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Simps
You are right, there is no point in comparing the boards like this anymore.
That was what I wanted to do. But the comparison we are trying is just not fair and reasonable. After Jor3lBR post, no conclusion can be made at all.
You said any Quad core you asked for these screens I didn't came buy Asus thread with this silly quest.
So you first ask because you where sure results would be in your favor and now you say there is no point?
To compare you just need to look at Asus thread and see the results they are getting with this same exact chip Q9650 - none stable above 4400Mhz or 500 FSB x 9 so far. Exactly NONE.
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Simps
The 45nm Q9650 vs 65nm Q6700 is what makes the comparison not doable. But there are a lot of other differences too. Seens like there is no program to read the volts and temps of the UD3P on windows. I mean, that ET6 program, don't show the actual voltages of the board, it just shows the values you are setting it, but you could set a value of 1.5v, and the board could overvolt it to 1.55v for example. I is just not a "reading / reporting" board voltages and temps, not a trustable one.
Also, different PSU's, I see his PSU doing 12.1v on load, mine is arround 11.9v on load.
Funny thing your results are trustworthy and mine are not? You showed ONE screen with no LOAD in the end of the test and that's it! I showed several with LOAD and IDLE begging and ending of tests, try to adjust voltages on the middle of IBT :yepp:
If my volts or results are not accurate how most of the people here with Quads obtain success with my Templates?
And again you will always find a small discrepancy on the test to call the comparison off common mate "my PSU reads 11.9v ans his 12.1v" that made me :rofl:
Again not trying to discredit you or something but you are pushing it too much.
You don't trust ET6 volts?!?!?! "Values your are setting" QTF! Now that pisses me off. I'm an old member here and people trust me I even did 2 very successful group purchases here that people actually trust me with a BIG amount of their money in my bank!
You cannot set anything on ET6 and expect it to work mate, I see you are not here enough time to now that ET6 cannot fine adjust the References and Terminations like in BIOS...
ET6 shows exactly the volts I'm using during LOAD and IDLE! Better then Everest...
Besides I'm not adjusting anything in Windows, all my config is BIOS I only showed ET6 so you could see the complete voltages.
And again if you wanna compare exactly you just need to look at Asus thread and see the results they are getting with this same exact chip Q9650 - none stable above 4400Mhz or 500 FSB x 9 so far. Exactly NONE.
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Simps
Also, he didn't show prime, and even if he did, there would still not help the comparison as there are to many differences.
Left it running before I went to work and also I was able to tweak all voltages and reduce Vdimm by a lot too...
All times stamps are in the SS's to check the accuracy and transparency of the tests:
Prime95 Blend 7hrs+
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...57hrs500_2.jpg
IBT LOAD to do 20 passes on the new lowered voltages
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...R/Untitled.jpg
IBT IDLE complete 20 passes
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Untitled2.jpg
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Simps
He's UD3P needed less (much less) vtt and pll. But thoses are very cpu related, and then the advantage of running a 45nm Q9650 vs 65nm Q6700 kicks in. So many differences.
My memory bandwidth on the same clocks were higher, but them again, this means nothing.
We can't just compare like this, soooo many differences. At first I thought it would be reasonable, but it is not. Can't make a conclusion after it.
As I said you came here and asked for 45nm and 65nm results. They where presented to you as part of the comparison. In fact my Q6600 needed less VTT then my Q9650 on the DFI so that doesn't mean anything...
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Simps
I am interested in a fair comparison, and I am trying to get one of this UD3P board to myself, so I can test it on the same hardware. But I live in Brazil, and computer parts are a bit expensive here. If I ever get teh boards, I will post a fair comparison, whatever the results are.
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Simps
Fair comparisons are all over Asus + Q9650 thread, no match for UD3P.
I wish I still had my 65nm Q6600 no wait you would say it was unfair because it's not the Q6700 :ROTF:
Don't take nothing here personally you seam like you can be a nice fella but sometimes you won't translate that to paper.