It looks promising, but I would definitely let prime95 run longer. Try 8hrs and see if it is stable.
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Hey Duniek Lock Great
Wait For Finish Your Work And Some Test M8
I placed a second fan behind the radiator and the temps went down a degree or two, but nothing to write home about. I reversed the fans and learned Corsair was correct: With the Lian Li V2000 case, temps increased by 5-8 degrees! I guess ventilation in the V2000 isn't as great as I thought, even with Silenx fans.
I'm definitely going with a full water cooling system that utilizes a triple 120mm and a dual 80mm radiator.
Nice, Duniek! :clap: Sprinkle some nickle-plated "Bling-Bling" on my sample to match my other items :)
On another note, Crucial/Micron released the 256GB Crucial RealSSD C300 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s today: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...DDAC256MAG-1G1
I picked one up early this morning. I hope it's worth the wait.
Duniek,can ship to SGP?
I have a asus P6T7 WS supercomputer, use it 3 month before with a W3580 ES chip, the spec is :
W3580 ES, P6T7 WS Supercom board, Gskill Trident DDR3-2000 3 x 2g, I flshed the 0052 bios few weeks before and never realised any problem, only set mutiplier to 33 x 133,all others setting is auto,run @ 4.4g ddr3-1600 cl6. After I never touch this rig due to busy on course, yesterday I start play the bios, very strange problem is whatever cpu v-core I set in bios, the everest in WIN-XP and Cpu-Z is beyond 1.36V, my settings is :
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 25
BCLK Frequency: 133
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1600
UCLK Frequency: 3200Mhz
QPI Link Data Rate: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.25
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.30
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Differential Amplitude: AUTO
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
IOH Clock Skew: AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Advance Settings
C1E Support: Disabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher: Enabled
Intel (R) Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Intel (R) HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: ALL
A20M: Disabled
Intel (R) C-State Tech: Disabled
****************************
Express Gate: Disabled
the rest is auto,so is it my board or chip problem? anyone can help?
New bios
P6T7 WS SuperComputer 0607 BIOS
1.Add microcode for Gulftown CPU / Intel 980X
2.update 4 way SLI key
3.revised DRAM Voltage range for TurboV
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0607.zip
Other bios files here: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...T7_WS_SC/BIOS/
Well, I have to say the P6T7 & I7 920 D0 stepping combo is a magnificent overclocking machine.
It's fairly easy to hit 4.13 Ghz with the 0052 firmware.
Nice board, Asus!
It looks like the 0052v bios is going to be updated finally. ;):banana:
Guys, Asus is currently updating their special bioses for the mobos. So if you would like to have our bios updated, you need say it. Me alone - is not enough. Comon, chime in people. And those unregistered guys - it's time to check in and do something useful other than read in the hide.;):D ok? -)
Asus read this very thread so if they see there are enough of people, that are in need of the updated version of the 0052 bios - they will udate it then.
So, I guess, posting something like "+1 I need that bios badly" will drag the attention alright to the matter.
And if you add something like "... or I'll have to move to evga that supports gultowns." Will do only good. Just kidding :)
I don't get what's so special about the 502 bios. Still throttles for me!
I don't think this "feature" can be disabled in BIOS. My EVGA classified boards will NOT kick back the multiplier regardless of temp/load.
This is important as losing the 21X on the W3520 means really high BCLK is needed for 4.3GHz+.
It doesn't throttle for me. I tested mulriple times under LInx and Prime for like hours - there is no throttle. That's the only special thing about it.
+1 I need that bios badly
+1 for a p6t7 0052 evolution bios
Agreed, an update to 0052 is needed!
Heck yeah, ASUS!
+1 for a new throttling bios update.
Thanks in advance and great board!
Thanks for the feedback guys. I sent a message to Asus to see where they stand about updating their special bios versions that have been very popular with XS users.
I'll let you know when I hear back from them.
Thanks everyone...I have always supported Asus even when everyone else was going to EVGA...
I have a P6T7 with a 980X and cannot run anything above a 25 multi...Well I can run it but any stress and I leap back to a 26 or 25....
I spent 400.00 on this board and love it but this is unexceptable....I am truly an Asus fanboy...I went with this over EVGA..Please give us the correct Bios so we can compete and game with everyone else...This is why most of us spent 400.00 for this MB...
I could maybe understand but not really if this was a 95.00 MB......
Fix this now......PLEASE
I could'nt agree with you more thats why I'm now using my R2E with a 5970 and 2x 5870 to get Quadfire. I acctually hav two P6T7 her and I'm not using any of them at the moment, no good for benching and no good for hard CPU workload unless your running @stock.
I wonder if Asus really knows how many customers they have lost due to their policy/inablity too fix throtling issus on their X58 mb's. Add some inferior support for popular Xeon's, certain bios features not implemented in the cheaper models, and just too many almost equal mb's in their lineup.
Using multipliers higher than 25 on 980X results in multiplier throttling too! (P6T7)
It's a joke! Granted you can definitely reach CPU ceiling on less than 25X but some don't like ratcheting BCLK that high. Also for whatever dumb reason even multipliers are not as stable as odd. This was true on many CPU. Most of mine are Xeons.
Do you think it is more than just a bios problem....I can only assume this because it is not being taken care of...
Does anyone know if the rampage II has this problem??? Or any of the other Asus X58 1366 boards????
I guess it is time to seriously look at EVGA or other options!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't throw out 1K just to use my 25 multi.....
0607 seems to be working for me at high is loads... at least 2 out of 3 boards w/0607... :(
I just received a board for validation testing and will see what we can do on our end (ASUS Technical Marketing) with engineering to solve the throttling problems being reported here.
still awaiting the new bios arriving.
ugly
I know this is the wrong forum, but will the throttling issue be addressed for the P6T Deluxe V2 board as well? I too am experiencing throttling with the 980x at anything above the 25x multiplier. Like the rest of the posters here, it seems like an evga classified is the way to go nowadays. I've been an Asus user for many years now and hope this gets resolved. I appreciate any help or insight you can provide.
just pump this thread up, don't let it falled so deep,difficult to find it,mates.
It looks like asus isn't in the rush to release the special bios update, probably because if they do, it may hurt the sales of other motherboards badly, because really, this motherboard + no throttling and some other tweaks and optimizations puts the other even newer motherboards to ther rest. :D THis one is too good to update I guess, it is even... dangerous for business... :rofl:
Probably beats E762 or RIIIE, UD9 or Big Bang X-power...............even it was released so early..
Hi, Bingo13.
I was wondering if you may have an update for us on a new throttling bios for the P6T7?
Thanks in advance.
No news on an updated throttling bios for this board.
If Asus comes through and sends me something, a link will be posted here in a millisecond. :)
Are there any up to date programs out there for end users to edit their BIOS?
Someone here that have problems with P6T7 and 980X when they use cpu-z....?
Like when you boot in when you have loaded default config. and the vcore dont drop, multi and everything else is dropping as it should do, but the vcore dont change:rolleyes:
Why do i always get hanged up in stuff that is so "importent":ROTF:
( cpu-z 1.54 )
I need a little help here. :D
1. Are any users still having throttling issues with a Bloomfield or Nehalem and BIOS 0607. If so, please shoot me a PM with your configuration. We have tried a dozen processors and so far not a problem.
2. The 980X problem with high multi settings is replicated and we are validating a fix.
3. Are any Westmere users having throttling problems or getting above 180 BCLK? If so, please shoot me a PM with your configuration.
4. Are any users having problems with 4GB ECC modules (12GB or 24GB)? If so, please shoot me a PM with the manufacturer, model number, and description of the problem.
Thank you in advance.
PM sent. The 0607 throttles as any other bios except the 0052v.
How to flash the 0052v back after the 0607, - it says the motherboard is newer then the bios version?...
New Bioses
0701
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0701.zip
0804
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0804.zip
[ 0804 ]
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1. Revise string for BIOS menu (year 2009 change to 2010)
2. Revise Dram Bus voltage help string
[ 0701 ]
----------------------
1. update 4 way SLI key
Allright! Thank you very much. Which one is anti-throttle?
EDIT: I tried both and they both throttle.
Also, either of them permits to flash the 0052v over them.
Ditto - tried 804. No user option to turn off turbo throttle AND it still throttles on W3520 running at 21x206, for example. Frequency drops to 4200 when LinX is running. Useless like this when you have a chip that's good for 4400+.
Is it not possible to get a real non throttle BIOS for the P6T7? Even the 0052 throttled for me. :rolleyes:
I have 3 x P6T7 WS, with 980X,
and all three throttling with 0607,0701,0804.
Also, I know few more people with P6T7 WS all with the same problem.
I had more than 20 asus boards, and first time see stuff like this.
Also this boards is too expencive to have a problem like this for this long time.
The problem exists on the P6T7 and P6T6 WS Pro boards currently. Apparently the P6T6 Revolution has been fixed with a BIOS that allows the user to turn this feature off.
As the previous poster said I have the same issue. With 980X as soon as a multiplier above 25 is selected, loading will result in the multiplier falling back. This is extremely frustrating to say the least.
Users that say they don't have throttling are either not using the turbo multiplier, not loading the CPU high enough or using a program that is incorrectly reading the multiplier/CPU speed in real time, etc.
Try a ES version of AFUDOS with a bootable thumb drive. This is a little old, might look for a newer AFUDOS. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580, used this to flash my P5E to RF and back and forward. Scroll down to the Maximus / P5E to Ramapge Conversion
Thanks for the updates, everyone.
Still using 0052v and don't plan to update until a bios that specifically fixes the throttling issue is released.
Once this issue is resolved, I will be in heaven!
Outside of the throttling, the P6T7 absolutely rocks - Great MOBO Asus!
Hey everyone, I solved my throttling problem on my Asus P6T7 :) Don't know if it will fix everyone's but before it used to throttle a lot after 4.25 GHz on my i7 920. However, after I disabled the CPU TM Function under Advanced -> CPU Configuration -> CPU TM Function in the bios, I get a constant 21X multiplier lock upwards so far to 4.4 GHz. For reference, I have the 0804 Bios. It seems the TM function is the thermal management function which is tripped when overclocking high and causes the multiplier to drop. Hope this helps!
yeah, I'm currently using the 0804 bios too - I tried to disable the TM function but it still throttles. Actually I tried it before and it didn't work then - I just decided to try it again when I saw yuor post. These no-throtling bioses are very weird - I have been using the 0052 for several months and it didn't throttle then I reflashed it and it started throttling.....
I'm beginning to think this issue is never going to be fixed.
With 980s multipliers higher than 25 are also useless!
i think it is sad that they dont fix this, its a damn good board.
I got a Classified cheap, but if they come with a bios that fix it..the P6T7 is going back in my pc:)
I was referring to the frequency at where it starts to drop the multiplier. Mine used to at 4.3 GHz and up but its all good now.
So there's some boards that were throttling with the 0052 bios but most weren't and for current bios most are reporting throttling but mine is gone. We are obviously missing something here...
Ok well I was bored and wanted to see if I can stably raise my cpu some more (I've only tried 4.3 and 4.4, 4.4 being unstable) So I bumped it up to 207 x 21 with 1.5 Vcore to start ...windows loaded fine, ran prime95, 4 minutes later....throttling! :confused: Ahhh! Well that sucks, apparently it isn't gone. Put it back down to 205 x 21 with 1.4, all stable again, no throttling. Hm, so I did some experimenting. I kept it at 4.3 GHz but raised the Vcore to 1.5, loaded up, prime95...throttling. Well that's interesting. Tried different Vcores and here's what I got.
4.3 GHz:
1.500 V (Load temps ~90C) - Throttling
1.475 V (Load temps ~84C) - Throttling (But much less, drops multiplier to 20X for one second once or twice every minute)
1.450 V (Load temps ~81C) - No throttling
1.425 V (Load temps ~79C) - No throttling
These tests were only run for 15 min but I feel it is accurate in depicting the multiplier throttling problem.
So for me it's either the voltage or cpu temps that seem to correlate with the throttling. The only thing that confuses me is when I had originally thought it was gone I ran 210 x 21 and it didn't throttle at all but kept freezing up when I ran prime95. Maybe it would freeze before it was going to throttle? I gave up on it when 1.525V still wasn't enough.
I feel like the voltage is more likely the culprit for tripping it but the temps would make sense because the throttling at 1.5V became more prevalent as prime went on and temps rose higher. Maybe it could be both, maybe it's neither :shrug: I dropped back to my stable 4.3GHz @ 1.41V state and it looks like it's going to remain there. Dear Asus, I would really like a new bios. Thank you :)
EDIT: I actually started reading more pages in this thread and realized this has already been discussed but oh well never hurts to replicate results for confirmation
Here's what the November 2008 Intel Turbo White Paper says:
1.2 Dependencies / Algorithm
Intel® Turbo Boost technology core frequency upside availability is ultimately constrained by power delivery limits, but within those constraints, it is limited by the following factors:
• The estimated current consumption of the processor
• The estimated power consumption of the processor
• The temperature of the processor
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Bios 0052 works OK for many Quad Core owners to prevent throttling so give that a try.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1nq4wuny2ng
If you're not yet using i7 Turbo to keep a close eye on throttling then give that a try too.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip
Maybe I'll try to get a 6 core version of i7 Turbo done someday soon.
All, great information. Would like to see if BIOS 0052 will work with the Xeon W3550? I know that this CPU was added to one of the middle BIOS revisions, so not sure if it works with 0052.
This throttling is killing this board, I know it's still a good board but it could be great.
Will just have to keep waiting for ASUS to help us out on this.
Can we the person who gave us 0052v (sorry, forget the name) please provide any updated info on the throttling issue?
Thanks in advance.
Testing at Asus is in progress and JJ just sent me an update. He has not been able to confirm any throttling issues so I provided him with some more information.
I had a look through this thread and I hear users talk about the i7-980X throttling on this board but I don't see any screen shots to confirm this. If you have this problem can you post some screen shots that clearly show this issue. Asus wants to fix this issue and it would help them if they could see some evidence of it. Maybe their engineers aren't as capable as the XS guys at overclocking things to the moon. :rofl:
For a screen shot why not include two instances of CPU-Z. One with the CPU tab selected and one with the Mainboard tab opened up so it is very clear what CPU and bios version you are using when testing.
Also include i7 Turbo. It only shows 4 of the 6 cores at the moment but that usually gives you an idea if there is a problem. You can also include RealTemp GT since that correctly supports these Gulftown CPUs and the reported multiplier will confirm if there is some turbo throttling going on.
The more testing and the more data the better. I just went through the last 5 pages of this thread and I couldn't find anything that I could send to Asus. I'm willing to help and Asus is listening so post some data to make this problem 100% obvious.
I've got several screens of i7 920 and 980x where you see the drop.
Here's a couple
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3176/gulf4300.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1...ebench4200.jpg
You are using an early ES processor and both of your screen shots are at idle. I need to see an i7-980X running at full load so I can check for turbo throttling.
Here are the specs for a retail Core i7-980X.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLBUZ
It shows it has a default multiplier of 25 and can use either 1 or 2 bins of turbo boost depending on load. If one of these CPUs doesn't use any turbo boost at full load and reaches a maximum multiplier of only 25 or less then that is turbo throttling.
Edit: I have received screen shots with bios 0804. Here's an example of a late Core i7-980X (ES), same CPUID as retail, that is maintaining full turbo boost at 4160 MHz even when all 6 cores are thermal throttling.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8...rboexample.jpg
On this CPU, it might be right on the edge of turbo throttling but more testing is needed.
Hey my dog,hows those 5900's working for ya on this board.I'm thinking of
getting a couple of them:)Sold my GTX295's X2.
BTW, nice setup
JJ at Asus is getting some excellent results with no signs of turbo throttling while using bios 0804.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/958...turboboost.png
Full turbo boost is being maintained even with the CPU being red hot at a very nice 4.29 GHz.
The one I've got works great with the two 5870's in quadfire on th P6T7 :yepp:
@unclewebb
At the moment I'm not running anything on my P6T7 because it will not hold the multiplier, I've got a 980x retail now but if I set the multi to anything above 25 it will drop under load. On my R2E I can run 30x133 on stock vcore and I have no multi drop under load but on the P6T7 the multi drops to 25.
Hello All,
I will go ahead and create an OC Profile and see if it can be hosted online. For your reference in regards to settings there were specific settings that were out of the ordinary.
In regards to some quick settings for reference they are noted below.
1. Is the Multiplier must be set to AUTO
2. Speedstep ENABLED
TurboTech mode ENABLED
3.CPU Turbo Power Limit must be set to DISABLED
Additionally depending on your overclock i would advise you disable C1E and CSTATES and all virtualization options.
From there the rest of the settings were specific to my overclocks (voltages bclk etc).
Should you have any additional questions, concerns or inquiries please let me know. Please enjoy the rest of your day.
Hello All
I am following up on item brought up in this thread as well in regards to high multi.
Mydog -
At the moment I'm not running anything on my P6T7 because it will not hold the multiplier, I've got a 980x retail now but if I set the multi to anything above 25 it will drop under load. On my R2E I can run 30x133 on stock vcore and I have no multi drop under load but on the P6T7 the multi drops to 25.
I have been working with a number of overclockers on this board and had no reports of issues with Gulftown Support or running high multi. I did a quick set up and verification and have attached a screen for your reference. :up:
[IMG]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7...hmulti980x.png[/IMG]
As always if you have any additional questions, concerns or inqueries please let me know. Please enjoy the rest of your day.
Any chance you could implement the same fixes for Gulftown for the venerable P6T Deluxe? Some of us (maybe just me?) still enjoy using that now ancient relic of a board...:)
Hello Gautam
Captain Jinx
Check your PM. I believe in the past i had already worked with Unclewebb on this board. I have been trying to get the feature rolled in from a special non MP bios to a full MP bios with this feature.
PLease enjoy the rest of your day.
As a side note to all. All current WS boards have this feature present in the bios
P6T WS : 0901
P6T6 WS : 0602
P6T7 WS : 0504
To clarify to
Gautam
Captain Jinx and
mitmot
Registered User
Currently the only bios out for the Thermal Throttle when using Turbo for this board is the beta Non MP bios already provided to Unclewebb. I am currently working with HQ on taking the current public MP bios which support Gulftown and other bios updates and including the Thermal Throttle option. This is currently under consideration. Should a bios become availible i will inform Unclewebb of the update.
As always should you have any additional questions, concerns or inqueries please let me know. Please enjoy the rest of your day.
I'm really glad you asus guys are helping us out like this. I always was and always will be a fan :up:
Turning on speedstep, turning on turbo and turning off turbo power limit, then setting the multiplier manually, seems to have cured my problems. Thanks for the (decidedly non-obvious) hint! :)
Currently running at 133x30 with headroom to spare. With speedstep off and turbo off, throttling ensued at 133x28 or 135x27 for me.
Now to try tuning my 2000-specced ram to perform at >1866.
Excellent to see such support. Thanks illuminatiASUS, unclewebb!