I wish I got the p5q-pro. damn me for getting a board with only 1 pcie x16 :(
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I wish I got the p5q-pro. damn me for getting a board with only 1 pcie x16 :(
They were about the same performance as the Redlines mate, but the Mushkins could handle 266 strap while the Gskills couldn't do that ( at first I thought it was my setttings but it was the ram) with the same timings...(meaning PL and Clock twister) Ram subtimings I always left on AUTO. I just set 5-5-5-15 TRFC 55 for both kits and 1.92Vdimm woked liek a charm on my both P5Q Dlx and E board
Both kits passed 1100mhz pretty easy without exuberant volts...
Well after close to a month tweaking this thing I give up... Can't break 4gig for the life of me :( Just don't know if it is board or the CPU (E8400 E0) that is dud :/ Memory oc like crazy but no use for that
About the best I can do with this setup with reasonable voltages...
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Larry
Hello Again
I have a little trouble with the Board.
I made a lot of tests with several softwares to look for a stable system.
So far it was all ok. Runned Orthos a long time in Priority 9 and Intel Burn Test with 15 Passes without error.
I made a long test with prime95 too and Memtest86 to have a look for errors but it was all ok.
Now when i start Games,randomly, the system freezes the picture stops and i hear only stuttering audio and nothing helps only by pushing the reboot button i can restart the system,this can happen after 5min of game or 1 hour random.
Does anyone expect the same problem with the Board, stable tests and when gaming the system hangs ?
My config is
P5Q Deluxe
G.Skill F2 8500 1066Mhz @ 1080Mhz same problem a 900Mhz 5.5.5.15
Intel E8400 Cooled By Noctua NH-U12P
NVidia GTX260 POV
With FSB 400 for CPU and 1066Mhz Ram i didn't expect it right now but i am still testing.
The same problem i have expected on Maximus 2 Formula with the same hardware.
What can be the problem ?
Anyone help me please.
TNX
Which games are we talking about ? have you enabled Vsync for these games and locked PCI express frequency at 100 or 101 ?
Board desing it is not, as 500FSB daily is really nothing. Either you got a bad or unlucky board or something else is terribly wrong... did you already fill in a template ? and plz list all of ya hardware... 4ghz with a wolfdale should be absolutely no problem
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3538513]Which games are we talking about ? have you enabled Vsync for these games and locked PCI express frequency at 100 or 101 ?
GTA IV,Crysis Warehead,Race Driver Greed.
No,Vsync is deactivated in Games and the Pci Express Frequency is Fixed to 101Mhz.
The curious thing is that it happens an 2 Boards With P45 Chipset.
I do not esxpect a Memory problem cause the tests are 100% ok.
It happens when i go in 3D with games only.
Can it be the Pocessor ? Maybe unlucky one ?
My PSU is a Tagan 700W i tryed another Tagan 700W too, same prob.
I have a pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400 2x2Gb that arrived today, what do you think about them for this Board compared to My G.Skill's ?
Well we and others have experienced this too on other P45 platforms. For me to get my games stable I just had to activate Vsync in the games that locked my Pc (IBT, Prime whatever you name it, it was stable) just not in GTR2, enabling Vsync saved my day...
This is the first time in years of pc usage that I needed to enable Vsync... try it and report back plz
I had a very similar problem when I upraded to 8gb of ram. I would get odd stuttering in games. I was Memtest 86+ and 3.8 stable, Prime 16+ hours stable. The only test that I could get to fail was IBT, but it took like 20 runs. When I poped in the new kit alone the stuttering got a bit worse but I still wouldnt fail any tests other than IBT. Im running fine right now with my old 2x2gb kit after a format.
Run furmark and monitor the temps of the GPU ( via everest home eg ) ,does it do the same when running no OC ? you could try the other rams too ofcourse... but it's weird you experienced this on the maximus formula 2 too...
I run HCI memtest in windows, memtest via Dos doesn't always find errors with 2GB dimms... and prime what did you run ? small FFT , blend ? for how long ? IBT is nice as a final stress test but is not that good in finding ram errors either...
last queston did you reinstall the OS after the mobo swap ?
The GPU temp is monitored all the time when i play and the temp is about 50°C with the fan @60%. No when i am out of OC the system runs stable.
Yes i installed the OS 3-4 times now while testing and changing hardware.
I had run memtest86 via dos several time with no errors.
When i launch HCI memtest from windows the system slows a lot down and HCI memtest is trying to fill my swap file and did not work,for this i wrote to HCI for further information.
The same hardware i a m using was tested on a Commando Board and it runs stable 4ghz 24/24.
I am going to try the Crucial Ram now.
Having problems getting 500fsb stable on my e8500. can anyone help? this chip is stable at 485*9.5 btw.
I have 4x1gb OCZ 8500 SLI ....easily do 1186mhz @ 2.16V actual
Quote:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: 11
CPU Voltage: 1.40625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .655
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .655
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: .63
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED
Vcore 1.275 in bios:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8...shot004eq7.jpg
With P5Q Deluxe 1702m:clap:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 471
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.2750
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED
I really have no idea what I'm doing wrong... CPU is cooled with TRUE 120 and Scythe fan. Temps are fine even with 1.4 Volts.Code:AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 440 (445 is no go)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: auto (so rest of mem things are auto as well I guess)
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: moderate
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.4000 (tried fooling around with this setting but no luck)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : auto
NB Clock Skew : auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED
and the CPU menu it is all disabled
Rest of the system...
2x2 Gig Corsair 4GB (KIT) DDR2 1066MHz, XMS2-8500
750 W Corsair PSU.
Antec 1200 Case
2 SATA HD (not raid)
8800 GTS 512 MB
IDE DVD burner
Vista Ultimate 64
I'm testing with Orthos for stability and the poor thing is failing. 4 gig is no go sadly. Tried lowering multi but still 4Gig is impossible to pass. RAM passes memtest in every possible way up to 1000 FSB haven't tried higher. No idea what to do and what to try. Latest drivers and BIOS ofc
Sorry for stupid question, where is located NB on P5Q Deluxe? :D
500+ fsb whit QX6850
PLL 1.56V
FSB 1.36V
NB 1.44v
i've seen the recent posts of Q9550 and it seems like good info but i'm at 3.9 ghz with 460 fsb and all my settings match angelreaper's but i cant get thru a benchmarch (pcmark06) without freezing.
i raised the vcore to 1.3000 and semms stable now
You might want to flash to 1702m, Im having good luck with it and have heard nothing but good things.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=200109
Try these mate :
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: 11
CPU Voltage: 1.40625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26 --> try up to 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED
I would try higher FSb mate as I needed 1.3 to get 4.5 stable on my E8500... but each CPU is different...
Try the above to see if we can get 500FSB stable ( I would set 7 multi ) try to go as low on the Vcore as possible ( I usually test 30 minutes Small FFT, if all passes, I lower Vcore one or two notches and test again, till it fails, then I up two more that should keep it sort of stable)
First thing is to get the CPU stable then tweaks later on
It's under the heastink that is just below ya CPU (with the blue Asus logo on it)
Some people claim that they can use less voltage with Ket's bios than the vanilla one, I'm very sceptical of those claims... as his biosses did nothing for any of my 3 boards... but his biosses added ram support tables which can help out others , but if he modified the voltages etc dunno bout that... Form 1611 on I could drop a notch lower on the Vcore but that was a vanilla one
Setting 7 multi was no problem with these settings, should I try higher multi or lowering vcore?
*update*
Setting 7.5 multi was no problem either passed without a problem. Setting multi 8, pc wouldn't even boot. Just the fans spinning. I upped the Vcore to 1.35 and bluescreened upon entering Windows... Any ideas?
Well , I can use a bit less than 1406, but I also needed more voltage than I needed for 1406 than I needed for 0803. I saw a few other people posting the same thing here about 1406. I doubt that it did anything for me that the vanilla bios couldnt do. I had origionaly flashed it because I was having ram issues. I just rmaed my other 2x2gb kit, but it wouldnt hurt to try out an mbios. :shrug:
More Vcore then mate try straight 1.45 and then try to go lower...
Ofcourse it can't hurt if done correctly... but my point is that I read already a few times and on german forums too that voltage control is better on the Mbiosses (read that they can use lower Vcore etc...), I have serious doubts Ket even adressed that part of the bios (Vcore droop/drop, GTL's etc...)...
is anyone having problems with wireless networks and skype with this board?
deluxe dont have onboard wireles. Do you ave problems with pci-e card ?
I keep my coretemps sub 65°C under IBT.. think you got a very bad Wolfdale CPU that needs massive amounts of volts for a normal OC... Aim for 1.4 then to feel safer...
Does your TRUE feel loose when it's screwed down ? I inset a small piece of adhesive tape under the pressure point so the mount is better ( drops my temps also another 3-4°C)
I had no probs with the Dlink DWL922 kit with USB dongle... have you tried updated drivers/firmware for your wireless instalation ?
try 7.5 multi and see how low you can go on the vcore
I think chip is obviously dud. So I'm just gonna give up and live with what I've got. Poor thing need 0.1 vcore increase for less than 200Mhz. Something is wrong there :(
Hello to all ...this is my first post here and just wanted to say thanks to all that shared their settings and tips. I know 4ghz is no big deal anymore but still here it is ....p5q deluxe mushkin redlines 2x2 gb e8400
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/...2d94f961_o.jpg
i could use some help getting my new LG GGC-H20L Blu-ray drive connected to the Marvell sata ports. I put it on the ich10r ports and it works fine, so i know nothing is wrong with the drive or the cable. i also put plugged in an ide drive and the Marvell chipset detected it during post. what i can't do is get the Marvell chipset to detect the blu-ray drive during post. I assume it should see the drive during post, right?
And how did you know that the voltage regulation and co on the premium board was better than the other versions ? you just try it or do you see that via ya bios readers....What's the physical difference between the Dlx and the Premium in the voltage section ? or the bios...
does the marvell controller support ATAPI devices, or hdd only?
What's the latest rev of the bios? I'm going to spend today trying to overclock for the first time :)
edit: is there a "most stable" template for a q9450 at a fairly mild OC? (Air) The thread is so damn long I don't think I'll ever find it otherwise :rofl:
edit2: I think I found the latest bios (1702) here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=210531 - let me know if that's no good with the 9450... until then, I'm on a search for a q9450 stable OC template to start from :)
do you guys use the standard BIOS or mBIOS in the other thread?? I'm going to try the mBIOS and start with settings I found from someone who has similar hardware as I do:
Does that look OK? The CPU voltage seems a bit high...Quote:
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO (8)
FSB Frequency: 463
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: AUTO (1:1)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 05
PULL-INS: DISABLED (ALL OF THEM)
CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.635
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.635
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 2.06
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
same mobo and a q9450 here...mine runs on very low voltage so no lower voltages aren't strange......I wouldn't recommend jumping to 3.6 right from 2.6....remember right now your fsb is at 333, instantly jumping it to 463 wouldn't be so smart, and I almost new to overclocking and I know this
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 05
PULL-INS: DISABLED (ALL OF THEM)---------what does this do?
CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.635----how do you find the right setting or are they all the same?
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.635----how do you find the right setting or are they all the same?
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 2.06
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60------------thought this wasn't important
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
what about clock skews?
Hello Again
If you remember the problem i had.
Now i supposed a problem of compatibility between C0 Step CPU's and My Mobo and i changed my CPU to an E8600 Step E0 to test this.
The result is the same, at High FSB (over 430Mhz) and using the system playing, the system freezes like with the CPU before.
I writed on Asus forum too and i fuond a person that have the same problem.
So i think that is really annoing cause potentially i can run 500Mhz FSB and test it without problems but when i go in High Stress while Gaming it does not work.
The only thing is to hope that Asus solve this little problem.
At the moment My system runs 420x10 CPU FSB and Memory is @560Mhz, no issues and all voltages at minimum SB 1.20 NB 1.20 CPU 1,25V.
I will give you more feedback if i find something new.
TNX
OK i have a asus P5Q3 deluxe, an intel E8600, and gskill ddr3 1600 RAM, I so far have only been able to over clock it to 4.4 Ghz stable, with my CPU voltage at 1.462. With at 10x CPU ratio with and FSB of 440. But i see that theres alot of diff. options i could change to maybe get it faster. I want to try to push 5 GHz on this CPU, but i cant keep it stable. I would like to know even if the mobo is able to do that. And if it is how can i do that.
P.S. temp. is not a problem at 4.4Ghz on a full load its still running a 25 to 29 C.
CPU voltage differs from CPU to CPU mate, that's for you to find out. If your quad runs happily at 1.25Vcore set it like that...
Templates are what works for once's specific hardware... I would just take them as a guideline and would always start a bit lower on the volts ( surely FSB term voltage ) and work ya way slowly up eg from 450 to 475 or whatever FSB you require.
1) it's like dropping a half on the Performance level so eg you set PL 9 and with all pull ins enabled you should get 8.5PL in performance... doesn't work on all biosses and differs from board type to board type
2) GTL tuning could be required : test ya CPU with small FFT and if eg it's always the same core that caps out try lowering the first value till it gains in stability (write that figure down), at a certain moment it will become unstable again (write it down) and go half way for the final setting... GTL tuning can take some but is a MUSt with modern quads with high FSB action
3) I never had to use PCI E voltage this high, I always lef tit on AUTO , but some users claimed it overvolted ( I don't even know where to read this value on these boards via a DMM, think it is pure speculation on their behalf)
Don't think it has got anything specific to do with the board mate, maybe more a setting or something with ya rams or PSU not being 100% okay or compatible. I even gamed at 550FSB daily and never had this freezing issue you seem to have... You had this on the MF II too and not on the Commando...
If you think that your CPU puts out 29°C at 4.4Ghz either you are running chilled water or your temp read outs are completely bugged... 5ghz daily is a no go, forget about that unless running phase cooling... In your case I would try to stabilise 9 x 500 with 1600Mhz ram speed :up:
I changed everything i have,ram , graphic card and psu.Anytimr thr same.Can be some finetuning.....
No, i am using for a case is the xclio advance wind tunnel, then for a cpu cooler the Ultra chilltec CPU cooler. Pretty much the best cooling combo for air.
Just try 9 x 420, does it happen then too... 1.25Vcore for 4.2 is already a nice CPU, sure that's enough ? and why do you guys push 1.2 through the SB ? Any particular reason for that ? Plz fill in the template with all your settings
and you want to stabilize xxGhz ?
Sorry i made a little mistake my SB is 1.10V
Here is a little template of settings used @ 420x10FSB and Memory 1120Mhz
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 07
PULL-INS: DISABLED (ALL OF THEM)
CPU Voltage: 1.2750 (Bios) 1.256 (IDLE) 1.265 (Full Load)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
Now if i pass to 430Mhz FSB independent of Memory Clock the system Freezes in High Stress Games.
For example @450x9 FSB,Memory @ 1080Mhz and PL10 i searched stability with IBT and other Softwares and My system was 100% Stable,naturally the voltages are higher @ this FSB but in High Stress Gaming it Freezes after a while.
I wish i could stabilize My System at a Higher FSB like 450x9 or 500x8 for a higher bandwith of Bus.
I know that 420x10 is a very good result but it is nice to play with Bus too.
Maybe i have to set GTL but i am not shure how to proceed to find right setting.
TNX for your help.
Try this for a test plz, voltages might be a bit too much but we have to start somewhere :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 7
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100 or 101
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.25
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Sure mate go ahead, but i would up Vcore to 1.3 eg and if not stable up , if stable lower a notch... try 8 multi and eventually 8.5... hope it works now, later on we can try to get the rambandwith a bit better...
yeah, i really don't know what i'm doing. :rofl:
I'm going to just start messing around with that template that I posted earlier and hope for the best :up:
Using my sig system, I managed to OC to 2.97ghz, stable. Then by changing the FSB frequency from 366 -> 400 without changing anything else, I got 3.2ghz... at first. It's actually bouncing back and forth between 2.4ghz & 3.2ghz... I'm guess that means I need to raise the voltage a bit to really suport that FSB?
Edit: I couldn't even go back to 2.97 stable using the previously good values. So now I re-loaded all defaults and my core speed is ranging from 2ghz to 2.3ghz :shrug: I'm thinking it has to do with the bios and my q9450 not liking it... I've heard problems with them in the past. I should mention I've been using mbios 1406 from Ket. I'm going to try the newer bios version from Asus at this point and hope for better results... I'm not sure what else I can do.Quote:
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO (8)
FSB Frequency: 366, 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: AUTO (1:1)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 05
PULL-INS: DISABLED (ALL OF THEM)
CPU Voltage: 1.25
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.635
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.635
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.06
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
Any thoughts/suggestions??
@Leeghoofd
about your advice on this bios setting...
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
i'm wondering that you guys don't have any problem at all with the setting on auto?
this due to myself have been using 2 P5Q-Ds and also known from friends for another 5-6 P5Q-Ds boards
i can't almost do anything overclock if i set that to auto, for quite a while that the systems not even stable at stock clock speeds without manually setting the GTL_ref.
i may have had recieved the worst batch of bios and boards from asus.
quick question !
after some quick PM's to Leeghoofd about some E8400 clocking i found a stable 4.0Ghz OC with my stock cooler.. and yesterday when i booted, NOTHING happened so i tried again and saw the boot logo. But the logo went away much faster than it should have and i got a new screen saying i need to recover my bios :(
so here i am at stockspeeds wondering if i did something wrong or if i got a faulty board ? cus i ran the oc stable for a few days ! did some 3dmark runs and gamed alot..
anyone know what happened ? cus i wanna do some more overclocking as i get my TRUE cooler in the next 2 days <3
Hi!
I'd like to ask a question. Do I need to rasie fsb termination voltage to overclock RAM? I am at 1200 with 2,1V and it dont wanna get over 1200 for anything I do, I adjusted vDIMM and NB voltage, as well as performance level, but in vain, the Hyper Pi 32M and memtest fails. And a nother interestin thing: if Iease on P level, there is a limit, which I cannot pass, at lower fsb and mem clock about 15-16, and at higher clocks 13-14, so the board dosent post at all over these...why is that? :confused:
Well, I'm an overacting idiot, of course. the 3.21ghz was stable... it was my CPU power saving ability where it lowers the multiplier and reduces the power consumption that made it look like it was all over the place... I never really stopped to watch it on CPU-Z before trying to OC today. Anyway, here's the results of what I managed to get so far on air:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ghz_433FSB.jpg
I'm not going to try to push it any further until I get water on the system although I do kind of wonder what it will do with 466FSB... maybe I'll give that a go before calling it a day :)
I didn't need the tune GTL's to have a stable OC with Duallies up to 500FSB, with the quads from 450FSB manual intervention was needed... I had 2 Dlx and one E board and none of them required GTL tuning for my daily clocks... only for the 600FSB runs it took a long time to get it right ( and think it was pure luck too lol)
Plz do not run 4ghz on the boxed cooler mate... set it one multi lower then... do you recall ya bios settings (NB, FSB term ?) For me a non boot was the result of too low FSB term voltage... but plz pm me the bios settings and we will have a look...
mine couldn't do anything at all without GTL's setting manually, or even i could boot bios and boot into Windows at around 400-430fsb or so with GTL_ref on auto but any system stress test will fail in no time. and that was the first board that i got from a friend, brand new board and could be a very first batch of boards in retail store. then it took me a while, i couldn’t make it happen for just a stock cpu speed and to be a stable system for an office use computer, took quite a time as well before i could get some GTL_ref value for each c2d and c2q cpus i tried at the time.
then later i have another board for myself, and it's same thing, but this timei already know. lol.
@Leeghoofd
I have some good news. But first Thank you very much for your help.
1st Screen
CPU Voltage: 1.256
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
LINK
2nd Screen
CPU Voltage: 1.288
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Link
In the first screen i can also enable CE1,Virtualization and Disable Bit.
In the second it is all disabled only Disable Bit is Enabled.
This is more than enougth for the moment.
I will have more tests tomorrow if i have time.
Great Job for the moment.
ive read somewhere before that we should "burn in" the cpu before oc'ing is that true?
did they write about how to burn in a cpu?
lol good. im close to being done with my rig
What seems to be the max FSB on this board with a quad? The highest I have been able to boot is 507, increasing voltage and changing multi to 6.0 doesnt help. Is this generally the norm or should it be able to go higher?
over 500 is a quite qood result in every board from a 4 core CPU. It depends mostly on the processor( and the board as well ) what fsb you can reach, so you have a quite good chip I can tell ya man. :up:
I wouldnt think the cpu is limiting me here since I have tried changing the multi down to 6.0 and it didnt help any. I know some of the GB boards are benchable at around the 550 mark, so im wondering if just over 500 is the normal max for the P5Q with a quad.
To get higher you need to get off the 1:1, also better to have 1Gb dimms (max of 2GB) up the FSB term will make you be able to hopefully get higher... I had issues to get the quad stable at 4.5 (9 x 500) with 500FSB and 1000Mhz on the rams ,with 1200mhz ram speed it was easier to do... The GB boards have got the A3 rev of the NB and the board pushes way more volts... for 24/7 I prefer the Asus board as I got the same clockspeed with way less NB and FSB term voltage... for benching the Gb might be better... but does that NB get scorching hot...
My P5Q-Deluxe had a hard time going 500FSB for 24/7 on my quad. I made it stable too, but it seens the board was really at its limit.
Now with Maximus II Formula, things were easier...
Asus Maximus II Formula is doing 500FSB on my 65nm B3 quad for 24/7 now, with DDR2-1200 5-5-5-18 PL8 STRONGER. 100% stable with very low volts on everything. Bios 1901 and 100% aircooled rig / closed case. NB max temp is about 42C during stress test.
That is my 24/7 settings now. I am trying to make it stable @ 508-515FSB now, and I can boot @ 530FSB too.
I am using 2x1GB Corsair Dominator PC10000C5DF.
1.42v CPU
1.35v FSB
1.59v PLL
2.09v DIMM
1.44v NB
1.19v SB1.1
1.55v SB1.5
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/307/32603469ow2.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2472/mf2qqn8.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6536/full3mj8.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/987/full4is8.jpg
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nice clocks but you need more fans in your rig
Hehehe! They just don't fit anymore! I only use undervolted <28dB fans, so despite the number of fans, the noise level is really low. Also I keep it with closed door case, and inside of a cabinet I have here... You can't almost hear the thing.
The temps are "water-like". Check out my NB / SB and PWM load temps, during 2h of prime95 @ 3.2GHz.
This is on a Maximus II Formula. Rev02 chipset.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2604/temps1gi4.jpg
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Hoss331: every CPu has an fsb limit, which you cant pass, the quads mostly around 460-480( depends on if it is a Kentsfield or York ) , this means lowering the multi( = clock ) dose not help much. 500+ with a quad cpu is a gift,a bonus, what the avarage 4 core cpu-s cannot reach.
Simps: Can this machine lift up in the air at least? Just dont forget to fasten your seatbelt before the take off:hrhr:
Somtihng else...
After suffering with experimentig with BIOS settings to stabilize my DIMMs on 1200, and not getting a step forward, I decieded to leave almost every setting in BIOS on auto, I set vDIMM to 2,1V, fsb strap to 333, CPU multi to 8, vCore 1,23125V, Mem OC charger enabed, Dram static control, read training, CPU / PCIE Spread spectrum to disabled, and tried so, and I surprised, that the system was more stable, but not 100%. So I tweak some on the settings, I set PL from the default 8 to 9, didnt had an efdect on stability, but after that I enabled all the pull in-s ( I thought why not? I never did that before ), and the system was completly stable. After this I just wanted to clear up, what the boadr set on auto for vNB, vFSB, VPLL, cause dont wanna that it some of these get overvolted, and I am curious, what I set before wrong. So first I tried different levels of vPLL to fing out what the board has set, I tried from 1,50V, 1,52V, 1,54V ...and so on, but the system wasnt stable again, I wasted with the test and the system freezes an hour or more, until I set pll to 1,7V, and that was the correct value. I tried it on 1,72V and so it is unstable again. A thought man, whatta heck?:shrug: I dont even thought that the PLL anyhow would influence dram OC, and if it would, then the problem could be just that it dont gets enough voltage, dosent thought that the voltage could be to much. I dunno what the values of the other voltages( vFSB and vNB ) could be, but I dont wanna spend more time probing that. Someone could explain me what these pull- in phases are, and how they effect dram stability, and how pll is related to dram overclock. And of course I 'd fain know somehow without experimenting with BIOS settings what voltage is set on auto for NB and VTT, is there some software what can read this from BIOS? :confused:
Yeah, my chip has always run hot. At stock, it runs 50-55C under full load. When I first got it, it was running as high as 75C with the side of the case on... let's call it a burn test :p: TJmax was still pretty far off, so I'm OK with it as long as its under 65C, on air.
Right now it's actually not running any higher than 60C (after 12 hours) after opening the window :rofl: But, you're right with the watercooling and I just finished leak testing the setup I'm going to put in there and should be installing by the end of the week sometime. I am going to try and raise the FSB to 466 with the same vcore and see what happens once I have the WC loop setup. I may even put up a work log! :up:
Sorry for the Autoquote.
Leeghoofd what do you think about these runs ?
I am trusting a lot in IBT cause it a Very High Stressing Software to test Stability and i reccomend it to all who want to test stability.
I also tried today to set 430x10 without problem and i also activatet C1E to see if the system crashes in Games but it was 100% running.
4300Mhz with 1.28V on CPU.
But for daily use i think i will use 420x10 or 450x9 (if i can eneble C1E for the last one).
I will let you know further tests.
Need some help getting my P5Q-E stable at 450FSB, can run the CPU test in OCCT but memory and mix fails within 5 minutes and I know it's not the memory as it's rated and tested at higher speeds.
8.5*450fps
Current settings which are failing, memory is only at 900.
Strap: 333
CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
System..
P5Q-E
Q9550
4GB G-Skill F2 8500
GTX280
Corsair 750XT
X-Fi XtremeMusic
did you disable static readcontrol ? TRFC 55 ? which PL are you at ? Ram timings ? I would lower NB voltage to 1.26, Dimm voltage to 2.0 and try again... for me Bios 1406 was a requirement to get the E board flying.
Looking good Omiez but don't overdo it with the IBT, it stresses really too hard... I like it for a quick test ( 15-20 runs) but nothing more... for the rams and Nb I use 32Mb Hyperpi ( with an instance for each core )
Yes, don't know what TRFC is, PL? 1.56? 5.5.5.15, memory is tried and tested at 540 on a P35 so changing DRAM votlage seems a bit pointless, theres nothing wrong with the memory.
Don't see how changing from 1402 to 1406 will make any difference but I guess I could try that.
Thats not the problem, if it was id have the same issue at 3.6GHz (425*8.5) with the memory at 510(1020) but I don't.
Anyway, tried 1406, makes no difference, slightly annoyed as my old P35 did the same settings, this motherboard is no better for overclocking at all so far.
Try these mate :And coming from a solid performing P35 platform P45 is not a real upgrade unless you are running crossfire or a dual core for high FSB action...PHP Code:
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 900
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.35
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CME : Compatible or Performance
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
did you run Prime small FFT's ? Did you check each ram individually with HCI memtest ? Are you really on 1406 ? as running a previous version gives erratic behaviour with LLC enabled... Tried more Vcore eg 1.42 and LLC disabled ?
First of all yes, ran that for 3 hours with no issues at 3.8, it's mix and ram test that fail instantly.
Again, it's not the memory for reason posted here , yes i'm really on 1406.
LLC?
There is a new Intel Matrix Driver out for those like myself having problems with the latest version...
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...s=45&submit=Go!
Load Line Calibration = LLC, 3 hour small FFT is NOT sufficient to be absolutely sure the CPU is stable
There must be some ram setting or NB setting not 100%. Can you try one dimm at a time ( so remove one plz )
Here you : Hyperpi
Just select the 32Mb test and 2 cores... if the ram survives that you are wel on ya way
Have you tried another testprogram then OCCT ? Have you tried creating a memtest Cd and test everything outside windows, stress on test 7 and later on 5... dropped CPU multi to 8x ? That the app crashes okay but that it BSOD's is totally out of bounce...
I agree, i'm not sure what to make of it, the memory does pass memtest with no problems at all, it's the exact same limitaton as I had with the P35 P5K, 425FSB is fine, but 450FSB boots but unstable and in both cases the memory will seperately do 530+ without any issues. :brick:
I guess I could just settle for 3.6GHz, really don't want to though, 425FSB seems prety poor for the P5Q. :(