AMD To Launch Radeon HD4890 "RV790" In April

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03-22-2009, 08:28 AM
marten_larsson

Let's not make this thread about PhII vs i7 now shall we. As long as the tests are done with the same testbed/specs there's really no need to criticise (spelling?) the review/tests.
03-22-2009, 08:34 AM
Hell Hound

Yes,but a platform designed just for this gpu will perform better.:CTF:
03-22-2009, 09:07 AM
Salsoolo

crysis should get killed as a benchmark game. thats enough. this game loves geforce, i thought you know that.
i say we need new games (coded better)
03-22-2009, 09:29 AM
Glow9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Hound

Yes,but a platform designed just for this gpu will perform better.:CTF:

you talking about that AMD option that turns off all useless apps for gaming? Cause thats the only thing I've seen AMD side that will do anything for its GPUs. Even with that I'm not convinced you wouldn't see better performance over an i7 rig. My next rig is most likely a AMD Quad but I'm not going to be in any kinda denial over the hardware it all does what it does.
03-22-2009, 09:41 AM
ColonelCain

Quit the OT discussion. This is not a PII vs. i7 discussion thread. :shakes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

PCGH's early numbers are never spot on, but you can see a nice delta developing on the higher resolutions.

Plus, I want to see this thing clocked.

Perkam

Same.... if this is on the 55nm GT process.... :slobber:
03-22-2009, 10:40 AM
Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.
03-22-2009, 10:46 AM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.

Bo Fox, making predictions as harsh as that before the card is even released is what sends people down the wrong path towards fanboyhood.

Please refrain from making judgements/conclusions until April 6th. This is ATI we're talking about. If the performance is not satisfactory, the price certainly will be.

Lastly, we are overclockers. If you wish to make judgements on stock clocks, go right ahead.

Perkam
03-22-2009, 11:10 AM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Bo Fox, making predictions as harsh as that before the card is even released is what sends people down the wrong path towards fanboyhood.

Please refrain from making judgements/conclusions until April 6th. This is ATI we're talking about. If the performance is not satisfactory, the price certainly will be.

Lastly, we are overclockers. If you wish to make judgements on stock clocks, go right ahead.

Perkam

LOL.. you're sounding like an ATI fanboi right now, big time! :rofl:

Just kidding with ya. I'm just saying that ATI better have a surprise. Like being able to overclock to 1GHz, or actually having 960 shaders/ 48 TMU's at 850MHz. But as you can see, there's already sightings of the 4890 in Hong Kong and Taiwan. We all know that a 4870 overclocked to 850MHz still cannot get anywhere near the GTX 280 (remember, Nvidia cards can also be overclocked).
03-22-2009, 11:16 AM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.

GTX 275 isn't going to be any supercard, its just a cheaper way for Nvidia to replace GTX 280 with a similarly performing card. I'm guessing once the reviews are done 275 will either be on par or slightly faster then the old GTX 280.
03-22-2009, 12:38 PM
eric66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.

pft drama boy :ROTF: wipe floor with gtx 275 haha and how much it will cost to nvidia to price that kinda product same with 4890 ? how it will effect gtx 285 gtx 260 and gtx 280s sales since it will probably faster according to you from both gtx 260 and gtx 280 so that means very close to gtx 285 :ROTF:
03-22-2009, 12:57 PM
RaZz!

but let's be honest: if the current facts are true, the 4890 is really only an "overclocked 4870". we already saw 4870s oc'ed to these specs and it's nothing breath taking. i really ask myself how ati wants to get anywhere near the 280/285gtx with that.

on the other hand i can't believe that ati just clocked the gpu and ram a bit higher (plus some "tweaks", whatever that means...) and releases that as a brand new 4890. i do hope there's more to it than that.
03-22-2009, 01:31 PM
Shadowmage

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaZz!

but let's be honest: if the current facts are true, the 4890 is really only an "overclocked 4870". we already saw 4870s oc'ed to these specs and it's nothing breath taking. i really ask myself how ati wants to get anywhere near the 280/285gtx with that.

According to Beyond3D forums, the die size is slightly larger (based on screenshot compares), which would explain the small IPC increase.

Quote:

on the other hand i can't believe that ati just clocked the gpu and ram a bit higher (plus some "tweaks", whatever that means...) and releases that as a brand new 4890. i do hope there's more to it than that.

Both ATI and NVIDIA have a history of doing this. I really don't see the problem with it, as long as it's a substantial clock boost. Remember the Ultra and Platinum editions?
03-22-2009, 01:44 PM
Solus Corvus

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaZz!

but let's be honest: if the current rumors are true,...

Fixed. Facts are always true.
03-22-2009, 01:47 PM
IvanAndreevich

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.

It won't demolish anything if the 4890 is cheaper.
03-22-2009, 02:38 PM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

UGH, I have a feeling that the GTX 275 would demolish the 4890, since a 633MHz core with 240 shaders is even faster than 65nm GTX 280 at only 600MHz. The memory shouldnt hold it back much at all, since 448-bit gives the same bandwidth as GDDR5 and 896MB is so close to 1GB. I do not think the 4890 would be able to touch either GTX 275 or 280.

ATI better have a surprise up its sleeve, or Nvidia is gonna wipe the floor with the 4890 attached to its mop.

Oh yeah, 900 mb is close to 1 gb. 10% close.
03-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by ownage

There wont be any X2 design from ATI/AMD. But it's possible for perhaps Sapphire to create a X2 if they think there's a market for it.

Why's that? ATI themselves said that was going to be their strategy for HD4800. A HD4890X2 most likely will be released unless ATI runs into som "unexpected issues".

And I really hope its more then just a clock increase, hopefully "RV790" has a better IPC aswell.
03-22-2009, 04:28 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

LOL.. you're sounding like an ATI fanboi right now, big time! :rofl:

Just kidding with ya. I'm just saying that ATI better have a surprise. Like being able to overclock to 1GHz, or actually having 960 shaders/ 48 TMU's at 850MHz. But as you can see, there's already sightings of the 4890 in Hong Kong and Taiwan. We all know that a 4870 overclocked to 850MHz still cannot get anywhere near the GTX 280 (remember, Nvidia cards can also be overclocked).

Well, I've modded this section long enough to know what does and what does not sound like a fanboy, but I will tell you what I've been telling everyone else for 3 weeks now.

Wait for April 6th.

Perkam
03-22-2009, 06:46 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

Oh yeah, 900 mb is close to 1 gb. 10% close.

Yep, and 1GB is 100% greater than 512MB.. go figure.. :p:
03-22-2009, 07:25 PM
Vienna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Why's that? ATI themselves said that was going to be their strategy for HD4800. A HD4890X2 most likely will be released unless ATI runs into som "unexpected issues".

And I really hope its more then just a clock increase, hopefully "RV790" has a better IPC aswell.

a 4890X2 may not be worth it at this point, they may not release one simply for the fact that the r8xx would come soon enough after to make any 4890X2 production line moot.
03-22-2009, 07:55 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vienna

a 4890X2 may not be worth it at this point, they may not release one simply for the fact that the r8xx would come soon enough after to make any 4890X2 production line moot.

Bingo.

But as someone said earlier, Sapphire may make one themselves. Or, if ATI want's to ensure that IF there are any delays with R800, they will be covered; if so, then they will release one.
03-22-2009, 08:34 PM
ranosb

What you all think of this card?

MSI R4870-MD1G Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2r4870-md1g%22
03-22-2009, 09:16 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranosb

What you all think of this card?

MSI R4870-MD1G Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2r4870-md1g%22

Wrong thread m8. Ask that question in the Video Card section in the General Hardware section.

Perkam
03-22-2009, 10:29 PM
onethreehill

RV790/RV740 update

Quote:

RV790, or RV740, are the chips most people are waiting to appear. RV740 has already been previewed and it was made quite clear that it is more than a worthy replacement for the Radeon HD 4830. Even though it was just the slower Radeon HD 4750, and not the faster Radeon HD 4770, we're pretty sure Radeon HD 4830 won't be missed by many. RV790 on the other hand has been widely discussed and since it bears a new name it has also been suggested that it has additional computing power in the form of more shaders and texture units.

Recent benchmarks suggest otherwise though. While the tests do show that the card is 13-20% faster than the current single-GPU flagship, Radeon HD 4870, with only 13% clock increase (750 to 850MHz). This isn't really enough to back up the claims of additional shaders, but instead it has been suggested by sources that the AMD decided to rename the core just because it has been fixed.

Fixed in terms of erratas and better yields, which in turn should make it just a tiny bit faster than RV770, but in theory an even better overclocker and fun card to play with. And then we should not forget that this is just the normal version and that there will be an even faster version at the end of the month. So in summary, RV790 doesn't seem to be very new, but instead a fixed and improved RV770.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8980.html
03-22-2009, 11:26 PM
purefun65

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

RV790/RV740 update

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8980.html

If this is true it's a big dissapointment.Reminds me of the phenom hype.
03-22-2009, 11:28 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by purefun65

If this is true it's a big dissapointment.Reminds me of the phenom hype.

Not even close...
03-22-2009, 11:31 PM
Morais

Whoa WAY off-topic
03-23-2009, 12:03 AM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

RV790/RV740 update

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8980.html

Which benchmarks is nordic talking about?
03-23-2009, 12:07 AM
purefun65

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidReactor

Which benchmarks is nordic talking about?

exactly my point. what is worthy of the hype?
03-23-2009, 01:25 AM
OBR

my second HD 4890 at home! This time ... RETAIL ASUS HD4890 in my hand! Pictures of box at evening when will be at home ..
03-23-2009, 01:31 AM
LiquidReactor

What drivers are you using OBR?
03-23-2009, 01:38 AM
OBR

on CD are Catalyst 9.4 Beta, i will upload them today later
03-23-2009, 03:27 AM
Monkeywoman

1 Attachment(s)

OBR info, take with grains of salt
03-23-2009, 04:14 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by purefun65

If this is true it's a big dissapointment.Reminds me of the phenom hype.

Stop believing everything you read on internet and you won't be disappointed so often ;)
03-23-2009, 08:14 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeywoman

OBR info, take with grains of salt

:rolleyes: that's a lake of salt :ROTF:
03-23-2009, 08:17 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

:rolleyes: that's a lake of salt :ROTF:

I guess I need to post it here too lol. you guys need to know how ridiculous you sound sometimes.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia user

What I learned in Latin classes is that the phrase refers to the practice of paying Roman soldiers in salt; thus, a grain (or a pinch) of salt equivalently means "worthless" and is the rise of other phrases such as "Not worth his salt". The Latin word salt, salus, is from where English derives the word 'salary'. So taking something 'with a grain of salt' essentially means to take something but to afford it little value. Conversely, the somewhat new phrase to take something with a 'BIG grain of salt' is simple nonsense.
03-23-2009, 08:35 AM
Bo_Fox

Even faster version at the end of April?? HD 4895? Or HD 4899? :shrug::ROTF:
03-23-2009, 08:48 AM
ubuntu83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Even faster version at the end of April?? HD 4895? Or HD 4899? :shrug::ROTF:

non reference HD4890.
03-23-2009, 08:49 AM
@@@@

I think the rumors are going out of proportion because looking at the naming scheme RV770 then RV790 there is only a little increase in the chip numbering, which could reflect the performance increase, it is not like the difference in the naming scheme compare to RV870
03-23-2009, 08:54 AM
sxs112

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/...2dfe8167_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/...2c1f4057_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/...a5a6dec0_o.jpg

techpowerup
03-23-2009, 09:00 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

that card looks beautiful.... but matrix are usually late to market. I hope It comes out before the end of april!
03-23-2009, 09:00 AM
@@@@

wow that's a clean layout if people are aiming to volt mod the RV790 that will be one of the best pick
03-23-2009, 09:01 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by @@@@

wow that's a clean layout if people are aiming to volt mod the RV790 that will be one of the best pick

the matrix series doesnt need voltmodding, it has software voltage control via an asus utility (not a hack, a feature)
03-23-2009, 09:05 AM
clonez

that card looks fantastic

VERY clean pcb design:up:
03-23-2009, 09:11 AM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

I guess I need to post it here too lol. you guys need to know how ridiculous you sound sometimes.....

Yeah well, you gotta take whatever wikipedia says with a mountain of salt. :lol:
03-23-2009, 01:30 PM
Cranox

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

my second HD 4890 at home! This time ... RETAIL ASUS HD4890 in my hand! Pictures of box at evening when will be at home ..

Are u at home :)
03-23-2009, 01:38 PM
tenebre

He's at work now. But as soon he can get home he will start the tests. Too bad his home is on the other side of the world and his benches will come to light possibly after the official release. but I'm shure he will do his best :up:
03-23-2009, 01:45 PM
zerazax

black pcb + clean layout = yum
03-23-2009, 01:48 PM
waver_01

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.p...2827&sprache=1

1000mhz!!!

http://www.hardware-infos.com/img/st...e/hd4890_3.jpg
03-23-2009, 01:48 PM
purecain

wondering weather to hold out for the oc edition of the 4890 or weather we will be able to just flash the bios when the oc edition is released.... hmmmmmmm....
03-23-2009, 01:54 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

that card looks beautiful.... but matrix are usually late to market. I hope It comes out before the end of april!

Amen... I think that I might actually go for an asus card this time around...

Imagine what it will be able to do on watercooling... :slobber:
03-23-2009, 02:11 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

Either they are using PhysiX card or that score is fake...
Look at the planes test.:rolleyes:

what are you talking about??? those numbers are completely plausible.....
03-23-2009, 02:26 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by waver_01

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.p...2827&sprache=1

1000mhz!!!

http://www.hardware-infos.com/img/st...e/hd4890_3.jpg

Though I can't confirm this pic, I can say that there is more than one reason to wait for official reviews on April 6th, so please do wait for them.

Perkam
03-23-2009, 03:01 PM
JoeBar

It doesn't matter how many times u tell it. This thread will grow up to 50 pages full of rumors until 6th April arrives... :p:
03-23-2009, 03:02 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

for comparison a i7 940 + 4870 1gig scores only X4124

and a GTX 280 with a 3ghz q9450 (similar CPU score) scores only X4822 http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

:shocked: this card will be a beast
03-23-2009, 03:08 PM
jdhaan

I always love Perkam making us anxcious for the 6th of april. :D

Maybe its his birthday? xD
03-23-2009, 03:11 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

for comparison a i7 940 + 4870 1gig scores only X4124

and a GTX 280 with a 3ghz q9450 (similar CPU score) scores only X4822 http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

:shocked: this card will be a beast

As many times as rumors have been spun about RV790, I would only trust an ORB link. :shrug:
03-23-2009, 03:15 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelCain

As many times as rumors have been spun about RV790, I would only trust an ORB link. :shrug:

In all fairness we should wait until the release date. :D
03-23-2009, 03:26 PM
Manicdan

in all fairness they should sell a few thousand of these before the release at 2x the price, cause theres gotta be some people who will pay a premium just to say they were the first

if you go into the links and to the original forum they have a few more benchmarks

clocks/ram: gpu score

stock 850/975: 4386
925/1025: 4906
950/1075: 5068
1000/1125: 5334

cpu score was ~10500 for all tests except the last where it was 11373. im not sure if that scaling is way too fast for the small increases in mhz
03-23-2009, 03:41 PM
ILikeCosmosS

which do u think will clock higher and reach 1ghz core clock a 4890x2 or 2 4890s ?
03-23-2009, 03:46 PM
Kensek

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS

which do u think will clock higher and reach 1ghz core clock a 4890x2 or 2 4890s ?

I'd go with 2 4890s XFired, rather than 1 4890X2.

My 2 HD4870's XFrd could OC to 880/1100 and blew away a single HD4870X2 since it could only do 862/1025.
03-23-2009, 04:42 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

In all fairness we should wait until the release date. :D

Indeed, we should. Though, for some reason I thought that this thursday was the 9th, until my calender burst my bubble. :lol:
03-23-2009, 06:08 PM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/...2dfe8167_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/...2c1f4057_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/...a5a6dec0_o.jpg

techpowerup

bodacious

gimmy 4890+2gb now!
03-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Glow9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

in all fairness they should sell a few thousand of these before the release at 2x the price, cause theres gotta be some people who will pay a premium just to say they were the first

if you go into the links and to the original forum they have a few more benchmarks

clocks/ram: gpu score

stock 850/975: 4386

Wait the stock ones are only coming out with 50 more than current 4870s?
03-23-2009, 07:21 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

bodacious

gimmy 4890+2gb now!

The Asus Non Reference card is 6+8 pin ;)

Perkam
03-23-2009, 07:31 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow9

Wait the stock ones are only coming out with 50 more than current 4870s?

100Mhz.
03-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Glow9

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidReactor

100Mhz.

Whats the selling point then? extra shaders or what?
03-23-2009, 08:12 PM
zerazax

Internal improvements
03-23-2009, 10:08 PM
OBR

sorry for delaying photos, i waiting for permission of ASUS

But some new info:

I have complete PDF slides for new graphic cards ... dont ask me for publish anything!

proof:
http://i40.tinypic.com/358z6dt.png

1. Spec are : 55nm RV790, 800 SP, 850/3900MHz, Power consuption in 2D is better then 4870, in 3D os higher (no internal improvements RBEs, ROPs, SPs)

2. Layout change of PCB is not because more SP or higher Performance, but new Power savings profiles ... card is really cool in 2D

3. You can OC every card to 1 GHz on GPU, and you can to change Voltage too! ! !

Pics today
03-23-2009, 10:19 PM
eric66

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

sorry for delaying photos, i waiting for permission of ASUS

But some new info:

I have complete PDF slides for new graphic cards ... dont ask me for publish anything!

proof:
http://i40.tinypic.com/358z6dt.png

1. Spec are : 55nm RV790, 800 SP, 850/3900MHz, Power consuption in 2D is better then 4870, in 3D os higher (no internal improvements RBEs, ROPs, SPs)

2. Layout change of PCB is not because more SP or higher Performance, but new Power savings profiles ... card is really cool in 2D

3. You can OC every card to 1 GHz on GPU, and you can to change Voltage too! ! !

Pics today

loved last improvement by the way is world coming to an end cause obr gave us some useful info about amd :ROTF:
03-23-2009, 10:52 PM
OBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

loved last improvement by the way is world coming to an end cause obr gave us some useful info about amd :ROTF:

hehe, but you can change voltage in CCC! hehehe
03-23-2009, 11:13 PM
eric66

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

hehe, but you can change voltage in CCC! hehehe

thats cool do you have any other info how do you compare this new card to gtx 280 and 285 is it close with oc ?
03-23-2009, 11:30 PM
onethreehill

AMD Radeon HD4890 priced at £230 @Novatech.co.uk

Quote:

Following pictures of the GPU, a look at its specification, and pre-order listings down in New Zealand, we've now been dealt an even bigger hint suggesting that AMD's Radeon HD 4890 is imminent.

Novatech.co.uk, a UK-based etailer, is listing PowerColor's Radeon HD 4890 1GB with a price tag of £229.99. That's around £50 more than PowerColor's Radeon HD 4870 1GB, and pretty much what we were expecting in terms of pricing.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/news/amd/novatech-4890.jpg

What's interesting is that Novatech claims to have 100 of the cards arriving tomorrow, presumably in the hope of fulfilling orders sooner rather than later.

However, we've been expecting the card to arrive sometime in April, so we're putting this down as an error on Novatech's part, for now. Either way, AMD's Radeon HD 4890 is just around the corner, and it's very likely to be priced around the £230 mark.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=17721

<<Nice looking items arrived in Novatech warehouse>>
http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?p=81837
03-24-2009, 01:13 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

what are you talking about??? those numbers are completely plausible.....

You're right! Massive brain fart on my part :(

It clearly shows that Vantage is not my favorite benchmark.
03-24-2009, 05:25 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

hehe, but you can change voltage in CCC! hehehe

about time, since you can tweak so much on your mobo and nothing on your gfx card. Also, voltage options are incomplet with no vram voltage adjustment. :D
03-24-2009, 05:34 AM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

1. Spec are : 55nm RV790, 800 SP, 850/3900MHz, Power consuption in 2D is better then 4870, in 3D os higher (no internal improvements RBEs, ROPs, SPs)

More proof please...Just b/c it says 800 shaders / 40 Tmus doesn't mean anything.
03-24-2009, 05:38 AM
ToTTenTranz

At 1Ghz, the HD4890 seems to have almost the same performance as a HD4850X2.

If every card reaches 1Ghz, I'll get one for sure. I wonder how it'll behave with an Accelero S1 + 2*120mm fans. AFAIK, there's no better GPU air-cooling solution to date.
03-24-2009, 06:04 AM
Nomadsoul

how do you compare this new card to GTX 285 ?
03-24-2009, 06:05 AM
Cranox

Are the mounting holes around the gpu the same as the HD2900XT ? Coz i got a D-Tek FuZion GFX Block.
03-24-2009, 06:07 AM
Tuvok-LuR-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomadsoul

how do you compare this new card to GTX 285 ?

I guess an oced 4890 should be pretty close to GTX285, however no one can tell yet
03-24-2009, 06:09 AM
ToTTenTranz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomadsoul

how do you compare this new card to GTX 285 ?

@ default speeds it's slower for sure.
If all cards overclock like crazy, it should have about the same speed.
03-24-2009, 06:27 AM
Manicdan

if it can overclock so high, then i hope we see OC versions sold at 950mhz for enthuzisnt
03-24-2009, 07:55 AM
MaDuLo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

if it can overclock so high, then i hope we see OC versions sold at 950mhz for enthuzisnt

maybe should behave in the same way as Nvidia
let partners ship the OC versions first, only spread reviews with OC versions, and half a month later ship the standard hyped up product :rofl:
03-24-2009, 08:01 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

this is interesting... Because AMD is shipping a card that may easily clock 150mhz higher than stock, yet they are not pricing it accordingly in an effort to be ultra competetive. the gtx275 is gonna have to be a 285in reality since its all but confirmed that this card OCed to 1000mhz beats a gtx 280 @ high res.
03-24-2009, 08:20 AM
OBR

Radeon HD 4890 will be launched before 6.4! ! !

in few days!
03-24-2009, 08:28 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

Radeon HD 4890 will be launched before 6.4! ! !

I think you mean after ;)
03-24-2009, 08:42 AM
OBR

NO!

is not 9.4 .... neither 6.4 ... it is - :) soonest then expected!
03-24-2009, 08:45 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

I think you mean after ;)

Well, for once I would like to believe OBR :p:
But so far everyone else is hinting 09/04 as a launch date.

Stock is already in UK and quantities are good, very good according to Gibbo from NovaTech. Also OCuk hints cards are in stock, just waiting for NDA lift.
03-24-2009, 08:47 AM
OBR

will see kiddo in few hours ...
03-24-2009, 08:55 AM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

will see kiddo in few hours ...

:eek:

Binoculars at the ready !! --> http://www.amd.com/us-en/ <--

ATI could be trying to one up the launch on Nvidia as it really is unexpected, but there is truth to OBR's statements seeing as Novatech is receiving a batch of 100 cards very soon and usually, when the cards hit the shelves, the numbers hit the web :)

But I'd still wait for official launch, whenever the heck it is now.

Perkam
03-24-2009, 09:18 AM
purefun65

I am still skeptical of these supposed tweaks to the core.:rolleyes:
03-24-2009, 11:09 AM
Glow9

So you're essentially buying a 4870 with better power consumption. Wow I hate refreshes.
03-24-2009, 11:15 AM
ToTTenTranz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow9

So you're essentially buying a 4870 with better power consumption. Wow I hate refreshes.

Who said that? Shintai?
03-24-2009, 11:23 AM
marten_larsson

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Who said that? Shintai?

Nope, he said it would actually be more power hungry than 4870 :)

Well, it's only two more weeks now..
03-24-2009, 11:28 AM
Glow9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Who said that? Shintai?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

sorry for delaying photos, i waiting for permission of ASUS

But some new info:

I have complete PDF slides for new graphic cards ... dont ask me for publish anything!

proof:
http://i40.tinypic.com/358z6dt.png

1. Spec are : 55nm RV790, 800 SP, 850/3900MHz, Power consuption in 2D is better then 4870, in 3D os higher (no internal improvements RBEs, ROPs, SPs)

2. Layout change of PCB is not because more SP or higher Performance, but new Power savings profiles ... card is really cool in 2D

3. You can OC every card to 1 GHz on GPU, and you can to change Voltage too! ! !

Pics today

This
03-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Nomadsoul

:mad: my 4870 Toxic is 780/1000 stock, and 24/7 stable @ 860/1200. So I wont gain anything. :down: No radical improvement, its like 8800GTS 512 to 9800 GTX, just power circuitry changes etc, redesign PCB and call it new card, demand 100$ more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow9

So you're essentially buying a 4870 with better power consumption. Wow I hate refreshes.
03-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Vit^pr0n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glow9

This

So a 100mhz increase to the core, with a supposed 900-950MHZ oc edition and possible 1000mhz OC is a refresh? :rofl:

A normal 4870 would not reach these speeds without serious cooling or modding. Also, atleast ATi didn't name this a 5870, and instead named it accordingly. :up:

Oh and.. first post? :clap:
03-24-2009, 11:42 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

hehe, but you can change voltage in CCC! hehehe

Ok, voltage changes within CCC has my attention :eek:
03-24-2009, 11:50 AM
zerazax

1Ghz on air is nice

1.1 on water?

These in CF with LN2 and we might see some serious power here
03-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Manicdan

was 1ghz the max only cause thats the cap in CCC? what could be done using a third party OC tool?

this might be enough of a card to get me to upgrade, but i have to see production reviews first
03-24-2009, 12:02 PM
Glow9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vit^pr0n

So a 100mhz increase to the core, with a supposed 900-950MHZ oc edition and possible 1000mhz OC is a refresh? :rofl:

A normal 4870 would not reach these speeds without serious cooling or modding. Also, atleast ATi didn't name this a 5870, and instead named it accordingly. :up:

Oh and.. first post? :clap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomadsoul

:mad: my 4870 Toxic is 780/1000 stock, and 24/7 stable @ 860/1200. So I wont gain anything. :down: No radical improvement, its like 8800GTS 512 to 9800 GTX, just power circuitry changes etc, redesign PCB and call it new card, demand 100$ more.

He has 75 take a lesson.

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