I flashed 1006 via Asus update since I couldn't do it through easy flash. I haven't noticed anything different with 1006 vs 1004.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinyRK
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I flashed 1006 via Asus update since I couldn't do it through easy flash. I haven't noticed anything different with 1006 vs 1004.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinyRK
But does S3 Stand By work? Did it work for you in v1004. It didnt for me at all even in rock solid 1:1 at only 480FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by TouGe
Think about a Thermalright HR-1 or 120 Ultra Extreme. You can choose the fans by your own if you wish to. And by choosing the fan or fans, you can choose between silent and loud but very gut cooling and make your own compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullysnet
I used Scythe Mugen and now TR 120UE and I like the TR a bit more because it has to be bolt and for Mugen you need a bolt-threw-kit for that.
For myself, I like such coolers much more than the ones from Zalman!
Sorry for my english ;)
I've the problem that my network connection sometimes doesn't get ready after boot. I've already tried to use the other onboardnic, but it's the same with it.
I use Vista SP1 with all updates. It's a new installation. I also use the latest drivers. I tested more than 7 older driver releases for the NIC too (including the one from Windows Update), but it's always the same.
Is there already a solution out there (except buying a pci card)?
Still haven't gotten a response to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoogyMonster
I have the cooling to run @ 4GHz with my 6600, I just need to get a better idea of the settings that work...
On the right BIOS BETA, yes, you can just manually set trfc to at least 50 or 55 for 4x 4g. Sma efor the Crucial's (PC2-8500) Despicte the statement, I adjusted to make up and thay are fine for 6+ months so far on this mobo. I even ran them to 2.72 for the longest time w/ trfc of 42 till I got BETA v1004 nice and steady now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoogyMonster
Any word on BETA v1006 and if S3 works now. It is crap out not working in 1004 for me. Everything else is fine.
Nuckin - can you post all of your CMOS settings for the 4GHz machine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I've currently got "standard" PC2-8500 in my machine (I removed the Ballistix due to incompatibility issues). Will I have any problem configuring the RAM to work with 4GHz?
Also, can you quickly explain why the RAM settings need to be adjusted to work with the 4GHz settings?
Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoogyMonster
As for the RAM, it didnt matter so much for CPU @ 4GHz, but more of the RAM amount of 4 Gb size. But the timings need to be adjusted slightly to keep stable, especially on an OC cause more RAM taxes the MCH, making it work harder to address all that extra RAM. But when OC'd, it now has to do all that much faster. Most overclockers will not insist on populating all 4 slots as this is not the most stable for high OC, but OK if you relax later after stable for real world work. 2 slots is best, but 2x 2gb kts are OK if you relax them just enough to keep up. It is still an addressing issue but not as much a vdimm tax on mobo and chipset as 4x 1gb kits.Code:MAXIMUX FORMULA SE BIOS v1004 w/ E6750 and OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum 2x 2Gb kit
[set as] = reported
------------------------
Extreme Tweaker Settings
Ai Overclock: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [Manial]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency: [500]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [Auto]
PCI-E Frequency: [110]
DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1000]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-15-3-50-6-3
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50] = 50
Write Recovery time: [Auto] = 6
Read to Precharge Time: [Auto] = 3
Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Disable]
Relax Level [0]
CPU Voltage ----------------- [1.58xxv] = 1.564v
CPU PLL Voltage ------------- [1.52v] ==== 1.632v
North Bridge Voltage -------- [1.47v] ==== 1.504v
DRAM Voltage ---------------- [2.10v] === 2.202v
FSB Termination Voltage ----- [1.42v] ==== 1.488v
South Bridge Voltage -------- [1.075v] === 1.104v
Loadline Calibration -------- [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference ---------- [0.63%] --
North Bridge GTL Reference -- [0.67%] --
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage -- [Auto] ---
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage -- [Auto] ---
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage - [Auto] ===== 1.152v
SB 1.5v Voltage ------------- [1.55v] ==== 1.600v
I have 4x1GB PC2-8500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I take it this will be a big problem?
Hey! :D
I bought recently the signature rig, but I'm having some stranges issues.
I could boot normally, but the system sometimes locked, so I set vDimm to 2v and this problem was solved.
My system is now in default (except vDimm), but the strange part is that sometimes when I remove an usb adapter, ou even the audio jack, the systems freeze, and crucial leds also freeze. :confused:
I changed the memory for a simple 1GB DDR2 667, default, and this problem didn't happened yet.
Could it be some other settins I didn't changed on the BIOS? I'm new with X38, still learning. :D
Another weird problem happens when I open Everest. If there is a pendrive, immediately opens that window from Auto Reproduction, like if a had inserted the pendrive. :shocked:
EDIT: I'm using bios 907.
In my personal and many others (from ASUS Forums) experiences, V907 was a problem in itself. It corrupted my Eprom and cause all the issues you mentiond. I even lost cntrol of my USB mouse at random times. USB exteranl became corrupted because it wbuggy experiences. Since it corrupted mine, wes dropping in and out during work. I had lots of buggy issues with mine. I had to RMA to get out since my boot block was corrupted no matter what BIOS I moved to then on. For the CPU you mentioned, I would have stayed on official v0602 for all around stability, but concider BETA v1004 (flashed w/ Afudos) for more RAM timing control , but looses S3/STR support.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiLL_ClinTon
thanks guys :) ASUS says to not use included fan cause it could interrupt airflow on the CPU but I am up for trying it. I will have to look into rigging up something for the 80mm fans. Are you guys creating something to hold the fan in place? I have read about the ThermalRight Ultra 120 eXtreme on this very board and YES I will be overclocking :up: I was overclocking before I had a memory stick die on me and now I am worried again about heat. eSp!s0 thank you too I will look into the other fan TR 120UE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Does anyone own one of the Zalman cases and how do you like it? I find it very expensive but I love the design and it seems like it would stay cooler then my current case :up:
My own expermental venting for SE version was to duct the full length of the NB cooling block w/ copper tubing to barbs. One extending to coolest lower part of case and on short toward the rear internal w/ a 60 degree cut to act as draft vent (like in a carburator). As fo rth ealuminum sink, I shrouded the block so I can fit 60x20mm fan in front forcing cool air toward rear with a output to outside the case (but at least to rear fan is good enough). This can be done for the non SE as I only did the cold air pup method before I did the duct so I just left it in place. If you actualy have a longer run (ice maker kit) to extend to A/C supply or cold outside window, natural air pupm action will take place as heated air from inside case draws cold air in.
I just wanted to post a follow up, on my successfully getting 3.8GHz back and more!
My key, was getting new RAM. I baught one if these kits:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
I plan on getting a second! ;)
Fixed me right up... :D
System was stuck at:
Q6600 is at 3.47GHz, and GX2 SSC is running at stock speed.
(That would be Core=675, Shader=1674, and Memory=1050.)
Corsair XMS2 2GB(1 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) operating in Single Channel mode. (One Stick)
Memory was rated at 5-5-5-18, and was running at stock settings.
System was testing at:
3DMarkVantage Score = P 10,317 3DMarks.
CPU Score = 11,938
Graphics Score = 9,870
3Dmark06 Score was 17,730.
Vista's Performance Information Tool:
Processor - 5.9
Memory - 5.7
Graphics - 5.9
Gaming graphics - 5.9
Primary hard disk - 5.9
Everest Memory benchmark:
Memory Read - 5,985 MB/s
Memory Write - 6,039 MB/s
Memory Copy - 5,045 MB/s
Memory Latency - 72.1ns
Both new sticks tested good, and my Vista Ultimate is now enjoying 4GB of RAM -vs- the 2GB's I was running on. I did also verify that I am now officially operating in Dual Channel Mode, using CPU-Z.
I wanted to try a test:
With my Q6600 set in the BIOS to 3.47GHz, to match the exact same speed I was stuck at, I reran some tests with my new RAM installed...
My old ram was 5-5-5-18, and this new G.SKILL's is rated at 5-5-5-15.
3DMarkVantage Score = P 10,427 3DMarks. (+ 110)
CPU Score = 12,212 (+ 274)
I couldn’t get the rest due to the Vantage web page not displaying my info correctly at the time.
3Dmark06 Score 18,091. (+ 361)
SM2.0 = 7,066
SM3.0 = 8,745
CPU = 4,890
Vista's Performance Information Tool:
Processor - 5.9
Memory - 5.9 (Was 5.7 !!)
Graphics - 5.9
Gaming graphics - 5.9
Primary hard disk - 5.9
Everest Memory benchmark:
Memory Read - 8,547 MB/s (+ 2,562 MB/s)
Memory Write - 7,776 MB/s (+ 1,737 MB/s)
Memory Copy - 7,831 MB/s (+ 2,786 MB/s)
Memory Latency - 58.6ns (13.5ns lower latency)
I am using the following BIOS settings, and only changing FSB Frequency, and the lowest possible voltage I can to Prime error free two hours. My system has a nasty habit of getting an error 1Hr 10min into prime, if the CPU is a wee bit low on voltage for stability. That is why I only record data after 2 hours of error free run time.
My GX2 being the issue turned out to be false. Funky memory was, and am getting a refund. :)
Here is my 1004 Bios settings, and were used for generating all chart data below.
Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : XXX (Select from listing below)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-XXXMHz (Changes based on FSB selected)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : X.XXXXv (See listing)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Note: The only thing OC'ed on my GX2 SSC is the fan! ;)
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOs ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest - CPU-Z -- 3DMark06 - SM2.0 -- SM3.0 --- CPU ---- Vantage --- CPU -- Graphics
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- x.xxxxxv -- x.xxv --- x.xxxv --- 19,296 -- 7,661 --- 9,062 --- 5,375 --- P10,553 -- 13,167 -- 9,898
421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,305 -- 7,647 --- 9,078 --- 5,385 --- P10,553 -- 13,164 -- 9,899
422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,364 -- 7,690 --- 9,113 --- 5,369 --- P10,583 -- 13,281 -- 9,912
423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,164 -- 7,550 --- 9,042 --- 5,358 --- P10,595 -- 13,441 -- 9,896
424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,226 -- 7,570 --- 9,047 --- 5,419 --- P10,574 -- 13,254 -- 9,906
425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,503 -- 7,766 --- 9,141 --- 5,428 --- P10,574 -- 13,262 -- 9,905
426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v -- 19,499 -- 7,762 --- 9,123 --- 5,447 --- P10,564 -- 13,232 -- 9,899
427 -- 854MHz -- 3.86GHz -- 3.8430GHz -- 1.xxxxxv --- 1.5xv -- 1.5xxv --- xx,xxx -- xx,xx ---- x,xxx --- x,xxx ---- P10,xxx --- xx,xxx -- x,xxx
Still working on it...
For each FSB test, I rebooted and waited for all disk activity to stop. I ran Vantage first, then 3DMark06 second. Each program only received 1 run, and data was recorded.
Chart data recorded:
FSB selected - What DDR2 Frequency will be required - How fast the BIOS reports when booting - How fast CPU-Z reports from Vista - Lowest voltage required to Prime 2hrs (BIOS setting) - Everest reported Core voltage - CPU-Z reported core voltage - 3DMark06 score using default settings - 3DMark Vantage using default settings.
Between the memory being faster, and me being able to OC from 3.4GHz, to 3.8GHz on my CPU, I added 1,800 to 1,900 points onto my 3DMark06 score.
Not too bad for some cheep ram! ;)
FYI - I am just starting to get a grip on a lower core voltage at stock settings, can be an indication of a good chip. The lower the better.
Over in the 'Official Q6600 Overclocking' thread, it was posted that the L7 series Q6600's were the last of the 'real good' over-clockers.
My chip is L726B397, and the first time I ever powered my Maximus on at stock settings, CPU-Z reported my core voltage at only a skinny 1.224v's.
Ref link with picture: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=160606&page=5 (Near the bottom)
This chip might actually have been a pretty good catch?
Now that I am paying attention to it, not too many guy's have been reporting theirs that low by default.
Currently with just my CPU and NB in my loop, my max temp's don't cross 60C two hours into Prime! Usually around 55C most of the time on all 4 cores. It only spikes to about 59C for a few seconds, even when I'm hitting my chip with 1.5v's.
I will say that BIOS 1004 takes a wee bit more core voltage than 907 did, for me to be able to Prime 3.81GHz error free.
My CPU voltage was 1.51250v (BIOS) under 907, and Primed four hours error free, -vs- 1.53125v (BIOS) under 1004, Primed two hours error free.
Signature Updated! :p:
Great post Talonman! :up: Glad that ram worked for ya!!! :)
Thanks... :cool: (Me too!)
Did almost all of the Maximus boy's go Rampage?
Looks like the Rampage thread get's more action these days... :)
I haven't :P
I'm still running my Formula, probably going to until I have to upgrade again in a year or so.
I'm running at 3.6ghz right now with 1.272vcore stable and I'm getting ready to put my watercooling in, oh baby.
I am running 2GB of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 but I have ordered a set of 4GB 2x2GB sticks of Mushkin Redling DDR2 1000 .
I'm hoping with the watercooling put in that I can run my proc at 4.0ghz stable and leave the ddr2 1000 memory at 1:1 so it's running at 500mhz and not oc'ed. Might be able to get tighter timings than 5-5-5-12 with a bit more juice if I'm not oc'ing it.
I'll make sure to let you guys know how it's going once I get my project case done and everything in the damn thing lol.
Hi Tsaroth. You'll have trouble getting a 500 FSB with a Q6600. Also most of us are running the Rampage bios on the Maximus, rather than actually buying the Rampage.
You might be able to get 4.0 GHz out of your quad with some luck, so I hope you do. You can also run the Redlines on the 266 strap with a 400 FSB and that will give you 1000 MHz. Then you should look to tighten the tRD (in the Rampage bios you can do it directly, while in the MF bios it's through the Transaction Booster. You should be able to get to tRD 7 or even 6 with those sticks (Enabled: 0 or 1).
I didn't have much luck with tightening them much more at their stock speed, but you might get better sticks than the ones I had.
I have a problem!
I recently installed 8 gigs of corsair dominator (PC8500, CL5) on my maximus. Now it wont even boot to the BIOS screen! I have tried pushing the "clr CMOS"-button but that doesn't have any effect. I have tried removing 2 of the sticks but that does not work either.
I have not updated my BIOS since november which may be a problem?
And I can't get the lcd-poster to work because the connector is placed in such a horrible location.
Any suggestions?
If you are trying to do it in Vista I believe there is a problem with booting with more than 2GB atm. There is a hotfix but you have to apply it after you boot into the system with the 2GB.
Try booting with 1 stick of 2GB and see what happens.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuker_
Get that poster plugged in somehow! It's really helpful.
The other thing could be the default voltage in bios for the RAM. Try booting with just one stick installed and see what happens.
Have you tried powering down and removing the battery for a few minutes?
I'm using XP though. I'm probablygoing to dual boot now when I have ths much memory.
You mean removing the CMOS battery and placing it back again?
put 1 stick in the last white slot and see if she boots, if it does set dram volts to 2.12 ( the board over volts .8) that will give you the required 2.20 volts.
I would also flash to 1004 bios it is very very good
Yeah. Some guys have had to do that when their board gets completely stuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuker_
But try with one stick first and see if you can get into the bios and change settings.
It works! Thank you for the help! I'm probably going to flah to that rammpage BIOS now, which I put on my littleUSB memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
When I'm going to change to rampage BIOS it says "ID is incompatible" and doesn't flash... How did you guys flash it then??
You have to follow the instructions at the beginning of this thread
Yeah, I checked that thread. Now one problem has arisen, how do you make a slash or a backslash in ms dos? But I guess that's not a question for this thread... I have googled on all possible combinations of words without success, everyone seems to know how to make all kinds of signs, but no one will bother doing a tut on how to write these signs. o.O :s
Glad to see a few of us Pureblood Maximus boy's left. ;)
I just wanted to make sure I had a few buddies still out there that would want to talk some 907 and 1004 trivia... :p:
As a Maximus I can get 3.8GHz or even more, that is if I want to hit my chip with about 1.5V's and up. It's tempature would be fine, it's the chip melting inside that worries me.
There looks to be two camps to me on OC'ing a Q6600.
Camp 1 is only going to go a tad above recomended voltage settings, and just see what their chip will give them. That keeps them at 1.4v's or lower max. I believe intel suggests not going over 1.35v?
Camp 2 thinks with proper cooling, voltage isn't a problem, and will go close to 1.6v's.
I am not sure who is correct? :)
I wan't to believe camp 2 real bad, juce my chip to 1.5v's +, and run like the wind. On the other hand, my default 1.224v Q6600 is probably a pritty darn good chip. I really wouldn't want to do any permanent damage to it...
I don't mind however, making it squeal a bit though. :p:
I also wonder about the Maximus burning up its power chips too, if I were to run my Q6600 at close to 1.6v's.
I am currently trying to decide what my normal voltage should be. I would rather just have one 24/7 setting, but am starting to consider using the 2 slots for saved BIOS settings more. I could make one for just surfing, and the other as fast as I dare go on my voltage. Under bios 907 I did take this chip up to 3.9GHz for a short 45 minute Prime95 run. It did run error free too. :up:
Hey Talonman, although I now use a Maximus Rampage, a Rampage Formula and 2 9450s in lew of my Maximus Formula/ Q6600 combo, I did use the former at 1.5 actual for 4 months 24/7 and have a Q6600 G0 on air running 24/7 @ 1.5 vcore. The latter has been going about 6 months. About a year ago there was a thread asking who was running what at 1.5 and above 24/7. There were at least 3 pages of replies. It might be worth a new thread. Given your low temps I'd go 1.5 24/7 without hesitation if you were folding or doing something equally constructive. Running the high clock and voltage doesn't seem worth while if you have nothing utilizing 100% of the cpu while doing so. In that case I'd have 2 profiles saved. One for gaming/ benching. One for surfing and e-mail. My 2 cents. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Edit: And yes my sig needs updating. Just haven't gotten around to it.
Thanks for your input WFO! ;)
I've gone to 1.56 for daily use for periods of 1~3 months and back to 1.48v for the rest and over a period of 10 months I periodically go back to my 4GHz @ 1.56 for messing around or testing RAM and such for days and weeks sometimes so YES, 2 profiles work great for this. I do feel benching 24/7 over 1.5 is gonna show some wear after a point way much sooner then regular personal use. Mine are on at least 8~14hrs a day at most days. But I do leave for days so it gets plenty of rest.
Hi peeps,
just wondering where the Part 2 of this thread went. My "old" bookmarks don't work anymore...
<waves hi to Nuckinfuts>
the powers that be in there greatness have decided to merge the threads into 1 big muddy thread. It will be easier for everyone to find information this way:rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
:eek: Oh jeeez. Did they notice why we split it up actually? :shakes: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Well, where did the posts of part 2 go then, were they merged into this thread?
Most of it is in here somplace, other information is here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
it is more based on the Maximus to Rampage conversion but there is a tad of usefull stuff in there
I started working on a 3.6GHz setting, that I intend to use for just web surfing. I will save the 3.8GHz + for games only.Quote:
Originally Posted by WFO
My lapped Q6600 GO (L726B397) with a default vcore of 1.224v's, only requires 1.392v's to make 3.6GHz stable.
It did pass the OCCT mixed test for 1 hour error free, and have Primed it successfully for 4 hours. This shot is only a run of 1.5 hours, but just wanted to post a picture to keep things honest. ;)
I only get about 42C max temp on my CPU @ 1.392 volts.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6036/pic036zd1.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7290/run12oe6.jpg
Here is a 9x425 setting as well 6.5 hours prime blend stable, this is on a MAximus rampage hack but the settings will play nice with a Maximus Bios
All voltage is bios set not actual
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../3800final.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [6]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
I have had my DRAM Command Rate set as 2T. I just tried the 1T setting and it booted with no issues. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Now I get with Everest Memory benchmark:
Memory Read - 8,653 MB/s (+ 106 MB/s)
Memory Write - 7,738 MB/s (- 38 MB/s)
Memory Copy - 7,737 MB/s (- 94 MB/s)
Memory Latency - 57.8ns (0.8ns lower latency)
Going to chack 3DMark06 score now...
Update: 3DMark06 just froze on me using the 1T @ 3.8GHz setting. Trying to decide if something needs more voltage now?
Using my 3.6GHz setting and 1T ran fine, but my score was lower! odd...
Going back to 2T.
Any info the 1102 and 1201 bioses? Been posted recently:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ximus_Formula/
Edit:
I should go for the 1004 bios?..
JH_man
Any Q9450 overclockers here yet, to share OC experiences?
has anyone found a way around doing sli on this bord? another dumb qustion.. since it does not support sli will a 9800gx2 work on it?
No SLI on this board mate, GX2 works fine on the board...
Hi Nuckin and the rest,Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I just booted my E6600 B2 out today and got me a shiny new Q9300. I came to the conclusion that an extra 100 Euros (155 USD) aren't worth the extra 0.5 multiplier points...
However, what about the issues of AFAIK all current boards with quads, they seem to hit the ceiling at around 450-46 MHz FSB.
My Q9300 is a SLAWE C1 stepping, and I got 3.3 GHz stable without any issues with the old CPU's settings. My RAM works up to FSB 500/DDR2-1000.
What is to be taken special care of in Quads, considering the electric differences of the two dice under the hood?
Any specific forum treads about it, perhaps with special regards to the Maximus/Rampage boards?
:D
On BIOS 1201, S3 sleep and resume works mostly fine in Vista Ux64 when set at Auto but slave PATA device (using 2 PATA DVDRW in my setup) goes missing on resume, needing a reboot. Had kinda same problem on my P5W which was later fixed in newer BIOS versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
anyone try Corsair's DDR2 1142 (PC2 9136) in this board and will it work? Seems like it would :) Do you think there would be any big improvment over PC2 8500
thanks
NO, I haven't. I am still curious on how the 2x 2g kit of OCZ FLEX II perform on this mobo myself. Is the Corsair kit a 2x 2g or x1g kit? If at least a 2x 1g kit, I would predictat least comparable if not a little more head room or w/ less vdimm or maybe slightly relaxed trfc in auto. OCZ is defaulting to 50 or 55 trfc in AUTO for BIOS that donot allow loosening below 42. Others may do so as well.
Corsair kit is 2x 2G (4Gkit) it's not cheap so I'm not sure it is worth the upgrade. It would be neat to go to the 1333FSB Quad Core at some point and 4G of this memory but not
sure if it would make a huge difference
thanks
Running ram at 1200MHz had a huge impace on Latency and bandwidth, so I can assume going above that will really increase read and copy times alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullysnet
I have been looking at the Corsair 1000MHz dimms but I'm going to 8GB's so they would be a rather pointless purchase.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
do you mean the XMS2-10000 ?? that is BIG money :D but if you can afford it sweet :up:
Hi guys I have a question for anyone and I sort of need to make a decsion quick :) I have a EGVA 9800GTX and I have a chance to upgrade for shipping cost only to the EVGA GTX 260
Do you think it would be better than what I already have? I know it is more memory but not sure, I don't want to go backwards. I would love to get the GTX 280 but that would be 150. more (which is not too bad)
thanks anyone :)
If it was me, i would change...
I've changed from a 8800GTS 512 to an ATI 4870 (more or less the same performance that the GTX 260), and i've noticed a lot.
Go for it mate !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sullysnet
sweet guys :) thanks for the info, I didn't want to go to a less powerful card. Would piss me off to trade from good to less
My Q6600 takes 1.50v (actual) 1.525 (bios) just go stablize at 3.55ghz. It's a G0 stepping. Loads at 60* on water cooling with an apogee GT. Any ideas? Because this is higher than just about everybody else runs on moderate clock voltage.
Hey guys, I've got my E6750 running comfortably at 4ghz (stress tested with prime, 3dmark06 looped etc). I did try for a wee bit higher but I think i'm lacking something. 4.1ghz and 4.2ghz both boot but 4.2GHz blue screens after everything finishes loading whilst 4.1ghz is solid until you play games or test in after 3hrs as it random restarts.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500 (510, 515 and 525 have been attempted)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.5875v (1.6 has been tried)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I'm using Adata Extreme DDR2 1200 - none of my overclocks seem to like it very much if I tell it to run at a certain speed but it's happy on auto but I think if I recall its either running 1050 or 1250...
Any ideas? I think it's still got some kick left to take it further. Will lap the bugger if need be!
~Bex
Hey all
After my main work rig took a dive and I went to my newer rig I pull out all my equipment from the old work rig.
Maximus Formula SE & QX6700 which was OC'd to 3.2 back then. Turns out it was my memory that went out after testing.
So I have set the Max and QX6700 with new memory up on my bench and plan to use it as my first runs with LN2. But before I started using LN2 on it I wanted to get back into getting the feel of this board. So it’s setup on stock cooling, nothing fancy, yet…
The BIOS on the board was 0401, the machine came up and running fine with Vista SP1, all setup stock and doing fine. I took a look here and saw that 1004 was what everyone seemed to be using so I flashed that, all good and booted fine.
So I go let’s get to some OCing
I reboot to the BIOS and set it manual, but I cannot change the CPU Multi or FSB. I select CPU Multi or FSB and hot return, nothing happens. Hmmm…
I then installed AISuite and I can change things there fine, reboot and the OC works.
Going back into the BIOS I can see the changes I made with AISuite but I still cannot change the CPU Multi or FSB.
It appears I have a stuck BIOS :(
I have reflashed 1004, no help. So pulled the battery out over night and will see if that helped.
But in the mean time while I read through this very long thread about how to unstick the BIOS, I think I saw it someplace last night but I cannot remember where it was, can anyone give a hand on how to do this while I look ?
Thanks again
Will I was able to flash back to 0907 but still seems to be stuck :(
There must be setting your overlookingQuote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
Post your bios setup and we can see where the trouble is
I have been watching this thread since November 2k7 and I dont recall a bios stuck fix
Well all settings are at Auto.
If I set it to Manual so I can change the CPU Multi or FSB they will do nothing. I can move the cursor to the setting I want to change and hit return but that does not bring up any sub menu, it does nothing. All other settings I can change.
If I can to Crazy or the other settings that will work, but it will not show any of the FSB or CPU changes. They do work when I boot up and get into Vista.
AISuite will alow me to change those settings, and they will show up when I get into the BIOS, I just cannot change them in the BIOS.
odd problem
There is only a sub menu for memory, you have to enter the value manually for FSB and multi.
The first part should look something like this,
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
Don't type in manually, use the + and - keys on your keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
I've always done it manually and never had an issue, + - keys take to long lol
But I suppose if hes having trouble then thats a good method
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Well that worked, using the +/- keys. Man I remember hitting the return key and a sub menu pops up and you would scroll through that. Maybe that was the Striker board I have also.
Gezz I feel stupid now. Thanks all :)
Was the 0401 BIOS like that, hit return and a sub menu pops up ?
For certain items yes there all like that.
Glad its working for you now :up:
Yeah it is, thanks all :)
It's been a very long time that I have even looked at OC this board, had it all set up and just forgot about it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
As a side note buckeye, do you seriously have 8x 32GB SSD drives? Isn't that almost $10,000 of disk drives?
Some of the menus do that, some dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
Yeah I know crazy eh. It's fast tho !Quote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=185677
That rig is waiting on Phase cooling
That's where my head has been, in the SSD area for awhile. Now it's time for some LN2 benching which I finally have all the equipment I need for that. So brushing up on on OCing (as you can see I need some work in that area LOL) before I get my feet wet with LN2 :)
The Maximus/QX6700 will be the first victims, err test equipment for me to punish without too much fear of losing much. Hey you gotta start some where :rofl:
Ok then, it's been a good 6 months since I have posted in this thread. I have been running my 2.66ghz E6550 stable at 3.5ghz all this time!
Problem is I am getting a bit twitchy for a Quad Core now. Been looking at the Q9450 so I have a few questions...
Does the Q9450 work alright in this board?
What can I expect out of it, as stable Overclock?
Thanks
Edit: What is the latest Bios? Should I change anything else on the mobo??
New bios official non-beta from 5 August 2008:
Link for BIOS 1207
ftp://dlsvr.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/soc...rmula-1207.zip
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1207.zip
Q9450 runs fine on this board altho you'll need the 1201 bios,you should beable to get to 3.4 with ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by thelawns
Oh that's great then thanks... What would be the recommended processor at the moment for this board do you think?? For the best overclock... :confused:
Well, for the BEST overclock you'd get a QX9770. If you're on a budget like most of us, then get the best 45nm that you're willing to pay for.Quote:
Originally Posted by thelawns
Yeah, fair comment thanks...
bought the GTX260 (trade up EVGA) but for some reason I am getting major lag that I didn't get before. Even when viewing pictures and trying to move a big picture up and down (too see the whole picture) but I also noticed it in Unreal 2004
Has anyone seen something like this? Could it be the latest Nvidia drivers? I've been trying everything I can think of. I went from a 9800GTX to the GTX260
thanks
EDIT:returned the card for RMA
What's the latest/best BIOS for 45nm quads now?
Did ASUS ever manage tofixc the :banana::banana::banana::banana:in FSB wall?
The latest BIOS is the 1207.
you can found it here: http://support.asus.com/download/dow...imus%20Formula
Cool, thanks. Is there any special thing I should know if I'm on a Rampage one?Quote:
Originally Posted by SxL
Any tips for Maximus Formula and Q9300?This CPU seems to be a pest,cant find proper bios nor right settings to with.
I think im gonna downgrade to dual soon if this wont take more FSB than 440.
double post
Wow man, the rig just popped itself!
TRipped the appartment fuze box.
Strange cooking smell.
Wierd, was just sitting there idle, not long turned it on, clean as.... and only a paltry OC to 3 Ghz. Maybe was just the power unit, but i fear the linger smell is not from the power box...OOOhh.... can't be my Q6600... i had it stable as man... ran at 50% load for hours.
I got about 3 waranties on this thing, so i'm going to the maker and we get a little analyticals.
....Back soon, take a pill..... :confused:
Does anyone recommend any other memory besides Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz? Using the Maximus Forumla. I was thinking about G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1100 (PC2 8800) the board says it will go to 1200Mhz on RAM but O.C.
So I am not sure if it means I can install something like the G.Skill or OCZ at higher than 1066.
I am in the process of RMA for the second time on the Dominator memory and to say that I am unhappy is an under statement. Around Thanksgiving it will be 1 year since I built this machine and every six month it seems the Dominator 1066 seems to fail one stick. Memtest86+ fails every test (sea of red)
Any suggestions would be great.... thanks
I had about the same luck as you with Dominator's on this board. Bought some G. Skill(2x2gb) pc-8000(pq) running 1081mhz and havent had a prob. in the last 8 month's.
I would say get the G. Skills they seem to work good on this board
thanks friend :up: funny part is I started to scan through the board and found that almost 75% maybe more are using GSkill ram so I bought the 4G kit of 1066 :) I will hopefully :wiggle: get the RAM today from Newegg.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutkikz
I sent out the Dominator RAM for RMA but I plan on possibly selling it :down:
just popped in the Gskill 4G kit 8500 I hope this memory last longer than the Dominator memory. At some point I think I need to sell off the RMA'd Dominator memory or keep it as spare memory. hutkikz what bios revision are you using with your GSkill?
thanks
Here is the PC Probe voltage reading can anyone tell me if I have my voltage too high for my new RAM and if I do have it too high how do I set it to the correct voltage so I do not hurt this memory
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2368/proberk9.png
I'm using Rampage bios 0501 because of my current E8600 but my fav is 0308. I was able to run 1066 5-4-4-12 1N w\ these sticks on 0308. havent used MF bios since 0903
Edit: G Skills dont really respond to high volts I usually dont need more than 2.0v on mine
reason to use the Rampage seems to be if you have the 45nm processorQuote:
Originally Posted by hutkikz
I still have 65nm Q6600
I am waiting to upgrade to the Core I7 :up:
actually only had this e86 a short while, was on a e6750 before that. I use Rampage because I get better clocks w\ it regardless of proc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hutkikz
cool thanks
do my voltages look okay in that screen shot? Sorry I just want to make
sure I am not hurting the memory. I plan to upgrade the bios to 1207
2.21v is kinda high, I run mine at 2.0v in pc probe. since this board overvolts the ram .08v I have it set at 1.92v in bios.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hutkikz
sorry I found it, I researched the 2.0~2.1 but this http://www.gskill.us/166.pdf recommended 2.0 and that is what I am set to now so I will leave it.
THe FBS strapped to North Bridge at 333 what will that get me?
thanks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=128913
This should help explian
thanks I will check it out :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by hutkikz
Just need your assistance.
I'm about to RMA my Maximus Formula due to sensor readings.
False readings are, might be:
a. PSU RPM
b. CPU RPM
c. MB TEMP
d. NB TEMP
e. SB TEMP
e. g. Everest Ultimate:
They idle version, non OC.Quote:
Informationsliste Wert
Sensor Eigenschaften
Sensortyp W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Extreme / Formula
Gehäusezutritt gefunden Nein
Temperaturen
Motherboard 33 °C (91 °F)
CPU 27 °C (81 °F)
1. CPU / 1. Kern 37 °C (99 °F)
1. CPU / 2. Kern 35 °C (95 °F)
1. CPU / 3. Kern 33 °C (91 °F)
1. CPU / 4. Kern 34 °C (93 °F)
North Bridge 55 °C (131 °F)
South Bridge 50 °C (122 °F)
WDC WD740GD-00FLA0 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Kühllüfter
CPU 1406 RPM
Stromversorgung 1432 RPM
Spannungswerte
CPU Core 1.14 V
+3.3 V 3.25 V
+5 V 4.94 V
+12 V [ TRIAL VERSION ]
+5 V Bereitschaftsmodus 4.92 V
FSB VTT 1.30 V
North Bridge Kern 1.38 V
South Bridge Kern 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.54 V
DIMM 2.24 V
DIMM VTT 1.12 V
Well, I'm familiar to Intel data sheets and X38 won't die 'till around a hundred °C.
PSU RPM is 1420-1500 max., different case fans (Noctua/Scythe/Loonies, even off do not change either CPU nor PSU RPM signifiatilly)
CPU RPM is 1380-1430 max., impossible due to vendor specs.
NB TEMP idle 55°C, load exceeds 67°C
SB TEMP idle 50°C, load exceeds 62°C
During boot there is a "OPT3" failure message to be resumed by F1.
Well, when they Panhead's got no E-start, I'm not looking for a switch.
Any conclusion?
What bios version are you running and what Version of Everest?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fool
Everest is v4.20.1170, no different readings comparing various software including PC Probe II V1.04.40. Hardware Monitor f. s. as well.
BIOS, I'm back to 0401 because I recognized Die/Core readings given most realistic values for my QX6850. Got the whole pack 'till 1207, but I didn't try every version.
QX6850 is no engineering sample (none of those coming in little black PU-boxes).
If only the NB/SB-Temps would worry, I'd ask the hairdryer and and one of my thermal compounds to solve it (ref. P5W-DH, complete absence of TC on some early revisions).
My Maximus Formula is "7A..." prod. code.
@ sullysnet
Tryed different dual kits on my board. When going for Dominators check revisions, different ones could cause trouble (even same SPD's).
For your purpose I'd go for Micron Chips, D9GMH or D9GKX, even not listed in vendors QVL, MB will start with initial release BIOS all slots populated.
Depends as well a bit to your location and RMA regulations.
The only vendor I know granting chips is CellShock (preselected Microns, I've tested 30 passes Memtest 86+, no failure), but if you like orange heatspreaders, go for Crucial and check it out.