Dumb question...can the VID be found on the box label somewhere? Been thinking of maybe hitting a retailer and cherrypicking if the VID theory is true.
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Dumb question...can the VID be found on the box label somewhere? Been thinking of maybe hitting a retailer and cherrypicking if the VID theory is true.
The vid on the box isn't the same value as the one that Core temp picks up. You'll have to hunt for a SLACR and go from there...
my core 0 is 35 core 1 is 33 core 2 is 31 and core 3 is 35 are these good temps on idle i have a b3 on water cooling also i cant find something to load test all 4 cores also im running at 3.375ghz volts on auto
i need to update my sig, i have a abit ip35 pro.
yes its not fair your right. but i paid for the thing, and should exercise my right to return if i choose. But i dunno, might not be worth paying 29.00 ! through UPS, just to be dissapointed again.
iam stable at 3.480ghz now. 2 hours...i might just accept the fact, that i have a sick OC on a quad core, and not worry about 200mhz
how much better is the ultra-120 vs the ninja?
anyone?
According to these guys its better by a small margin
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article727-page3.html
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article646-page1.html
some more results. These are on a tuniq tower, stock fan. My ultra 120 extreme(lapped edition) should be here monday lol. my lapping skills are horrible, so i spent the extra bucks and had it pre lapped.
so far stable..this is about as far as i can go, i have to use a lil more VTT with this proc, on my 6600 @3.65ghz i could leave VTT nearly stock on this board..quad needs more i guess.
Orthos is set to large FFT's,2 cores. Prime 2 cores Blend
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i973424_3.5ghz.jpg
What seems to be better ****A*** or the ****B*** batches?
FSB 470 * 8 @ 3760MHz 8hrs+ Small FFT Prime Stable.
Core temp are 67~70c so this is what I'll have as my max 24/7 OC for this season.
Ambient room temperature is 24.9 to 25.1C measured with a digital thermometre; system temp is where the hottest place in my room. Ambient room temp is always 1~2C below it.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3...1175smaag2.jpg
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/sororneja/prime95_temps.jpg
3600 @ 1.45v (1.475 set in bios)
how are these temps looking?
Before I can tell you whether it's "too" high of a temp or not, you might want to tell us what's the ambient temp in the room when you captured the screenshot and what kind of cooling are you using.Quote:
3600 @ 1.45v (1.475 set in bios)
how are these temps looking?
Just by looking at your load temps without taking other factors in, I think it's a little high. When I had my G0 Q6600 OC'ed to 3600MHz stage with only roughly 1.39v, my load temp was only around 60~62C.
I just noticed that your G0 Q6600 VID is lower than mine (1.2625v), suppose your lower VID means better OC-ability at lower volts but seems not?? If you need 1.475v set in BIOS and 1.45v Load to get 3600MHz stable for a 1.2375 VID G0 Q6600, I don't think it's doing too good or it could be the mobo. It looks like your VID should be rather 1.3000v in relative to the settings you've.
well im running water cooling at the moment, my first setup, its petras elite kit.
the ambient temp in the room is about 26C
i was hoping this was a good OCer, i was able to boot and play games just fine and run benchmarks no problemt @ 1.4v, but crashed after about 20min of prime
:( i havn't really touched any of the motherboard voltages, only the cpu, any tips??
wow you should really need to take a look and do some extensive reading through your mobo's forum discussion topics to learn more about what each settings does. Asking questions randomly here is really hard to answer as each motherboard has its special characteristics that one have to test it out to find out :)
You've to know your motherboard really really well to make your CPU overclock shine.
My P5K-Dlx took me almost a month to complete familiarize with every settings it has and what exactly the setting will effect the OC-ability at certain point. Sometimes a change of one thing can mean a great difference.
Don't be afraid to test it out yourself if you've some basic knowledge.
Seriously, the best way to OC is by "trial and error" there's no better way even if one person as an exact duplicate hardware setup as yours :)
GL
thanks a lot man for the quick responses, ill take a look and see if i can narrow down how to OC this thing a bit better, also if anyone can throw me some pointers, please do....this is my first intel chip so i guess im a newbie once again ( after having my opty 165 shine @ 2.8ghz with various tweaks of the bios)
You really need to play with some of the other voltages in order to achieve a better overclock.
Your CPU might be the best one around if the VID theory is true.
When you are in the bios, press F1 or CTL + F1 to see extra options.
Set your RAM Voltage and timings to those advertised by the manufacturer.
Up the FSB Voltage by +1 first and then by +2
Do the same for the NB Voltage.
Disable C1E, Speedstep, and anything spectrum / throttle related!
And prime95 crashing might not be a CPU voltage problem in your case, but the fact that you are not feeding the NB and FSB settings enough voltage.
Maybe after upping those 2, you'll be able to lower your CPU voltage?
Yes, small steps. For the FSB and NB voltages, you are looking to feed them about 1.4V each. I really don't know how the gigabyte will show you that, but you really need to @ least bring both up a notch or two!
Here is the main thread will ALL information regarding Gigabyte's p35 boards:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...t=gigabyte+dq6
now i know what b3 stands for bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: @ 3ghz i need a g0 bad i think i am done with the quad core series if i cant get q6600 g0 i may go with a e6850 something i know overclocks well and is a g0
I've got to spend some time reading this thread more fully,
but I'll ask anyway since I know this isn't the typical
OCing configuration so it may well not have been discussed
much.
Has anyone had any particularly good / bad experiences
in OCing a Q6600 G0 with a P35 chipset (e.g. P5K M/B)
using 4 sticks of double sided DDR2 DRAM (e.g. 8GBy)?
I'm just wondering how the extra memory sticks effect
the stability, timings, achievable overclocks, memory
bandwidth scores, etc. I'm sure it'll be a bit less OCable
than two sticks would be, but hopefully not that much
less in frequency and maybe it'd more than make up
for it in memory latency / bandwidth if the system
uses bank-interleave over the dual-dual-channels of
double-bank memory...
Using 4 sticks will surelly affect you mem overclock, but not your cpu overclock...
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/sororneja...95_temps_2.jpg
hows this :) ... i increased the voltage +0.15 on the FSB ... looking good so far on 1.4v
i hope +.15 is fine for 24/7 use, i posted it on the gigabyte thread to confirm or dismiss
it is becoming obvious that A batchs are performing better than any of the few B's ive seen, including mine. No matter i do i cant get her past 3.48..
ad nasium....
I just got my Q6600 GO and I idle at 45 stock & 56 on orthos with a Tuniq tower with a Silverstone fan. Is this normal? How high is "safe".
I'm getting a difference of about 10C cooler from speedfan then core temp. Everest is also reading about 5C cooler then core temp. Temps are reaching 68-70CC under full prime95 load after about 2hrs under core temp. This is concerning me with such high temps. This is on a Q6600 G0 on AUTO V core. I'm not sure which temp to believe since they are all different. Any ideas? Oh yeah CPU is cooled using tuniq tower and 3 120mm, 1 200mm and 1 80mm case cooling. Idle temps are fine core temp reads about 35C idle such a big difference from idle to load with this quad over my old E6300.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9...tledek4.th.jpg
First of all remove the AUTO setting for vcore and manually add a figure since AUTO usually adds more vcore than necessary.
What prime test are you performing, smallfft, blend etc? smallfft and largefft always stress the core more than blend test hence higher temps in coretemp.
Even though none of these programs can offer accurate temps trust coretemp.
Actually, you're getting 15C cooler with SpeedFan, not 'about 10C' :). The short answer is that CoreTemp numbers are closer to being correct. The longer answer is that all of them might be wrong - we don't know for sure. Without rehashing this again, click on this link and start reading down through that page... for another few pages. It's all explained in bits and pieces there.
I did notice also that at about 70C the system will restart after about 3hrs of prime with no errors, I'm guessing its hitting the thermal threshold for a Q6600?
Possibly, but not necessarily... on CoreTemp 0.95, you should enable this option:
http://skinprops.com/images/ct095.jpg
...that will show you the value of the DTS, which counts down to zero as temps get higher. Zero is the throttling point of the cpu, so you can see how much 'temperature headroom' you have left. But as you overclock higher, you'll need more and more headroom to remain stable. My guess is that you're just not stable. Again, all of this (and more) is explained (mostly by uncleweb) in that link I provided above.
Thanks for the info I did read through that thread. So as it seems core temp is giving me the closest temp and that unless I can get my temps down that I may not get 3.6 stable.
Would it be worth it to lap the HS?
Only if it's not already flat. You could check it with a razor blade or other straight edge. You could also take another look at your case airflow - make sure all cables are tucked up out of the way, check your fans/speeds, etc.
Also, as suggested above, don't use Auto for cpu voltage... set it yourself, starting with about the reported VID (see CoreTemp), then increasing it until you get stable. The lower the voltage, the less heat you'll produce. You might also have to adjust other voltages (NB, etc). And check your memory stability, etc.
Case flow seems good I usually try to do the best job I can cleaning up the cables and tucking them in places where there are no fans for maximum flow. The HS I noticed does have some swirl machining marks but to me seems pretty smooth to the touch. From what I have been reading making a HS shiny has little affect on temperature as long as its smooth. Temps on the mobo are around 30C and if I run prime and then stop the stress test I noticed CPU temps drop right down to 40 and continue down to 35 almost instantly, this at least is telling me that the HS seems to be extracting the heat off the CPU effectively, but i could be wrong? One thing i also noticed is that between large FFT and small FFT in prime 25.3 there is no difference in temps or they are within a degree of each other.
My coretemp values are about 10 degrees celcius hotter than uGuru and 15 degrees higher than speedfan.
So I shouldn't trust uGuru?
My CPU is currently 100% stable at 3.2ghz with 1.395v in BIOS.
So my CPU is actually running close to 70degrees instead?
At 3.375ghz, my CPU goes over 80degrees in uGuru.
If coretemp is correct, that's about 90 degrees. Wow.
Now I don't know what to believe..... =(
Also, my FanEQ doesn't control my Tuniq. It did before. But now it doesn't.
ANyone have such issues? I haven't changed the cabling or anything. =(
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5...ablech2.th.jpg
Yeah that seems about right. My speed fan is about 15C cooler then what core temp and the Asus utilities say. Your board may be reporting it different then mine, i doubt its at 90C I would believe 80C although. If it was at 90C you would have instability problems probably.
I run mine at 3.4G sealed in the case,it takes 1.537 v core and idles at around 50c and 30 min occt load at hottest is 87c in core temp 0.95
PWM peaks at 79c in uguru with two 120 cm yate loons glued in the case at the cpu/pwm end blowing across the board, do you Think it will run like this for 12 to 18 months at least
Q6600 is a g0 L723A930 with a VID of 1.1625 ordered from ncixus on 7-25
6 months would be enough
seeing as it doesn't throttle until 100c it may handle the heat pretty well,the test is in progress
documenting total run time,course few game will stress it to that extreme though
anything above 75C is high. Although this is under extreme load of prime which is different no programs that i know of will stress the CPU that much. The idle temps do seem high though, mine idles about 35C maybe you should try reseating the CPU. At those temps you would be lucky to get 6 months out of it or most likely it will slow degrade over time and you may get errors and instability, I would try and keep it below 70C on regular use and you should be fine.
I ordered one from NCIXUS and it is a G0. When it gets here, i'll show the results.
Well, lapped my Q6600 B3... running 450x8 1.55v not to shabby load temps are 57-58C priming now.
I got it under control lapping my Ultra-120Extreme, and now if it passes 24hr I will lap the chip.
Also have a G0 on order.
EDIT: Anyone else find Prime95 25.3 to be really touchy? Its very picky on what is stable and what isnt.
Orthos with Core Affinity set to SmallFFT runs forever..... wonder if I should trust Prime95...
i just installed a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with shin-etsu paste.
my ninja was a POS compared to this cooler.
my load temps with the ninja were hitting 69/71 @ 3.4ghz with the same volts as my loads now @ 3.42ghz being 10c less at 61/59. ambient temps have been more or less the same, high 70F in the room, and humid.
i also idle 5 degrees lower.
i benched this at 3.5 for 15 minutes which is nothing, and at 3.42 first for an hour - all stable of course - but i gotta goto bed its late eastern time and worky in the mornin.
i expect to be stable close to 3.6 or higher but ill run this 24/7 at 3.42 (im no xtreme oc'er) since my idle is nice and 61 load is dandy with me since real world usage will never get there - and provide an updated OC after hours of prime stable on my high oc.
with both coolers i ran an antec tri-cool on high with the rear exhaust on high (due to summer)
in fall/winter i run the fans on medium or low.
With my Q6600 B3 @ 3.6Ghz with 1.42v real was Prime95 25.3 stable using small ffts but would fail large ffts fauirly quickly. Bumped the vcore to 1.44v real and large ffts passed for 6 hours.
Also ran Orthos with affinity set to run all 4 cores and used Large ffts - Priority 9 as the ultimate stability test and it passes that fine so in my eyes it's stable as it ever will be.
Hell I cant even get 3.2ghz stable on my B3....BOOOOOOO:(
Seem to have hit an FSB wall at around 4.23Ghz and 470 FSB :(
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=223704
Oh well the chip is still pretty quick for a week 21 B3 ;)
The revision of the Motherboard you are thinking of is EVGA 680i A1 which I have!
Max FSB for me on the EVGA 680i A1 is an unstable 400 fsb with a QX6700 and bios 30... bios 28 wasnt any better...
Max for me on P5K Deluxe is high 400's...
FYI my B3 week 21 Q6600 is 4230 with an FSB of 470 ;)
I have a Q6600 G0 coming from Tank Guys so we will see whats what, personall I think its the board though.
Q6600 are showing impressive results.
and now:
what is PAKE DATE on the BOX OF Q6600 GO? 100%
what is PAKE DATE on the BOX OF Q6600 B3? 100%
I'll check when I get home but it was from Tiger Direct and was a week 21 with a B3 testing if that is your question.
FOR EXAMPLE :
7/12/2007 IS G0
7/10/2007 IS B3
Is it truth?
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...00PAKEDATE.jpg
Ok a little better still not happy though:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=224147
** second real attempt! Found a bad piece of memory :)
**In the bios, I cant even go a little higher to see what I can do, my temps are fine, considering this pic is 4x100% large ffts.... but the next vcore is 1.8 :(
I tried going higher in the fsb, but it wont last 2 minutes in windows, heh.
Oh well, 3.7 is alot better then 3.4
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1733/3708xb1.jpg
Shot at 2007-08-02
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7...attemptkm4.jpg
Shot at 2007-08-01
Hey Kakarot!!! Vive la RFD!!! :p:
Nice work with the G0. I just got mine (L724A) and re-looping my WC rig and ready to give 'er hell. Should have some results by tomorrow night.
I will have the G0 on a HE 120.3, DDC-2, MC-res, Fusion loop with the 8800GTX and 680i NB/SB on a EK block, dual MCW 30's, PA 120.2 , DDC-2, T-Line loop. Hope it can get some good results :)
Ugh, which 680i board? I'm so annoyed at mines.
So far 3.6Ghz 1.42 Vcore real on the EVGA 680i (P30). Getting fairly good temps with core 1 being the hottest with loads of 46-47c reported in Everest and lowest being core 3 at 40c loaded.
I am pretty optomistic this chips is great, hope the board can keep up.
More to come :D
Edit :Noticed temps rising very quickly and looks like I need more powerful fans on my HE 120.3. Was fine with YL's on it with my E6400 but doenst look like they have what it takes for a quad. Put a floor fan and pointed it at the Rad and temps are back to normal. I am now priming at 1.4Vcore and good for 20 minutes at 3.6.
Will let it go for a few more and crank it up more.
@ Turtle, the chip you have, Exact Stepping?
I got a L724A639..
Great chip, doing 3.6 @ 1.41vCore, Prime stable 11 hours.
3.7 @ 1.43-1.44, and mostly 3.8 @ 1.46, but my board vDroops a lot, so waiting for my IP-35 Pro, which Ill droop mod.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z1MSuperPI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...SuperPi32M.jpg
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2651812
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=224953
It is with crazy volts, but then again I havent really tried to lower them. I ran Prime 25.2 for about 20 minutes and temps were getting rather high so I quit. The were getting above 65 on water :eek:
This chip is crazy good!!!
turletrax is that evga board stock or did you do any mods and what bios are you using also what nb/sb cooling?
Board is bone stock, but is WC'ed on NB/SB. Looks like I have found max FSB with 9x at 444. Still have to do some testing but I cant get into windows above 4002Mhz, but can run all the benchies I need. Odd to say the least. Perhaps it is another FSB hole...
Nice turtle.
Now you need to get 4 Ghz stable on water. :D
I think it is stable but it gets too hot. I need some ultra-high CFM fans or wait for winter here in Canada ;)
I ran Prime 25.2 for 20 minutes or so and it was getting over 65c and climbing. I think I need to get rid of the HE for a PA. Anyhow, I have allot of tweaking left to do.
how do the mc30's mount on the evga board (ie are they solid mounts or somewhat loose), also what are you doing about the mosfets (ie using a mosfet block, or heatsink or leaving them bare?)
Also for the evga which exact model is it (they have a bunch, a1/t1, also nf63/67/68...)?
I have one MCW-30 hardmounted and one mounted from the rear of the board. You have to have the Video Card WC'ed to fit a block on the SB or it wont clear.
As far as my mosfets I have a 120mm pointed at them (about 9 inches away) and I replaced the garbage TIM with ASC on the sinks.
The model of 680i I have is a A1 with the 590 SB. Dunno if the SB really matters but we wont know untill everyone chimes in with results.
thanks. I do plan on watercooling my gpu (probably with a full cover block) but not until my next upgrade (probably g92). Would there be any issue with using the gpu in the bottom x16 slot until then? Or do you have another recommendation for a hsf for the southbridge that will work with a gpu in the top slot?
I think you are fine running it in the bottom slot. The board is dual x16 so you dont go x8 in the bottom slot. To be honest I dont know if you really gain any OC from WC'ing the SB.
Perhaps just a HS/Fan such as an Evercool would suffice and allow you to WC the NB. I just had the seconf MCW-30 laying around and temps arent a big factor for me as I am running dual loop. The only temps i get real picky about are my CPU temps. I mean my GTX will run out of voltage before temps hold back the OC.
Just my opinion. ;)
Edit: Sorry jkresh, I should mention that you might clear fine with your 7800GTX. I should have noticed that. Only 8800 series cards and most likely HD2900's wont fit. Perhaps someone will chime in and confirm that a 7800 GTX will allow clearance.
Hey, Turtletrax
I see you have new found joy with a G0 revision chip congrats my brother on the stellar chip:toast: :toast2:
;) Thanks buddy, cant wait to see what you can do with your TEC and a G0 :p:
Chip is priming for about an hour now @ 4Ghz. It is about 15c outside so I opened all the doors and windows :D Should get a clean run. I just wish the droop on this board wasnt as bad as my nutsak on a 38C day :rofl:
I mean C'mon that is terrible. I have to set 1.6875 to get 1.64 in windows and then 1.57-1.58 under load. Pretty weak. I know that the C2Q is a bit of a pig when OC'ed but honestly...
Batch L724A639, almost the same as Turtle's,,
Ambients 22-24C
http://forums.erodov.com/imagehostin...2faa81e9f1.jpg
Priming @ 3.6 Ghz @ 1.4 real (1.5250 set in BIOS :@, Damn this vDroop, cant wait for my IP35 Pro!!)
http://forums.erodov.com/imagehostin...2f5d481809.jpg
Priming 3.7Ghz @ 1.43v real
http://forums.erodov.com/imagehostin...38dd728c8f.jpg
Boot @ 4 Ghz @ 1.5 real (1.45 under load, but Prime fails, a bit more vCore may do the trick)
http://forums.erodov.com/imagehostin...2f5d577be2.jpg
More here
I can do anything I want with my batch at about 1.56-57Vcore. I run out of FSB on this 680i and the droop is scary. I hate that kind of juice running through my chip just to get it going normal voltage under load.
Your chip will fly with the P35 ;)
Commando 1404, Vboost and Vwhine modded :D, 1.475V BIOS L722A at 9 x 401 on air with SI-120.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...75V_Stable.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Prime2Hrs.jpg
I had 3.5 hours before I went to bed. Will shoot for 8 hours tonite.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...REMESYSTEM.jpg
Haven't primed it yet, but been stable running games and watching movies. 1.45V set in BIOS. Memory running at 500mhz 5:4 with the FSB. Tuniq Tower cooling. That's my 56" Samsung DLP that I just took back for the Samsung 46" LCD. Should be here tomorrow. Had at 3.2ghz the past week at 1.4V set in BIOS. Gonna see how much further I can go.
CPU: Q6600 2.4 Ghz
OC: 4.002 Ghz
Stepping: B G0
Week: L724
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2651812
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rification.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...z1MSuperPI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...SuperPi32M.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...sPrime4Ghz.jpg
@ Shim, Ill be doing the vDroop mod.
Already have a pot 1k ohm resistor and my solder irons ready =X.
My result :)
1.36V @ 3600MHz, othro 30mins.:
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/160...225419alj6.jpg
1.58V,@ 4GHz Large FFT 24mins dual ortho passed
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6...010145aak8.jpg
1.62V,@ 4GHz Small FFT 30mins dual orthos passed
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6...224620auc5.jpg
4320MHz passed Superpi 1M:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8...perpi1mha9.jpg
4367 CPUZ Validation:
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6...idationvi0.jpg
^^ Stepping?!?!
4Ghz @ 1.58, hmmph...
Mines a L724A639, and it does quite well, but not 3.6 @ 1.36 :O... Damn, you got lucky there!
I just picked up a L724A. Takes 1.6v bios 1.54 windows 1.50 loaded for semi stable 3600mhz on evga 680i w/ water. Load temps high 60's to low 70's. Mine isn't doing as i wanted. I have 2 more on the way though. Maybe my luck will change.
Nice Q6600 Tintin! :slobber:
wow, 4ghz prime :eek: