Not sure who to ask but: here is a good question
using the memset I can set the tref to the highest setting of 16383t it gives me ~ 159mb more in sandrathan 2600. How can I set that in the bios?
wojtek
Not sure who to ask but: here is a good question
using the memset I can set the tref to the highest setting of 16383t it gives me ~ 159mb more in sandrathan 2600. How can I set that in the bios?
wojtek
You can't ....
Seems like a very important setting that used tobe available on the nf4 dfi boards and make a huge imapacts on the p35. Why dfi has not put it in the bios? It clearly can be accessed.:down:
DFI should do something in this case for the community.
Wojtek
No its back with Newegg and hopefully I will either get a replacement or they fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
New beta bios out. 5/02/08. Doesn't seem too exciting but does contain an important fix for anyone running into the following problem.
Major Reasons of Change:
The system can’t boot up in windows Vista 64bits when The motherboard with Intel Q9650 CPU and EIST function was disabled.
Anyone care to see if anything else has changed?
Great thread, this will come quite in handy when OCing my LT!
@cantankerous: thanks for the heads up! :) hmm seems like there's no need for me to update to the 5/02 since i'm not using a Q9650 nor a 64-bit Vista
My thoughts exactly though we have been surprised in the past with bios updates do much more than what is listed in the changelog.Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
The main reason I am not flashing is because then I will be downgrading my SATA RAID rom bios which Praz was kind enough to inject into the 3/17 bios. If the 5/02 bios has the latest 7.6.0.1011 I may flash just to be latest.
ok some things i noticed in the 05/02 Beta bios...
1) under Clock Setting Fine Delay...there's an option "Tfine Item Value Degree" with default at 120ps (options run from 10-160ps)
2) under Voltage Settings...new option after CPU VID Control, "CPU VID Special Add LIMIT" with option either Enabled or Disabled
3) some typo..."Rea5 elay phase adjust"
have no idea what these do since i didn't have the time to play with the settings.
Ah, thanks for testing emoners! I knew there would be other stuff added but not noted. That is typical DFI style.
Can Praz perhaps shed some light on this Tfine Item Value Degree and how it can benefit us? I am sure the other listing is self explanatory to avoid adding too much vcore through the % setting.
Emoners, would you mind sharing what SATA RAID ROM bios is present in this release? Is it 7.5.0.1017 or the newer 7.6.0.1011? If it is the older one I hope Praz would be kind enough to inject the newer one into this new beta for us all =). Sorry for dumping so much on you Praz, but you really do come in here with all the answers and are an invaluable source to us users of this board.
If i am right these new settings have something to do with the Tref.Much better to tweak them now as the old value we know was based still with these degree and a multiplier.Now it's just easier to tweak.
I've booted right up with the Gskill 2x2gb 1066 sticks without issue or need to manually adjust tRFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
Praz posted a nice template for them here:
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showpos...9&postcount=22
@emon
what does 2) do exactly? :D
Thanks for this info, very much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by drnick79
I need some help here, I just got a LP LT with the latest bios, and moved my Q6600 to it.
I disabled vdroop control, up vcore to 1.3000, up FSB to 400, set ram to 333:667 and left everything else untouched.
Small fft and OCCT cpu would run for hours without problem, however large fft and OCCT ram would error in 10 seconds. I am running 2x1g ballistix tracer 6400 (old double sided), so they are well within spec. What is going on here? Is there some ram parameter I am missing?
GTL makes or breaks you
what is your gtl setting? i didn't touch mineQuote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
Try upping the NBcore (first), and if that doesn't help, adjust the NBGTL/VTT voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by demiurge
I have found that adjusting the GTL settings for 9 x 400 fsb is not necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by demiurge
As always, YMMV. I had to adjust my GTLs to get it 100% stable. (I'll post it later, I don't remember and I'm not rebooting my PC tonight).Quote:
Originally Posted by saint-francis
Can someone tell what GTL setting corresponds to which core? meaning GTL 0/2 corresponds to core 0 and GTL 1/3 to core 2 (i have an E8400) ?
Thanx..
Yes, you don't really need it if your fsb is not over 450MHz at least. You use it if radical increase in vcore doesn't bring any improvement, then, i at least, use GTL settings to make it more stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by saint-francis
Just as it shows. For dual core GTL 0/2 controls core 0 and GTL 1/3 controls core 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaskija
Anyone know the cause of a high pitch squealing sound coming from a Brand New P35 LT and what I can do to fix this or is this beyond my Control, this could be the 2nd MB I send back for an RMA within 1 week.
It's probably the mosfets squealing. If you have a quad, it puts stress on them.
Yes I do have a Quad and this is the first P35 to do this. I have another P35 and an X48 and they do NOT Squeal even under Load.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
I guess I cannot do anything about it except RMA'g it back. Correct.
Incidentally I was just setting up the MB, 2 sticks RAM, Video Card and Power Supply, nothing extraordinary, and turned the Power on and got the 7F error Code which I looked up in Clunks error message list.
If it's fully in the case, it could also be the PSU.
No it was not in the case, I had it sitting on the tray. The Power Supply is a P&C 750W Silencer and it is pretty new. I had a DFI P965 Dark using the PSU and just swap it out about 2 weeks ago, when I ordered the P35 LT.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
I had the X48 hooked up to the same PSU for a few days and there was no problem when the first P35 LT was being RMA'd. The first had no RAM led light showing.
I get the noise too. There was a small thread on dfi club about this a while back so you and I aren't the only ones. From what I can gather it isn't as bad as on the p965 though.
yeah mine does it too a little bit. No where near as bad as my DFI P965-S Dark and Abit IP 35 Pro....
Thanks to those that replied, I do remember the problem well with the P965 Dark, and even though I had one, I never had the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by saint-francis
But I think I have found the problem and when I test it today hopefully it will restore my FAITH in DFI.
The problem is a defective Q6600, this was Brand New right out of the Box, it made the LT P35 Squeal, and it made my DFI X48 Squeal. So I take the defective Q6600 out of the X48 and put in a Q6600 that I know is good and Bingo all is well with the X48.
So now I will diassemble the X48 and try the P35 LT with the same good Q6600.
I will reedit this post later today with the results.
Problem was Memory not MotherBoard or Processor. The processor now works fine on what I thought was a problem MB with different Memory.
mine squeals too, as does my psu and video card, sigh.
I had a 965-s dark that did that and I returned it right away. It was louder than a Bubb Rubb Whistle Tip. "The DFI coil goes Whoo Whooooo!" They do it for decorations, that's it and that's all.
Hahaha, my laptop wireless card squeals, sometime it annoys me so much that I turn wireless off and walk around with cat-5 cables.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
Yes, this mobo does squeal for me.
Only under heavy load though.
When running HCI Memtest, it's actually quite loud & annoying.
Fortunately, no noise under idle or i'd go insane.
Well after much swapping out of different components, like another PSU, different Memory, different Q6600 processors, I can conclude that it is not the DFI LT P35 problem. I had 2 problems.
1. The initial high pitched Squeal was due to RAM problems .
2. But also the Q6600 is a problem, because I could get it to boot into Windows but I could not stay there for more than 5 minutes, just surfing the net would cause a system reboot and it was constant. The other thing that I tried to do with the processor was load a new copy of either Windows XP or Vista, it could not do that. I had to swap the problem processor out with another to do the re install of Windows. So now with a 'good Q6600' running I am currently Priming it just to make sure that it is not the Board. It has been going 30min so I think all is ok.
Anyway my faith in DFI is restored.
That's why when taking on the task of a system integrator having a good selection of components for substitution is a necessity.Quote:
Originally Posted by WizardofOz
Yes but do you get paid for it, mine is an expensive hobby (lol) and I am sure many folks are in the same boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Hello...
I wondered if you can help. I have this MBO, and it's awesome... Paired with E8500.
Now, I have a question. I have little problems getting it higher than 1.45V for the CPU. Can anyone suggest something? It doesn't depend on what frequency it is, but only doesn't want to give that voltage...
Please help...
Well the only way to get it working it's to set it trough additional voltage control not through VID :)
Has this happened to anyone... It shuts down 3 seconds after turning on...
okay well I've been stuck in a move for a bit and finally had a chance to put my computer together its a watercooled Q6600 and it stays stuck at post with 88. Nothing is on the screen but its hooked up to a 32" Sharp Aquos through a DVI input any chance that this could be causing it?
Take at look at the error codes hereQuote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/12434-post9.html
I really hope I dont have to RMA this board.
Frankly I am a little disappointed with my LT, was hoping it would clock my q6600 higher, but at 400x9, have to raise VTT to 1.4 to get OCCT stability. Started to fold and then found all work units were erroring before 10% mark. Finally sick of it and moved everything back to ip35-pro, VTT back down to 1.2 and everything is smooth as silk again. If only the ip35-pro has vdroop control, I am just too chicken to solder my board.
Is somebody finally paying you? After all those bills for computer parts I have seen, it would seem you are paying to play. Hehehe. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by WizardofOz
Just wondering if you have nothing on the screen, have you hooked up the 4 pin connector to the PCIE1 area and also extra power to the video card.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
And for good measure, there is another 4 pin connector to the PCIE area it is near PCIE3.
Iwish :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RGone
Yeah. Everyone thinks they are the only ones that have to pay for things. If they had any idea the money you and I spend they would realize their comments would be better placed elsewhere. Regardless, any successful hobby requires spending the money for the necessary items required. In the case of computer building if that is not an option or a reality maybe a pre-built would be a better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by RGone
Tried all of that still nada:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by WizardofOz
I am just trying throw out ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
1. Have you tried it with a regular Monitor
2. Is your Video Card capable of perform HDMI function ie HD 720p/1080, is your 32" screen HD? (Grasping at straws here)
3. Do you have another Video Card to try with the regular Monitor.
4. Is your Memory working?
5. PSU up to snuff.
6. All the plugs plugged tightly.
My computer just does not get tired. It will not enter the S3 sleep mode. I have enabled 'S3' in 'Power Management' of the bios under 'ACPI Suspend.' and in Vista. The monitor screen goes black as it should but I can hear the computer fans still operating. Then I cannot get the screen back, no matter what I do. I have to hit the power button for a couple of seconds and turn it off and then restart.
Any Ideas? Thanks
Need some advice on getting 600FSB with my E8400, what are the recommended settings to do it. Im on watercooling....temps are good.
And also Can someone please explain how i use the GTL settings and the DRAM settings (more aggressive settings underneath the 3 that can be set)
Along with how do the CLK settings work.
Much help would be appreciated. Was having a hard time trying to boot into window at 533 x 7.5 for 4ghz. I was getting a system32 error where it wants you to repair windows by inserting WinXP disk.
Thanks guys
System specs on in my sig.
CPU:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7...3942nz6.th.jpg
What kind of voltage are you throwing at the NB, and can your ram run at 1200?
For the GTL stuff, there is lots to read here: www.edgeofstability.com (it's not a simple explain sort of thing)
Anandtech did a great article on the DFI P35: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3129 (a lot of the information is for a quad, but it's still useful for just general board settings)
does this board support 45nm out of the box or would you need to use an older 775 chip to flash the bios first and then put the E8400 in? Was looking for this board for a friend but dont exactly have older 775 chips laying around.
i decided to go back to p35 wanted to try this board out since x38 suks @ high fsb
whats the best bios for high fsb 550+
and the best all around bios
tks
Yes, you need to flash a 45nm support bios with a 65nm cpu inside and then it will work.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
What do you value as a high fsb? 400+, 450+, 500+, 550+?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Try the beta perhaps for that.
Some of the recent ones are shipping from the Egg with a bios that supports 45nm. I set one up last week out of the box with an 8400.
What few "UT" P35's that were left at NewEgg likely needed no bios flash to run wolfdale out of the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
That however is unknown for the LP "LT" P35 T2R boards.
This was an LT.
no bad so far just need to learn the board
got to 576fsb any tips for higher would help
1.55vcpuvtt 1,65v nb
set on auto tuned the gtls a bit board fussy on gtl settings
verry nice board indead i wish i bought it on day 1
still workin @ max fsb got it to 585 locking up @ 588
performance is better than on x38
still tweakin gettin there
i shoulda bought 1 when you did turtletax
2.08v dimm
1.52v cpu
1.46v nb
Tru dat. I love this board more than my Ultra-D, and that is saying allot. I watch so many people spending huge cash on X38/X48 and not using DDR3 or Crossfire and I wish I could help them see how good this board really is. IMHO the best DDR2 board out there period.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Nice clocks to zsamz :) Keep it up :up:
yup x38 a pure waste i was thinkin p45 but i didnt wanna take no chancesQuote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
i just lovin the board mind you the x38 is a great board but this one just awsome more bandwith + faster than x38 after 500fsb i dont test sub 500 lol
i need more tweeking turtle its getting there
i wanna break 600fsb but i think my cpu is capped @ 588:mad:
to be honest this board is close to perfection:up:
If only it were painted in the style the LanParty Dark is i think it would be flawless.:up: Still, i love it a lot nevertheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
yup lol those colors are nicerQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_skills
did more playin around this time with 4 sticks x38 is king with 4 sticks lol
this 1 for you turtle i pushed a bit more
wow... wondering now if i should step back to the p35 now myself.. nice job there
that was only day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
i tweaked it more
2.03v on my beautifull ballistix
Any word if there's going to be a DFI LP UT P45-T2R ? If so, sold. If not I'm going to try a Foxconn.
According to this -
http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=671
There will be DFI LP UT P45-T3R. Well, that's pretty cool too actually as I want to grab one of those new Mushkin DDR3 kits amd get familiar with DDR3. Either DFI LP UT P45-T3R or the Avenger sounds good to me.
LP UT P45-T3R
Intel FSB1333 Core 2 Duo and Quad Core
Intel P45 + ICH9R
DDR3 support
Solid Capacitors
1 x16 or 2 x8 Gen2 +1 x4 Graphic Slots with Crossfire
1 x1 PCIE Slot and 3 PCI Slots
8 phase Digital PWM – Volterra
Heat Pipe set for CPU,PWM,NB and SB
JMB363 for 2 SATAII ports and 1 IDE port RAID
2 GbE LAN ports by Marvell 88E8052 + 8053 with teaming
ALC885 for 8 channels HD audio in Bernstein card
305*245mm 6 layers PCB in Black
Mmmm tasty.
actually i read dfi gonna have many flavors in p45Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
i will be buyin 1 for sure but i dont need to rush lol p45 gonna need to mature before it gets as good as this board
pretty big shoes to fill
True. I think this board and it's bios have set some new standards. I'm itching to see what the P45s can really do.
QFT! :up: I see more and more high-end board starting to have DFI level bioses.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
hmmm interesting...most boards with a P45 chipset will have the ICH10RQuote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
& just DDR3? no DDR2 coming?
Don't believe everything in print. There are no official specs for the DFI board published.Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
thanks Praz...coz honestly, i'm sticking with DFI.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure if that was legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
I'm itching to see the DFI P45 setups. This current board and it's options are probably the best I've had in over 20 years of home computing.
Anyone knows if there is a problem with the CMOS Reloaded function in BIOS?
I'm asking this because after reloading known stable settings my system was unstable, but if i set them back manually (after reseting BIOS) the stability is back..
PS: Btw i'm using BIOS 03/17
Good question. For me it's worked fine with 3/17 using 4 diff profiles and switching around a lot, also tweaking the profiles a lot. No problems here.
Now I want to double check that lol.
I will be o good ideea if someone could do a bios comparison for E8X00 series in terms of performance/stability..
BTW anyone tried to install Thermalright HR-05 SLI IFX on NB ?
yup +1Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
best ive seen
lol i dont remember if we had any options 20 years ago
There is nothing wrong with it, per-say. But unless you set ALL you clock setting fine delay values manually, they could well be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaskija
This is something that peeps don't seem to realise. Loading from "Cmos reloaded" with Auto fine delay values, will set different values than starting from scratch in the bios. This can then make "a stable clock", look unstable.
Sometimes I think you are exactly correct "kitfit1". Is why I usually cold boot from power supply off condition and then use CMOS Reloaded to let the board do its' best to pick the most often used fine delays if set to Auto.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kitfit1
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, only "sometimes" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RGone
I've observed something from my OC setup. If I turn off my system for over an hour or more (PC unplugged), then turn it on, I experience system instability for a couple of boot ups. Its like its asking for a "warm-up". Any idea how to get rid of that?
Current OC settings pass OCCT 2.0.0b with out issues.
Here are my basic settings...
450FSB x 9
333/800
5-5-5-15
vcore auto
vcore add 108.89%
vdimm 2.1v
vnb 1.37v
@Matt: noticed that too on the Wolves...didn't have this issue with my E6850. i've read somewhere that sometimes these wolves need to be "warmed-up".:shrug:
I want to ask, and maybe my question is not LPUT P35-T2R related, but I think it's good to share the experience with this mobo . Here in http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=186493, #42, is my question. Anyone have similar condition? I'm really curious about processor vid :D
@emon
Yup, I have a feeling its related to the wolves. But I'm not really sure.
I actually meant that sometimes the board needs to be cold booted, before it can apply CMOS Reloaded settings adequetely OR so it seems to me sometimes. I believe you have the straight of the problem, but sometimes the board is acting silly. Maybe that is written better. RGone...
Quote:
Originally Posted by kitfit1
I just got my DFI LT P35, sweet board, I want to Watercool the NB, Will removing the NB heatsink void the warranty of the whole board ? It has a seal attached that seems easily removable.
Hi guys!
I bought my first DFI mobo, a UT P35 on neweeg on april, and i having some issues.
The system is stable for desktop and web but in a game the system reboot randomly after 5 o 10 minutes. Is not temp problems, i have flashed de bios to de last one but is more of the same.
I try rising the nb voltage an vtt voltaje to 1.4 and 1.43 and i can run stable for now.
Is normal that i have to raise voltajes to run on stock?
Latter i will ask help for overclocking
TNX!!
@cucurcho
just like what people at the DFI forums would say, please indicate your complete systems specs. It would help a lot.
In a word, yes. And that sticker is flimsy. Mine actually fell of when I was putting the board together. No matter since I was going to take it off any way, but it's out of warranty now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANP !!!
The sticker seem to be very flimsy, I peeled it and stuck it again and it was like before.
sorry, I forget!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fireice2
Mi actual config is
mobo: DFI Lanparty LT P35 (Date CodeBios 2008/03/17 )
cpu: Intel Q6600 SALKR
memo: Corsair XMS2 DHX 2x2Gb PC6400 - 5-5-5-18-2t
psu: PowerCooler 550XP
vga: MSI Nvidia 8800GT 512Mb OC
disk: SAMSUNG 320Gb model hd321kj
DVDRW: Samsing writemaster
OS: Windows XP sp2
What are your memory settings, memory voltage and which divider are you using (333/667 or 333/800 or so)?
try raising your trfc 48-52 set ram to 2.0 or correct voltage n if dont work bump your nb a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by cucurucho
If you're experiencing instability at stock speed, then it's quite possible that you have a defective component.
Your memory is rated at 1.8v. Check that this is what's set in BIOS (this can be viewed in the PC Health section). Also make sure the timings are set as per specification (5-5-5-18-2T). CPU-Z, Everest or Memset can provide this information within Windows.
Check your memory stability with Memtest86+. Instructions on how to create a bootable CD are detailed on the site. If you get errors, then check each module separately.
Assuming your memory is stable, you can check overall system stability with Prime95, OCCT or Orthos.
You should not be required to increase voltages to get the system stable at stock speeds.
Hope this helps.
Hey guys, I haven't read much of this thread, so if there is info in here I should read, just let me know. Anyways, here's my problem. I just built a new rig with the DFI LT P35-T2R, Intel Q6600 GO (Tuniq tower, 40C Idle, ~50C Load, 334x8, 1.264V, 1.30V NB), 8GB G.Skill DDR2 1000 (1003), and 9800GTX. I'm getting random reboots at random times. Sometimes it works for awhile, but once it got into a repeating loop, 3 seconds on, 3 seconds off for about a minute. But normally, everything runs fine. So this is either a freak hardware thing which I'm praying it's not, or it's probably some wrong BIOS setting, so if someone can offer advice or tell me all the BIOS settings because I am a noob in OC'ing and could've forgotten something basic. Thanks guys.
Random reboots could be 100 & 1 things but as you are not far off stock CPU speed I doubt it would be the CPU causing your reboots. I would however just to eliminate it try a bit more vcore 1.3~1.35v & if that didn't help try a bit more vnb, 1.41~1.45 ish volts should do it you are running a lot of ram at a decent speed. Your ram will probably run a bit tighter at 1000mhz but for the purpose of ruling things out I would manually set your primary at 5.5.5.18.5.54 & see how you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by berndawg3
CN :)
Thanks C-N! I'm really hoping this is a OC/BIOS issue, because it'll be a b**** to find the hardware causing this, but I tried changing some things and temporarily have CPU voltage set to automatic and it's doing okay so far. But I'll continue tweaking it and see what happens.