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03-06-2009, 05:17 AM
D3mon_Hunt3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by woffen

To be stable at 4 GHz or above I had to increase these voltages:

IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.27v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.25v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.7v

Caught them in this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=214381. They seemed to do the difference in stability. 20 x 200 seems impossible for me though. Using 21 x 192 atm. I have a vcore of 1.45 and VTT of 1.4.

For a 200 bclk I need VTT of 1.5 or above to post, this feels like a little too much for 24/7 use..

My sounds enters a loop at Vista Startup (Orb). If i put it at 20x200.
I have 1.4 Vcore, 1.44 VTT 1.65 Dram.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krautmaster

thanks a lot. Of course I tried 191x21, without improvements. Today i try to find max bclk.

What is VTT Voltage for? Tested the latest beta yesterday too. I will max out this CPU, but i think i'll get a new one within 14 days. Is it possible that the board is causing these instabilities?

Can i fix multi to 21, the turbo multi. When there is only one core active, i've got multi 22, which may result in bluesceen.

I need to find max block too. I'm kind lazy when it comes to OC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krautmaster

damn, got my 3837B395 yesterday. Tryed about 7 hours to push it to 4 Ghz.
No Chance to get 20x200 stable with 1,45 V + :(

Settings are:

Turbo OFF / HT ON
20x200 BCLK = 4000Mhz @ 1,45V +
VDROP CONTROL disabled
RAM BCLK*8 = 1600 8-8-8-24 @ 1,665 V DDR Bus Voltage (Corsair Dominator)
VTT = 1,25V
Uncore BCLK*16 = 3200 Mhz
QPI 4,800 GT/s

If I start prime 95 stress test, system runs for about 10-30 seconds, then freeze. I never got a prime error, system feezes always! Normal?

I tested VTT 1,21 to 1,61V, didn't help. :shrug:

Any ideas? BIOS is the latest nonbeta.

Thanks 4 help.

BTW: Cooled by EK Supreme ca 70-75°C @ 1,45V

O'm hoping that doesn't happen to me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

It's not about the board really, you have to find a 920 that a) likes the 21x mult (only 3 of the 5 I tested like it) and b) one that is a good clocker. Unfortunately even good CPUs may not like certain mults, so it's possible you can run 200x19 at 1,2V but 200x21 remains impossible even at 1,5V :(
That's the real advantage of the 940 and up, you can pick the CPus favourite mult which makes a huge difference.

Yeah i've been reading about that too guess i'll have to start from the bottom, instead of cranking volts and praying it works.
03-06-2009, 05:37 AM
SAE

@jugeen
What Kingston RAM is that exactly? :D Great stuff, mate!

BTW, the 4th column of Jedec/XMP settings lokks really weird! :eek:
03-06-2009, 05:38 AM
jugeen

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

@jugeen
What Kingston RAM is that exactly? :D Great stuff, mate!

BTW, the 4th column of Jedec/XMP settings lokks really weird! :eek:

KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX, XMP has bug
03-07-2009, 05:02 PM
westsider

i just love this board
i passed uncore 4600MHz with this beast
03-08-2009, 09:37 AM
GNU

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregorisvas

I visited the site and got no alternative ;) So if you have one please share ;)

They posted it in the DFI Forum. csd.dficlub.org
03-25-2009, 09:41 PM
Pedalmonkey

Has anyone here watercooled the Heatpipe System on this board?? or does DFI's cooling solution do a good enough job with some active cooling??
04-22-2009, 12:11 AM
masska

2X4870X2 wont post. error 26

Finished this build about a week ago. Everything working fine, except my 2 x 4870X2's wont post with error 26. I've tried everything I can think of including Eva's (thanks eva) suggestion on increasing the memory lowgap.I've also tried to update the bios with a usb stick with no success.Tried 2 different brands of sticks however the system refused to boot up from usb. I've pulled my loop apart 4 times already trying to fix the problem and Iam almost ready to toss this board out.
The only way the system will boot is when I install my spare 4870.As soon as I put even one of the 4870X2's,,, nothing.Tried using different slots and also tried clearing cmos. I hope someone here can help or at least point me to the right direction.
My specs:
DFI UT X58-T3eH8
I7 920
6gb Crucial Ballistixs Tracer DDR3-1600
Ultra X1600 PSU
Water Cooling Aquaduct 720: Enzotech Luna and 2X HK 4870X2 water blocks.
04-22-2009, 04:08 AM
LockBreaker

Its not the board. I've heard of the same problem with different X58 boards too. :)

I've talked to a guy with the same problem regarding the Foxconn Renaissance board. :)

Try to update the BIOS while using the 4870?
04-22-2009, 04:18 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by masska

Finished this build about a week ago. Everything working fine, except my 2 x 4870X2's wont post with error 26. I've tried everything I can think of including Eva's (thanks eva) suggestion on increasing the memory lowgap.I've also tried to update the bios with a usb stick with no success.Tried 2 different brands of sticks however the system refused to boot up from usb. I've pulled my loop apart 4 times already trying to fix the problem and Iam almost ready to toss this board out.
The only way the system will boot is when I install my spare 4870.As soon as I put even one of the 4870X2's,,, nothing.Tried using different slots and also tried clearing cmos. I hope someone here can help or at least point me to the right direction.
My specs:
DFI UT X58-T3eH8
I7 920
6gb Crucial Ballistixs Tracer DDR3-1600
Ultra X1600 PSU
Water Cooling Aquaduct 720: Enzotech Luna and 2X HK 4870X2 water blocks.

Seeing as I've used my DFI with a HD4870X2 from day one, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work. So it doesn't even work with 1 of the cards, let alone 2? Only way I can think of is flashing the vga bios to that of another, working card. The issue must be in the vid card's bios. What brand are they? Reference design?
04-22-2009, 04:22 AM
LockBreaker

Have you tried clearing CMOS? It says so in the manual. :)
04-22-2009, 04:42 AM
masska

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Its not the board. I've heard of the same problem with different X58 boards too. :)

I've talked to a guy with the same problem regarding the Foxconn Renaissance board. :)

Try to update the BIOS while using the 4870?

I've tried to update the bios with a usb boot with no success. I just didn't want to pull the loop apart again if I can help it. I guess if I cant find another option, I'll take out the 4870X2's and just run the 4870 until I get the problem fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Seeing as I've used my DFI with a HD4870X2 from day one, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work. So it doesn't even work with 1 of the cards, let alone 2? Only way I can think of is flashing the vga bios to that of another, working card. The issue must be in the vid card's bios. What brand are they? Reference design?

Your lucky yours was good first go. Where you using the box bios?
Somehow I don't think its the card bios, rather the motherboard bios.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Have you tried clearing CMOS? It says so in the manual. :)

Yep I've tried clearing CMOS and doing a cold by removing the battery.
04-22-2009, 04:45 AM
masska

forgot to mention jcool. The cards are Saphire with the HK 4870X2 water blocks :up:
04-22-2009, 04:53 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by masska

Somehow I don't think its the card bios, rather the motherboard bios.

While the board can't be ruled out I know quite a few people that are using at least one 4870x2 without issue.
04-22-2009, 05:02 AM
masska

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

While the board can't be ruled out I know quite a few people that are using at least one 4870x2 without issue.

I know, its just my luck. I'd like to know though if its the boxed bios that is the issue,or something else. :up:
04-22-2009, 06:58 AM
i7luver

I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing very slow hibernation recoveries, it takes about 2 - 3 minutes for my computer to recover, whereas starting it fresh takes a much shorter time, I've resorted to just shutting it down now, I know its not a very big deal, but still a nuisance nonetheless, has anyone successfully found the reason behind the long hibernation recovery times on this board? I'm using vista 64bit, 6gb ocz plats, 4850x2 2gb. Thanks!
04-22-2009, 07:54 AM
woffen

Have you tried your X2 cards in another setup to rule them out?
04-22-2009, 09:17 AM
LockBreaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by masska

I've tried to update the bios with a usb boot with no success. I just didn't want to pull the loop apart again if I can help it. I guess if I cant find another option, I'll take out the 4870X2's and just run the 4870 until I get the problem fixed.

Your lucky yours was good first go. Where you using the box bios?
Somehow I don't think its the card bios, rather the motherboard bios.

Yep I've tried clearing CMOS and doing a cold by removing the battery.

If I understand you correctly, you haven't upgraded the BIOS yet, have you?

I talked to the guy with the Renaissance, and the problem was solved when he installed the latest BIOS.
04-23-2009, 02:42 AM
masska

no its the boxed bios and I haven't flashed to the latest one yet.
Hopefully I'll get some time to do it over the weekend. It would be great if DFI had a tool to flash like Asus and Gigabyte,it would make updating so much easier. I hope it is the bios though :up:
04-23-2009, 04:08 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by masska

Your lucky yours was good first go. Where you using the box bios?
Somehow I don't think its the card bios, rather the motherboard bios.

Well, you are the first one I hear of having issues with an X2 card on the DFI. I was one of the first people to get a retail mobo, and I had my X2 already running in the previous DFI x38, and I have tried almost all bios versions between the oldest and latest, so it should work. I am still guessing it's the card's bios. I got a PowerCOlor reference design card (Heatkiller too :D ) so maybe I can extract my card's bios and send it to you, if flashing your mobo bios doesn't help.

Have you ruled out the PSU? No red lights may be lighted on the back of the cards when you turn it on, otherwise it's a power issue.
04-23-2009, 04:28 AM
masska

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Well, you are the first one I hear of having issues with an X2 card on the DFI. I was one of the first people to get a retail mobo, and I had my X2 already running in the previous DFI x38, and I have tried almost all bios versions between the oldest and latest, so it should work. I am still guessing it's the card's bios. I got a PowerCOlor reference design card (Heatkiller too :D ) so maybe I can extract my card's bios and send it to you, if flashing your mobo bios doesn't help.

Have you ruled out the PSU? No red lights may be lighted on the back of the cards when you turn it on, otherwise it's a power issue.

I've been finding some people with 2 x 4870X2's having issues with the DFIX58,which mainly was caused by the mobo bios and a couple with their type of VGA connector:confused:. I assume your only running the one 4870X2, is this correct? The Sapphire is reference design too and I still feel its not the card bios, or at least I hope note.Never flashed a card before and I hear its hairy business! I'm getting no lights comming on on the cards whatsoever and my PSU has more than enough power to accommodate the setup. Do you have power going to the 4 pins next to the PCI slots? or only to the 6 and 8 on the cards? I'd appreciate if you could send me your card bios, just incase your right and that is the problem. Oh and make sure you include instructions on the safest way to flash:yepp:
How are you finding the HK blocks? I've got two of them sitting there looking at me and I cant even play with them yet...:up:
04-23-2009, 05:54 AM
masska

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

If I understand your correctly, you haven't upgraded the BIOS yet, have you?

I talked to the guy with the Renaissance, and the problem was solved when he installed the latest BIOS.

The guy with the Renaissance, do you know what version bios he's using? Is it 217 or 218? And is he running 2 4870X2's?
04-23-2009, 09:34 AM
LockBreaker

He's running two 4870 X2's, yes. :)

I suppose it's the newest version, but I could check with him. Will probably take a little time before he replies back to me, since it's a forum.

He is using version P10, since it's a Foxconn motherboard. :)
04-23-2009, 03:24 PM
masska

Quote:

Originally Posted by masska

The guy with the Renaissance, do you know what version bios he's using? Is it 217 or 218? And is he running 2 4870X2's?

:hammer: ignore my last post. 217 and 218 are DFI numbers.dumb.
06-01-2009, 12:30 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by westsider

achieved 219.38 :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=502404
#
with the worst 920 ever
vid 1.30
and vcore for this result was 1.984v
http://i021.radikal.ru/0902/55/adb2a8ea2885.jpg

my custom wattercooling system ;)

:shocked:My gosh, that must've been 300W just for the CPU when under full load! :shocked:
06-28-2009, 01:58 PM
westsider

and now
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=593642
246+ under water and D0
06-29-2009, 05:14 AM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by westsider

and now
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=593642
246+ under water and D0

What happened to the voltage in CPU-Z this time?? Did you push it over 2.0v?!? :lol:
06-29-2009, 06:58 AM
westsider

this one is D0 dude
1.98 was just for fun with chilled water :D
i have already solt that CPu
06-29-2009, 07:47 AM
LockBreaker

Hi

I own this board, but recently I have experienced problems with it. When I power on the computer, it stops at error-code 75. Which can mean three things:

1. Lost power source of some devices. (I've checked. No loose contacts whatsoever)

2. Incompatible SATA or PATA device. (Don't think so, because the computer has worked fine previously to this incident)

3. CD-ROM's spin took too long. (It could be the CD-ROM cause I'm seeing blinking blue light from the front of it, and that has never occured before)

The CD-ROM, or rather HD-DVD thingy, is a LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray HD-DVD.

Can anyone help me?

I'm really concerned about this problem because much of my private documents is stored at the HDD of this machine. :(
06-29-2009, 11:50 AM
westsider

do you use some voltage regulator between the board and Fan?
06-29-2009, 12:32 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by westsider

this one is D0 dude
1.98 was just for fun with chilled water :D
i have already solt that CPu

Just wondering--what was the PSU you used when feeding 1.98v to that C0?

For most PSU's, pushing the voltage past 1.6v would probably pull the 12V rail down to less than 11.4v or so, I would guess, right?
06-29-2009, 12:35 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Hi

I own this board, but recently I have experienced problems with it. When I power on the computer, it stops at error-code 75. Which can mean three things:

1. Lost power source of some devices. (I've checked. No loose contacts whatsoever)

2. Incompatible SATA or PATA device. (Don't think so, because the computer has worked fine previously to this incident)

3. CD-ROM's spin took too long. (It could be the CD-ROM cause I'm seeing blinking blue light from the front of it, and that has never occured before)

The CD-ROM, or rather HD-DVD thingy, is a LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray HD-DVD.

Can anyone help me?

I'm really concerned about this problem because much of my private documents is stored at the HDD of this machine. :(

Just try unplugging the CD drive first and see.. if you have another PSU, try plugging it in. Also, if all fails, then take your HD to another rig and copy all of the data off it. That's one of the reasons why I love having 2 rigs, so I have at least 2 of everything.
06-29-2009, 07:50 PM
westsider

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Just wondering--what was the PSU you used when feeding 1.98v to that C0?

For most PSU's, pushing the voltage past 1.6v would probably pull the 12V rail down to less than 11.4v or so, I would guess, right?

i have piperock 1100 watt
nope it pushed up without problems
11.84V ist minimum with 1kwt load
i have already tried with 2x 295 and 920@4.7
06-29-2009, 07:57 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Just wondering--what was the PSU you used when feeding 1.98v to that C0?

For most PSU's, pushing the voltage past 1.6v would probably pull the 12V rail down to less than 11.4v or so, I would guess, right?

depends on psu - OP1200 Silverstone 1200W here

Super Pi 1M & PiFast @4802Mhz at 1.584v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...8s406ms_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._1753ms_tn.png

Super Pi 32M @4794Mhz at 1.552v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...4s422ms_tn.png

Super Pi 32M @4677Mhz at 1.488v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...1s796ms_tn.png

westsider very nice 246bclk! what voltages used there for vdimm, cpu vtt, ioh/ich and ioh analogue ?
06-30-2009, 01:34 AM
westsider

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

westsider very nice 246bclk! what voltages used there for vdimm, cpu vtt, ioh/ich and ioh analogue ?

i used 1.65Vdimm
CPU VTT=1.55+0.500
IOH ANALogue :D =1.30V (DFI has some bug it has twice 1.35V why? )

i have used VTT frequency increase 30% to achieve max validation
and increase 15% gives me stable 241bclk

it was all under heatkiller 3.0

i played also with interleave

and used PCI-E 8X mode :D

i mean yellow slot :)
this slot goest only with 8X
with 16X i got 242 not a big difference but for 2D bench is a lot i think
i am going to freeze next week

i think using some PCI VGA could free the IOH from stress and 250+ would be for sure possible

does subzero hepl with Bclk?
has somebody expereience
my only dice with i7 was with UD5 and it didnt go over 233 neither with air nore under ice
05-14-2011, 03:55 PM
Renegado_ar

English Please. edited by runmc

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