but are you sure cire temp shows you the correct multiplier? I use at least 3 or four programs to ceck it.....Like cpu-tweaker cpu-z v1.47 and real temp together :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
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but are you sure cire temp shows you the correct multiplier? I use at least 3 or four programs to ceck it.....Like cpu-tweaker cpu-z v1.47 and real temp together :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
i installed the new bios on my WS Revolution yesterday and can confirm that the 22x multiplier IS available for my i920.
however,
- i am not sure i can enable it manually
- it is only available when the C-State option is Enabled
- i have only tried C-state package limit set to Auto
- when running single threaded apps like superPi, the mult will shoot to 22x and stay
- when running LinX, it will jump to 22x very briefly and throttle back to 21x for the duration
last night i ran 50 iterations of LinX and 10 hrs of Prime95 small FFT @
bclk 183
cpu 3.84 gHz
vcore 1.31875
QPI/DRAM voltage 1.38125
memory at 1463 7-8-7-24-1T @ 1.66v
TRUE 120 Extreme 1366 RT cooling
Windows 7 Ultimate
By the way, i never thought to adjust the power management settings in Windows 7. I had my min and max and 100% while finding these results. The throttle back occurred with my min CPU state at 100%. that said, i just changed it to 25% and at idle my CPU will drop WAY down to like a 4x or 6x multiplier, although it seems to spend most of the time at 12x while at idle.
not trying to prove anyone wrong or anything like that. just contributing my point of reference to the community. all of this stuff helps the group so just take it for what it's worth. :up:
Does anyone have a couple of spare SSD's and this motherboard to try them out on the Marvell SAS controller?
It would be good to know if this controller can handle the throughput for 2 in Raid 0. Afterall, one can never have enough disk drive ports.
Ok did some testing, at 191bclock 1.425 & 1.4125 the multiplier fluctuates back and forth between 20.5 & 21 with Linx and at 1.3875 it stays on 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Been priming for about 10 minutes now and the multiplier stays at 21 at 1.425.
Mmm, that's kinda weird ain't it?!? I must admit that I didn't tried the specific settings 003 described. After installing the new bios I just looked if the 21x multi was implemented and after confirmation I played a bit with it (e.g. 21 x 200). This worked fine during prime and HT disabled. I never use LinX so I think my previous comment is not very relevent then.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
Same thing I experience. Prime95 does not cause it to drop or fluctuate, only linpack.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
hi.. just got my new built last week. what does those setting do ? THX HELP
UCLK
QPI LINK DATA RATE
C1E Support
Hardware prefetcher
Adjecent cache line prefetch
Intel Virtualization tech
CPU TM function
Execute-disable bit
Intel HT technology
A20M
Intel speedstep tech
Intel turbomode tech
Intel C-state tech
It does seem to be some sort of safety since in my case it only throttles at higher vcore and and even then it only does a half multiplier and then goes back up to 21 and back down to 20.5, kinda like its just approaching the throttling threshold.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
I'm wondering if its a combination of vcore and temp that decides since my high temp was fluctuating between 76-78C. Considering during the high temp around 78C it would drop back to 20.5 until the temp dropped to around 76C then back up to the 21 and so forth, it was a steady change back and forth.
For me its really not an issue since at my normal vcore this doesn't occur even with Linx running.
does anyone know if all of the internal SATA ports namely ports 5 and 6 run on the main bus or are they diverted to different bus thus causing the reduced performance with SATA 2 cables? I having some issues connnecting UV SATA 2 cables with clips not seeding correctly so I may have to use ports 5 and 6.
your help is greatly appreciated
i think it's fine cos i have use all of the 6 sata and don't see any perfomance degrade with it plug in.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1MaNArmY
Hey gents. I've been stable at my current settings with the 0905 BIOS and I was just wondering which of the newer ones is the best to take advantage of the 21x multiplier? I've been stuck at 4.0Ghz because my 920 HATES the 20x and my RAM limits me to 211x19. 200x21 would be great if I can swing it. Any input would be great appreciated. :up:
Sorry kinda noob question and maybe wrong thread to ask it..but I just want to know If i went thru one whole loop on prime95 and its been 9+ hrs does this mean my system is stable?
I would rather like a CPU speed of 4Ghz and some OC'ed RAM at 1688Mhz instead of 200Mhz extra CPU speed and standard RAM speed. Those extra 200Mhz CPU speed doens't really contribute much more to the overall speed in my opinion. Moreover there's a great possibility that those extra 200Mhz will be disproportional to the extra voltage you will need. However I would recommend you the latest bios (version 1303) for flashing your bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic Satch
@ 2slicks4u
If your OC is Prime95 stable for 9 hours on blend modus you may consider it stable. However it's still a subjective issue because Prime95 doesn't stress your system to the fullest. In general it does stress your comp. more then during every day use (gaming, decoding, encoding, etc.). But there are still people who want to be sure that there system is stable under whatever condition and use LinX as a stress benching program. It will stress your comp. considerably more than Prime95 and therefore the conclusion will be more reliable. I only use Prime95 as a stress benching program because it will fullfill my needs (gaming most of the time).
Hey guys...
How do i activate the x21 multi on this P6T Deluxe V2?
I am with the lastest bios 0302, i disable Intel Speedstep and turbo boost go away with it...
Folks,
something is wrong here. xtremesystems appears to have lost three pages of this thread, basically all of those posted after they had their two weeks downtime...
Including our successful V2 o V1 crossflashing
What happened the last two days?
Any infos?
PS: I was at 101 posts already, and now it's 93...
If I where guessing I would say there was possibly a crash and a restore without a current backup.
If anyone has the info on cross flashing the V2 to a V1 BIOS would they please post it back up or send it to me. I have the files I just cannot remember the flash commands and I didn't bookmark the link on XS describing how to do it.
Thanks
Hi,
let me sum it up how to do it.
All it takes is a bootable DOS floppy or CD, and an engineering release of AFUDOS. And a V1 BIOS certainly.
I used the 2.36 ES flasher that's linked to at the Maximus to Rampage flashing thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
The actual flasher:
http://rapidshare.com/files/107282483/AFUDOS236ES.zip
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/107282453/AFUDOS229ES.zip
Syntax:
AFUDOS /ifilename.rom /pbnc /n
Make sure to not understand the /i as part of the filename...it is the command parameter, and the filename follows without space.
I used the V1 1403 BIOS, but any other should do.
Makes me wonder who's got the balls to try flashing the Rampage 2 extreme BIOS on the V2, but beware, the board has a different layout! The chances are lower than with the V1 BIOS on the V2.
:up:
I doubt it will work (RIIE on V2).Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Thanks for the info, that's exactly what I was looking for. Has anyone reported any issues when cross flashing? I know someone posted having better overclocks with the V1 BIOS, just curious if anyone else has tried it.
Could someone please explain what C-State Auto and the C1E options int he bios do, also do these affect performance?
raptord had a 100 Mhz higher overclock, but he was at 4.5 GHz and watercooling, I believe. Hence he couldn't notice what I found:Quote:
Originally Posted by HardCode
The fan control does not work with my Zalman CNPS 9900. It comes with a four wire fan connector and the rotation speed is always full. To me that's not a problem, because it seriously bugged me to have the sound of the fan changing all the time, I am rather using a Zalman Fanmate from my previous cooler now.
Other than that, no improvements on air cooling. By 920 bombs out with a bluescreen when going under full load at 4 GHz, and 3.8 GHz is rocksteady at 1.25Vcore.
Setting 21 as multi works fine, and I had my CPU peaking to 22x when running SuperPI on core 0 or 1.
Sorry, guys. I can't remember exactly what I has written previously. I have to correct myself if I had said that my system was water-cooled. The i7 920 I am running is actually cooled by NH-U12P. The 100Mhz more on V1 BIOS is like this: with HT on I can do 4.4G (not prime stable), only can stress a little bit with SuperPi 32M; while with V2 0302 BIOS I can only do 4.3G with HT on. With HT off, both BIOS will do 4.5g (same Vcore at 1.41~1.42v). Hope this will clarify the information concerning oc result of V1 BIOS on V2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
tomorrow
i am getting my ststem from newegg
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
EVGA 01G-P3-1285-AR GeForce GTX 285 SC Edition 1GB
me all confused since this is new hardware compare to a P45 Board and on a x58 i heard you can blow your CPU -if you don't know what your doing.,like to get my system stable at least 3.6ghz or so ,can anyone list there bios settings,i would'nt know where to begin
thanks
I crossflashed succefully too!
So far so good... doing this i could lower my vcore and vtt needings... :)
C1E lowers the voltage and multiplier when the system is idle or under light load. The voltage lowering only works at stock settings though (on DFI boards it always works though).Quote:
Originally Posted by davewolfs
I'm not sure what C-state does but I'd really like a good explanation.
I've done this testing w/ a pair of X25-M drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomb18
The SAS controller blows, hard.
150MB/s tops.
By comparison, ICH10R tops out about 600MB/s in RAID 0.
Hmmm, I'm using 2 70G SAS drives on the sas ports in Raid 0 and I'm getting around 190MB/s. Perhaps the sas controllers usage with SATA drives is sub optimal. Good to know. This will save time when it comes to my upgrade to SSD.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
Hi,
I've got a pretty unspecific problem here and was wondering if anybody else encountered it.
My Corsair XMS-3 RAMs are rated at 9-9-9-24-2T/1.8V at 1600, but I am getting sudden reboots or system hangs at 1600. 1200 works fine with very tight timings and 1T. The only oddity about my setup is that I am using 4 modules in a triple channel configuration in sockets A1,A2,B2 and C2.
Any suggestions? This is an issue that might take weeks to troubleshoot if there's not a genius here that had it before. ^.^
I just got a P6T non-deluxe and there's something strange about the bios: In the manual it shows Intel SpeedStep (aka EIST) under "Ai tweaker" right below 'CPU ratio'. When I go into bios on my board, both EIST and Turbo mode are missing, 'DRAM frequency" is right below CPU ratio. This is true with both the shipping bios, and 0502 bios which is the latest on the ASUS site.
So there's no way I can have EIST which for me is a total deal breaker. But otherwise, the board is a keeper. So my question is,
is the manual wrong, or is my board wrong? If the P6T , by design, does not allow EIST, then I must send this board back. Can someone with a P6T tell me if EIST and Turbo mode are present in their bios?
I don't have non-deluxe version. But I believe EIST and turbo should be there. You may wanna change the "AI" in BIOS from auto to x.m.p to enable EIST and turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
There is a cpu settings section in the bios, you may have to enable eist c1e there first before the options appear in the section where you do the oc settings. Its in the section where you enable virtualization tech and stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
I have switched to another mobo for now, so I can't easily go back and check to see if these suggestions work. I know that often one must set a variable to a certain state to enable another variable. However, you will still see the second variable, it will just be greyed out. In this case, EIST and turbo mode are simply not there, not merely there but greyed out. Also, I would have enabled every power thing, including C1E and all C states, and looked to see if EIST and turbo suddenly appeared, but no, they were missing in action. OTOH, I don't see how a defect could cause them to disappear, so I'm at a total loss. Without being able to check anything, there's no point in pursuing this until I go back to the P6T. So if anyone has a P6T non-deluxe, please see if you have EIST and tubo under the CPU ratio entry.
WOW!!!! Got my system together useing this settup for now http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...&postcount=469
the only setting me worried on is
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.35V (cause its in RED)
I mean this i7 Smokes Fast
The option is there, I'm using it on my P6T, did you possibly manually set the cpu multiplier, that will disable eist and turboboost.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
I successfully flashed my V2 to a V1 BIOS last night and I'm much happier with this board now. With the 1403 BIOS and manually setting the 21x multi I was able to drop my vcore and vtt .025v for the same settings, which makes me much happier.
Thanks for the guys who came up with the steps and for all the info, I'm in love with this board again :)
EIST always works on the MSI, Biostar boards too, any voltage, any bclk just as you would expect. It always passes/fails at 139/140 Bclk on all gigabyte boards, voltage has no effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
How high are you running Uncore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
For DDR1600 @ 200 BCLK I have found that 3400Mhz/17x Uncore is way more stable than 3200Mhz/16x.
I assume you have tried with only 3 sticks, and that it still fails..?
Is anyone using Xeon W3520 (Rev D0) on this board ?
I own the Deluxe V1, flashed to newest bios (1403) with my old i7 920 und popped in the xeon.
My problem is that i have no uncore and qpi settings anymore and only two mem multipliers.
So what now ? Normal behaviour because of the xeon or go back to bios 1303 ?
Ya its because of the xeon. Live with it or put the 920 back in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
Xeons has everything locked... :(
No I haven't yet. I thought of it, certainly, but it's no long term solution to run my box on only 3 GB. Sure, it's a way to test and see... I'll do that sometime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formann
As for the uncore voltage, it is set to 1.375V.
I was experimenting a bit with the good old clock skews. It gives a bit more stability and reduced the crash frequency to maybe every 6-13 hours. Those crashes however often happen when starting Prime 95 after having run a couple passes of LinX and a few hours of Secondlife.
In the worst case I'll run my four modules at 1200. Never trade memory capacity for speed. ;)
The CPU multi was set to 20 when I first booted up, and there is no way to set it to 'auto', you can only type in a number. However, I finally figured out how to do it. I loaded ' default settings' and only then did the EIST and Turbo lines appear. Then I set everything to the values I wanted, and still these two entries remained. So eventually I wound up with every setting just as I origianlly had it, only this time I had EIST and turbo. The bad news is that all my efforts were in vain cause in the end, EIST is broken on this board. With EIST set in bios, I see the CPU multi vary with load fron 12x to 21x just as it should, so I know the board is recognizing that EIST is enabled . But Vcore sits there always at the value I set in bios, doesn't drop by 15% or so when multi drops to 12x. And this is the case regardless of Bclk, so it isn't the deal where a feature works only if you downclock the CPU, as with Giga working only up to 139 Bclk. Other boards do EIST up to any Bclk, any voltage so this is a design flaw with the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
The vcore won't adjust if you actually set a vcore value other than auto, I know for sure EIST works at default bclock with everything on auto as far as lowering vcore and multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
Anyone care to share what C-State does? I have found that it will reduce my idle temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
I may not have had it on "auto", but I had all the same values that are set by the bios when it is on auto. I know that I set Bclk to 133. Could you try loading default values, then do nothing other than enabling Ai clocking (don't change any settings)?Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
THere's no logical/technical reason why voltage or anything else should affect EIST, especially when all parameters are the same when Ai is enabled as when it isn't. If EIST breaks by merely changing from normal to AI enabled, then this is still another design flaw.
Hey all new here and I got a question ,I just bought a p6t deluxe v2 and the bios was already updated to 0302 ..that seems odd cause i don't think these MB come with the 0302 bios pre installed .Did any1 here receive there MB with bios 0302 pre installed already ?
because i think i just bought some1 Else's return ..thanks
I can confirm what dave says. The C1E doesn't wotk when cpu is o/ced.Quote:
Originally Posted by davewolfs
You keep talking about design flaws, this is a bios issue that is only an issue with overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
You have this board yourself you should be able to make all these changes yourself to experiment with cause and effect, it is much more useful than looking at my screen shots. If you set a value that means you're making that value static/set, auto mean's it will be controlled by the predetermined auto parameters/tables.
EDIT: Just for the sake of it I set the bclock to 150 and EIST still works fine with reducing both the multiplier and the vcore. I would imagine the vcore adjustment no longer adjusts once the point is reached that "auto" determines it needs to actually increase the vcore value due to clock speed.
At any rate here it is "working" on "auto":
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5161/i7idle.th.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3157/i7load.th.jpg
Another successful crossflash from V2 0302 to V1 1403 here too, before the flash my C0 get BSOD at 3.80Ghz (20 x190) @1.35v after about 3 seconds of LinX, upping the vcore only increased heat and still BSOD in few seconds of LinX. After the crossflash I'm now able to get 20 passes of LinX at 3.80Ghz (21x181) @1.35v, couple degree cooler to boot. I'm liking this new BIOS on V2 board so far, can't wait to receive my D0 chip on this Friday. :D Kudo to those who were brave enough to try the crossflash first and the positive result gave me confidence to do it on mine....LOL
by the way, generally how high of a bclk can you push these P6T Deluxe V2/V1 mobo? will they do 220 with a good D0 chip?
I can do 222 with my native V1 and a C0/C1 i7
Right, design flaws. A design flaw is when a mobo fails to perform a standard feature at a performance level that is well within the capability of the individual chip that is being used. My chip can comfortably do 21x191 Bclk at 1.184 Vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I know this because I've tested it for EIST in many different mobos. So if there is a failure of my 'system' and the CPU, memory, vid card are not to blame, then by definition, it is a failure of the mobo cause that's the only thing left.
Actually, the opposite is true. Your screens are essential because they help answer the question "is it a design flaw, or just my particular board"? I am unable to replicate your results, so perhaps my board is even more limited than yours.Quote:
You have this board yourself you should be able to make all these changes yourself to experiment with cause and effect, it is much more useful than looking at my screen shots.
Right, and I am using the "auto" values. I started with 'load default values', put it in OC mode, and changed nothing but voltage, I even left Bclk at 133. Booted into windows and Vcore failed to vary dynamically even though that feature is built into my chip. You did the same thing, you are seeing EIST work properly at 150 Bclk. Then again, you haven't tested EIST anywhere near the AC limits of your CPU, so your board may or may not support EIST. So the question remains, does EIST work on your board only if you downclock? Or does it still work at a typical CPU clock of, say, 4.0 Ghz?Quote:
If I hadIf you set a value that means you're making that value static/set, auto mean's it will be controlled by the predetermined auto parameters/tables.
I appreciate you taking the time to run this test. It tells me that there is at least some chance that EIST may not be broken after all, that it does work at full performance levels. But since you didn't report what happened when you crank up CPU clock to typical levels, I would suspect there is still a problem,Quote:
At any rate here it is "working" on "auto":
especially considering that DFI, MSI, Biostar etc. all do EIST at full performance.
[QUOTE=roller11;3748906]
EIST always works to control the multiplier up to 4ghz this I do know! Its the vcore that will no longer scale lower and higher with clock speed once you get to around 160ish bclock.
You need to enable EIST and have the multiplier and vcore set to auto, settings like the bclock have no auto since outside of overclocking this value doesn't change.
The mode of oc'ing should be set to manual, no ai or anything else, manual should give you all the settings that can be changed off the top of my head.
I think the EIST is little bit complicated on P6T-D (v1 or v2). On my v2, with the setting everything enabled except C1E and multiplier manually set at 21x, Bclck=200Mhz , if I turn on HT, the multipler changes with load (12,20x,21x). But if I go from this setting with HT off (this is only change), the multiplier stuck at 21x, no matter of the load.
Somebody should confirm this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by davewolfs
Anyone care to share what C-State does? I have found that it will reduce my idle temps.
Both C1E and SpeedStep work with my Overclock, either separate or together. I am still using the 20x multiplier at 180 BCLK.Quote:
Originally Posted by raptord
I looked all over the Intel website on C-States. I only found a small amount of information related to Mobile Processors.
On the i7, they only list SpeedStep and C1E as supported features. This makes me think the C-States are not supported. And, is why it is disabled in the bios by default.
When you say "work" do you mean only multi works, or both multi and Vcore change dynamically with load?Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
With DFI, MSI, and Biostar, both vcore and multi change at all settings. With giga, multi changes at all settings, but vcore changing only happens up to 139 Bclk. With my Pt6 non-deluxe, multi changes at all bclk, vcore never changes regardless of settings. Since others are getting different results, I'm thinking I should RMA my board.
Cstates are basically the level of sleep state that can be applied, the higher the Cstate the more of the core can be shut down during low to idle useage. In order to get the 22 multiplier with turbo boost you have to enable a cstate high enough to allow the cpu to sleep three cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
Look up the turboboost white paper on intels site.
I get a small Vcore drop with C1E and not SpeedStep. Both have the multiplier drop two 12x.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I would not want to use anything that would either disable cores or HT. I see no evidence of that with either of the C-State bios settings (@ 20x/ 12x).
http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/x58_320838.zip
http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/CPUz032709.png
Its dynamic just like EIST changes the multiplier, you will have no idea cstates are even doing anything unless you have a killawatt meter or other means to measure idle power consumption. As soon as there is a load the cores wake back up when needed, it doesn't cripple the functionality of the chip. If you feel the need to use EIST to save power then you should highly considering using full cstate to reduce idle power consumption further since all four cores are doing little at idle to light load.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
The intel white paper on turboboost will give you a good idea of whats going on.
The voltage change you are seeing is from load line calibration being enabled, the bios is actually increasing vcore to compensate for the load. Try disabling load line calibration and see if your vcore continues to go up during load.
Do you have a link? Does it say that the C-States are supported on either the i7 or the x58?Quote:
The intel white paper on turboboost will give you a good idea of whats going on.
Just goto intel and search for turbo or turbo boost and yes cstates are fully supported by i7 as much as EIST or HT are.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
Ya i have the P6T vanilla and when overclocked my voltage doesnt change but my multiplier does. On default settings both multi and voltage changes.
My last few Asus and Gigabyte boards did the same thing, i dont really care, its only 200mv i dont think it will affect heat or my electricity bill too much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I am getting lower CPU temps with the C-State on auto. Thanks for the info. I keep-ed looking at the x58 tech pdfs for C-State info.Quote:
3.0 C-State
Definitions
Intel® processors based on Nehalem
microarchitecture support core C0, C1, C3, and C6.
C0 and C1 are always supported; the availability
of the remaining C-states may vary by processor
number. Any core within the processor can go into
any C-state independent of the state of the other
cores.
Note: The behavior in a particular C-state on Intel®
processors based on Nehalem microarchitecture
may be different from C-states referred to with
the same number on previous products. One
reason for this is the platform changes, including
the move to the Intel® Quick Path Interconnect,
which results in the elimination of the STPCLK#,
SLP#, and DPSLP# signals.
3.1 C0
C0 is defined as the active state. While in C0,
instructions are being executed by the core. For
Intel® Turbo Boost technology, a core in C0 is
considered an active core.
3.2 C1
C1 is defined as the halt state. While in C1, no
instructions are being executed. For Intel® Turbo
Boost technology, a core in C1 is considered an
active core. This idle state is generally classified
as “ACPI C1.”
3.3 C3
While in C3 the core PLLs are turned off, and all
the core caches are flushed. For Intel® Turbo
Boost technology, a core in C3 is considered an
inactive core. This idle state may be classified as
“ACPI C2” or “ACPI C3” depending on processor
number, BIOS, and operating system.
3.4 C6
While in C6, the core PLLs are turned off, the core
caches are flushed and the core state is saved to
the Last Level Cache. Power Gates are used to
reduce power consumption to close to zero. For
Intel® Turbo Boost technology, a core in C6 is
considered an inactive core. This idle state may be
classified as “ACPI C2” or “ACPI C3” depending on
processor number, BIOS, and operating system.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buggalugs
200mv will most certainly affect heat, in fact, going from 1.100mv to 1.300
vcore means a power increase of 39.6%. That's why EIST is so important, it has a tangible real world benefit. The extra heat translates directly into extra fan noise. So while you're browsing the net, doing Email, doing a slide show for friends, etc. you are unnecessarily subjected to irritaing fan noise because ASUS messed up the design.
I was going to RMA my board, but seems everyone is saying that EIST doesn't work at full performance levels. So there would be no point, I'd just get another board with non-working EIST.
OK ya maybe a little. But hey i did some testing on this yesterday and today i fired up the computer and my voltage IS fluctuating a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
Its going from 1.288 down to 1.280 . All i did was enable Cstate which was disabled by default, and put all voltages on auto. Thats at 3.8Ghz OC. So its working a little now. I guess it would be better if it worked properly but i can live with it.
But ye my computer is silent with the TRUE and a 1200rpm Scythe fan, never hear it, but it would be good if it works properly. Especially if other cheaper boards can do it, but then again those boards are not known for their stability or overclockability so maybe theres a tradeoff.
Anybody has any success running 12GB of OCZ Platinum 1600 on the P6T? I just bought another 6GB kit (2GB x3) but no luck getting them to POST even at the loosest timing at 11-10-10-30
Same here, running at 21x200 with HT on with only 1.31v, under heavy load in LinX the multiplier would drop down to 20x, all the power saving features(TM, C1E, c-state, etc) are disable in the BIOS and in Vista 64bit OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Yes, this is extremely annoyingQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
this may be one of the feature built-in the Core i7 to prevent damages from overheat/overvolt, not sure what the deal is...probably good for noobie but an annoyance to those who can keep the heat down. To work around this i guess if the motherboard can handle it then use the native 19x or 20x and crank up them bclk. Other than LinX I haven't come across any real world apps or games that could trigger this phenomenon.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
So I guess if C1E and C State are not have a negative affect on your OC's its an ideal state to leave the machine on? I'm also guessing that these options have little affect if any on real world performance. Can someone confirm this.
I dont have that problem... and yes, i have a V2 but flashed to V1 (1403) all i did was fixing multiplier to 21, then disable everything in CPU features. Except HT, and cores, ofc.
What voltage do you used? And you have tried LinX?
I've even tested this myself and turbo boost will dial back the multiplier under enough voltage and linx stress testing. The load conditions are definitely not real world and will probably only happen under heavy stress testing at vcore over 1.4ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpablo
I run my vcore at 1.3875 at 21x191 and it never drops even under linx, at 1.425 mine fluctuates between 21 and 20.5 at around 78C running linx.
EDIT: Using prime, even at 1.425 21x191 the multiplier didn't scale back, only happened to me with linx when temps got around 78C.
The intel white paper gives some insight to this but they don't specify the particular thresholds that actually trigger the safety.
Okay, I just set-up my first ever system with an i7 920 and a P6T Deluxe. Currently I can't get it to install windows because it keeps saying a bios update is needed. I tried hooking up a hard disk with an OS and it got in, but the keyboard and mouse wouldn't work, so it was pretty much pointless.
I just updated the bios to the latest (the 1403, I think) but the same damn thing still appears, telling me I should update my bios to see my cpu's full potential. I've tried setting the CDROM as first priority for booting with the XP CD, but it doesn't seem to work. And I seem to get an error that says NTLR (or something like that) not detected. Any suggestions, guys?
Edit: I don't know if you guys need to know this, but I'm on 6GB Corsair Dominators. Thanks for any help!
Stupid question WHAT tells you that you need a BIOS update? When does that message appear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekkt
Usually when a CPU isn't supported by the BIOS, it wouldn't come up at all.
As for the keyboard and mouse, try a PS/2 one if the not working ones are USB, and vice versa. It is possible that your windows is trying to install USB drivers for the ICH10R southbridge but can't find them until you're installing the latest Intel INF update from your board's support CD.
Something similar happened to me.
I tried a PS/2 mouse, but it didn't work. And I can't do anything because the CD doesn't autorun when I put it in. What I'm trying to do is install vista, but it doesn't let me boot with my CDROM. Instead, it always tells me to setup my bios to 'release' my cpu's full potential. Maybe I need to do something there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Edit:
Also, at the top of the page it says Marvel something something with bios at the end of it. And I can't remember exactly what it says, but there's something about a spinning group, etc (can't remember the rest, but I'll check). Does that mean anything?
Hey guys, I'm a pretty avid member over at OCN, and since there isn't an active thread about this board, I figured I would ask here.
I'm having some SERIOUS issues getting anything above 3.4ghz stable on my 920. I don't know the batch number of the cpu as i bought it the day it released from tankguys, and never bothered to write it down.
My System:
P6t Deluxe w/1403 bios
i7 920
Gskill 1333 3x2gb
TRUE w/ San Ace 1011
corsair tx750
I've been wondering what are some fairly idiot-proof setting for hitting around 3.6-3.8 ghz. Everyone I know that has this board/cpu combo has been hitting 4.0 ghz with changing the cpu volts to 1.35 and leaving everything else on auto, and I get continual BSOD's doing this.
Anything that can help me out would be amazing.
Voltage settings for anything would be useful.
Thanks in advance.
ErBall if I was you i would try to raise the QPI/DRAM voltage up to 1.35-1.36v and try again.
Did you load the bios defaults?Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekkt
I should have mentioned that I already did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mak1skav
I'm looking for people who would disclose their bios settings as towards their stable settings. I'm new to the i7 platform so I don't know what voltages are safe to raise or not, and what the limits are for various settings.
I have tried what I was told was the "fool proof" way of leaving most things on auto, and got no where fast.
Pretty sure I did, but I'll try again. How did you guys start up with this board?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buggalugs
Mine was stable full auto up to 4ghz, getting 3.8 with auto should be straight forward to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ErBall
What speed are you running your memory at, thats the only thing off the top of my head that could directly limit the oc.
Mine powered right up without doing anything special but it would seem you may have a D0 stepping cpu or a nerfed bios for it to be asking you to update the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekkt
Yup, I do in fact have a d0 stepping CPU. I think I've updated the bios to the latest tho. Just one flash to the 1403 is all, right? I don't have to update it by flashing each and every bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
Edit: I think what I might have here is a retarded windows CD. Setting CDROM as first priority for booting does work, but whenever I enter the windows XP CD, the thing just says NTLDR not detected.
Anyway, now it doesn't tell me to update my bios anymore. Now something just pops up and says hard disk not detected. What should I do?
Well I take it you have keyboard and mouse working now, might want to try hitting f8 during the post screen to pull up the boot device selection screen and select the appropriate device and see if that at least gets you going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekkt
Alright, I'll give it a shot. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
Edit: Awesome. I didn't know I could do that by pressing F8. It's installing vista as I'm typing this. Thanks a bunch, m8!
Frankly, I don't get what you're getting at. Could it be that you are translating from a different language? It just looks to me as if you failed to describe to us what's going on in an appropriate terminology. Could you possibly post screenshots? For example taken with a digital still cam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekkt
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Intel_Chip...ity_d1667.html
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Drivers | Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility 9.1.0.1014
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Author: Intel
Date: 2009-04-27
* Product: Intel(R) Chipset Device Software
* Release: Production Version
* Version: 9.1.0.1014
* Target Chipset#: 5520/5500/X58
Use Commandline = "-OVERALL"
example... \infinst_autol.exe -OVERALL
.
Hmm... I have been using 9.1.1.1004 from station-drivers for a while now. Are these newer? The date is much newer, but the version number is older??
Can you give me a link? I will extract it and look it over.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
* Product: Intel(R) Chipset Device Software
* Release: Pre-Alpha
* Version: 9.1.1.1004
* Target Chipset#: Ibex Peak
* Date: October 16 2008
This one ??
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm
Mike.
Ya you can get it here:Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm
This is the info in 9.1.1.1004
* Product: Intel(R) Chipset Device Software
* Release: Pre-Alpha
* Version: 9.1.1.1004
* Target Chipset#: Ibex Peak
* Date: October 16 2008
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And 9.1.0.1014
Product: Intel(R) Chipset Device Software
* Release: Production Version
* Version: 9.1.0.1014
* Target Chipset#: 5520/5500/X58
* Date: February 05 2009
Just looked it up: Ibex Peak chipset is P55
See that is where I'm confused. I was under the belief that auto would take me to at LEAST 3.6ghz, but I cannot get over 3.4 with auto voltages. Which further confuses me because I thought auto settings would naturally overvolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
Perhaps I got a bad board, all in all im left with a bit of a sour taste in my mouth after this excursion.
I do 3.60 GHz with a manual Vcore 1.25V 100.1% stableQuote:
Originally Posted by ErBall
Yes, but afaik all chipset releases contain proper drivers for all antecedent chipsets...Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
Which should we use?
This is the majority of the responses I have been receiving, and honestly its not helping at all. People telling me what they can run. I get it, most people can run a higher overclock flawlessly, im looking for why mine CANT, not what yours is capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbam
If you have any ideas as towards why I'm running into issues, please let me know.
My memory is 1333 not 1600, but with a blck of 200 i can run 1200 so that should not be a limiting factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
QPI/DRAM voltage 1.35
Vcore 1.35
Ram volts 1.66
everything else auto.
This results in nothing but bluescreens past 165 blck.
Quote:
ErBall;3758611]This is the majority of the responses I have been receiving, and honestly its not helping at all. People telling me what they can run. I get it, most people can run a higher overclock flawlessly, im looking for why mine CANT, not what yours is capable of.
If you have any ideas as towards why I'm running into issues, please let me know.
Why do use Auto settings? I can't do 3.6 on Auto either. Test, adjust test test more. You are asking and people tell you what they can do. How can someone tell you what you can do.
I don't understand why you say you can do an extreme OC, but can't do a small one because you use Auto :shrug:
http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/TurboV.PNG