
well lets see then. I'll get back to you with results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
No sig Zucker2k?
Whats ya building???????
Nothing mate, same old hardware :up: I'm giving Nehalem a wide berth, performance margin over my current system isn't worth the switch for me. Yeah, it'll mean I'd be a noob when I finally switch :rofl: but I swear I'm a quick learner. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I have a i7920 cpu no ram yet nor a mobo, looking hard at the rampage and some corsair
going to build from scratch so I need another H2O setup case psu ect ect... hope to have it powerd up by xmas.
Cool, guess you can call it an xmas gift to yourself :) Run some benches afterwards and I'll put my Q9550 against it so we can see the performance difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Right now I'm at 420fsb, PL 8. Blend is doing fine for almost an hour now. Should I burn this one in or see how much higher I can go with these settings? I woudl like to hit 450 if possible.
With a Mximus Formula, it's a roll of the dice, but with luck, you should be able to make it.
How low do shoudl I be able to get the PL at this speed?
450FSB PL7 should be the limit
Just wondering...
Is there results of this MoBo going 600MHz on FSB? Does it needs to be voltmoded for this reason?
No, you have more than what you'll need for 600fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hu13caP
I need some advice trying to get my ram stable at 500MHz. CPU is stable up to 4.0GHz, so I'm testing it lower (3.2GHz).
Prime95 errors out after 5-10 minutes each time.Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto (266 IIRC to get ram @ 500)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1003
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Tried all settings
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level tried 7 & 8
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.35v (reads 1.336v)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v (reads 1.6v)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v (reads 1.6v)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08v (reads 2.16V)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v (reads 1.328v)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10v (reads 1.12v)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v (reads 1.63v)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)
Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled
System specs are:
Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU
Putting together RII Extreme i7 920 and CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB DDR3 1600. Will be moving the Apogee GTZ and PA120.2 over for cooling cpu. Not sure about the NB cooler yet. I'll let you know how everything goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
And I know this won't offer me any major performance increase in gaming over my current asus builds but hell I'm a bencher
system specs?Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Sorry (I'm used to having them in my siggy everywhere else). System specs are:
Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU
I have tried running the ram at DDR-1000 (NB @ 266), DDR-961 (NB @ 333) and both did not work. Saw a PDF file on the G.Skill site that lists the BIOS settings for this ram with this board, and it said to put the CPU at 333, the NB at 266 and the ram at DDR-1000 (or 1003 maybe) with all other ram settings at Auto. I did this with the CPU at stock speed and voltages. Same thing happened - no more than 5 minutes of Prime.
It seems the only thing I can get this ram stable at is DDR-800 with Auto timings (5-5-5-15). Unfortunatley, that makes the bandwidth suck (around 6300 MB/s). Running the ram at DDR-1000 gave a nice little boost (around 7600 MB/s) so I would like to do that and run the CPU around 4 GHz like I had it before.
suggestions are in bold.Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
the Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 is a must as far as I know, the rest is what made the difference for me but of course voltages can vary from board to board.
Update on my Q9550/Maximus ventures...
I'm locked in at 430, PL8. Pretty sure I'm stuck there. Tried everything I knew but no go. Any suggestions guys? Can I egt PL7 at this speed or are there other settings to squeak out some xtra performance?
Hi Guys,
A quick question here.
I have a set of Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2 x 1 GB (D9GMH:up:) RAM. For a contest I'm trying to find the highest (superpi 1 M stable) speed at 5-5-5-15. What are the most loose timings for the other settings? It's not about the most effective timings, but about maximum DRAM Frequency. How far can I go in Voltage without frying my beloved RAM?
Thanks!
i would say maybe 2.5v max for a quick session - just make sure you have some form of cooling on them (dual 80mm fans etc)
Thanks for the quick response. I'll use a big fast fan on them. What about the timings? Any idea? Is just setting all the timings to their maximum a good idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by scottath
i havent tried much with my timings - just 5-5-5-15 and the rest auto....i have got to 1200mhz with my 800mhz sticks.
So i have no idea about the other 2 sets of subtimings.....sorry
just note - 2.5v MAY be a bit excessive.....may want to wait on anothers responce before trying that high.....
Comments are added above in bold. I'm not trying to be a "negative Nancy" but I have tried nearly all those settings, most of which were altered one at a time (basic setup was entered and tested, then settings were manipulated from there). I'm willing to try more if you guys can steer me in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
try these exact settings and see if it works. Once you get it stable you can try to lower the voltages if you like.
Code:FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level: 8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.55v
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)
OK guys, so as I said earlier, I got my system stable at 430fsb.
Right now my volts are:
1.7v nb
1.6v fsb term
How safe is that? or am I going to kill something?
Thats alot of NB juice, if temps are ok then it should be fine but I would really try to lower it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
FSBT is way to high for 24/7 use, it needs to be lowerd ALOT
What are you trying for ?Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Post your hardware as well please.
I am just trying to get my ram to run at DDR2-1000 like it is rated at. System specs were listed at the top of the page, but here they are again:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU
Will do as soon as I get the chance. Thanks :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
You have tested dimms with memtest?Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Assuming the answer is yes...getting your quad to 500FSB for 1000MHz ram is highly unlikely on this board.
It will require alot of volts that will not be a great 24/7 setup.
for 4.0GHz and best ram I would run
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
This will give you decent bandwidth and allow for resonable volts
Now if your ram can do it there is this alternative
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
So while remounting my cpu cooler I noticed that the screws on the NB heatsink were "loose", so I screwed them all in, and my NB temps went higher :S What is this, has this happened to anyone else ?
running a NB voltage at 1.47, temps around 65-67'C when blending in prime95, it is idling at 59-60'C.SB is almost allways around 52-55'C
Q6600@400x8, vcore 1.28. HD4870x2.
ur probably bowing the board causing poor contact with the core. don't over tighten the screws.Quote:
Originally Posted by w0lla
I've never been able to get this to work. I know it will increase performance, but I'm at 430fsb right now,Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
What can I do to get over that hump?Code:DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Have you tried to see what max FSB you can get by lowering the multiplier?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Hell I can get it at 500FSB and higherQuote:
Originally Posted by MJR
430 is not your problem, it would be your ram.
I would remove 4GB's run 2x2GB's and start clocking up, to find your max MHz
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../TEST4_505.png
Grn, what ram is that @ 1200MHz?
I know my board will hit 450+ as I did that with my e6700 and some ballistix. At this point I'm only interested in what I can do with 8gb or RAM. My RAM is rated for 1000mhz. Does RAM have FSB walls as well? I just assumed this RAM would be good all the way up to 500fsb 1:1. I'll get some new RAM if that'll help, but I want to max out performance on this board with 8gb of RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Dominators version 1.2 Micron D9GMHQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
8GBs will be hard on the NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
I would remove 4GBs and find your max MHz running 4GB's.
Once you have 4GBs stable you can make concessions to get/keep 8GBs stable.
Because your ram is rated for 1000MHz dosent mean 8GBs will run that fast, there is a trade off...So depending on what you want for a cpu clock you might want to look at better ram, I mean no offence but that ram is far from the best and Asus boards are not very OCZ friendly at times.
Post what your ideal setup would be
FSB
Multi
Divider
Ram MHz
Then various setups can be tested, I have the same board and chip, altho not OCZ I have 8GB's of Mushkin XP-2 I can use.
No offense taken. The best part of the RAM (maybe the only good part) is that its shinny heat spreaders match the OCZ cooler I have. I'll test 4GB and consider upgrading the RAM. Honestly, if you think it's likely I'll get 450+ with some better RAM, I'll order some new stuff. This Q9550 and Maximus board will not go to waste due to the RAM. I can promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
What would be the recommended RAM for 8gb on this board?
Well it seems my single sided tracers decided they needed to lay to rest. Had them running at 1081 for quite some time. Would love to hit 3.8 with a 2x2 set if someone could help me with my decision. Also have plans to get MF2 after the holidays :up:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...page=2&bop=And
I have this kit and there great, if you have the budget then I would get them
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231194
Mushkin Redlines would be a good choice there a decent performerQuote:
Originally Posted by MJR
with this setup you should be golden
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 or 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1000-1066 are
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6
DRAM Static Read Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 8
concessions can be made after the rig is stable to tweak maximum performance.
actually you could try this timing on your OCZ and see how it works out for you.
I have tested this for 45 mins and it passed prime blend and memtest, just a thought.
Get this instead, it'll easily overclock past DDR2 1100; hell you could get two kits for that price. I'm about to pull the trigger for 4x2GB of this particular kit. I'm tired of being limited by ram. Look out for 4.3Ghz on my Q9550 when I get my dirty hands on them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231211
Edit: Hold on guys; looks like these are only good for 1:1 up to 960MHZ. I'll update if I find out anything else.
Edit: @ Grnfinger: what is the max frequency on 8800 PI?
So I tried with only 2 DIMMs and sure enough, it boots at 440 and 450 (although it crashes pretty quickly) which tells me the 8gb is definitely holding me back since I can't get a click over 435 with 8gb. To tell the truth, after looking at RAM prices I think I'll hold off for now. If I see a nice set on sale anytime soon I'll probably scoop it up, but there is no guarantee this board will take a divider at this speed with 8gb even if the RAM can do it. If anything, I might actually get just one set of good RAM for benching and playing with, but stick with my current setup for 24/7 use.
You make a compelling argument. 4ghz with 8gb RAM, 24/7 stable and safe would be nice. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I didn't know if those sticks were worth it or not. Guess I'll have to wait and see what you do with them, although duplicating your results never is easy.
I'm not really trying to get the CPU to 500 MHz FSB, just the ram. If I run it at the right speed & divider, it puts the ram up to 500 FSB. I just want to get it stable there :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks for the info. Wife is out of town the next couple of days, so I will either tweak or put in the watercooling. Can't decide which yet :(
thanx grnfinger, cant wait to get my MFII
Hey MJR, did you mean set the FSB term v to 1.55v in the BIOS, or 1.55v actual? Seems my board is undervolting quite a bit on that (~.07v).Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
It's actually nothing, you gotta pay attention to how your chip is interacting with your mobo. Best thing is to have NB running cool. My NB never tops 40C under load even with 1.75v. The two crucial things, as far as the cpu is concerned, is vtt and gtl. CPUPLL is not as crucial as the other two. My stock cpupll is around 1.58v and I rarely get it any higher than. Sometimes, it is best to leave gtl on auto (I know I myself, am guilty of trying to set everything manually). I achieved this overclock with lowest volts all around... and gtl set to auto. You just have to pay attention to the behavior of your components as you push them... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
8x450 (3.6Ghz)
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...752e6a4587.jpg
All settings for the above overclock can be found here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=964
I've known for a while that I need some better NB cooling. Right now I have an ANtec spot cool on the NB, but it can get a little out of hand when the fans are turned down. Honestly, I don' t know if my NB has EVER been as low as 40c. Do you have h20 on your NB? Maybe it's time I get a nb block for this thing.
dude! I just actually looked at your volts! That's just not right! You know ur only pouring salt on my wounds by showing me that... :lol2:
:D I know.... I also just run a quick test to see show these results can be duplicated... both chip and board are different, same ram. cpu volts are high, forgot to change them for this run.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Edit: OF COURSE, I"M RUNNING ON WATER!!! :p:
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...410580470e.jpg
Bump:)Quote:
Originally Posted by tiesum
Max is 1147MHz @ 1.9 volts, I can squeeze alittle more if I up the volts to 2.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
There not a bad kit for the money just wont do 1200MHz
The binning on that series is very tight indeed; my 8500s can do that. Anyway, I got 2 kits of the 7200s 4-4-4-12 coming. I'm excited, maybe I can get dd2 1066 cas 4; that'll be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
There the rejects IC's from the 9600 series, I like them cause they run at 1.9volts for 1132MHz. Not a stellar kit for sure and no records will be set using them
My Dominators are still the best
I think I'll get my NB under H2o before I get new memory. After a little research, i see the EK s-max is the way to go.
However, I'm still considering new memory. What's the real difference between the
8500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231184
8800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231194
and the 7200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231211 ?
Also, what about any of the Crucial Ballistix or Tracer 2x2 kits?
Probably posted (a few times) already, but here's a RAM list with the chips on them if you're planning on upgrading:
http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr2/
I know the list isn't complete so make sure you Google your thing before you buy it. You're looking to buy the Micron D9GKX chips if possible.
does that list apply to 2gb sticks?
I am just not having any kind of luck with these sticks. Both MJR and Grnfinger's settingsdid me no good. Now I am seriously doubting these sticks, but I also have doubt about the NB. As Zucker2k said, NB needs to be cool. Mine usually runs about 54C when the voltage is pushed to it. Right now at stock with all fans on high (1.34V) it's still over 43C w/stock cooling. I want to put the S-Max and EK Supreme back in sooooooo bad... :(
I tried to loosen them again, it got a bit better. I guess my 4870x2 pushes the temps up :SQuote:
Originally Posted by MJR
I noticed one more weird thing, I got my NB set at 1.45v in bios, checking it in windows (via everest) it fluctuates between 1.39/.42/.46/1.49v (idle), its jumping between those values constantly. While intelburning or prime:ing it usually is steady 1.47v. Is this normal?
I got an EK nb s-max on the way. It'll be interesting to to see how much difference this makes with my current hardware. IF it doesn't help my RAM overclocking, I'll definitely be investing in some new sticks.
I got the F2-7200CL4 PIs, all 8GBs of tightly binned ics. Anyway, I have them running at 1:1 @ 942Mhz 4-4-3-12, 2.18v PL7; 5-5-5-15 is good up to 1060 and no more. The bandwidth is good however, I'll post screenies later. Here is a little something for you guys with the quads...
#25 on the world record database for Q9550, :D
http://en.ripping.org/database.php?cpuid=634
Very nice m8 :up:
Thanks Cory, some bandwidth screenies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Edit: I needed 1.55v VNB to make this stable: MCI win memtest verified.
Hi guys sorry for the lame question but gotta change from q6600 to q9550 tomorrow nad get the machine stable for work, what would be the best one?
recently I'm on 907, working on 3600 450x8 900Mhz.
Thx for the help!
would the nb waterblock heatsink on the maximus formula se,work well enough as a passive air heatsink,as in no water going thru it?/
thnx
no, but :)
ffs wut time is it *dazed & confused* - passive Wb is silly
nn
only reason i am asking is i may have borked my rampage formula,i have a line on the mf se board,but do not want to watercool the nbQuote:
Originally Posted by clip
If you have the non nipple version, a quiet low CFM fan like the one off a Jing Ting NB cooler works extremely well. I stuck some plastic pins in the holes to secure it. It cools about 5-7C better on my setup. Currently running @ 38C or so w/ 1.33V to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Images are clickable and I've since cut down the pins to a better size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_IMG_2271.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_IMG_2270.jpg
With good air flow there is no need to water cool the NB if you have the fuzion block.Quote:
Originally Posted by jtf2
I would point a fan at it to help keep temps in check, but as long as your NB stays around 47-50c full load then it wont be an issue
1004 was best for me, but if your Q9550 is E0 you will nedd bios 1207 iirc or higherQuote:
Originally Posted by youraa
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
I had a 70mm fan off an AMD stock heatsink on it a while back and it worked wonders. Right now that's a bit too big for the Noctua I have on there right now. I just used a couple screws from the heatsink to put it in there (watching for any metal that may have come off the heatsink when the screws went in of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
i'm in need of new ram for my MF. i'm looking for a 2x2gig kit, whick kits are running the best in this board?
i'm running a q6600 and is very picky with settings while running 4x1gig sticks. its wierd because with a e8400 4x1gig is easy as pie.
What runs best in what terms?
Do you want high performance RAM or value RAM?
Nearly any stick does it job pretty well on the MF / RF board and the overclocking potential is mainly determined by the chipset used.
If you want high quality RAM then simply get G.Skill / Cellshock / Team Xtreme and the likes. Just check the DDR2 list I posted here before (not mine) and see what sticks got Micron chips or Google the ones you find in the net and see whether they clock high.
There's another very good (newer) chip out there just like the two top-end Microns, but I forgot what it's called.
Unfortunately, I've got the C1 version with a vid 1.200, got it from a friend, it's from april this year, I have the 1207 bios installedQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
right now I have 3.6 (8.5x 400) strap 333, on 1.185 cpu v ??? and it's quite stable.
I booted 3.74 but didn't get it stable yet, My aim is 450x8,5 but still no luck in booting to it:(((
Would you think that bios change could do the trick? I mean downgrade the bios from the newest version?
Maybe somenoe can post his setting to achieve that? :))thx!
Or maybe I need higher operating RAM?? I mean at least 1066mhz hmmm I'm a bit lost here,on my q6600 it worked 450x8 easy on strap 400, and i had stable 3.6, is there a fsb problem over 400mhz with this cpu?
has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?
Quote:
Originally Posted by youraa
When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.
Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021
CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : W/E your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allubz
i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.
i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.
i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.
Many good kits out thereQuote:
Originally Posted by rangerone7669
imo avoid OCZ and Crucial
1. Corsair (any model)
2. GSkill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 ( best choice imo)
3. Mushkin
many thx! will try to play with that, and I will do pictures of my kinda stable setting 3655(without stress tests gaming+work+internet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Now my NB is much lower than when I shot these it's 1.51 :))) - the 1.61 was a q6600 setting
Since I picked up 8GBs of the 7200s, my PC2-8500 G.Skills 4GB kit is up for sale. The sticks do 1100+ easy. I managed to push them all the way to 1180 one time. These are very good sticks, I've seen no other sticks of this particular series reach the frequency these sticks have. PM me if interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by rangerone7669
PS: I'll be posting my results with the 7200s soon.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i've been looking at gskill's, but i've never used them. glad to see others have had good luck with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.
I think your math is off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
8.5 x 425 is not 3.825
Where can I download it from? Maybe it would solve the issue of the chipset block on 430fsb, and finally I could hit 3.825 :))Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive...rmula-0701.romQuote:
Originally Posted by youraa
thx :) I added above the screenshots of my bios settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Let us know the results :) maybe finally it could go over 430fsb :))Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Oh and what is your VID? Do you have a C1 version?
help! I'm having random crashes with this settings, sometimes it gives me memory dump error, sometimes it will restart instantly specially when i play games such as GTA IV.
here is my bios setting:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 10.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266Mhz
FSB Frequency : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3
2nd Information : All Auto
3rd Information : All Auto
DRAM Static Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
vNB is to low for the 266 strap, try 1.47-1.49-1.51Quote:
Originally Posted by junkun13
set trfc (row refresh cycle time) to 55
I'm sharing my results with the F2-7200CL4PI-B. I made a separate thread just to see if there are any other sticks with > or similar results; no biters yet :)
Thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=210381
Not bad at all imo; and once again, I need modest volts for the NB with 8GBs and FSB of 471. :shrug: Quad 32m prime stable. The very low timings are what blows me away though. I was thinking this would translate into higher max frequency on CL5, but I was wrong. This seems more a product of the Ics themselves. It's close to perfect for me, but I'm still tweaking cpu volts, as well as pushing for 475fsb 1:1. Enjoy! :up:
Rampage Formula x48, bios 0308
Q9550, C1 @ 8.5x471fsb
4x2GB G.Skill PC2-7200 CL4 @ 942mhz, 1:1, PL7 with the following settings:
Primary: 4-4-3-9-1-40-4-2
Secondary: 7-2-4-4-6-4-6
Tertiary: 11-4-1-4-4
Volts are in the screenies....
Windows Server 2008 x64 (Everyday OS)
My 24/7... not fully tweaked yet.
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...aa681f5c7c.jpg
Same...
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...e4346b758f.jpg
475fsb
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/...ed86a706b1.jpg
500FSB CL5 with the quad is easy, but only possible at PL9; though all pull-in phases on CHA can be enabled. Does that make it a PL8.5? :) Don't ask me.