**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

Well being the IP35-Pro has the P35 chipset, and me having already baught 2 Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Drives, it is a fair bet that I would have that latest Raptor revision.

Do you think it might be pritty good odds that the Pro and the WD1500ADFD combo might not be a smart choice for me?

X38 replaces P35 correct?

Abits X38 boards might be better for me? I am currently eyeballing that Q9450 Penryn chip for $316.00 Q1 2008. I think i'm going to run my C2D processor until then in whatever mobo I end up selecting.

Thanks for the help. :clap:

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Originally Posted by Talonman

After a bit more beta testing is over, Abit should start shipping the boards with the latest bios improvements already installed.....

I wonder if that will be much longer? I'm guessing not.

I am hoping to get a board that is up to date with the latest bios, and ready to be installed when I open the box.

The Abit IP35-Pro is my current favorite.

All the flashing, and wondering how complicated it will be to get actually get a 2 drive RAID 0 Raptor array running off of the mobo has me consirned.

I am a plug and play fan myself. (First build) ;)

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For at least a week IP35 Pro version 1.1 boards have been shipping with BIOS 14.

Raptors are the only problematic hard drives with the IP35 series. Many people can run them without issue, but sometimes they are big trouble.

I noticed when overclocking my abit ip35 pro I'm not able to run Core Temp it crashes when i launch it then the pc would do a restart :eek:

http://s4.directupload.net/images/071008/ck8bqtux.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i had explained back about 3-4 pages that you cannot have your DOS file any longer than 8 alpha-numeric characters for your bios file name.

on top of that, my guide clearly stated to download an official Abit bios so you have the runme.bat and abitfae.bat available to flash automatically...i described that you had to rename the bios file name that is in the runme.bat to the current bios you wanted to flash.

the only thing that i did not get into was "how to" flash via an USB thumbdrive...a properly formatted USB drive acts just like floppy disk/drive when you use the HP format tool.

have you successfully flashed with this latest "16" beta bios?

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The guide wasnt "clear" in the how to.
It might be to the idea that most people aint used to do flashing from usb and working from bios changes.

I would have said something along these lines:
1. download a format tool (HP/link) to format usb key.(some description needed)
2. set it as "fat" up to 2gb usb keys or fat32 for more than 2gb usb key.
3. download a original bios from abit ex: m630a14.zip, unpack and put in a folder on the usb key.
4. download beta bios 16 put it into the same folder as the original folder on the usb key. (3).
5. rename beta bios (M629B_16AT.rar) after unpacking to a short phrase ex: 16.bin due to flashing wont work with 8 letters or more.
6. Now, open the runme.bat file in the map with the originalbios and beta bios, rename the file in runme.bat to the new bios (beta) "16.bin" since when you flash the bios the runme.bat will now flash the new betabios instead of the original one. (runme.bat is the pointer to the bios awdflash will flash)
7. Adjust the boot up sequence in bios so you can boot with the usb key.
8. reload default settings after flash.(more definition needed)

Did I put this in the right order?
I am used to work with computers but not used to program and work with usb and flashing bios from floppy and so on.
Took a bit of reading to get what was wanted and how to do it.

Now I just wait to get the new board since the flashing usb key is rdy to go.

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Originally Posted by Talonman

...X38 replaces P35 correct?...

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No, the P35 replaced the P965, and if memory serves correctly, the X38 will replace the 975.
Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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Originally Posted by mutang

I noticed when overclocking my abit ip35 pro I'm not able to run Core Temp it crashes when i launch it then the pc would do a restart :eek:

http://s4.directupload.net/images/071008/ck8bqtux.jpg

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I assume that you're using CoreTemp v0,95 which is affected by a bug that results in BSODs.

Download the latest version ( CoreTemp v0,95,4 ) from CoreTemp's website

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Originally Posted by AstroCreep

No, the P35 replaced the P965, and if memory serves correctly, the X38 will replace the 975.
Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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You are totally correct there - everything is shuffling forward
P35 is the new P965
X38 is the new 975x,
Nvidia 7xx boards to come next year
both p35 and x38 are ready for the new penryns coming next year, presumably also the case with nvidia.
I also heard an (unconfirmed) rumour that P35 supports PCI-e 2.0, tho no real confirmation here.

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

BIOS set to 2.20V, BIOS HW Monitoring shows 2.21V, real voltage ( idle ) is 2.08V :D

That's why you need more voltage than before ( other boards, Asus probably ? ;) )

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I assume that the under voltage is for any memory used, right? My 4gigs of DDR2 800 Ballistix need 2.215v (bios) to be stable with 500mhz - 5/5/5/17. I know 4gigs is harder to clock, but others seem to do a lot better with more than 2gigs.

I just don't want to pass the 2.2v (real) mark, but if there is a small cushion than I might just bump it up some more.

Hey, any of you guys notice any Flaws with running latest Intel Chipset Drivers?

Hey guys, i was hoping someone could tell me if the heatpipe assembly is suppose to swivel at the northbridge heatsink. I removed mine to do the mod and the heatpipe is able to swivel at the northbridge. Is the heatpipe broke our is that suppose to do that?

it is broke...probably the solder at the joint failed.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

it is broke...probably the solder at the joint failed.

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Oh nooooes!!


Well thanks for the quick reply, i bought it used so if i cant get refunded what would you recommend for the cooling?


Should i remove all heatpipes and actively cool the mosfet and northbridge heatsinks our maybe after market alternatives?

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Originally Posted by SaiNRuB

Oh nooooes!!


Well thanks for the quick reply, i bought it used so if i cant get refunded what would you recommend for the cooling?


Should i remove all heatpipes and actively cool the mosfet and northbridge heatsinks our maybe after market alternatives?

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I don't think there are any aftermarket sinks that fit on the mosfets on this guy. :(
Could always remove the whole heatpipe assembly and do Ace's heatpipe mod! :up:

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Originally Posted by AstroCreep

I don't think there are any aftermarket sinks that fit on the mosfets on this guy. :(
Could always remove the whole heatpipe assembly and do Ace's heatpipe mod! :up:

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Thanks for the advice, thats probably what I will end up doing.

I was wondering though what happened to the liquid in the heatpipe. Could it of leaked on anything vital and cause some problems perhaps? I have not yet tested the board yet. I didnt want to install everything without knowing if the heatpipe was broken yet. I did go ahead and perform the heatpipe mod so as of now it does have the bolts installed into the assembly.

Does anybody know why when i set those 2 subtimings in bios i get different values in memset? For example i manually set both of them to 10 and they seem to be 18 in memset.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...rgesod/1-1.jpg

Also what is the meaning of this message?

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/georgesod/2.jpg

So P35 is on the X38 boards too.

So what board do the Raptor boys most select to stay away from P35 and possible communication issues.

I have three of these boards all running Raptor drives, one single and two in raid... Haven't seen the problem that everyone is talking 'bout...

How old are your Raptors?

Thanks for the reply, and promise not to monpolize the Abit IP-35 Pro thread much longer. ;)

I just love this motherboard, and im in shock about the P35 and late revision Raptor info.

Is there a thread going on this...

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Originally Posted by Brother Esau

Hey, any of you guys notice any Flaws with running latest Intel Chipset Drivers?

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I've noticed that when I access my DVD writer, the system seems to hang. I can click on stuff and nothing happens. When the DVD drive finally realizes what's in the drive, all the things I've opened or closed pop up. Like a delay effect. It drives me nuts.

Do I seriously gotta go through 117 pages of info on this just for info :confused: Well my board comes in tommorrow so glad to be aboard :up:

When trying to reach the 3.0GHz mark with my E4300, Should I try with the 9x multi or the 8x Multi?

Thanks in advance

-Terry


Nvm the above; I went to my usual reading of threads (stickies) and found a great basic overclocking thread that gave good basic info. I'll run 9x multi to reach my goal of 3.0GHz

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Originally Posted by flopper

The guide wasnt "clear" in the how to.
It might be to the idea that most people aint used to do flashing from usb and working from bios changes.

I would have said something along these lines:
1. download a format tool (HP/link) to format usb key.(some description needed)
2. set it as "fat" up to 2gb usb keys or fat32 for more than 2gb usb key.
3. download a original bios from abit ex: m630a14.zip, unpack and put in a folder on the usb key.
4. download beta bios 16 put it into the same folder as the original folder on the usb key. (3).
5. rename beta bios (M629B_16AT.rar) after unpacking to a short phrase ex: 16.bin due to flashing wont work with 8 letters or more.
6. Now, open the runme.bat file in the map with the originalbios and beta bios, rename the file in runme.bat to the new bios (beta) "16.bin" since when you flash the bios the runme.bat will now flash the new betabios instead of the original one. (runme.bat is the pointer to the bios awdflash will flash)
7. Adjust the boot up sequence in bios so you can boot with the usb key.
8. reload default settings after flash.(more definition needed)

Did I put this in the right order?
I am used to work with computers but not used to program and work with usb and flashing bios from floppy and so on.
Took a bit of reading to get what was wanted and how to do it.

Now I just wait to get the new board since the flashing usb key is rdy to go.

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i don't know what you are trying to do here but i am a little miffed :mad: at your failure to re-read the guide and see that the whole guide stresses flashing with floppy disks...i mention USB in passing as the other alternative but i did not want to get into the "how to"...

come on man, you sound educated but your above quote sounds like a man uninformed or you can not read/comprehend worth a damn!:(

if you consider yourself the expert, why the heck don't you publish your own USB guide to flashing with a damn link in your signature!:shakes:

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Originally Posted by Master of None

For at least a week IP35 Pro version 1.1 boards have been shipping with BIOS 14.

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NOW!...that is amazing...i've seen many boards sit there with the orginal issued bios...i am PROUD of ABIT for doing a bang up job!...NICE GOING ABIT!

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Originally Posted by mutang

I noticed when overclocking my abit ip35 pro I'm not able to run Core Temp it crashes when i launch it then the pc would do a restart :eek:

http://s4.directupload.net/images/071008/ck8bqtux.jpg

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which version of coretemp?...bios version installed?

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner
BIOS set to 2.20V, BIOS HW Monitoring shows 2.21V, real voltage ( idle ) is 2.08V

That's why you need more voltage than before ( other boards, Asus probably ? )

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Originally Posted by Knight

I assume that the under voltage is for any memory used, right? My 4gigs of DDR2 800 Ballistix need 2.215v (bios) to be stable with 500mhz - 5/5/5/17. I know 4gigs is harder to clock, but others seem to do a lot better with more than 2gigs.

I just don't want to pass the 2.2v (real) mark, but if there is a small cushion than I might just bump it up some more.

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i know at least two people reported the vdimm overvolting so i am not sure why BenchZowner has the opposite...he could have a defective board when it comes to vdimm regulation.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i know at least two people reported the vdimm overvolting so i am not sure why BenchZowner has the opposite...he could have a defective board when it comes to vdimm regulation.

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Mine undervolts the dimms too. Not by much and this was with bios 14. Now I'm running the beta 16.
http://forum.uabit.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=387

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Originally Posted by SaiNRuB

Oh nooooes!!


Well thanks for the quick reply, i bought it used so if i cant get refunded what would you recommend for the cooling?


Should i remove all heatpipes and actively cool the mosfet and northbridge heatsinks our maybe after market alternatives?

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you can try to re-solder the copper tubing with a plumber portable torch; use the torch to detach the pipes and then, remount the sink heatsinks....or...just cut the pipes close to the heatsink and pinch the tube(s).

I have a strange issue. My IP35-E does not seem to be recognizing my sata cd drive. Its a samsung sh-203b.

The board posts, but does not show the drive. I assume it should appear here, but it does not. and i get disk boot failure if I just have the sata drive plugged in and sata cdrom set to boot first. The drive is not the problem, as it worked a few hours ago before i took everything apart for the rebuild

any ideas?

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Originally Posted by maxwedge

Mine undervolts the dimms too. Not by much and this was with bios 14. Now I'm running the beta 16.
http://forum.uabit.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=387

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did you use the "+2%" DDR2 VTT to see if that impacted the reading?

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

did you use the "+2%" DDR2 VTT to see if that impacted the reading?

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You know I was thinking of doing that but didn't get around to it at the time, but I'll have some free time Wednesday and my meter is still sitting here so I'll see if it changes anything. I doubt it will because I see no change in software voltage readings when the ddr2 vvt is changed.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

you can try to re-solder the copper tubing with a plumber portable torch; use the torch to detach the pipes and then, remount the sink heatsinks....or...just cut the pipes close to the heatsink and pinch the tube(s).

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Thanks again for a reply Ace-a-Rue.


Sounds like a nice project to take on. If im not able to do this id like to maybe get some watercooling gear to cool the northbridge and run the others passive with some antec spot cool fans directing some airflow.

Im not bummed entirely, i know from you guys opinions and results that this board will serve me just fine.

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Originally Posted by kapster

I have a strange issue. My IP35-E does not seem to be recognizing my sata cd drive. Its a samsung sh-203b.

The board posts, but does not show the drive. I assume it should appear here, but it does not. and i get disk boot failure if I just have the sata drive plugged in and sata cdrom set to boot first. The drive is not the problem, as it worked a few hours ago before i took everything apart for the rebuild

any ideas?

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suggest you try switching it around on the SATA ports to see if you can get it to register...i presume it powers up and tray opens and closes?

the other thing you can try is switching out the cable.

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Originally Posted by maxwedge

You know I was thinking of doing that but didn't get around to it at the time, but I'll have some free time Wednesday and my meter is still sitting here so I'll see if it changes anything. I doubt it will because I see no change in software voltage readings when the ddr2 vvt is changed.

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it could be the bios making the changes to lower the vdimm since some burned up their dimms using an older version Uguru...it was Uguru at fault because it was registering vdimm well below the actual voltage.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

suggest you try switching it around on the SATA ports to see if you can get it to register...i presume it powers up and tray opens and closes?

the other thing you can try is switching out the cable.

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Thank so much. Swapped the cable and it works.

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Originally Posted by kapster

Thank so much. Swapped the cable and it works.

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GREAT!:up:

was the cable head cracked?

nope, cable was fine. I dumped it though so I wouldn't try using it again.

Now i got another problem. I cant get my xp cd to install on my raptor (74gb). First problem, but has been fixed: The drive would just hang for about 30 seconds connected to port 1. changed to another port and that was fixed, boots up normal speed.

Now when I go to install windows it keeps saying the partition I made is invalid for windows install. and i make a new one and same message. So im stuck. I was hoping to install before bed but i guess not.

i have read about the raptor problems but have not read how to fix them.

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Originally Posted by kapster

nope, cable was fine. I dumped it though so I wouldn't try using it again.

Now i got another problem. I cant get my xp cd to install on my raptor (74gb). First problem, but has been fixed: The drive would just hang for about 30 seconds connected to port 1. changed to another port and that was fixed, boots up normal speed.

Now when I go to install windows it keeps saying the partition I made is invalid for windows install. and i make a new one and same message. So im stuck. I was hoping to install before bed but i guess not.

i have read about the raptor problems but have not read how to fix them.

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You'll need NTFS. Ideally, NTFS primary active partition at least 8GB.

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Originally Posted by kapster

nope, cable was fine. I dumped it though so I wouldn't try using it again.

Now i got another problem. I cant get my xp cd to install on my raptor (74gb). First problem, but has been fixed: The drive would just hang for about 30 seconds connected to port 1. changed to another port and that was fixed, boots up normal speed.

Now when I go to install windows it keeps saying the partition I made is invalid for windows install. and i make a new one and same message. So im stuck. I was hoping to install before bed but i guess not.

i have read about the raptor problems but have not read how to fix them.

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The cable might have been fine. I don't think your exact optical drive will show up at the bottom of the first boot device list until the third time you enter BIOS after clearing CMOS. It may depend on how you make the changes in BIOS after clearing CMOS.


One reported "Raptor Cure" is writing zero's to the drive before the OS install.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

it could be the bios making the changes to lower the vdimm since some burned up their dimms using an older version Uguru...it was Uguru at fault because it was registering vdimm well below the actual voltage.

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on IP35?
I don't remember seeing that anywhere (on the original uGuru version that shipped with the QuadGT & on that board, yes) .

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Originally Posted by georgesod

Also what is the meaning of this message?

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/georgesod/2.jpg

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http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...highlight=wbem

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Originally Posted by georgesod

Does anybody know why when i set those 2 subtimings in bios i get different values in memset? For example i manually set both of them to 10 and they seem to be 18 in memset.

[IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/georgesod/1-1.jpg[/IMG

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I remember seeing a similar thing with a couple of boards I have had. As long as you know there is a difference of 8 between what you set & what you get you should be able to work around it.

Tony/Bigtoe (TTR) posted something about this issue a while back being something to do with the BIOS rather than Memset on an ASUS board I think, perhaps if he is still watching he could enlighten us once again.

CN.

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Originally Posted by Master of None

One reported "Raptor Cure" is writing zero's to the drive before the OS install.

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Is this done by formatting the drive, then running some utility program?

I use wipedrive. It boots off cd and then you can write zeros...typically takes me 20-30 minutes on a 74GB raptor.

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

I use wipedrive. It boots off cd and then you can write zeros...typically takes me 20-30 minutes on a 74GB raptor.

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Do you know how many passes it makes?

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Originally Posted by Heidfirst

on IP35?
I don't remember seeing that anywhere (on the original uGuru version that shipped with the QuadGT & on that board, yes) .

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i should have been more specific...it was Uguru version 3.103 that caused at least one person to burn up some corsair dimms on the Pro board...he thought that he was setting 2.4 or 2.5 Vdimm within Uguru but the actual vdimm was 0.15v higher than "OC Uguru" said it was set to.

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Originally Posted by Talonman

Is this done by formatting the drive, then running some utility program?

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I use the WD software, it boots from floppy or CD. Write zeros then install the OS as usual.

Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for DOS

http://support.wdc.com/download/inde...id=999&swid=30

WRITE ZEROS TO DRIVE - The Write Zeros option, wipes any and all data off your drive. This option used when your data is no longer usable or recoverable. If you no longer need any data from your drive and would like to start over, run this option to set your drive to an as new condition. NOTE: Please make sure that you have selected the correct drive to perform this function on as once ran, no data will be recoverable.

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Originally Posted by AstroCreep

Do you know how many passes it makes?

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I usually do 1, but there's 3, 5, and 7 I believe. One of them actually says, "Used by the DoD or DoD certified," lol.

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Originally Posted by kapster

Now when I go to install windows it keeps saying the partition I made is invalid for windows install. and i make a new one and same message. So im stuck. I was hoping to install before bed but i guess not.

i have read about the raptor problems but have not read how to fix them.

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first of all, the partition has to be a "primary" partition not an "extended" partition...i presume you knew that.

the other is, you need to set it to be an "active" primary partition...as long as the drive is set to be a primary partition, vista should be able to format it and then install the OS...XP will probably need to have that primary partition designated as "active"...

if you do not have a secondary OS to do this from, then you will have to use MS DOS Fdisk prog or some other variation to get it done within dos environment...the only problem here is that will be done in FAT32...NTFS is the more reliable file system since it can repair itself if it detects an error where FAT32 needs scandisk prog to effect a repair.

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

I usually do 1, but there's 3, 5, and 7 I believe. One of them actually says, "Used by the DoD or DoD certified," lol.

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i bet that is to "make sure" the disk is totally wiped clean for security purposes...the FBI probably can lift old data off a drive even when you have done a complete re-write of zero's to the drive.

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Originally Posted by georgesod

Does anybody know why when i set those 2 subtimings in bios i get different values in memset? For example i manually set both of them to 10 and they seem to be 18 in memset.

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I don't know why, but for me the difference was 7 with IP35 Pro BIOS 10. So I subtracted 7 from each and manually set the lower values, 6 & 3, and MemSet reported the higher values 13 & 10.

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Originally Posted by maxwedge

You know I was thinking of doing that but didn't get around to it at the time, but I'll have some free time Wednesday and my meter is still sitting here so I'll see if it changes anything. I doubt it will because I see no change in software voltage readings when the ddr2 vvt is changed.

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i will eventualy yank my board out and read it when i swap out boards...i am curious now:)

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Originally Posted by Master of None

I don't know why, but for me the difference was 7 with IP35 Pro BIOS 10. So I subtracted 7 from each and manually set the lower values, 6 & 3, and MemSet reported the higher values 13 & 10.

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For this "problem", read post #583 in this thread . :)

I can confirm what another said about the v1.10 being shipped with bios 14. Mine was bios 14 which I'll leave it at til I get this thing rolling. I haven't updated a bios in a long time, so the guide seems really easy, just that runme.bat stuff is a tad slight confusing.

Maybe it's just because I just woke up lol, anyways...the website pictures don't do the board enough justice...it's such a nice looking beauty.

Here's to a soulclap for Abit on another fine board, my 5th one now :clap:

Ok few questions here

For a person like me which of the IP35 boards do you guys reccomend?

Basiclly what I want is STABILITY, OVERCLOCKING AND PERFORMANCE

I have a E6320 CPU that overclocks well up to 3.5 ghz is the most I ever tested it....Id be happy with 3.2-3.4ghz as long as its stable.....I will go quad core once the games that I play become coded for it and show improvment until then the E6320 will do me fine......I also will not need SLI/Crosfire......Basicly something thats good for a core2 duo now and quad in the future for a normal oc nothing Xtreme :p

Also Intel Matrix Raid is that just on the Ip35 Pro or does the Ip35 have it also? According to newegg its just the PRo..

Does this board work with the creative X-FI?

And before I get these boards anything u reccomend physical mods and crap before i assemble the system?

E6320
2 x 1 GB G.Skill HZ DDR2 800mhz
8800GTS 320MB
Corsair HX 620W PSU
1 x 74 and 36 GB WD Raptors 8mb Cache
X-Fi Sound Card
XP Pro SP2

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Originally Posted by Master of None

For at least a week IP35 Pro version 1.1 boards have been shipping with BIOS 14.

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Has anyone found references about differences between revision 1.0 and 1.1 other than preloaded BIOS version?

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Originally Posted by atlr

Has anyone found references about differences between revision 1.0 and 1.1 other than preloaded BIOS version?

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I asked the Abit Technician here in the UK last week, he said he would look into it & get back to me, I'll remind him.

Has anyone noticed any kind of performace increase from bios 11 to bios 14?

Specifically HDD performace. Mabye I can finally get my storage drives to work!:)

I wished abit would fix the issues with ip35-e i love this board but double boot sorta annoying. Cant complain about how stable it is and how easy it got my e6600 to 3600mhz.

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Originally Posted by balewolf

I wished abit would fix the issues with ip35-e i love this board but double boot sorta annoying. Cant complain about how stable it is and how easy it got my e6600 to 3600mhz.

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Beta 13 BIOS fixes the double post problem.

Somewhat fixes it i had more problems with beta 13 like no post half the time and slower superpi times. 12 fixes the superpi times and no double post on reboot but still does it on shutdown.

I just finished the heatpipe mod and temps are indeed lower, particularly the PWM which feel from almost 90C after 30 mins of Prime95 to 78C. I have 2 40mm fans blowing on the PWM and Northbridge.

I would recommend using only 1/2" screw instead of 3/4". There is plenty of room even with the 1/2". I found that reversing the direction of the screw on the northbridge heatsink helped because there was not enough room to fit the nut from the top. The screw was too close to the heatsink that it just would not fit. The 3/4" screw was way too long that it didn't allow for enough clearance for the motherboard once mounted on the case.

I also would recommend using a simple o-ring instead of a rubber gromet. The only rubber gromet I could find at Ace Hardware was almost 1cm thick. Even though it got smushed to a much smaller thickness once screwed down, it was just too big. The rubber o-ring was literally as small as the nut.

ok fella's...i tweaked my bios flashing guide to include flashing from the USB drive..i hope it is clear enough for you novices.:D

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Originally Posted by terrybogard

I haven't updated a bios in a long time, so the guide seems really easy, just that runme.bat stuff is a tad slight confusing.

Maybe it's just because I just woke up lol, anyways...

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what do you want to know about the RUNME.BAT or ABITFAE.BAT?

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

ok fella's...i tweaked my bios flashing guide to include flashing from the USB drive..i hope it is clear enough for you novices.:D

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...what's a USB drive? :p

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Originally Posted by AstroCreep

...what's a USB drive? :p:

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always the consummate joker!:D:up:

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

:D

what do you want to know about the RUNME.BAT or ABITFAE.BAT?

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i was just wondering if I replace the actually bios files with these ones along with renaming the beta bios name.

Also I loaded windows and everything seemed great, then I go to load the chipset starter cd and restart. When windows loads my mouse and keyboard no longer power on.

The only thing I change in the bios related to the keyboard was setting it to work/have support in the bios and not just the OS

any suggestions? might reformat and try it again....


update:

Also I am going through the USB ports on the MB, but I also tried going into windows through the ps/2 ports and still no power, yet I am able to get full kayboard support in bios but not in windows

I have bios 14 w/ windows SP2 and v1.10 MB

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i was just wondering if I replace the actually bios files with these ones along with renaming the beta bios name.

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follow my guide...it tells to edit in windows the runme.bat with the correct bios file name and also to edit the abitfae.bat with the switches

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Also I loaded windows and everything seemed great, then I go to load the chipset starter cd and restart. When windows loads my mouse and keyboard no longer power on.

The only thing I change in the bios related to the keyboard was setting it to work/have support in the bios and not just the OS

any suggestions? might reformat and try it again....


update:

Also I am going through the USB ports on the MB, but I also tried going into windows through the ps/2 ports and still no power, yet I am able to get full kayboard support in bios but not in windows

I have bios 14 w/ windows SP2 and v1.10 MB

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one of the drawbacks to having an all USB setup with keyboard and mouse...you need to switch out the mouse with a P/S2 mouse when you install the INF drivers and then have to reboot...all the drivers including the USB get reinstalled..during that process, your USB keyboard and mouse go dead until the drivers are permanently installed..that happens on the next reboot....USB is convenient because of its plug-n-play feature but it sure hampers the operation when you do an Intel INF update.

Is someone can confirm that memset don't work in write after flashing with bios #14 ??

yes it doesn't work since b12 and afterwards:(

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yes it doesn't work since b12 and afterwards:(

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...so Memtest won't work with this board running bios 12 or later? :confused:

OK, it's the same for my IP_35 Pro since I flashed with Ver.14.
It's seem that Abit locked mchbar in write, and I can't do nothing :mad: .

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Is someone can confirm that memset don't work in write after flashing with bios #14 ??

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3.4 beta 1 works:) Both with 14 and beta 16:up:
Edit: maybe because I just use it for info purposes and don't adjust with it, lol.:shrug:
Edit again: yeah it doesn't work with 16 either.

...could you try to adjust tRAS for test? thank.

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...could you try to adjust tRAS for test? thank.

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Gonna give it a go later on, and report back.

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...could you try to adjust tRAS for test? thank.

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tRAS will not change with memtest 3.4 beta 1 and using IP35 Pro beta bios 16.

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...could you try to adjust tRAS for test? thank.

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Doesn't change. The number in memset will change but whats reported in cpuz doesn't change. Doesn't matter if lock mch bar is selected or not.
Apply, Save and About are all unselectable.

Has anyone gotten their ram upto ddr1200 or close to it? I can get to about 1180 with 2.2v on the ddr and then it's like a wall and no voltages will get rid of errors in memtest. I'll keep at it but if anyone has done it speak up please.:up:

Ok so I need to update the intel chipset drivers for sure, will do that. Need a optical mouse/keyboard when doing that *looks at pile of junk*.

1) Can anyone tell me what RAM settings I should be running at, I have the crucial RAM from newegg.com 2 x 1 Model# BL12864AA804 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565

On the website it says to run it at 2.2v So I set it to that and it seems to run fine I guess, but maybe the issues I list below may be in conjunction with the RAM voltage. My timings are 5-5-5-15 2T and I hope the 15 and 5's are in the right place lol

2) CPU-Z is showing my core speed @ 1224 w/ a multi of x6 and a bus speed of 204. Now in bios it is set 9 x 204 = 1804. I have version 1.41 of CPU-Z
(My core voltage is @ 1.170 in CPU-Z but in bios @ 1.32 ???)

3) When running prime95, do I just take the .exe file and copy/paste in another directory and then run one test on CPU 0 and another on CPU 1?

4) Core Temp restarts my damn computer when I open it...

5) TAT gives me the error "Error Enumerating on Demand Clock Modulation Support." Terminating Tool :confused:

6) Can someone list anything other then the new intel chipset drivers or software I should be installing as well please!

I have to admit; it's been forever since I got into bios and overclocking so please bare with me. 5th Abit mobo in like 7 years so I know my way around the bios, it's just getting the settings right. Thanks for the help in advance

-Terry

Update:
Issue#4 was corrected by downloading the correct version or just re-downloading period...
Issue#2 was corrected somewhat; read a very nice sticky on this chipset about the CIE1 or whatever it's called, having a idle multi & a what I set in bios. It's like having 2 different modes, which is nice, but then again not nice. Just gotta figure out where in the bios can I turn this off.
Issue#1 has been corrected by just changing the settings in the bios and sticking to what the website suggests
Issue#3 was fixed by just downloading the correct file/better of orthos and running that as my bench/overclock tester

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

one of the drawbacks to having an all USB setup with keyboard and mouse...you need to switch out the mouse with a P/S2 mouse when you install the INF drivers and then have to reboot...all the drivers including the USB get reinstalled..during that process, your USB keyboard and mouse go dead until the drivers are permanently installed..that happens on the next reboot....USB is convenient because of its plug-n-play feature but it sure hampers the operation when you do an Intel INF update.

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That's not the case with my IP35 Pro. I have usb keyboard/mouse (usb support set to bios), i have made two formats in this system and both times i haven't had a prob when installing intel's inf. Of course it loses keyboard and mouse when installing the usb driver, but after a while it finds them.


Some other things that i've seen mentioned in earlier posts. My IP35 Pro v1.00 came with bios 10 installed. Plus vmem undervolts (with ddr reference voltage set to 0%). With 2.325v in bios, i get 2.3v idle and 2.28v under load.

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Has anyone gotten their ram upto ddr1200 or close to it? I can get to about 1180 with 2.2v on the ddr and then it's like a wall and no voltages will get rid of errors in memtest. I'll keep at it but if anyone has done it speak up please.:up:

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DDR2-118x seems to be the limit on my board as well.
Tried all possible slot configurations, various DDR2 memory kits ( tested on various boards, reaching DDR2-1250+ ), various BIOSes, settings, etc.
Still, DDR2-118x wall.

Thank you all for the quick responses about my raptor. did the write zeros thing from the WD Diagnostics tool and my raptor is running fine. First I tried it without doing this and it would fail to load windows half the time.

First thing I wanted to do was update the bios so I installed Flashmenu and downloaded bios 12. But it seems to be stuck at "Programming Main Block 22%". its been this way for 10 min now. Has this happened to anyone else? I really don't want a dead board. Im thinking about just restarting but im scared.

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My IP35 Pro v1.00 came with bios 10 installed. Plus vmem undervolts (with ddr reference voltage set to 0%). With 2.325v in bios, i get 2.3v idle and 2.28v under load.

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I've just tested with ddr reference set to +2%. Vmem undervolting is absolutely the same. So no real help.

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I've just tested with ddr reference set to +2%. Vmem undervolting is absolutely the same. So no real help.

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Are you checking with a voltmeter? Mine undervolts to but not by much.

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Are you checking with a voltmeter? Mine undervolts to but not by much.

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No, i'm referring to uguru readings. Vdrop between idle and load is 0.02v.
Undervolting is 0.025v idle and 0.045v load

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Originally Posted by terrybogard

Ok so I need to update the intel chipset drivers for sure, will do that. Need a optical mouse/keyboard when doing that *looks at pile of junk*.

1) Can anyone tell me what RAM settings I should be running at, I have the crucial RAM from newegg.com 2 x 1 Model# BL12864AA804 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565

On the website it says to run it at 2.2v So I set it to that and it seems to run fine I guess, but maybe the issues I list below may be in conjunction with the RAM voltage. My timings are 5-5-5-15 2T and I hope the 15 and 5's are in the right place lol

2) CPU-Z is showing my core speed @ 1224 w/ a multi of x6 and a bus speed of 204. Now in bios it is set 9 x 204 = 1804. I have version 1.41 of CPU-Z
(My core voltage is @ 1.170 in CPU-Z but in bios @ 1.32 ???)

3) When running prime95, do I just take the .exe file and copy/paste in another directory and then run one test on CPU 0 and another on CPU 1?

4) Core Temp restarts my damn computer when I open it...

5) TAT gives me the error "Error Enumerating on Demand Clock Modulation Support." Terminating Tool :confused:

6) Can someone list anything other then the new intel chipset drivers or software I should be installing as well please!

I have to admit; it's been forever since I got into bios and overclocking so please bare with me. 5th Abit mobo in like 7 years so I know my way around the bios, it's just getting the settings right. Thanks for the help in advance

-Terry

Update:
Issue#4 was corrected by downloading the correct version or just re-downloading period...
Issue#2 was corrected somewhat; read a very nice sticky on this chipset about the CIE1 or whatever it's called, having a idle multi & a what I set in bios. It's like having 2 different modes, which is nice, but then again not nice. Just gotta figure out where in the bios can I turn this off.
Issue#1 has been corrected by just changing the settings in the bios and sticking to what the website suggests
Issue#3 was fixed by just downloading the correct file/better of orthos and running that as my bench/overclock tester

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Looks like you fixed most of your problems. However I would suggest lowering your DDR voltage to 2.0v. It will most likely still work just fine. I have 2 sets of them and they will both do 1000mhz at the 5-5-5-15-30-2T settings at only 2.0v.

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

DDR2-118x seems to be the limit on my board as well.
Tried all possible slot configurations, various DDR2 memory kits ( tested on various boards, reaching DDR2-1250+ ), various BIOSes, settings, etc.
Still, DDR2-118x wall.

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Thanks for the reply. I've heard that there is a problem but was hoping someone had done though.

Heres where I've gotten to so far with a combination of fast cpu and ddr. I've gotten into the low 1180's for the ddr with the 7x and lower clock on the cpu.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...er/ddr1152.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...estLatency.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...verestread.jpg

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Thank you all for the quick responses about my raptor. did the write zeros thing from the WD Diagnostics tool and my raptor is running fine. First I tried it without doing this and it would fail to load windows half the time.

First thing I wanted to do was update the bios so I installed Flashmenu and downloaded bios 12. But it seems to be stuck at "Programming Main Block 22%". its been this way for 10 min now. Has this happened to anyone else? I really don't want a dead board. Im thinking about just restarting but im scared.

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Through out this whole thread you are warned not to use flashmenu to update the bios. It doesn't work half the time. The same thing happened to me and it bricked my board but I eventually got it working again. DO NOT USE FLASHMENU! :down:

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

No, i'm referring to uguru readings. Vdrop between idle and load is 0.02v.
Undervolting is 0.025v idle and 0.045v load

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This is what I measured with my Fluke meter and my system in the bios. I didn't measure under 2.2v. Tomorrow I'll take a few readings at idle and with Orthos blend running.

Setting...............uguru in bios............dvom reading

2.2v...................2.21v...................... .2.189v
2.225v................2.23v....................... 2.209v
2.250v................2.25v....................... 2.235v
2.275v................2.29v....................... 2.258v
2.30v..................2.31v...................... 2.286v
2.325v.................2.33v...................... 2.308v
2.350v.................2.35v...................... 2.335v
2.375v.................2.38v...................... 2.360v
2.400v.................2.41v...................... 2.392v
2.425v.................2.43v...................... 2.411v

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Through out this whole thread you are warned not to use flashmenu to update the bios. It doesn't work half the time. The same thing happened to me and it bricked my board but I eventually got it working again. DO NOT USE FLASHMENU! :down:

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Then I must have balls of steel then...used windows-based flash for both my IP35 and IP35 Pro boards with no problems.

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Originally Posted by Soulburner

Looks like you fixed most of your problems. However I would suggest lowering your DDR voltage to 2.0v. It will most likely still work just fine. I have 2 sets of them and they will both do 1000mhz at the 5-5-5-15-30-2T settings at only 2.0v.

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Ok I'll make those changes in the bios, but I got a small annoying thing I need to change.

Issues:
1) Abit Uguru doesn't work, so I'm wondering If I should just uninstall it and then go ahead and reinstall it again.
2) Tat still gives me issues; so can someone point me to a link of a version that has worked and is updated please
3) C1E & EIST have got to go; it's killing my computer...Well it's causing freezes when I go from not needing power to BAM there you go. I want to disabled this stuff; but where in the bios can I find it *reading manual as he's typing*
4) Is it safe to do the Intel chipset update with still using USB, because I can't find any optical mouse/keyboard to use

-Terrybogard

update(s):
Issue#3 was fixed by just finding in the manual where to go and disabling that crap, thank the mobo gods.

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Originally Posted by derektm

Through out this whole thread you are warned not to use flashmenu to update the bios. It doesn't work half the time. The same thing happened to me and it bricked my board but I eventually got it working again. DO NOT USE FLASHMENU! :down:

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my bios is toast. I had no idea flashmenu sucked. I have been using winflash for my last few boards without a problem. Any suggestions on how to get it working again?

Right now it boots and says BIOS Checksum error and it searches for drive A.

I loaded up a boot disk with awdflash and the bios and made an autoexec.bat file telling it to flash. What happens is the flash utility will load and under message it will say: "Please Wait" and it just stays there.

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my bios is toast. I had no idea flashmenu sucked. I have been using winflash for my last few boards without a problem. Any suggestions on how to get it working again?

Right now it boots and says BIOS Checksum error and it searches for drive A.

I loaded up a boot disk with awdflash and the bios and made an autoexec.bat file telling it to flash. What happens is the flash utility will load and under message it will say: "Please Wait" and it just stays there.

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I remember flashing my NF7v2 with the wrong bios and it fried it. You might need to get a new bios chip from Abit, which shouldnt be to bad. The only other way is to flash it the way some users have noted in there sigs or on the first page. I'm sticking with 14 for now; and then move onto beta once the new cooler comes in.

GL though

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my bios is toast. I had no idea flashmenu sucked. I have been using winflash for my last few boards without a problem. Any suggestions on how to get it working again?

Right now it boots and says BIOS Checksum error and it searches for drive A.

I loaded up a boot disk with awdflash and the bios and made an autoexec.bat file telling it to flash. What happens is the flash utility will load and under message it will say: "Please Wait" and it just stays there.

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take the battery out, reset the jumper. cross ur fingures. You could have abit send u another rom chip, if u can get ahold of someone to do that. They are elusive over at abit

try to reflash after clearing cmos over night, if it works your fine

You can get the bios chip at the parts store.
http://www.uabit.com/WebStore/produc...5k3hhu3tquj8f4

Probably comes down to CPU limits along with the interaction of the motherboard ... :)

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

DDR2-118x seems to be the limit on my board as well.
Tried all possible slot configurations, various DDR2 memory kits ( tested on various boards, reaching DDR2-1250+ ), various BIOSes, settings, etc.
Still, DDR2-118x wall.

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Originally Posted by maxwedge

Thanks for the reply. I've heard that there is a problem but was hoping someone had done though.

Heres where I've gotten to so far with a combination of fast cpu and ddr. I've gotten into the low 1180's for the ddr with the 7x and lower clock on the cpu.

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@Neil,

Well DDR3-1200 ain't that far away from 1198 :p: :D that I've just reached with a new kit, but still not as good as other mobos.

Tried 5 CPUs, same results

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Probably comes down to CPU limits along with the interaction of the motherboard ... :)

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Nice!:up: What kind of volts on those sticks.

I'm getting 1188 now but only 5 5 5 12!:rofl:

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That's not the case with my IP35 Pro. I have usb keyboard/mouse (usb support set to bios), i have made two formats in this system and both times i haven't had a prob when installing intel's inf. Of course it loses keyboard and mouse when installing the usb driver, but after a while it finds them.

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i guess i should leave mine in the "bios" mode..sounds like a plan..thanks.

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Originally Posted by maxwedge

Nice!:up: What kind of volts on those sticks.

I'm getting 1188 now but only 5 5 5 12!:rofl:

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I'm wondering if I should try my settings @ 4-4-4-12...

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i guess i should leave mine in the "bios" mode..sounds like a plan..thanks.

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I can't find any optical in my place or nearby...think it be safe to update the chipset using usb? :(

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You can get the bios chip at the parts store.
http://www.uabit.com/WebStore/produc...5k3hhu3tquj8f4

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thanks for that link...i tagged that if i blow it with my board.

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I'm wondering if I should try my settings @ 4-4-4-12...



I can't find any optical in my place or nearby...think it be safe to update the chipset using usb? :(

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let me do re-install of the Intl INF drivers using joebar's solution....my keyboard is a P/S2 but my mouse is an USB type...will report back in about 5-10 minutes.