Try putting cores 0-1-3 @ -2% in ACC, then Core 2 @ +0%. And use hybrid ACC.
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Try putting cores 0-1-3 @ -2% in ACC, then Core 2 @ +0%. And use hybrid ACC.
Try this..My 550 would be unstable if i did not ADD NBvid to 1.32v for up to 2600nb...Quote:
Originally Posted by BADFISH
Set BIOS like this...F9 and F10A make shure it looks like this and then set the NBvid to 1.32v-1.35v for any NB up to about 2800nb .. ADD more NBvid if going above 2800...550's seem to max around 2800nb with High CPU clocks because of the IMC.
F!0A...SET the NBVID@1.32v for starters and SB and NBchip set to 1.3v for 24/7.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...iosUD4P002.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...iosUD4P001.jpg
This will set -2 for all cores in Auto... Make shure Both Hybrid and Cores are Auto..If not the Bios can make the Unlock reset or the CPU unstable.
Note: You can try giving that Core More Volts buy using 0 or +2... Auto Usually works the Best for Unlocking ..Ive pushed all three Chips to 4000mhz on X4cores with the 720 being the weakest with only 2400nb. This Mobo needs 1.32vNBvid for Stock to2600NB while using 720/550 and yes even 555 to remain Stable while using DDR2 ... The DDR2 IMC is weaker than the DDR3 IMC on Most of these CHips.
Default NBvid for any of those three chips on this Mobo and XT-UD4P is @1.17volts on NBvid...
That is too low when Clocking CPU even sometime @ Stock CPU Multi's...Ive tested Many 550/555 on this Mobo and that is what ive found.
Stock NBvid has never set 1.2v on This Mobo ,which in return is needed for those chips and More if the NB is above 2400mhz while unlocked.
Have fun,,
gOtVoltage
I have a 790FXTA-UD4...
And I just installed a 1090T on it.
Now maybe I installed it wrong, because when I start the system, the screen just stay with the welcome gigabyte screen...
It doesn't do anything else. I can't go in the bios...
What's up? Thanks
It's because you need to update the BIOS first with a different, supported cpu, then swap out after. I had the same issue on my mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
YEAH... except I ain't got one.
Can I update the bios with an USB key?
Or a floppy disk?
Or do I really need another CPU?
EDIT : Now this pisses me off. Every single freaking time I change something in the bios, it just freezes. And I have to restart... And it reboots and reboots and reboots. Every time after I have to remove the video card to clear CMOS.
This whole thing makes me sick. I can't take it anymore! I want it to work!
Can't you just put a screw driver near the cmos battery jumpers? Oh wait, my 8800GT is in the bottom slot. Nope, my mobo wouldn't even let me get into BIOS, piece of crap ;). It just kept freezing at the Gigabyte logo.
Yeah now it just won't go in the bios no more.
I'm pissed. I need to find a freaking Am2-Am3 cpu...I don't think anyone I know has one. :mad:
I'll have to go to the computer repair shop and they gonna charge me the motherload. :down:
I'm sure your mobo isn't dead, it's just not compatible with the Thuban right now without a BIOS update.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
It aint dead :DQuote:
Originally Posted by richierich
Set up a USB Stick with the Newest BIos..
Make shure the Stick is Plugged in before turning on PC...
When you boot Press F9(For Boot ORDER) instead of going into Bios...
Make shure its set to Boot USB HDD..
Once you Press this Option It should Auto Flash the Mobo ..
When done Reboot &Clear CMOS.. You should then be good to go...
I have done this a few times when a Agesa update was needed" using Unsupported Bioses".
You can usually do this if you are able to See a Bios Menu.
Sometimes it works sometimes it dont..
Pretty Shure its F9 for boot menu. Do it as fast as you can .You only have about the same time it takes for the Bios to freeze ..It can be done.
Or borrow a friends X2 or X4 CPU:p:
Wait go to Fry's and test a new PHII X2 or AthlonXII Or Sempron. Then you have a Back up chip. You only Need a Cheap one to do it.
Thanks for the advice but now I can't go in the bios..or change the boot sequence.
It eithers freeze, or reboot. It ain't working.
I'm gonna go cry now.
Hi,
Today I also updated my CPU, X6 1055T (batch 1014EPAW) and flashed F8c BIOS for the 790XT-UD4P. I do not have that wait period during POST (it boots fast just like my previous AII X4 620) but it's strange that the default core for CPU is 1.475V in BIOS.
So, I didn't touch VCore at all, just put NB and HTT Vcore@1.2V. I raised the bus to 250MHz (for a 14x250=3500MHz) and memory to DDR3-1667 CAS7. (disabled C1E, C&Q and Turbo)
I'm using win7 32bit (have some devices without proper 64bit drivers) and the system runs fine. Coretemp 0.99.6 and CPU-Z detect 1.425V as a CPU Vcore but C1E is definitely not disabled cause CPU is changing it's clocks all the time. So I guess next BIOS releases will probably deal with that power management more successful.
Temperatures are fine with this setup, 29C idle, 41C load.(Crysis)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/214...3600mhz.th.jpg
System:
Phenom II x6 1055T@3500MHz NB@2500MHz 1.475V (not 100% sure)
2X2GB Geil DDR3-2133@1.65V 1667 CAS7
Xigmatek Thor's Hammer with XL1253@1500rpm
GA-790XT-UD4P F8c
MSI GTX 470
X-Fi XMusic PCI
2X SiliconPower 32GB SSD
Corsair TX850W
Xigmatek Midgard with NZXT SentryLX + 5 XL1253 fans@1000rpm
Update : I tried to flash... It started flashing... saying firmware update, don't reset or close your computer...
Then it rebooted by itself without any kind of message... when it rebooted it said it was still on the previous bios...
Did it crash before finishing the update?
looks like it crashed. It's not supposed to reboot unless you hit escape.Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
Its still not dead...Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
It may be setting too high of voltage to keep stable during the Flash..
try Clear CMOS and see if you can Flash One more time...
The Back up Bios can not be written too ( To Protect against Bad Flashes)so you wont ruin it...If the Main flash goes bad..
Worst Case , Buy one of these or x2 or X4 to flash it.
Having a spare Chip is Priceless. $33 dollars Sempron AM3/AM2 45nm..2700mhz..
http://www.frys.com/product/6006428?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
I have an ma790xt-ud4p, and just flashed it to f8c before pulling my 965be c3.
Just to clarify, the core temps are reading 10-12 low?
Can we disable turbo with this bios?
@richierich (or others with the same stepping), how did you make out with your 1013cpcw stepping 1055T? I picked one up, just trying to learn if it's a decent stepping before I decide to a) install it now, b) install it Monday when my seasonic md12, 3X120 rad and Swiftech XT arrive, or c) since it's unopened, try for a better stepping.
Thanks all
Edit: I meant to add, anyone else still having keyboard probs in bios screen? I'll try the usb port closest to the ps/2 keyboard socket, and fall back to an old ps/2 if I can did one up. Sure is annoying, seems like it works about 10 percent of the time.
Hey Grinder I haven't really gotten a chance to push the 1013CPCW since it's just in a 2ndary build (was supposed to be only a budget file server, there goes that idea, lol) with a weak mobo + integrated graphics.
Yeah, that's what I figured. I know stepping isn't a hard and fast rule, and there is limited data yet, but I thought I'd ask just the same. I did get the impression that that particular stepping wanted a little more volts at a given speed, but I've only found a handful of references to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
What about the 790XT, are you oc'ing with turbo on your primary build? I'll be interested in a comparison if you are upgrading the mobo (thought I read that somewhere lol, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee :) )
Anyway, thanks for the quick response. Must be kind of early for you in CA. It's early for me for a Sat, and I'm on Atlantic Daylight time lol.
I had that keyboard issue often when I build this MA790XT-UD4P system almost a year ago with BIOS F4 but since then and now with F8c it worked without problems. I'm plugging my Sidewinder X6 in a USB port below green PS/2 (near coaxial s/pdif) not purple. See if that helps you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder
I also have the keyboard issue from time to time on my 790X-UD4P. I find it happens more when I have AHCI enabled. When in IDE mode, I don't ever have a problem. Sometimes it gets really bad and just basically never works after a bunch of restarts trying to get into BIOS. Worst case scenario, I have to fall back on a PS/2 keyboard. Really annoying.
I'll give that a try, thanks. That started happening after I did some high HTref runs, around 350. But I think I flashed F6 around the same time, so I'm not sure which it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by kull
I still have the 1055t sitting here in the box. :rolleyes: I'm trying to decide whether to give it a run with my old swiftech socket A waterblock and homemade bracket :rofl: Or just wait two days for the XT, larger rad and ps, since I plan to make some changes to my loop then anyways. By then I might know more about the 1013cpcw, but it's getting awful tempting to open the box. Problem is I have a lot of stuff to do around the house too.
Edit: I had my choice made for me, fried my video card while popping ramsinks off of it (and popped a ram chip). When I order new parts and get sorted out, I'll update my results with the bios.
I feel your pain! I had to root around at work to find an old keyboard, since I had finally thrown the few that I had out. Not that I want to break it out every time I change a bios setting :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ASharp
So I finally found a Sempron...but it's a 3800+ AM2, which is not supported on the official CPU supported list... should I give it a try?
Yeah forget about it seems it doesn't have the same number of pins...
Nope won't work unfortunately. No AM3 Sempron 140s?
I can't find one... I would have to order one but it would cost me around 45$... we'll see.
dang that sucks
I finally got this system built. I'm still dialing it in, but so far I have it prime blend stable at 4050 @ 1.5v, no turbo, 300 HTRef to get my ram to 1600.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
That seems to have done the trick, at least so far. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by kull
See above, I managed to avoid the ps/2 keyboard so far :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ASharp
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
Hey long time no post in this forum
Today I recieved the MA790XT-udp4 which I bought second hand it came with bios F6 , I also bought a 1055T , when I put the system together it wouldn]t even boot , seem like the board was dead or the psu , after a bios reset it started booting but a completly unstable system , anything usb connected made it reboot ,nothing worked but it seemed stable inside the bios menu
cutting it short I solved the problem updating the bios like advised by some users here (thanks to them ) without compatible cpu
all you need is floppy drive and a good floppy disk with the bios F8
with the bios at setup defaults , with nothing connected but the floppy disk , go in to the bios menu , then press F8 , and update the bios with q-flash utility so you dont need a compatible cpu with the older bios to update
Finally I bought a Sempron 140 at 33$... and I updated the bios to F3... All is working... except the bios doesn't recognize my IDE HDD... What the hell?
I have Windows 7 x64 installed... Thanks for any help.
F8e BIOS will be out 30 min time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitchilo
Make shure the Jumper on HD is set to Master Not cable select....
Make shure HD is set as Primary HD device to boot in Bios.
If Installing a Fresh OS ,, Format it first if you dont need any data off it. That means a Full Erase/Format and set as a NT:D
Make Shure Bios Can detect it.. Just Go into Bios and perform the HD Auto detect in Main Page..It should be able to show Large and how many sectors it has.
If not you may have a bad/Loose IDE cable or even the Drive can be Fubared if its a used old Benching IDE HD:D.
Try this if all above is OK
Boot from Win7 CD and Perform Repair MBR(Master Boot Record). Even a Wester Digital Lifegaurd tools can do this as well as Seagates MaxBlast.
Usually this is what keeps one from starting Windows when swappining a drive. You May have Bad Drivers left over from the other System too..
yummy new BIOS F8e, hopefully this works out some of the F8c bugs.
Cool so it looks like Gigabyte has finally disabled CnQ. Now to see if I can figure out a way to work Turbo in with my overclock.
Can a BIOS update really allow me to bootup with HTT past 316 now? I'm currently trying to get my system prime95 blend stable at 12x333, but it's been tough. My system wouldn't even post when I would try anything past 316 HTT before this new BIOS update.
this helped me alot, still cant get it to let me clock great with 4 sticks of ram, but at least i got it stable at 3.5+ with ram at 1666 range.
this bios dosnt play nice with Amd Overdrive tweaks, just a warrning, sometimes when you change settings using AOD it will boost the cpu volts to 1.6+(no joke)
so far turbo has worked out well for me, it boosts all 6 cores(0-5) when under real load 4-4.1gz and back down to 3.5-3.6 range when doing normal desktop stuff :)
I was able to go above 350 with F6 on my 965BE in some tests in Simon's C3 thread. With F8C I am running 308 day to day on a 1055T in order to clock the ram near 1600+. I'll probably hold off on the latest for now if it's cranky with AOD as AzureSky indicates below.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzureSky
Have any of you noticed any stability problems with the NB multiplier on 7x or 8x?
I was on the DDR2 variant but I do think I remembered problems with 8x on my board. 6-7 was okay and 9 was too.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
Is it possible that my current cpu (720be) is limiting the HT of my motherboard (ma790xt ud4p) ?
Even with the lowest possible multiplier for the cpu/nbcpu/htt and lowest divider for memory, anything above 266 will freeze at POST and anything above 264 will be unstable in windows.
So yeah, is the weak part here the cpu or the motherboard ?
Hi Stasio: Any updates available for 790X-UD4P? I am running F10A and it is OK but having issues with Turbo core and CNQ. Board still downclocks with both these options disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Probably soon.
See what happens when you set the Bios Up Using HYBRID MODE on AUTO..Quote:
Originally Posted by p4spooky
Ive found on the UD4P DDR2 mobo that the Bioses work best in hybrid on X4's and Most X2's..
this very well may be the same for Thurban..
If i had a thurb ,, id test it for ya:shakes:
Ive found the 10A to be the Highest HTT clocking Bios for 790x UD4P .So far with my 555 i ran it up to 290+htt before getting Raid corruption.. Any other Bios it was limited to around 270 max while using Raid.
thanks stasio, love the support on this board.
Hey guys,
I have this GA-MA790XT-UD4P M/B with 4GB of the OCZ3P16004GK @1333Mhz and a Phenom II X3 720. The fact is that I only have the system stable if I set the CPU-NB VID at 1.30V and the NB VID at +0.1V. From what I read over the internet it seems a common problem for the users with the RB-C2 processor version. I would like to use my system at the stock voltages, and my question is will I see a significant improvement in stability if I change my processor to the RB-C3 Phenom II X4 955? Or should I change my RAM to a more compatible one? Do you have suggestions on 4GB kits for this M/B?
Yes, some C2's even have problems with 1333.
Just another question: what is this cold boot issue with this mobo? I'm asking this, because any version of the F8 beta bios I have random freezes when starting windows, and they always occur from a cold boot. The F7 seems to be much more stable.
I noticed I have cold boot issues if I don't bump up my cpu-nb voltage high enough.........2600MHz needs 1.2 to 1.275v depending, 2800MHz needs 1.3-1.35v, etc...Just what I've noticed for my own mobo.
I noticed this also. The differenc is that depénding on the BIOS version this bump in the CPU-NB voltage must be higher. I'm not overclocking my HTT only the CPU to 3200Mhz. With F7 bios, if I bump only +0.050V in the CPU-NB, it is perfectly stable. With all the F8 beta bioses I need +0.100V at least and +0.1V in the Northbridge voltage. Also the F8F does not give an option to disable USB Mouse Support what if I disable improves a lot the stability of my system. I think that most of these M/B problems are BIOS related.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
Anyway, I've ordered a new set of low voltage Corsair memory (TW3X4G1333C9A) to replace my OCZ ones (OCZ3P16004GK). They are rated 1.9V while the Corsair ones are 1.5V. I've read that low voltage memories improves stability in AMD AM3 systems, so I hope to improve it..
I don't think it does, maybe in X6, but not with quads like mine. I can run DDR2 @ 2.4v with no problem as well as DDR3 @ 2.3v without issue. Micron D9 GTS ftw.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychogmv
Well, my new memory arrived and I installed it. The system is rock stable now! I don't have to overvolt the NB anylonger even with the F8F bios.
Now I'm overclocking my Phenom II X3 720 BE with K10STAT to 3200Mhz with stock voltages for CPU and CPU-NB. The idle I was able even to undervolt the CPU to 0.95V and CPU-NB to 1.10V that it is still completely stable.
I recommend big time this TW3X4G1333C9A kit from Corsair to pair with this motherboard. For who wants a cost effective solution it is great. Timings are 9-9-9-24 1T and Vdimm 1.60V (it is the lowest my M/B accepts).
From what I've read over the internet, definitely the OCZ platinum memories are not so good for AM3 setups and C2 Phenoms, at least the ones with higher Vdimm rating.
at the end of the day, its still a garbage board ehh? bogged down with problems.
I'm running BIOS F8 on my 965BE @ 4.1 Ghz as I speak without any problem whatsoever. The DDR2 variant at 1066 CAS 4-4-4-5 that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
It's not garbage. :ROTF:
Not at all, I love mine. It takes all the abuse I throw at it and comes back for more. Including >350 htt runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
:shakes:
Dont worry, thats sort of how DosDuoNo looks at everything...:lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder
Well, I'm loving mine. All the trouble I had was due to the crappy memory I bought! Other than that, it is just perfect!Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
A crosshair iv would be nice, but costs >3 times what I paid...
I'll probably keep it until Bulldozer and am3+.
Seconded. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder
at least i dont hand out second advise thats incorrect :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
thisQuote:
Originally Posted by psychogmv
the board is garbage and many issues with many differant makes and brands of memory. a good board in my opinion doesnt need a tight QVL on memory :up:
First I'm not overclocking my sys. at the moment but every time I install ET6 start it show my 7850 @2800 then it will change to 1431. I have the same problem with CPUz 1.55 and below. when I reboot sys. and go into bios it show my CPU @ 2800. I have all my settings in bios at auto. I've change the settings in ET6 to reflect what my CPU should be (2800) save the settings reboot with the same results. It'll show 2800 then revert back to 1431 after a few seconds. This happens in both Win XP 32 bit and Win7 64 bit. With out and with both programs installed my system is stable. I should mention that I didn't have this problem under Win XP 64bit. An yes ET6 is the newest release.
Cool 'N Quiet perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by jrealing
richierich
I checked it out and NO! But it had me checking it out. Very good question. Thanks for the reply, it real would have been the very last thing I would have check or I might not have thought about it at all.
I've run Elpida, Promos, and Micron D9 in this board without any compatibility issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
Start listing what else is wrong with this board before you start some tasty flamebait.
You do own one of these, correct? The board retailed for $120, what were you expecting?
Update for my problem with ET6/CPUZ reporting my CPU at half (1431 and not 2800). I wasn't aware of win7 having power setting. It was set to achieving best power consumption. I turned it on for performance. Now both programs show the proper speed. Now I've set it to run at 3000. Now I'll check out WinXP 32 bit. I'm sure it has the same problem.
Has any one tryed the Phenom ll 560 BE on this board, if so what memory did you use and what is the highest you've been able to oc? I've seen it go for $75.00 at Fry's. Thats $3.00 less then what I payed for my Athlon 7850 BE.
anyone else have the all blue version of this ddr3 board GA-MA-790X-UD4P
Also has anyone here hit ddr3 1800+ on their ram
and runs at the recommended timing withe the newest bios
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226120
Guys, just for the record, I bought a Phenom II X4 965 stepping C3 for my system, and now it is rock stable. I've had no cold boot lockups anymore. I'm with BIOS version F8G. Seems like the fixed memory controller indeed improves stabillity in this motherboard.
The only weird thing that I noticed is that the BIOS set the CPU VID as 1.325V as default, but this processor is rated for 1.37V. I manually set it at 1.35V without issues.
The only drawback with this processor is that it consumes a lot of power as compared to my previous 720BE.
UPDATE: Forget what I said. I had a lock up in a cold boot yesterday. I've upped the CPU N/B VID +0.025V and it didn't occur again. Let's see. But it seems that this M/B is poorly designed. Too bad, because it seemed to be a good choice... :(
Just got the 555 BE on Sunday, unlocked it on Sunday and its be running fine. I really haven't had time to very much overclocking. But I did up the multiplier from 16 to 17.5 hit 3500 with out any problems. Ran prima95 for two hours with out a problems. I have a Corsair H50 cooler and my CPU didn't
even get over 32C. with load. The only question I might have is about ACC.
and what the % has to do with the unlocking of the cores. What effects it will have. Right now BIOS set tham all to 2%.
Anyone running 2X4GB DDR3 with a MA790XT-UD4P?
I've been running 2X2GB F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws with my 1055T at 1642 7-7-7-20-27 1T 90ms 5 for most others (308 with 3/8 mem divider, since the 1600 divider is problematic) completely stable, CPU@4004 and IMC @ around 2800 IIRC (at work ATM).
I bought a set of 2X4GB F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH Ripjaws, but they won't post at that speed. Even relaxing timings to 9-9-9 will post but not boot windows.
I'll take another run at it tonight, but trying to decide if I need to RMA (and eat shipping) or if it is a limit of the mobo, ram, or IMC. There is a thread on these sticks in extreme bandwidth where chew* has decent results, but with a CHIV formula. I may try the GSKILL forum as well, but I know they'll whine about weak AMD IMC's.
Will also try upping IMC volts a tad when I get home.
I don't think this board is going to run this particular set to well, or any 790 board for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder
Any non 2.1 giga 890 board will have issues as well.
Boards needed a complete hardware rev to support "newer modules" ;)
Thanks chew*. Hmmm, new chiv :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Does anyone know what the defalult 790x/750sb volts are for the HT, NB and SB ? I believe they are 1.1, 1.2, 1.2 respectively.
Thanks !
Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
I think your both crazy this board rocks if set up correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Try booting over DDR3-1800.
My ASUS board boots up to 1935 on my Deneb CPU...1780 on the Gigabyte 890GX Rev 1.0 board
and how is that relevant to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Read Grinders post again as well as chew*'s and DosDuoNo's.
Rev 2.1 boards are the boards that do DDR3-2000+, Gigabyte had serious ram compatibility problems.
You obviously have no idea how much experience chew* has with Gigabyte as well.
I've owned the 790X-UD4P as well as the 890GX-UD3H Rev 1.0 and both aren't great with ram. The 890GX-UD3H Rev 2.1 would do what my ASUS board does in my case.
No need to troll others ;)
And everyone knows Deneb can't do 4.2 stable on 1.45v, especially an unlocked CPU. Can it validate at that speed? Sure, easily. Will it get past Prime95/LinX? No more than 30 seconds. You seem to be fudging numbers just a little bit there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
and you know how much experience I have then?
Really have a look. It can't be done well your wrong look again. is a 9hr+ prime okay and no Trolling was done here there is zero wrong with this board. Also this is a 555x2 with 2 cores unlocked or a B55x4 using Air cooling. It is also inside my case but it says open because the side panel sensor is not connected to the board. The only person who doesn't know what they are talking about here is you have great day.
http://img.techpowerup.org/101206/555x2 .1.jpg
FYI thought you might like this aswell , added it as a after thought 4.1ghz+ at 1.4v. Look close you will see Deneb. It's only a 4+ hour prime (got bored) but you get the point)
http://img.techpowerup.org/101206/4.1 crop.jpg
My MA790XT-UD4P was a great board, especially for the price. It wouldn't run my 2X2GB kit of Ripjaws @ spec with the 1600 multiplier. If you look at the description of memory support for the board, it says support for 1333, support for 1600 (OC). So I dropped to the 1333 multiplier, cranked the ref clock, and got 1666 777 1T out of my inexpensive ram kit on an inexpensive mobo, and then I cranked it up to over 350 for one of Simon's fixed multiplier challenges.
However I can't make it work with my new 2X4GB kit. I'll post back to let you know if the ram does work well on a different board (C4F coming), or was defective.
I'm still curious if anyone has used 8GB at speed on this board. And I still like the board :clap:
trt740, why would you call me a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana::banana: through PM?
I do see that you have a (big) gem CPU now of course, but sheesh, don't need to bold everything and make it seem like you are god or something.
Oh look, I have a huge epeen. Oh look, I can tell other people they don't know anything. Oh look, I can call others :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana::banana:s...Quote:
and you know how much experience I have then?
Really have a look. It can't be done well your wrong look again. is a 9hr+ prime okay and no Trolling was done here there is zero wrong with this board. Also this is a 555x2 with 2 cores unlocked or a B55x4 using Air cooling. It is also inside my case but it says open because the side panel sensor is not connected to the board. The only person who doesn't know what they are talking about here is you have great day.
FYI thought you might like this aswell , added it as a after thought 4.1ghz+ at 1.4v. Look close you will see Deneb. It's only a 4+ hour prime (got bored) but you get the point)
I wasn't trying to be rude to you in that post, but "asking me what relevance my post had to the thread when you clearly saw the posts above me made no sense.
If you put thuban or even deneb for example in these boards ram clocking is severely hampered. That's what I said and all I said...and all other people said.
I never called you anything using profanity, but again I believe a private message is exactly that. Also I seem to recall you were the one who said I didn't know what I was talking about and that I was fudging my overclocking with this motherboard. It seems you are in need of a public argument and I'm really not interested. Did you notice I did the impossible. An expert such as yourself would have picked up on that I'm sure. Please stop the flame baiting, lets stay on topic and lets move on now that the impossible has been accomplished. :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Well, I mean you told me I have no idea what I'm talking about trying to flame me then you go to telling me I'm an expert...? (Followed by "quit the flamebait?") What did you expect me to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
Private message is private because you didn't want to call me a d*ckhead in public.
I owned the DDR2 variant of this board and it was good. DDR2 board limit at 1233 but it was good.
My 890GX board sucked at clocking ram though and I'm sure these boards do to. All of those boards had an 1880 limit...extended a little with Thuban. But it didn't change the fact that Gigabyte had to redesign the board to get compatibility right.
...and doing the impossible? Your CPU is fabulous, you got extremely lucky. I'd say no more than 1 out of 100 CPU's would do that. Congrats.
Again I never called you that. However, if you wish to infer that, thats your right to, now move on.This is getting old. Oh also I had a X6 1090T that did 4.1ghz at 1.425v with a 3000+ N/B so again your wrong the X6 chips work fine in these boards. You just need to know how to set them up correctly. I did have a second 1090T that did 4.0ghz at 1.425v with 250 FSB that only did a 2750 N/B but it wasn't a great overclocker in this board. It is all in how you set the board up, ram and cpu . I do have rev.1 board.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
I never said the board was bad for CPU clocking.
Now test for max ram clock. ;) Your kit should do 1700-1800 6-8-6.
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Originally Posted by trt740
Time to kiss and make up guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Remember, this is a hobby we all love not a place to piss at one another.
Thanks for reading.
a little bit to personal there dave
:rofl:
Are you a little homophobic, Stangracin3? :D
trt740, long time no see(I was a TPU member for quite some time/many times lol) you should be use to this kind of thing after having spent time on TPU, some people blame boards for their....lack of skillQuote:
Originally Posted by trt740
My ram dosnt clock well on this board(790xt-ud4p) but its not known for clocking well on any amd system from what i have read, its adata stuff, 1600 9-9-9 rated, but, i can get 1670 out of it with 4 sticks with my 1055t (3.5gz, turbo enabled=4.1, and seems to actually boost ALL CORES to 4.1)
im using the latest bios from gigabyte.com F8G, works great for me, and has also given me and a few others i recommended this board to a nice boost on their older chips(435's, 555's, 955's and such) everybody found that they could clock both cpu and ram a bit better with the bios that have come out with "x6 support"
im happy with this board, it works well FOR ME
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1292209892
Yes, because we all know that .1v ramvolt incriments and bad compatibility with various types of ram are lack of skill. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by AzureSky
I don't think I was able to hit 1880 6-6-6 or 3102 CPU_NB on a 965BE with "lack" of skill...I was just saying that that Gigabyte Rev 1 boards as well as their DDR2 boards (I've owned both) are "lack"ing in some places. I never said it was bad... but what's in my avatar at left is impossible on a Gigabyte Rev 1 800 series or 790 series board.
But those boards do have a wall of ~1780-1800 for stability and as soon as you apply anything higher than 1879 the board will flip out. ;)
Most Deneb CPU's will need at the very least 1.45v for 4Ghz, 1.50+ for 4.1, and 1.55+ for 4.2. This is usually common knowledge.
I'm glad that trt740 has a golden CPU, but that doesn't really reflect on how much "skill" or "lack of skill" a user has. For example, my 965 does 3.7 at stock VID (1.4v) while my 565BE sample does 3.8 @ it's stock VID of 1.325v. The 965BE needs 1.56v for 4 Ghz, and the 565BE does 4 Ghz @ 1.425v. As you can see, there is a huge range there in the middle where most CPU's fall. My 565BE would be considered a pretty good CPU.
Thanks man ! Lots of good info there :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Does the voltage increase scale with the wattage ? eg 965 = 125w, 565be = 80w ?
I think I see a pattern here...
My old 80w x2 550be(wouldn't unlock lol), had no probs or temp gain:yepp: @3.5ghz 17.5x 200 1.3v. My current cpu is 95w and needs 1.35v to make 3.5ghz 14x 250, work.
Peace
965 is a quad core so those are rated at 125w. VID's depend on each CPU, usually a combination of stability and staying under TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420
565's for example are a reasonably high clocked dual core @ 80w TDP. VID's will usually range between 1.25 - 1.4v, depending on what the chip needs for stability as well as fitting the TDP.
Another variable is the amount of Vdroop any specific mobo may apply.
Then why the extra wattage?:shrug: My 95w 630 performs the same a 125w PII 955 at these speeds.
Since you've overclocked the wattage has gone up...the wattage only applies to the stock frequency. I see you've unlocked L3 as well... for example that CPU might have been an Athlon because it didn't meet TDP...take out cache, lower voltage, lower frequency and you have yourself a 95w 630.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420
If my TDP went up, my temps would not be so low. Idle = 30-33C, Load = 45C running Hyper Pi 32M. eg.. my friend runs his 125w PII x4 920 at stock, 2.8ghz 1.35v, with idle temps 7-10C higher than mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Or they may have lowerd the TDP(and clock speeds) and disabled the L3 cache to meet market demand and/or to keep the market from being flooded with PII x4's.
Temp sensors vary as well as heat from chip to chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420
Stock cooler?
My 565 idles at 17c? in a 20c room, but my 965BE idles at 31 if that tells you anything.
Different mounts, IHS flatness, etc...have lots of effect on temps. When your CPU runs faster, it uses more power. It's as simple as that...adding voltage also ups TDP.
Yep.. stock Phenom II cooler ;) and AS5 :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Whats the measurement of the pinhole to pinhole for the mosfet on the ddr2 ud4p?
Who is using a water block for the mosfets on this board?
Has anyone passed 300HT w/1100T 24/7 STABLE?
Gigabyte put up the F10c beta BIOS for the 790X-UD4P. Not sure what kind of changes there are and it's dated September 8th.
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList...-ud4p_f10c.exe
Has anyone played with the new bios or has any more info then what is posted at Gigabyte site?
Also is any one running the following Graphic cards on the MB, ASUS EAH5770CuCore/2DI/1GD5 or the Saphire Vapor X 5770. If so what problems if any have you had?
I found myself building my first AMD Rig a learning experience first of all starting out with the wrong speed of ram 1333mhz:down:. I can kick myself with not buying some 1600mhz instead but as said you learn as you go...I got the ma790xt-ud4p matched up with the 965BE C3 cooled by the ECO alt along with the F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK kit from G.Skill, Now the ram is funny acting straight out the box at timing 9-9-9-24 if you even try to tighten it to 8-8-8-21 it will ran for awhile and fall flat on it's face Latency at 9-9-9-24 is 49.9ns and at 8-8-8-21 it's 47.7ns now where talking at 1372 mhz/ 2 = 686mhz,The cpu @ 3914mhz = 206x 19.0 here's a sample of my speedsQuote:
Originally Posted by psychogmv
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3712/965clockspeed.jpg
I find having to buy some better memory also my eyes are set towards Kingston Hyper X's 1600mhz I've searched around and found they have the better Latency Straight out the box...:yepp:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2941/hwinfo.jpg
I want to replace my old not efficient Phenom X4 9550 with Athlon II X3 450 but don't know if it will be properly recognized on my 790X-UD4P, cause even the latest F10c BIOS only supports Athlon II X3 445 model. Should I give a try? Also planning to unlock the new Athlon II X3.