No it dosn't work. It's not a matter of memset's version it's the bios
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depends on your cooling. For water or air, and a main rig. I wouldnt go over 1.49v for long term use. The safe max is hard to say, it all depends on your cooling. IF running phase, 1.65v-1.71v or higher for example would probably be safe for a decent amount of time. I think the wall on this chip is probably 4.5ghz even on ln2 if i had access to some, hard to say though.
Im now running 3.3Ghz 1.35v with ram at 920Mhz 4.5 divider and all seems to be well. My cpu idle temps are now 34,34,36,36 man them 2000 rpm 120mm fans do ther job!!!:up:
has anyone heard anything about the abit IX48 MAX Board yet!
Can someone help me here...
I am preparing for Ace-a-Rue's bolt/heatsink mod on my "Server Rig" (see sig), and I've been following this thread closely for some time now... but before I disconnect the HS, I'd like to know which is which. So based upon the following diagram, which one is the NB, SB, & MosFets PWM ?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ram-color2.jpgI've even circled each one with a different color (RED, BLUE, GREEN)
(Click to see larger)
Also can you remind me again, which one I need to use MX2 on and which to use AS5?
My assumption is:
PWM Mosfets / MX2
NorthBridge / AS5
SouthBridge / AS5
But just want to be sure
That's it BassKozz.
I would use mx2 on all of them and also put the paste on the pwm heatsink to be sure of good contact as ace said. I used 20mm M3 size bolts and felt washers as i could not get any rubber backed one`s .
I'm sorry but I had to chime in on the idea that 1.45V+ isn't safe, I find this to be categorically untrue. My vid on my old x2 4400 was 1.2875, I threw 1.55V at her and she still purrs like a kitten for the past 2+ years...Not to mention my other old 3800+ that I put 1.55V on and guess what? She STILL lives and that is 4+ years ago...while the 3800 may not be the best part of my example(default was 1.4+)I have for the past 8 years had every proc I have owned at 1.55V and their all STILL here and perfectly operable.
Back to the Q6600, again, it comes to down to cooling; if your on air the max VCORE to use is around 1.58V. If its water, 1.63V; if it's phase or LN2 1.7V...
What kills CPU's is:
1. Consistently high idle/ load temps(i.e. idling at 50C+)
2. 500FSB+ 24/7
3. Consistent power fluctuation(irregular voltage regulation, power delivery)
4. God
ive just tried all that together a few minutes ago. Cleared the CMOS , Took out the battery , Pressed the power button while power lead was plugged out , Unplugged the 24 pin power lead and took out 1 stick of ram. Left the machine off for 15 minutes. I still have no ethernet connection on the motherboard. But thanks for your help ACE
No go unfortunately. Thanks for trying to help though. Im going to RMA this motherboard tomorrow and rebuild my AMD machine for the time being.
Hey guys,
It's been a while since I've been here I've read the first 100 or so pages 2-3 times when i was here a while back. Anyways, I have g.skill memory pc6400 ddr2 800 which can be found here.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
I am under the impression that this memory is failing on me because i keep getting memory errors "the instruction at xxxxxxx referenced memory xxxxxx could not be read the memory could not be read" something like that and asks me to debug or terminate program it says that in an explorer.exe window that pops up.
I have a q6600 GO oc'ed to 3.8 on air my temps are in the low to mid 40's with the ac off :) my memory is at 4-4-4-12 2.2 volts i think maybe less and i used to be able to run at 1000 speed but now only ddr2800 or doesnt wanna boot. I have an abit ip35pro motherboard with original bios.
I am thinking that my temps are low enough i might make 4 gigahertz and I'm thinking my memory's holding me back or my bios. My question for you guys is
am i having memory problems or rather is that what these errors are telling me? Is it possible to be overclocked so high the memory cant keep up?
I have been thinking of buying new memory that overclocks well. I remember the people who bought crucial ballistics 1066 had great results and i am wondering if thats the way to go or if theres something better for my type of equipment below 300$ ? I am tired so forgive me if i make a mistake and thank you for any help :)
anytime you get memory errors, the first thing to do is set CAS 5...still getting errors then set the other settings to 5-5-18-(42 to 48)
Would it be worth changing this motherboard for an Abit IX38 instead?
Just asking cause I might just sell the IP35 pro replacement board and buy something better.
I just dont understand why my gpu wont powerup without that 4 pin molex plugged into the motherboard and I dont understand how it was so easy to lose the ethernet connections. I now cannot play my favourite game because I keep getting a BSOD every time. Also twice I got an IRQ no Less or Equal BSOd while booting into windows tonight. This motherboard is already gone south and I only have it a week.
are you sure your PSU is not at fault with the PCIe plug?...have you tried all the PCIe plugs?
your PSU being a 1200 watt supply does not preclude it from being part of the problem.
have you tried a regular PCI video card?...they are cheap in wal-mart and you can take it back within 30 days....just trying to eliminate the VC all together.
Steve, I'm pretty much a noob at this stuff so forgive me if I say something silly. When you say you aren't getting your lan to work, do you get that message that says your ethernet cable is unplugged? Or something to that effect? I had that because I had to disable one of the lan ports because I guess they were conflicting.
I know yours was working previously but just in case something got messed up in the software. Or whatever would make that happen.
Also, I finally got Memtest86 working. How freaking long does this thing take? I'm coming up on 2.5 hours! I want to get back to installing things.
My graphics card works perfectly in my other motherboard but it wont powerup on this motherboard unless I plug in that 4 pin onto the motherboard. Also theres two powersupplies in this case. Theres a 550 watt PSU for fans HDD's and DVD / CD roms. Then theres the 650 watt PSU for the motherboard and graphics card.
Also theres no walmart here in Ireland.
Perhaps your lan driver was corrupted somehow?
how do you start the PSU which is hooked up to the drives?
do me a favor...disconnect the drives and dvd drives from the board (just unplug the SATA cables)...now, don't power up the 550W supply...just power up the main supply that runs the mobo, cpu and VC...hook some of your fans up to this supply temporarily, for cooling...let us know how that works out.
EDIT:...i presumed you use this type of PSU array in your previous rig with the same VC?...correct?
So it's just repeating the same stuff over and over? I guess I'll just go to bed and turn it off in the morning.
Its a fresh windows install im working with here. Also I tried installing the latest driver but that didnt work.
Theres a problem there. The 650 watt PSU only has PCI Express power leads , a 4 pin and 8 pin 12v power lead and a 24 pin power lead. I have no way of connecting the fans to it.
Yes this setup is exactly the same. I just changed the motherboard and CPU last week.
ok...start the 550 with only the fans attached and drives but sata cables unplugged...and, start the 650 which runs the board...just make sure no drives or cd/dvd, floppy are connected to the board...i presume you are using the 8 pin 12v from the 650W to power the cpu?
Yup the 8 pin is connected to the motherboard. The powersupplies wont start seperatly. Their both connected together with a 2 pin connector so that they power up syncronisly.
ok...try the rest to see what happens.
Sorry ace but its 4am and im over tired right now. I cant even think straight. So ill try that tomorrow. If that doesnt work Ill just take the motherboard out and put back my AMD X2 6000 motherboard and CPU.
ok...have a good sleep.
What is the MAX. FSB people have his with 45nm's?...
Im not stable at anything about 540FSB.
540x7 was stable, but after that, even 550x6 wasnt possible.
So on the motherboard which I received (Rev 1.1), the springs which hold down the heatpipe pads are extremely strong, and the TIM pads are white, not black.
I am happy to report that I did not have to perform the heatpipe mod, and my PWM temperatures hover around 40 deg C. That's good, right?
Yes anything below 40 is good but it is if the pad has good contact on all the pwm`s. Look at the pictures from ace`s bolt mod and mine was the same only about half had good contact and my mobo is only 1 week old and had bios 14 on it. Its not only that but the pads are not as good as paste and sometimes the SB had only some small amounts of paste in one corner of it .
This mod is easy to do and is worth it .
have you tired it with just one psu
If i perform johny's vdroop mod I might have little vdroop in windows compared to set bios voltages but then load should be dead on as what I set it in bios right?
you miss-understood...i wanted you to use both PSU's...the 550W to run the fans and drives with the drives not attached to the mobo...then, have your 650W power the mobo, cpu and VC.
i guess it doesn't matter any longer since you pulled the board...good luck with the replacement or whatever board you get.
It wasnt worth it anyway ACE. I was trying to get the Ethernet working for 2 days with no success. I didnt want to be trying to fix the motherboard for days on end with no success. I thank you for trying to help though.
One thing I noticed is that even though the quad core was faster in some applications etc this Dual core seems to load things a whole lot faster than the quad core. Also I can OC my ram with this AMD motherboard but I couldnt OC my ram with the Abit IP35 and my internet speeds are a lot faster with this motherboard too. Could I have had a faulty motherboard from the beginning? This is just my view on things.
i understand...good luck with your replacement.
AMD processors have the memory controller on the cpu die...makes a big difference with overclocking the memory
Tried 16 BETA 03 and 04. No changes. 540 is max.
Should 1.41v be enough for 3.4Ghz ? Or do you think i could get away with lower as I see people with 1.45v for 3.6 Ghz.
wilson
The sufficient V is that minimal V at which processor passes all necessary tests.
Ace-a-Rue
BIOS 14 Best for Q6600?
Depends on your CPU, the best way to find out is to test, if it passes lower the voltage a little and repeat :up:
Vcore:
VTT:
MCH:
ICHIO:
Thanks for your inputs! :)
I just finished the Bolt Mod (a.k.a. "Ace-a-Rue" Mod), I removed the HS, and then removed the thermal pad from the PWM/Mosfet Heatsink. I then removed the center thermal pad on the NB, but I left the white cushioning pad on the NB Heatsink, I then applied TX-2 to all 3 heatsinks;
1 small drop in the center of the NB
1 medium size drop in the center of the SB
and I spreaded a thin layer (using a razor) on the PWM/Mosfet HS
Here are some pictures...
[All Pictures are Thumbnails, you can click to view the larger/original photo]
Here is what the board looks like when the Heatpipe is removed:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0353.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0354.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0355.jpg
Here is the bottom of the heatpipe (with and without the thermalpads):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0356.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0357.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0358.jpg
It's late... I mistakenly put the screws/nuts in backwards (The WRONG WAY):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0359.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0360.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0361.jpg
Ahh much better (The RIGHT way):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0362.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0363.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0367.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0368.jpg
Close ups...
PWM/Mosfets:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0364.jpg
Northbridge:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0365.jpg
Southbridge:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0366.jpg
Couple of questions for anyone who has preformed the mod:
- Did you leave the white cushioning pad on the NB HS?
- How tight should these screws/nuts be? How will I know when to stop tightening?
DO NOT FIRE THAT COMPUTER UP!!!
you need to have rubber washers on the backside of the the mb,to go along iwth the steel washers. you could be kissing goodbye your board.
use your judgement went tightening the bolts down.
you will know when they are tight enough.
What could be some reasons for me not being able to even POST at 500 MHz FSB? My processor is stable at 3.51 GHz @ 9x390 and 3.504 GHz @ 8x438, and my memory is DDR2 1000 tested stable at that speed. When I set my computer to 3.5 GHz @ 7x500 at RAM at 1:1, my computer can't even post; it gives a postcode of C1. I was hoping to be able to support high FSBs for a future Penryn overclock.
Looks like the limit for POSTing is about 468 MHz, and booting Vista is in the 450+ range.
CPU: Q6600 G0
RAM: G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ DDR2-1000
The board hasn't been fired up yet... Thank goodness I posted these pic's... but to be honest, I don't know if the backside is rubber or not, I think it is...
Here are some pic's that will hopefully clear this up...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0370.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0369.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0372.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...h_DSC_0371.jpg
(Click to view LARGEer)
So am I safe ?
Thanks for clearing that up Ace-a-Rue, I was getting nervous their for a second :D
Can you help me with my question about the NB, in the following picture you'll notice I removed the center thermal pad, but I left the outer cushion pad, is this correct?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...SC_0358-nb.jpg
(Click to see larger)
I also placed a small drop of TX-2 where the old center thermal pad was (not pictured).
w/o mods I can boot into vista @ 525-540~ there abouts without a hitch as long as I don't push the processor too much but 525 is the furthest I have gone for long term use w/ my E6850.. may want to tweak your settings - I can't remember what the mean OC FSB is for Q6600s though:shrug:
i removed it since i lapped that center with 400 or 600 paper...then, i realized what budwise said...so...my fix was to put electrical tape over the outer core of the NB to protect the electrical contacts protruding among the outer area of the NB chip...i presume the cushion is there to keep it from shorting out any of those contacts if the bridge was knocked or pushed making it off balance.
Anybody had these error`s on boot up and one after the other..
Error code 000000000000000a, parameter1 fffff800014141d1, parameter2 000000000000000c, parameter3 0000000000000000, parameter4 fffff8000104f236
Error code 00000000000000c2, parameter1 0000000000000007, parameter2 000000000000121a, parameter3 0000000000004773, parameter4 fffffadf9befd010.
Error code 00000000000000d1, parameter1 0000000000000000, parameter2 0000000000000002, parameter3 0000000000000001, parameter4 fffffadf8dd06343.
And should i update to bios 16 .4??
Thanks for clearing that up Budwise & Ace-a-Rue,
Now can someone post some pictures or explain how I am supposed to mount 40mm fans to the PWM & NB heatsinks?
here is one suggestion for the NB and PWM:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=760
just balance a 60mm or an 80mm over the pwm, if you have a tuniq or TRUE heatsink it's pretty easy to get it balanced right so it dont fall. I used one zip tie on the right edge to attach a 40mm evercool to the NB..it does alright.
Anyone watercooling the NB? Does teh MCW30 fit? What is the average concensus? I believe my mobo died and I was thinking of replacing it with this.
I don't think watercooling the NB is neccesary on this board unless you are going for max FSB. Do the heatpipe mod and you should be good to go. At 500 FSB my NB gets warm but not hot and thats just with 120 fan cooling from side panel.
P35 on air is more than enough... ;)
It's about time to contribute something to this thread... :D
Here are some shots my IP35 Pro cooling mods. Necessary? No - but it was fun. :yepp: I'm still in the midst of my build, so no results yet.
Some notes:
- Swiftech MCW30 on the MCH
- Enzotech SB1 on the ICH
- MOSFET heatsink was once a Socket 370 heatsink that I cut to fit in that location. Dimensions are 25mm X 60mm, minus the notch at the top to clear the cap in that location. Holes were drilled and tapped with a 4-40 thread.
- SB and MOSFET heatsinks are attached with 4-40 x 1/2" screws with flat and rubber washers underneath.
- Thermalright 775 backplate behind the FuZion...
(Click for larger version)
http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/23t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/24t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/36t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/37t.jpg
http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/38t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/39t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/40t.jpg http://moparextreme.com/img/project/08/thumbs/41t.jpg
TM
16.B09 beta is posted in beta bios section of abit usa. I have not tried it yet. http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=122393
Wow, I am going to go give it a shot... I am playing with Ubuntu 7.10 64 bit on this setup. Quite nice! I have to say, if Vista gets no better, I will be moving to this for my next desktop OS and keep XP around for games.
I'll let you all know my results.. Now I'll have to boot back into xp.... boo...
Anyone tried new beta? What's new?
Just got it installed... Biggest change......... .5 multipliers in the BIOS now! All you E8500 users should be happy now.
Also noticed a few voltage changes, the VCore I choose is the VCore I get now, nice..... There's an AUTO option for DDR2 and MCH now.
I've got screenshots of the changes if anyone wants them.
Also, I needed to do a clear cmos and reset all of my settings, going into the uguru page without doing that froze the bios.
Ohh, also there seems to be some new memory dividers in there as well... Didn't scope them out too much.
Here's some pictures of the changes I could see or thought I saw:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1...0788pu3.th.jpghttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3...0787yb6.th.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5...0786xt0.th.jpghttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5...0785tl4.th.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...0784rm4.th.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...0783ne2.th.jpg
Noticing my temps reported by bios seem to be much closer to realistic. My CPU fan doesn't do the surging thing anymore, it seemed sometimes the bios would report a CPU temp of 255c or 0c and that would cause the CPU fan to goto max.
Also CPU voltage seems to be much tighter.
I would recommend this to people with an E8x00 in their system.
did any timings added?
Yeah.. A 1:2.00A and 1:2.00B I don't remember seeing before. The FSB straps available are in the last picture I posted.
Bed time now, I'm going to let orthos plow on tonight...
not dividers, but memory timings (5-5-5-12-... etc.).
New Beta BIOS 16B09 seems to add 20c onto the actual CPU temp of my Q6600 G0. Similar to the 16B04 version. Seems ok when I drop back to the 16B03 version.
vdrop and vdroop on Wolfdale has reduced considerably on beta09 but max fsb wall is still there.
BIOS 16 BETA 09 is great.
vDroop and vDrop is much much much lesser.
BIOS Set 1.48 gets me 1.44 idle and 1.41 under load.
I cant seem to get over 540FSB stable though.
the weird temps are still here on the new beta...had this with b4 too... this is my q6600 g0 at 2.4 everything default...
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5060/tempsbb1.th.jpg
here are the bios shots...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9...0117xi5.th.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7...0116pp4.th.jpg
is it just me? looks like its back to b3 for me
back to usual OC 333x9 1:1 for ram... 1.4v selected 1.36 shown in bios 1.35 according to uguru @ 55C lol coretemp shows 38C
under load: uguru shows 69C and 1.34v
going to give it a try and i hope my replacement 9650 will go higher than 4200 mhz without shutting the board down during wPrime 1024M stability bench!
there is a problem with 16.b09 beta...it won't allow me to raise the multi above default for my 9650...the same happened with 16.b03 and my 9650...i'll try it with 9x but i don't have the best memory for high FSB in my machine....i would have to switch it out to my corsair ddr2-1142 instead....bah!:D
Should my motherboard be considered for RMA if it doesn't POST at any FSB higher than 465 MHz?
Is the CPU even affected by the FSB or just the final multiplier x FSB frequency? I read on uabit.com someone suggesting that at higher FSBs, you needed to "jump" to another FSB. I'm guessing this means that only certain incremental increases will work. Is everyone experiencing this?
Have I missed something ?
I can't find any link to the latest beta BIOS.
Can anybody gimme a link please ?
Sorry if it's already posted here, can't seem to locate it.
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=122393 :up:
I'm counting 2 BSOD with beta 09 + Vista(x32)..
I'm running at: CPU 9x400 1,43 (From BIOS) 1,39 Real@Load,Rams@1000 4-4-4-12 2.275V (Muskin 1066 D9),MCH 1,44V,CPU VTT 1,27,ICHIO 1.55V
,ICH 1,12V.
With BIOS 14 I was Prime Stable with this Settings..
Guys could one of you please tell me an approximate weight of the motherboard including the box it came in and all its contents. I need to know to calculate how much it will cost for postage back for RMA