I was unable to get my quads stable at higher than 3.8, so not sure what I can tell you other than try and tweak yourself, and see what you can do.
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I was unable to get my quads stable at higher than 3.8, so not sure what I can tell you other than try and tweak yourself, and see what you can do.
Thanks linflas, could you share your setting please? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
It would be nice to see the thread breathe a little, but my I'm at a loss.
I'm at a 1333 FSB, but if i move to 1334 the system losses stability. No matter what voltage level i set to whatever component. (1.2Vtt, vCore, SB, NB) none of it matters. To get to 1333 with 100% stability, i've set a 1.38 vCore. Runs 24/7 like that. Going to anything else and I can't finish a 32M SuperPi.
All in all, i feel thats ok- i mean, getting a $240 processor to run like the Extremely Expensive QX6800, i'm happy. I'd be ecstatic if I could get into the 3.2, 3.4 or even blow my load if i could see 3.6, or 3.8 BUt i have BAD luck with processors. ALthough, i'm not sure its not the board...... A very early run Striker Extreme. But i'm on the board for SLI - so switching to one of Intels new dang-fanlged chipsets really isn't the direction i want to go. Unless of course, two 8800GTX in SLi just doesn't have the performance gains to justify it. The driver hassles alone (Vista) make me want to ditch this PC habit anyway...........
I used linflas magic settings posted earlier in this thread and had no problems at all on the 1303 bios, have you tried them?
Does anyone know where to measure vcore with a mm on the Striker and if so could you post a pic please?
Thanks
Yes, I tried them. Aside from higher voltages, what magic is there? Given enough thrust --- even a ROCK will fly. Well, my rock isn't flying.........Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGuru
What settings did you try Khaotic? Where you not able to get 450x8 for 3.6 stable? That seems to be a solid clock on this board for pretty much all the G0 I have seen.
I am still awaiting my rma stuff, should all be here by Friday, but I work all weekend, so won't be back at it until Monday. I found all my bios chips in my mess, so if my rma has the old bios chip setup that is removable again, I will flash multi bios's on multiple chips and see what they can do.
I never tried the 1102 bios, or 1301, will try both of them, as 1303 was removed from ASUS site for a reason, may be why I had the failure on my board, dunno.
Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
I just got this G0 Quad about 2 weeks ago. Before that, I was running a Xeon 3060 at 3.2 - 3.4 but mostly at 3.2 Then, I flashed to 1305 and the overclock stopped being stable. After reading all the bad press here about 1305, I went back to 1303. SO, if there are any remanants of 1305 still in CMOS, that could be why I'm not having the resounding success that some folks are.
I have tried to lower my multi to 8x and it won't stick. I can set it and on the reboot it shows on the POST screen, but it seems by the time we get to Windows - it's back to a 9x. I do NOT have any of the Asus overclocking software intsalled. In fact, the only thing "installed" right now as far as hardware monitors is Everest Ultimate.
My G0 is a L731A364.
I have tried to use the setting that you have posted in the beginning of this thread. I'll print them out again and try again -
Thanks for the info - please keep in touch. I could use any suggestions at this point.
I still wonder why peeps flash 1305 while there have been so many ,numerous posts that it is not working correctly for most users from the day it was released ... try to pop the battery for half a day reflash it with 1301 or 1303 and try again...
Try these for 3.6 on 1303
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
CPU Multi 8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1800
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1800
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Vcore Voltage:1.525 for actual of 1.42
Memory Voltage:2.05
1.2v HT Voltage:1.7
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.65
CPU VTT Voltage:1.4
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto
tCL (CAS Latency): 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS:12
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200
Hey linflas did you need to change any of the NB, SB, CPU VTT, 1.2 HT etc... from your post above when you were running at 3.8? Also do you know where to read Vcore voltage with a mm on the board?
Thanks for the help :up:
Read the first page of the thread for 3.8 settings. Yes there are changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGuru
As to the VCORE have a look in the xtreme mods section for the VCORE measure points.
Linflas,
I flashed my Striker Extreme back to 1301. Flashed it once, pulled the battery for about 3 hours, then reapplied the 1301 flash again. I used the settings in your 1303 for 3.6 post and it did help me get a little further. Instead of a deadlock machine that wouldnt' POST after hitting the power button, I can POST, but Vista won't make it to the desktop. I tried more CPU volts and more NB volts. The 8 multi also looks to be 'sticking' unlike before - where i could SET an 8 multi, but it would just default back to a 9 after POST.
I went with lower memory bus to make sure my memory (OCZ Platinum) wasn't part of the problem.
I'm under the impression that certain CPU FSB / MEM BUS ratio's work better than others. Is there truth to that?
I also tried to lower the FSP down to 355 (1422) for 3.2, and that ALMOSt makes it to the desktop, but then it blue screens.
-------------UPDATE---------------
Ijust flashed back UP to 1303 and those settigns dio pretty much the same thing............
more and more i'm thinking that my bad luck on CPU acquisition is just doomed me to a life of 3.0 Ghz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
no, I doubt it, 99% of the time a blue screen is related to the memory, usually would just hard lock or crash without blue screen if CPU.
Do you have any other ram you can try, or have you run a memtest on that ram at stock speed to see if it is OK, it sucks to do, as you should run memtest for 8 hours, but you might find the source of your problem.
Also if your ram is D9 based micron chips you should drop your voltage to the 1.9-2.0V range in the bios, the 680i seems to be better on lower volts with D9.
Good luck, got my RMA Striker today, soldered in bios chip, which pretty much sucks ass, only good thing is, is that MWAVE.com sent me a whole new retail box motherboard, all I shipped them was a mobo, they shipped me a brand new retail mobo, no complaints there, as no refurb, brand new. My ram will be back tomorrow, will get things fired up before I leave for work tomorrow night, but won't be able to really play with it until monday.
1303 is no longer there in the download page but it's still available from Asus' FTP SiteQuote:
Originally Posted by linflas
Has anybody got news about the promised 14xx bios yet? :shrug:
Thank you linflas!Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
@Bloke, I knwo nothing of the 14xx bios, it is needed desperately though. Really wish it would come, probably will not see it this year though, my suspicion would be around penryn time.
@gameguru, your welcome.
Got my rig up and running just before I left for work, put 1301 on it, and just set it for 450x8, and set it to crunching on WCG, about the best stability test there is. Will check on it in the a.m. when I get home from work.
I tried a few x9 multi's 400 is a dead zone on 1301 also, and on 1305, tried that for like 2 boots, then got rid of it. Going to try 425 and 450 on the x9 multi when I have more time and see if I can't stabalise that.
I was playing around tonight with my DMM and Linflas's above posted settings with 1303 Bios (thanks for the settings Linflas). I go up over 70C at 450 x 8....gotta get a better HS - tuniq 120 right now - gonna try higher cfm fan later....so I haven't really tested stability for long periods of time yet. However, the point of my post is my voltage findings, not stability.
I'm on XP Pro 32-bit. I used Prime 95 v25.4 small fft's to load test. Striker extreme bought in Feb this year - says on board "pcb made in Taiwan" but, sticker on a pci slot says made in China. Lapped Q6600 L726A. DMM is somewhat old - Fluke 79 series II.
First I tried at stock settings except for ram timings (used 1000 Mhz 4 4 4 12 2T and 2.125 voltage set in BIOS, and auto vcore and auto pretty much everything else. Then I tried at 355.5 x 9 with 1.45 vcore and 2.1 memory voltage set in BIOS (same timings/speed). Then I tried at 450 x 8 with 1.525 vcore and 2.1 mem voltage set in BIOS (same timings/speed). I dropped the memory voltage because of the over-voltage I found was more than I expected (I knew it overvolted, just not exactly how much.)
On a side note, quick question: Does anyone have a picture of where to measure NB and SB voltages? (I'm a total noob and not exactly an electronics guru.) Thanks.
The results:
This is what I have for 3.7 on 1301, the VDROP/VDROOP on this new board is horrid.
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
CPU Multi 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: linked
x FSB - Memory Raio: synced
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1658
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1658
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 829
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 829
Vcore Voltage:1.625 for actual of 1.47
Memory Voltage:2.00
1.2v HT Voltage:1.7
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.65
CPU VTT Voltage:1.5
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto
tCL (CAS Latency): 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS:12
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200
@linflas:
when you say "Vcore Voltage:1.625 for actual of 1.47", is that 1.47v at load? Measured with a DMM?
Thanks.
I'm surprised to hear you say that?:confused: This board has been the MOST stable with respect to VDrop/Vdroop for me. The pencil mod worked well beyond my expectations. Before the mod I was experiencing a .08-.1 drop according to everest at load. 90% of the time my vCore doesn't fluctuate. When it does it is a +.02 under load.Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
The readings below are from my 24/7 gaming settings. The excel file is from the everest log representing about an hour of gaming. The other is from the OCCT stability test.
I'm sure the pencil mod will fix your situation.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ff66/vCore.jpg
Yeah DMMQuote:
Originally Posted by my87csx481
Did try the pencil mod, seems to have helped the droop, but not the drop.
Back to 450x8 @ 1.525 bios and 1.425 stable @ load.
Well what's the most stable bios to use with corsair dominator c4d ram?
I went out of town for a marathon this weekend and when I turned on the PC the LED's flashed for a second, went out and blam, CPU INIT. Tried all the old tricks of getting it to boot and nothing.
I figure I'll just shell out the $25 and have ASUS send me a new BIOS chip.
This is not intended to be a threadjack - but since everyone is here - I thought i would ask.
WHICH Memtest proggie is the one to use?
Memtest86 v3.3 from
http://www.memtest86.com/
or
Memtest86+ v1.7 from
http://www.memtest.org/
.......pleaes advise..............
or th
Most importatant voltage for stability of Quad on Striker is SB Voltage and HT Votage ... others i have on Auto always ... and my new Quad is on 3500MHz now ... higher FSB testing in progress ...
I use 3.3Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
What volts are safe for the SB and HT? I'm running at 3.6 now but my chip is capable of 4.0+. What volts are you using now at 3.5?Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Thanks!
Yes. Please post your settings. I'm having the same trouble as Khaotic....lucky if I can get 333.3 x 9....never mind 355.5 x 9. Small fft's error very shortly and BSOD if I web browse while priming.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Hey have you tried these yet? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=154Quote:
Originally Posted by my87csx481
They seem to be the sweet spot for the quad and this board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
OK - I fired up the 3.3 memtest and tested at both 1333/800 and 1066/800 (default) and both tests puked all over itself. So i went to the OCZ website and put in the suggeted settings for my motherboard. They included settings to adjust in the Advanced Settings portion - taking away auto and putting in (6/22/6/10/2/10/38/1.75ns) Not sure if this will reduce my memory bandwidth to a garden hose, but after that I can pass Memtest - at least a LOT futher and longer than before. I have NOT done an 8 hour grind yet.
BUT- trying to incorporate those settings mixed with settings in the thread for various clock speeds still leads to blue screens. I'll set up the OC and see if it passes memtest, but my first attempt at 1422/799 did fine with Memtest but not with windows.
So - - i'm at a crossroads. Get a new mobo such as an Intel 38 and run just ONE card in hopes of a higher overclock, or continue using 2x 8800GTX in SLI........
Yeah, it booted to windows. Probably could pass load test too....but I'm on air....tuniq 120....CPU went up over 70C measured with Coretemp .95. I got scared and stopped it and clocked it slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGuru
I've got a hopefully better cooler on the way. So we'll see:D
I think I'm gonna put my E6600 back on the Striker and get a p35 board for the quad.:shrug:
hate to say this, but OCZ ram has not been good to me, all the kits I have had over the last year I have returned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
My suggestion, grab 4GB of one of these. I use the Gskill, they are very, very good, not as much luck for me with the crucial, but I pushed the crucial harder than I have pushed the Gskill. They use the same D9's, but not sure about binning.
Price is high on them now I see, at least on the EGG
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=2GB+(2+x+1GB)
The crucial's are great priced though $59 bucks after MIR for 2GB can't complain, they are the same chips as the Gskill, assume the Gskill is better binned is all I can say.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565
RMA the OCZ and get what you can for them on ebay, try the settings I posted with the crucial/gskill and you should be fine. Hell you might even make a few bucks with the price of that crucial right now
Really? 70C @ load, thought the tuniq was a really good air cooler, never had one myself though.Quote:
Originally Posted by my87csx481
Hope the new cooler treats you better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
I have 4x 1GB OCZ Platinum Rev 2, @ 888MHz 5-5-5-15
Any tighter on the RAM timings I fail P95. Can't even do 5-5-5-12 .. boo urns!
My CPU is at 1333FSB though all stable.
Will try pushing more with higher voltages, but my heatpipes get really hot and don't think it can handle much more.
Yup, small fft load. WCG is about 5-10C cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
My E6600 only hit about 45C @ load with the same cooler/fan combination.
I dunno, maybe I'm using too much vcore. I don't seem to have as much vdroop as you. I had it at 1.469v (DMM) @ load (1.49xxx or 1.5 in BIOS) but, it errors out. If I up it even more, it errors faster.
Maybe my lapping job is no good (lapped cpu and heatsink). I don't think so though (I'm a machinist and I have my own surface plate that I use to lap parts). Maybe a bad mount job....but it idles at 35C average.
So, you're suggesting I run 4x 1GB sticks rather than 2x 2GB sticks?Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
There has been a lot of talk that 4x 1GB sticks is very hard for a chipset to deal with. My attention has been pulled in a lot of different directions lately, so It's getting harder for me to keep up with what's going on. I have seen the changelogs on the BIOS files that say that stability has been increased running 4x DIMMS, but the OCZ support threads say that latency issues in the chipset and certain ratios make running 4x 1GB sticks very difficult.
I have a set of CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 (PC2 9136) that i can try. Not sure of its module make-up. Is this respectable memory? I usually use it when ringing out an Intel chipset becuase of its high bus speed capability. Haven't really considered it for the 680i - even though it says EPP, the Striker doesn't pick up on EPP profile from what I can tell.
WCG is about 8-10c cooler for me than prime small fft's load.
My bad Khaotic, did not realize they were a 2x2GB pair. No actually 2 dimms are always better than 4 for overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
My stable settings ... for now (i need to test cpu on X38 mobo, i dont believe this is max clock - maybe only on Striker ...)
Unlinked
FSB - 1740
RAM - 1200 / 15-5-5-5/ 2.2V
CPU - 1.50V /3480MHz/
1.2HT - 1.75V
NB - Auto
SB - 1.70V
VTT - 1.50V
If i change any value (down and up too), system is unstable ...
If is FSB 1750 system is unstable ... at first i have to find real max clock on better board with X38 chipset ..., then my Striker test will continues ...
Hey, just outta' curiosity, what are your core temps during small fft's at the clock in your sig (Q6600 G0(cpu batch# L723A795 VID 1.2250) at 3712, 412x9)?Quote:
Originally Posted by NKD
Thanks.
This mobo is strange ... with Quad.
Now i am at 1800MHz FSB (450) and every values are on AUTO! Only RAM and CPU i set manualy ... and it is 4xPrime stable ...
CPU is only 450x7, because is not stable at 450x9 at any voltage, system freeze ... but here is proof it is not related to FSB or voltages, or FSB wall ... everything on Auto is pretty stable now ... but on 1740MHz i have to set higher voltages for everything manually ... but why is this Auto settings with higher FSB stable?
So if a guy were looking for 2x 2GB memory sticks to overclock with - what would you suggest?Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
No clue, actually, but heard good things about the mushkin, but isn't Gskill supposed to have a great kit coming out soon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
Dunno honestly, don't own them, seemed a bit pricey for DDR2, as I will be swapping for DDR3 with my next upgrade, I haven't really looked closely.
I run 4GB of the Gskill PHUHZ DDR2-800, have been pretty happy with them.
I've been reading this forum for a couple of days now, and been waiting for my registration to be activated so i could finely post a reply :) It's a great topic! There's not much to find out there for striker extreme with q6600 combo!
Anyway,
I've got:
Striker Extreme (1303 bios)
Q6600 G0
MSI 8800 GTX
4x1GB pc6400 ddr2 cl4 800mhz mem from dual ballistix
2x Samsung 500 GB hard disks
Scythe infinity with as5
Been having some issues with the striker since day one. After install, the bios hanged after 10 sec. Removed 2 memery sticks, flashed bios to 1305. Wich worked, but only on auto. Overclocking was a no go with the 1305. So downflashed to 1303 wich is recomended in a lot of forums.
Finally i'm having some succes with overclocking. Have got it running stable on 3.0 and loose mem timings of 5-5-5-15. Other crap is disabled and voltage are still all on auto. When i set to manual vcore and mem, i still have a pretty stable oc for 3.0 Ghz
But as soon is i try to clock to 3.2 for instance the oc is not stable anymore. The actual Vcore is about 0.1 lower as the bios setting. The drop from idle to load is about 0.03 i believe.
Can anyone help me out. I would really like my proc to run at 3.4 stable for 24/7 use. Some bios settings that can push me in the right direction would be very much apreciated.
Try 425 x 8 for 3.4Ghz, there are loads of FSB holes and 425 is surely a well suited quad FSB... the settings for further info are up in this thread, though each board/cpu can require different settings... Here are mine ( thx Linflas ) most important is to get 1.2 HT up high , wtih my quadcores that was at 1.35 -1.4 even at 450FSB
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Ratio: 8
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Vcore Voltage:1.55 for actual of 1.42
Memory Voltage:2.0
1.2v HT Voltage:1.70
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.6
CPU VTT Voltage:1.5
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto
Thanks for the quick reply and the settings! It just seems to me that 1.52 Vcore is a bit high, even for 3.4.... 3.0 runs fairly stable at a Vcore of 1.232 ilde and 1.200 load?
Well that's one of the reasons I said each CPU/mobo is different, I have 3 quads now ranging from 1.21, 1285 and 1.35 vid, the first one runs 3ghz at stock 1.2 (real volts under load) but I need to set 1.250 in bios to get there (that's on my P5K DLx), the Quad on my Striker is the 1.35 Vid one and that one needs real 1.42 volts to get to 3.4 stable even though it runs also on stock voltage at 3ghz... you have to see if you set it in the bios, reboot it , see the value in the bios or via everest or sortlikes (I wouldn't recommend CPU-Z as it behaves very erratic when reading out CPU voltages...) then start priming the PCU and see the Vcore voltage go down again, if it fails , bump it up or drop it ... I usually start a bit higher then back off slowly...
Sorry for the volts I just copied Linflas settings from first page :) and just adapted the NB, 1.2HT at which my rig works... edited previous post...
It won't post with the above settings.
When i set it linked and synced at 375 fsb (1500 qp) for a oc to 3.375 and all other settings on auto it does post, but hangs right after. Could this be the way for me to go? And what settings do you recommend? The same? Or does higher multiplier mean lower voltages?
did you drop multi to 8 ? and alter the other settings too, look at first page of this thread to see all the settings... till now 99.9% of the users have had succes with these... you still on 1301 or 1303 bios ? Have you tried with ram at 800mhz ?
Yes, tried it with 800 aswell, and multi was dropped to 8, bios version is 1303.
If any of the NB/SB/VTT, or 1.2HT voltages are TO HIGH at a given FSB, will it still work? Or is there any such thing as TO HIGH? I have an understanding of the basics of Overclocking. I've been overclocking in some form/fashion for a long time - but i have really ran out of patience with this board...... So basicly I'm looking for the readers digest version of what is working.
I built on the Striker to use a pair of 8800s in SLI to ensure i had the graphics power to run (almost) any game at the native resolution for my monitor - 2560x1600 - Dell 3007FPW.
Now it seems that nVidia has finally provided drivers that WORK with these cards on Vista. BUt now i'm at an empasse' Do i break up an SLI set to get a higher CPU overclock, or just suffer with a handicapped overclock in favor of an SLI setup? Surely there are folks here pondering this same quesiton. I guess what it would take is hours of benchmarking to see what gives the highest frame rate in real world games on each platform. If it weren't for this little thing called EVERYTHING ELSE in life, i would have that much time. And i use this machine far to much to tear it apart and go for that. So, until then, I just want a SOLID set of RAM to overclock with. Preferably 2x 2GB sticks......
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
I will be testing a set of gskill 2x2gb sticks on wednesday or thursday, so will have some results for you by the end of the week.
Excellent.
YOU ' Da' man.
You also got the PC8000 4 gig kit Linflas ?, I hope my Striker returns from RMA this week and pray it's the promised one with a soldered bios chip ( so a later rev then the board I had) on the P5K Dlx they work fab, Maximus SE on the way tooooooooooooooo :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
Yup, same kit, should have it in my hands on wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I saw a post about Striker II bios on the Asus FTP (780i then )
Do you know when the NDA expires on the 780i chipset? Asus traditionally will not make an official announcement about a new product until all NDA conditions have been met.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
in the other section there's mention of an Asus Striker II 0103 bios, so a slip of one of the employees
Still having CPU INIT issues on mine, thinking of purchasing new memory and giving it a go.
Any experiences with memory that works flawlessly with this? Looking for ddr2 800
2 gig Gskill 6400HZ 4-4-4-12, 2 gig Gskill PC6400PK 4-4-3-5, 4 gig Gskill PC8000 5-5-5-15, 2 gig Gskill PC8000 4-4-4-5, 2 gig OCZ SLI PC8500 5-5-5-15 and 4 gig Mushkin PC6400 5-5-5-15 went fine on my board... no troubles at those speeds and configurations...
Thanks, that 4gb gskill pc8000 is what I'll get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
they run pretty smooth, I haven't OC them so kept them at 1000mhz 5-5-5-15 Command Rate 2T at 2.0 volts, run very fine with WinXP 64... and they aren't that darn expensive either ( about 210 euro's in Europe )
hey guys i'm a new comer to the stiker had it for a month now up and running, finally got the 1303 bios yesterday and flash from the 1305 and now i can overclock, im now running a 1333fsbx9 for a 3ghz on my stock cooler which is good never thought it would have post and run stable, i now have to run through the voltage and see it i can drop it to reduce heat cause right now its at stock voltage. soon to get water cooling then going to try to pump the bad boy up. thanks for the 1303bios guys.
system: striker extreme, Q6600 G0@3ghz, 2gb dominator@1066, 8800gts 320 super overclock, 22' acer,
oh does the pencil mod works fawless with the boards i was looking at some post on it but i am for less of a better word afraid to mess with the circuits on the board any insite.
Did you get your board back? If so, what did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I am asking because I have to RMA mine. 100% my fault. Explained the situation to the good folks at the RMA department and they said they would take care of it anyway. Gotta love that! Just hate taking everything apart.
So I got the 2x2GB kit of Gskill, so far, I got what I paid for. This memory does not overclock well, as was stated in previous reviews on this site, I was however able to get the latencies to 4-5-4-12 @ 1000mhz on 2.25V. I am unwilling to leave it there though, I crunch, so my rig is 24/7 100% cpu load.
I have lost alot of D9's at that voltage crunching, even though these are not micron ic's, I am unwilling to push voltage. I am able to run 5-5-5-12 @ 1000mhz on 1.85V in the bios, so like 1.9 or so in reality. All the 680i's I have had overvolt the ram.
Having 2 dimms has not helped the crippled bios's we have at all for overclocking the cpu, I am where I have been for crunching 450x8. So overall, I am happy with the kit, I am happy to not have D9's in my rig, as I hope these will last longer than 3 months.
Good morning everyone. Okay I have read this thread from beginning to end and some great information. I have alot of questions but like to give everyone my setup.
CPU: Intel Q6600
Memory: Mushkin DDR2 1066
Motherboard: Asus Striker Extreme with Bios 1303
Video Card: 2x XFX 8800GTS 640Megs in SLI
Hard Drives: 4x Seagate Barracuda in Raid 0
DVD Drives: 2x Pioneer DVDRW Disk
MultiMedia: 62 in 1 Media Card reader
Power Supply: ThermalTake 700 Watt Pure Power 4 Rails.
The cpu is cooled by thermaltake big water cooling.
Okay I was only able to hit 1475 QDR on the CPU and all the settings I used linflas magic settings. I was not booting in 1700 and I found it stable at 1475. I have the multi set as 9 and LDT at 5. The voltage I backed off to 1.55 Volts for CPU since it ran stable. Anyone suggest reasons not able to hit 1700 and what temps are you guys getting at that FSB.
Did you keep the ram in sync with the FSB so 425FSB (1700) ram at 850 then or did you force to get 1066Mhz ? if so that doesn't work with me I need to keep it in line same for 450FSB needs 900 ram speed not 1000 nor 1066, it's due to a limitation of the 680i chipset bundled with a quad I think...with a dual core CPU I can fool around with the ramspeed as much as I want...
On a german forum found that 412 FSB also works so 1648FSB (also with 9 multi to get 3.7ghz), 1700 should be doable ( have you tried also with 8 multi to get 3.4ghz instead of keeping it locked at 9 multi) as many many users (on older boards too) have found this to be perfectly stable, 450FSB though is hit and miss...
Alright new issue.
CPU INIT is now flashing.
Boot sequence, cleared CMOS fully (IE left out overnight) put ram in slot 4, connected both VGA cards, connected 1 sata HD, 1 ide optical, went to boot PC and CPU INIT.
Turned off, turned back on, and now when I hit power CPU INIT is flashing?
Anyone seen this before or know what it means?
There is a thread dedicated to this issue on the Asus Striker Forums here.
Here is a snipet...
Quote:
Originally Posted by JefFX
Actually that's exactly the info I got to get out of CPU INIT the first time ;)
However before the LCD poster stayed completely solid. This time as soon as I hit power the LCD poster starts blinking (I think I poorly worded it the first time), which is behavior I've never seen before out of the dozens of CPU INIT issues I've had to deal with.
I went through and reseated everything, which was a PITA with all the water blocks.
Given that it's blinking, I'm wondering if the board is actually dead, or of it's some other obscure issue.
If the board is dead I could spring for another (don't want to waste these blocks) and pray for a newer revision.
When you said "...everything" it is probably safe to assume you removed and replaced the cpu as well? Should that not work...I'm not sure I can help. According to the thread I linked to many have overcome the cpu init problem.
I would suggest the method where it recommends that you leave the battery out for 12+ hours.
Hopefully that will help. I feel your pain as it sucks when hardware doesn't perform as expected.
Thanks for the help don't get me wrong. But that's the method I used to get the CPU INIT bug ay back long ago when I first got the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
What's driving me bonkers is the flashing screen, which again I've never seen before.
I've beat this bug on my board many times, and on several friends build, but never hit that.
Might just be worth it to cut the losses and wait for 780i
Quote:
Originally Posted by crash5s
I finally gave up with the FSB holes ,High heat output ,and high power consumption that is the 680i .
I went back to running a single 8800gtx and have since ditched my SLI setup,I have not looked back ,to be honest I am getting much higher OCs with my new board and smoother gameplay In World in conflict (DX10 @2560-1600 Res ,everything on max)than I got with SLI,I am thru with Nvidia.
Btw I ended up buying a GA-X38-DQ6 and my B3 stepping q6600 is loving me for it ,all the striker did was cause me grief,it was all good untill the Australian Warmer weather hit ,680i do not like Australian weather.
^^^^lol too funy :D
Leeghoofd thanks for the reply. I have left the ram at 850 and also tried to force it to 1066. I had another issue getting 4 sticks to run on windows vista 64 and BSOD. Of course Microsoft had a patch for this and that is all taken care of. For some reason on Bios 1303 I am stuck at 1500 on the CPU. Bios 1305 I can not even boot on that. I have the voltage at 1.65 and all the other voltages recommended in the beginning of this thread. I have cut back on the CPU voltage on the 1500 (375) that I have on the cpu. I also tried your suggestions and still no go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Do those settings work with 2 gigs ? 412FSB also no boot ? can you post the settings you use using this template :
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio:
FSB (QDR), Mhz: (means FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz:
MEM (DDR), Mhz: (means mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz:
Vcore Voltage:
Memory Voltage:
1.2v HT Voltage:
NB Core Voltage:
SB Core Voltage:
CPU VTT Voltage:
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage:
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage:
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage:
tCL (CAS Latency):
tRCD:
tRP:
tRAS:
Command Per Clock (CMD): clock
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 350
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1400
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Vcore Voltage:1.625 for actual of 1.52
Memory Voltage:2.05
1.2v HT Voltage:1.75
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.7
CPU VTT Voltage:1.5
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto
tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 5
tRAS:15
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 101
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 201
Apparently the fsb holes are caused by the GTL voltage???!!! the link below has a fix, bit tricky though! Has anyone managed to run 400fsb on a new striker??
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/A1_R...ld/4756-2.html
I currently have a MSI P6N Platinum with a 650i chipset.
With this board, there are also FSB holes :(
Luckily I found the "sweetspot" @ FSB 1400, making my Q6600 B3 run at 3.15Ghz :)
Read my findings here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear
ANYWAY, I bought a Asus Striker Extreme!
I will receive this board next week.
It will replace my P6N (going into another PC).
I hope I will get a higher overclock of my Q6600 B3 with the Striker Extreme (hoping to run @ 3.6Ghz).
I'm going to use Liquid Cooling.
My Question is:
Does the Striker Extreme NB, SB and Mosfets really needs liquid cooling? Or is the stock cooling enough?
Thnq guys in advance.
NB requires at least active cooling if possible, if you go liquid cool only the NB and SB, I can recommend the EK waterblocks they are fab and work very very well, if you want to do it mad you can go to cool the mosfets too but that would require an extra loop if you include CPU and GPU too in it...
With the Striker 412 , 417, 425 are known to work the first two with 9 multi, the latter I only tried with 8 multi ( giving 3.4ghz ) some have reached 450FSB but my board never got there...( needed more CPU VTT to get stable then the 1.55 the board gave)
A user on a German ( hardwareluxx.de) forumsite got 412( x9 ) with all voltages on auto (bios 1303 plz do not use 1305) just CPU and ram set manually... if you overclock the quad keep the ram in sync, meaning if you go 425 FSB set ram at 850, so not try to force eg 1066 as it will make the OC unstable...
I mainly used Linflas magical settings which worked pretty well (I just set 1.2HT slightly lower and SB at 1.55 as I don't use SLI ) and the board runs stable at 3.4ghz with my GO Q6600... at the moment it's in the box as I repleaced it by the Maximus formula for testing....
Here's my board fixed with the EK set :
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Hardware...%20002.jpg
@ Leeghoofd.
Thnx for the info!
Anyway:
I thought it would be better to start my own topic, to prevent off-topic posts.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...90#post2537390
hehe looks like my striker board before it died, I went with the clear top EK option though.
Waiting on a new CPU block before I take another nforce plunge
i was all pumped for the Striker at the start of the thread, after all the problems thinking maybe this board could turn out the best.
now @ the back end of the thread it looks plagued by the same problems from the beginning and still dying left right and centre.
:shrug: :down:
Well, I had the same issue too, wondering about that.
But I still "believe" in the Striker ;)
I work at a computershop and they've selled a LOT of Strikers.
And very little came back for RMA.
The people here reporting that their Striker died, are just a small amount of the total Striker users who's Striker are just working fine.
I'd imagine most return them directly to ASUS, which is a mixed bag since their tech support sucks and RMA can be hit or miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma2000
Due to the fact that I dropped 160 USD into water blocks for this board I'd debate getting another one, and cross my fingers that it's the newer version.
Searching for RAM that isn't going to make the CPU INIT issue worse while I'm at it.
I'm searching for RAM too! :)
I think I'm going for the Crucial Ballistix, but I'm not out yet which I should choose:
2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 1024MB CL4 BL12864AA804
or
2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8500 1024MB CL5 BL12864AA1065
Which of the 2 will give me better performance / overclock?
Because the 1st is 800Mhz, but 4-4-4-12
The second is 1000Mhz, but 5-5-5-15
Anyone any idea which one is better?
i4Memory is a great place to look for additional information regarding the Ballistix memory. Eva has a LOT of info regarding Crucial memory on his site. As a backup pair I have the Ballistix Tracers PC8500 and I like em'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma2000
The PC8500 versions do 800mhz too at 4-4-4-12 mate , but some PC6400 can do 1066Mhz at 5-5-5-15 (I know many OC their ram but many fail also over time...) I would go with the PC8500 version as it gives you slightly more room to run the FSB in sync with the ram without doing really any OC ( so not taking any risk) on the ram...
I can confirm that timings have almost no effect on real world performance, I selled out some serious cash for the Gskill PC8000 with 4-4-4-5 timings, benchmarks and co run barely faster than the previous much cheaper OCZ 5-5-5-15 kit...
I'm running mine at 1000 5-5-5-15. I thought 1066 5-5-5-15 was a given since the modules EPP profiles are basically 800 @ CL4 and 1000 @ CL5. Basically both modules should be the same, except flashed at different speeds, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
That might be true for the Ballistix but I know many PC6400 dimms that don't do 1000 or 1066Mhz not even with cl 6 timings...and voltages over 2.3 volts. I think the 1066mhz modules are slightly better binned ones...
But low latency timings are pretty useless on Intel CPU's, ofcourse every mhz/latency helps but sometimes not worth the cash...
I stick that he best gets the PC8500 dimms if he wants to make sure they will run at 1066mhz 24/7...
Or you can run striker with crazy vdimm volts for 600mhz 5-3-3-5 :D
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...3s907ms_tn.png
Don't get these kids all wound up sir George you are a nauty man !!! Here comes a new thread soon with topic "HELP my Striker ate my ram !!!"
Those the titanium alphas mate ?
I hope you get some good runs with ya quad !!!
Yeah OCZ Titanium Alpha VX2.. average 4-4-4-x on 975/965/P35 at 565-586mhz 4-4-4-x CAS5 no help but on 680i striker excels!
Hi guys,
I juste want to give you my Striker extrem feedbacks :
Q6600 b3
Gei PC2 8500 @ 1100 mhz 5-5-5-15-1t 2.4V
Striker extrem version 1.00g bios 1303
650 W PSU
I know striker encoured issue with quad ( fsb hole, sound probleme..) so i get resigned with it but now when i see all your screen i wonder why does my striker didn't even boot @ 1500 fsb with those settings :
wahtever i try doesn't boot any idear ?Quote:
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1200
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1000
Vcore Voltage: auto
Memory Voltage: 2.40v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.42v
NB Core Voltage: 1.65v
SB Core Voltage: 1.55v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.45v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO
tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 5
tRAS: 15
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: auto
tRC: auto
tWR: auto
tWTR: auto
tREF: AUTO
tRD: auto
tRFC: auto
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 101
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 201
kinda troubled so you set 1600 FS Bin bios though the board boots at 1425 ? Same weird thing for the ram ...
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 425
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850 ( keep in sync with FSB plz )
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Vcore Voltage: 1.45 or higher to try , depends on CPU
Memory Voltage: 2.40v Very very high , board overvolts you will kill ya ram !! Try 2.2 or max 2.3 with active cooling plz !!
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.65
NB Core Voltage: 1.50v
SB Core Voltage: 1.55v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.45v
Try this with CPU Multi 8 plz for 3.4 ghz
hi again ,
I've tried those settings and it simply doesn't want to post :shakes:. " DET IDE" wrtting on the back lcd :/ Don't know what happens on my striker ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLeO
that is a FSB hole, try 1712 or 1720 try and get out of the hole
You mean just put higher FSB and don't touch Volts ?
Do you ussually have those holes on Striker?
THX for ya help :)
You may have to adjust your cpu voltage as this is a higher clock, or you can just test for FSB holes with x6 multi at lower volts, when you find one that boots OK, then go ahead and change your multi and your vcore and see what you can get stable.
I posted a number of bios settings in this thread that are stable.
I've tried 1712 and 1720 and still DET IDE i'm gonna become crazy with tihs boards ...
This max i can get is 1400*9 and whatever multi, still 1400 :shakes:
Are you sure that i'll can " go out" this FSB hole ? That's not sure ?
are you using the 1301 bios? Do not use 1305 it does not work with quad core, use 1301