to ship that back it's going to be 5-6 pounds.Quote:
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to ship that back it's going to be 5-6 pounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x
sometimes switching bioses can upset the apple cart...even going back might not help either.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
think about raising MCH and ICHIO
Thank you ACE. It cost 8 euro for shipping. I think I had a bad motherboard from the start anyway before I even started to OC I got a buzzing sound from it when I started doing anything that would stress the CPU. That was at all stock settings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x
that doesn't sound right...i hope your replacement is a GOOD one!
I dont know if I will keep the replacement motherboard yet. But if I do I wont power it up without that 4 pin aux plugged in just incase I lose the Ethernet connections again. It might or might not help with Overclocking ut ill be happy with 3,5ghz on a quad core.
Steve, I hope your new motherboard works out better then the troubles you've had with this one. I've powered mine on by accident once without the 12V cpu plug in but all it did was spin the fans up and stall out.
I'm not using either of the onboard NICs either though, I'm using an Intel Pro/1000 pci-e card. I had enough of onboard NICs and their issues a year or two ago.
I got a new E8400 yesterday and this is much happier then the last one, will complete orthos testing with 1.29v VS the 1.44v needed by the old chip.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
CPU: Q6600 G0
Memory: 2x2GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ (DDR2 1000)
Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro v1.1
Power supply: Corsair HX520 520W (also tested with Antec Smartpower 500W)
Video card: XFX 8800GT 512MB
Sound card: Sound blaster X-FI XtremeMusic
Hard drive 1: SATA Western Digital 500GB 5000AAKS
Hard drive 2: SATA Seagate 320GB 7200.10
DVD-RW: SATA Pioneer 212D
CPU is stable at 3.6 @ 9x400 with Prime95 small FFT temperatures under 70C. For the FSB test, I'm trying multipliers of 7 and 6 to keep the overclock below 3.6 GHz. The memory has been tested stable at DDR2 1080, and I'm using a 1:1 ratio so the memory overclock doesn't come into play. I've tried BIOS versions 16 beta 3, beta 4, and now beta 9.
- How hot is too hot for the PWM temp?
- And how would one go about getting a NB temp reading?
I've been testing and overclocking my Server Rig (see sig) recently, and I'ce already Bolt Modded it, but I haven't added fans yet, and I am trying to get a grasp of what is too hot of a temp for the PWM?
I am currently at 3.3ghz 370x9, and I am getting a reading of PWM=54°c from CPUID HWMonitor, should I be concerned with that? Is it time to strap a fan on the PWM HS?
Also what app can I use to get a temp reading from the NB?
Sorry to hear ya gota RMA your board steve30x.
Is everyone else using the 4 pin aux plugg?
Two things that I noticed on my system with the beta 9 bios. (Aside from what's been pointed out.) My VID from core temp is now 1.1125v when before it was 1.0375v. It also seems to do a better job reading the SPD settings on auto. My tRAS setting before while on auto was 13 at 450mhz. Now it's 16 which seems to be more inline with the frequency scale. Haven't really seen a difference in overclockability, but the voltage readings is mucho better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaTaX
need to clarify something..the plug that steve is referring to is the one in between the PCIe slots...it is a 5 volt and 12 volt molex plug...it is not the 12V ATX CPU power plug that you might be referring to.
The vid on my Q6600 was 2.35 (or was it 1.35) as far as I can rember. I may be wrong but thats a bit too high to get a good OC.
Yes its the 4 pin Molex between the PCI express slots im refering to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
strange|ife,Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
What vCore are u using to get 400x9?
I've hit a roadblock, and I can't seem to get to 400x9 :(
I currently have a rev. 1.0 board on the PC that I'm currently using, and planning on another build with a new rev 1.1 board in another case. I would like to put a new E8400 processor into the system that I will start using, and pass the system with the E6750 CPU to my wife. ;)
Would there be any advantage (or not) to pairing the E8400 processor with the newer or the older MB? I'm probably going to open up my case as well to swap some memory, etc, so the effort in moving things between systems isn't a concern
Hi guys how do i post pictures as ive just put some thermalright HR-05-IFX chipset cooler`s on and have some pic`s i want to load up but don`t know how:shrug:
Cheers Paul..
new bios is working great on my end.
now im running 450 x 8 1.45v in bios and under load it goes to 1.42 much better than other bios. mch is on auto ddr2 2.1v 5-5-5-12 =] loving it so far
load them on www.imageshack.us and post link hereQuote:
Originally Posted by wilson
photobucket.comQuote:
Originally Posted by wilson
What Proc are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by redrumy3
Q6600 G0Quote:
Originally Posted by BassKozz
what was your vdroop like with the old bios and what was ur old bios?
old one i had to keep in bios volts @ 1.55 and it would drop to 1.42 now i keep it 1.45v and it drops to 1.42 its much better =]Quote:
Originally Posted by Volkswagen
Happy to report that New BIOS beta 09 seems to be working better then 04. Power saving features are now working on my wolfdale and my stock volts im up to 3500mhz where before i was at 3150. Im very happy so far!
that much vdroop could be psu related....
I only drop from 1.42 to 1.40 under full load.... at 466x9 on bios14
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Originally Posted by progressor
I did the mod and I idle 32C so you go right ahead......
you can load up to 5 images when you make a post by clicking on "manage attachments"...then, click on browse to add an image from your computer that is 200 KB or less in size.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
thats on a dual core we are talking quad here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by theELVISCERATOR
1.5V in Bios 1.48 Windows 1.42-5 Load
I will have to give this new bios a try:up:
I did the mod too, and my PWM gets as high as 55c 370x9, should I put a fan on the PWM HS or is 55c fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by theELVISCERATOR
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...blend35hrs.jpg
I did the vdroop mod on my IP35 Pro and it made a very large difference on my vdroop. Since I had it out of the case and all I did all measurements with a higher end DMM. My vdroop stayed within .003 of where it started up at. The bios reports these changes as being .01v, but I'll trust my DMM over the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volkswagen
It isn't too bad to do and you can get the parts you need from radio shack for about $5 if you already have a soldering pen. Be warned though, these are small points to solder..
adding a fan to the PWM area should lower the temps about 7-10C...if you are going to stay at that overclock then you shouldn't need to add a fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by BassKozz
Thanks for the feedback Ace-a-Rue,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Can you tell me how hot is too hot for the PWM?
I am now running @ the following settings:
400x9 | vcore 1.4350v | DDR2 1.9v | MCH 1.27v | ICH 1.29v | ICHIO 1.55v | DDR2 Ref 0% | GTL Ref 70%
and my PWM is up to 70c after 10mins of prime95 small fft's testing.
I probably won't stick with this OC, but I would like to know, What is the Max Temp for the PWM before it becomes dangerous?
I think the max the PWM can take is 110 celcius
Here are the thermalright coolers i was on about...
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...7/P1010675.jpghttp://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...7/P1010676.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...7/P1010677.jpg
Hmmmm there should be 3 pictures on that post?? why is it only showing 2...
there's 3...two pictures are side by side.
Doh!!! Thanks for the help aswell ace .
Those look like they do a great job but in all honesty I dont think you need those coolers there. You need to put something like that on your PWM area. Ill be upgrading my watercooling radiator and CPU block soon to help cool my Q6600 when I get a replacement board.
Thermalright dont do a cooler for the pro pwm yet but they are on my list for when they do. The reason i got the coolers is for the option to mount a 80mm fan on the NB. Both the coolers are the sli version .
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...7/P1010681.jpg
The only thing is should i mount the fan blowing air on to the g-card or have it sucking air through it???
Pull air thropugh it.
Thanks Steve,Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x
So 70c shouldn't be a concern or a need for a fan?
You could put a 40mm fan blowing air through the heatsink and out the back of the case to help a little but 70 celcius shouldnt bee too bad. That is once its not 70 celcius on Idle.
what are they at idle? I have done the bolt mod and have a 40mm fan on it and it seem`s to be between 35 - 42 depending on what the room temp is ie " if the girlfriend with the heating on full wack or not" and if you overclock it causes them to heat up aswell.
What does long constant beeeeeeps mean? I booted it up the first time and theres no post, no pictures but the mobo is screaming like crazy. Its stuck at C1. I wonder if its a dead cpu.
Thats a memory problem, try one stick.
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x
using my Q6600 at 400x9 vcore @ 1.435v my PWM is 34c at idle and 67~70c at loadQuote:
Originally Posted by wilson
if I run it 24/7 at this temp...
Should I be concerned? Is a fan necessary?
Nope still that dooo DOOOOO dooooo Dooooo dooooo Dooooo Dooooo DOOOOO Dooooo. Tried changing everything. I'm thinking its another bad mobo. I did hear crackling sounds while mounting the NB waterblock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
Eeee... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
One way to find out, take off your nb block and check out the damage :(
Have you no other ram to try with a low running volt like 1.9v and did you try slot 2b with 1 stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
"crackling sounds while mounting the NB waterblock" is not a good sign. C1 is "Detect Memory Error" but if NB is shot then all bets are off. Hope thats not it. Did you clear cmos?
Hey Ron what sort of scores do you get with the E8400 @ 4Ghz and 3dmark06?? And what are the temps for it as 1.35v seems dam good for that overclock.
Cheers Paul
Hi guys!
Which BIOS version is the best for ip35pro? I've got a pesky 0,5V drop on vcore with my q6600 on load. Could it be fixed by flashing a new BIOS? Or it can be solved only by modding the mobo? Are there any pencil mods for this board?
Lil'ManComputer
try new beta09.
tried my spare stick of 256mb and still teh same. tried my spare CPU, still the same. Tried a different PSU and vidcard still the same. Can't be harddrive. So I'm down back to the mobo. Either P5K Premium or try this again?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
Either way just be careful putting that block back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Did you remove the block yet to see what's up underneath?
I'm pretty sure its chipped like the corners on my Premium. I will no longer use chipset waterblocks unless it has an IHS on it. I hate taking my comp apart.
Has someone any experiences with this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Read over the last 5 pages or so of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil'ManComputer
14,600 to 14,700 in 06 but dual core is handicapped in 06. I could probably eek out 15 @ 4Ghz. Temps according to uguru are 30-33 idle 48-51 orthos load. Core temp, well, nevermind about core temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
Why nevermind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
Coretemp probably is reading pretty high. Coretemp isn't a reliable temp source for the E8400, however it's VERY accurate at telling you how far from throttling temp your CPU is. I don't think the E8400 has a tjunction of 105c..
Trying out this new beta bios and it acted a little weird. Made me reinstall some drivers dont know if thats jsut vista or the bios but oh well.
I have the vdroop mod and with this bios it is .01 to .02 vdroop with quad B3.
The temps are a little different also, not sure whats up with that. Anyways it still works. And its kind of nice to show what strap your on for the ram selelction makes it a little nice for ocing.
Either core temp is hosed or the sensors on the chip are defective. I think core temp is still accurate as far as the delta to tjunction max temp. But for idle temps and actual load temps its way off on my chip. 49c idle temp no matter what the ambient is. You can tell by feeling the base of the HS if your running hot and my chip is not running as hot as core temp indicates. In fact it feels really cool to the touch at idle and just slightly warm under load.
Edit: Like HaTaX said I think the actual tjunction is lower than 105c but even if thats fixed you still have the idle temps stuck at a fixed value at least on some chips.
Hmm, not happy. I'm using 16B09 and the system isn't stable at defaults.
IP35-Pro v1.10
E8400 Q747A0323
2GB Ballistix DDR2-1000 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-816 5-4-4-12 2T (auto setting)
nVidia 6600GT (my "don't care" gfx card)
Damn thing just locked up after 52 seconds of Orthos, got 3 minutes last time!
Edit: set the RAM 4-4-4-12 and 1.9v manually (it gets warm) and it still locked up... but starting or running CPU-Z v1.43 seems to be the killer. Now 20 minutes into Orthos and it's ok. I'll keep at it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
...yepp I tried 16B09 with great hope too, but I am dissapointed now:( . Vcore drop is 0,1V on load ( compared to the BIOS set value ), and even not constant, sometimes it fall down to 1,2V( when I set 1,5V! ) and sometimes to 1,66V:shocked: ( that made my hair stand on end, and I flashed 11 back ). I tried to mess around with the GTL refs, then the vcore stoped to jitter that much, but the drop remained the same. Dose someone ocing a Kentsfield in this board with success? How could be the vcore drop
depressed?
intel tech support told me to not worry about the core temps...the cpu will shutdown the cpu and the board if it encroaches into the max temp area for any part on the cores.
i didn't like the answer but for practicality, it will protect your cpu.
cpuz and uguru can not be opened on the desktop at the same time...apparently, they conflict with each other for the same resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
Ah, right. Unlike other instances where this happens (e.g. Intel XBX and the IDCC), you can actually have both open but eventually it'll lock up. Makes it look like oc instability at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Hi all,
its time (after lurking for 3 months) to post my setup.
I have a q6600, 2 gigs of 1066 ram (Xtreem Dark from teamgroup), 3 hdds, 1 sata DVDRW, an ETASIS 750W power supply. My heatsink is a Thermalright 120. My GFX card is a 8800gt.
My current (and probably final overclock) is 3420Mhz with a 380fsb.
Bios revision 1.6beta4.
My memory runs at 475mhz at 5-5-5-13-2T.
My voltages are as follows:
vcore= 1.3725
ddr2=2.375
mch=1.29
vtt=1.23
ich=1.09
ichio=1.55
cpu-gpu +69%
My temps are:
51-46-47-49 (under load)
PWM 57 Celcious (under load - no bolt mod)
My system does not like more volts, so I reckon this is as high as I can get.
Thank you all for your valuable advice and help.
Quick question - Does using FlashMenu flash the boot block too?
I used FlashMenu for 1.4 and it was fine, was able to boot with my E8400.
Thx
I need some help.
Tonight I was formating the rig in my signature. I installed Vista with no problem, but I had to restart because of the updates. I was hit with the sound of my fans on high speed and the C1 indicated on the motherboard.
I assumed it was memory related, so I cleared CMOS and tried single sticks in different slots. Nothing happened. At one point I was able to boot up and get into Vista. I noticed that the system was still at 3.6GHz and that the memory was still over clocked even though I set it all the default. However the voltages and speed step were set to default. (I used CPU-z and Windows control panel to view the speeds) Sometimes It would also loop restart, but only twice.
I recalled some people having the same problem, but I can't find the solution. :(
I also disconnected the hard drives to see what would happen. It did the same thing.
Any help would be great.
Which is the last revisión of this mobo? My P35-DS3R is death and I need to buy a new motherboard and i was thinking about this IP35-PRO for less than 140€...
Saludos ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
can you get into the bios?...if so, reset the bios to "Default" settings...then go into the Uguru section-voltages and take it out of auto to increase your vdimm to 2.1 and i would also juice up your vcore by a plus 0.05v.
BTW, which bios are you using?
Yesterday I put a better fan on my RAM. They are significantly cooler. I put 1 40mm fan on the PWM and 1 40mm fan on the MCH. This has dropped my PWM load temps from 95C to 70C. I'm very happy with that.
I'm using beta bios 09. I don't really like it. I still get as much a .1 vdroop on my CPU. It also made me reinstall my videocard drivers :(. It also has messed up temps significantly! I know this is normal, but it's annoying.
The worst part is I still can not get my Q6600 stable at 9x400 no matter what I do.
CPU-Z 1.44
http://www.majorgeeks.com/CPU-Z_d425.html
16B09 I'm getting about 0.03v droop at 1.3950 vcore in the BIOS.
I should add that I've only ever used this mobo for pre-testing CPUs on stock air, but I really quite like it. The quality of finish is second to none. I think I'll end up using it with my Q6600 under water for a file and game server.
when you say, can not get it to be stable, what bench are you using to quantify the "not"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keetha3
Ok guys im now water cooled on my cpu so im gonna oc some more.If i wanted whats the most i could get on my Q6600 ? Is 3.6Ghz about the norm with this mobo..
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...7/P1010682.jpg
what do you want?...Prime 95 or wPrime stability for your CPU?
Prime95 will give you about 3.7-3.8 but it might require some higher voltages...wPrime 1024M stability bench will require less voltage.
Well i don`t want to be pumping more than 1.45v through my cpu so i guess whatever i can get with that volt ? ?
I know you're not a fan of it, but I'm using Prime95 with 4 cores. If it's stable for at least an hour, I call it "stable" and then boot up a game and start playing normally for a few days until a crash. Anyways, I've tested my 3.6Ghz with Prime95 (bluescreen and complete crash after 1-10 mins), AoE3/CoD4 (bluescreen and complete crash after 15-60 mins) and normal use (completely random crashes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
With watercooling you can definitely safely put more than 1.45v in your CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keetha3
well...i understand your need to use that program.
i would set the memory to 1:1 put max MCH and max ICHIO for an hour to see if that brings you stability...i would also increase your Vdimm to around 2.25 to 2.3v for an hour so to see if those increased voltages help....if all of that does not, increase your vcore.
But isn't there a safe limit to this stuff? Max MCH and ICHIO sounds scary as heck. 2.3v DDR2 is ok for me now (I have this awesome fan cooling them now), but it's also my max. And most importantly... Why do so many other people hit 3.6Ghz with less voltage and less additional cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Nice to see talk to a good face again, Ace. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I seemed to have fixed my problem by removing the videocard and cleaning the inside of my system. There was not a lot of dust buildup, but it seemed to need cleaning.
One problem remains, I cleared the CMOS by removing the system power, battery, and changing the clear CMOS jumper. However the system still remembers my OC settings, but none of the other settings like Raid, boot order, and CPU options. Even though I have cleared the BIOS many times.
I am using the BETA 16 BIOS. BIOS date 9/28/2007.
I'm just worried why my OC settings have not gone back to default.
Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Advice/Ideas from a relative newb...
I've realized that OC/uGuru date and BIOS data are somehow completely seperate... Though my problem is usually the opposite of yours... I'll lose all OC data, but my BIOS is fine.
Also, there are 3 BETA 16 BIOS's. 03, 04, and 09. I think we all call them by that and not dates, though I could be wrong. Just trying to help ;).
I appreciate the help, that is what makes forums great. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Keetha3
I will update to the Beta 09 when I have time just because I know that I have a earlier BIOS version. Will see what happens with that. :up:
Oh. I HATED 09... and it seems most people do (AFAIK). As far as I can tell, for a Q6600, 03 is by far the best... I just "downgraded" to that tonight.
Wow, thanks. I'll then try to see what version I have, so that I can see whether or not I have to get 03.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keetha3
Thanks
Flashed to 16.B04 bios and with my e8400 uGuru shows what seams like they could be accurate temps but now temps reported by core temp is higher then before. About 50c/65c in core temp, 31c/48c in uGuru and everest with stock cooler.
I just put 09 on last night and it seems to work well with my Wolfdale. The board shipped with BIOS 14, and for the same clock (4.0GHz) I was able to lower the required loaded vcore by .02v. Temps are still out of line - uGuru reports 27C idle/46C load, while Core Temp reports 38C idle/58C load. At least they seem to report the same approximate delta between idle & load. FWIW, I trust Core Temp, because I believe those figures to be realistic given my setup.
it is just for an hour or so to see if insufficient voltage is holding you back from a prime95 overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keetha3
the other hold back could be a lack-luster cpu, like my replacement 9650...it is the roll of the dice to get a good or poor overclocking chip.
My IP35-Pro with the E8400 is running cool with the 16 beta 09 bios.
Both cores measuring at 34C, using Everest Ultimate version 4.20.1285.
No overclock yet. All voltage settings at default.
Hey guys! Maybe you can help me. :)
I got this board running with the system in my sig, and I got some sound issues.
I have a 4.1 system, I set the Windows Sound manager (in the control panel) to work with 4.1 sound, and when I try it, works fine, all speakers sound separately and as they shoud. But when trying to listen to some music using any kind of software, only both front speakers work.
Any help with that?
Thanks!!
this thread is massive...I hope someone can give me a couple of quick answers :)
is eGuru a good thing to use or is it better doing it through the bios always ?
could someone please tell me the best drivers/bios to have for this board with an e8400 + 4gb gskill 8000, in the BIOS and in eGuru the cpu temp is showing a constant reading of 246deg!!, although never beeps or shuts down despite the warnings being enabled
coretemp shows 35/37 idle...
also where to get the drivers, I have looked on the Abit site but there are not many new drivers/BIOS ?
my guess would be that the music was not recorded as surround sound, just 2 channels...it is like listening to a TV channel where one program gives surround sound so i hear all music or sound from 5 channels while other programs recorded or programmed in stereo, 2 channels, are strictly coming through the front speakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoL
Quote:
Originally Posted by bert555
you need to upgrade to beta bios 16.b09 to make that wolfdale to work correctly.
i would not worry about updating drivers unless you are having a problem like with video.
Yea, that is the main problem, but my last rig (nf4 ultra) was able to make all speakers sound. There is an option usually enabled that makes the sound to distribute thorugh all spakers, even though there only are 2 channels. I guess that is what is missworking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Maybe it can be worked out using the realtek drivers, but last time I installed them caused a lot of problems and I had to reinstall de OS.
Any guess? Maybe I'll have to wait for new drivers or something. :(
Hey guys i just got my new 8400 and Abit IP35 mobo.
Everything works fine. Only 1 thing doesn't seem very correct:
vcore in bios : 1.2250v
=> cpu)z 1.44: vcore : 1.112v
I putted around 2.2v on my memory, what should be stock. The only thing is i cannot see how many volts my memory get for real, i hope they don't get fried now:s
also occt and windows give a speed of 3492mhz and cpu-z gives the correct speed of 3.1ghz. It looks like occt and windows seems to take a Multiplier of 9X and i have putted it to 8X=> strange??
mine reports lower vcore in cpuz etc too, no option to set it lower than 1.225v in the BIOS ?
I have no floppy drive installed just now, must the beta bios only be updated doing it this way? (not with flashmenu)
I set everything to auto in the BIOS, it has given the memory 1.8v, is this too low ? it shows 1.8v in windows programs too..