F6G? Not good at all. you will find the turbo does not stay engaged after boot up. Went back back to F6C or and F4J. For me these are some of the best of all the Bios releases for the Extreme! Just my 2 cents.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
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F6G? Not good at all. you will find the turbo does not stay engaged after boot up. Went back back to F6C or and F4J. For me these are some of the best of all the Bios releases for the Extreme! Just my 2 cents.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
meh QPI Volt is still buged -> more then 1.3V no coldboot.... back to F4j
quickie suicide run -
4.62 ht off
2112 mhz memory
cpuv 1.55v
subambient coolant - under the Boreas
I am using F6a on the UD5 and no such problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
F6a has no such problems, its F6c or higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aberration
anyone has the F6h for the extreme already?
Its already listed on JZelectronic, but no dl. :(
I would stick to looking at these two places but thats just me.:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
http://forums.tweaktown.com/276790-post199.html
Well I can be added to the team now! I just splurged on the UD5, Corsair Dom's 3x2 1600, and 2 640gb WD Cavair Blacks to finally be able to slam this thing together on air till some more water components get in stock!
btw new bios can be downloaded now.
Finding F6C stable and good, tried a few and with this all is working, ET6 if i need it will work etc.
found my stable 24/7 setting now that i have my block mounted.
vcore will get 1.36 while loaded.
vtt 1.38
dimm 1.70 with CL7
Turbo setting
http://hem.bredband.net/infan/i7/i74200.jpg
Any feedback on bios F5e for the UD5 - It is tedious trying to keep track of all these bios releases.
Currently trying F6a - but no S3 support and worse still need much higher v core for same Oc.
Can anyone remind me of best previous bios for Oclock and keeping Vcore down or is F5e bios OK?????
any help / oppinoin welcome.
Mark
Tonight I had strange issue with memory in A channel. It stopped working totaly. :(
If there is only 1 module in ch. A (DDR3_1 by manual, white slot closer to CPU), I have B8 or B9 codes on debug led and no boot. If there are more modules, they all worked, but ch. A module don't. I can see ch. A module SPD by CPU-Z, Everest, MemSet, etc. CPU-Z shows Dual Channel mode.
WTF is that? Is that MB or CPU problem? It's ~3000 km distance from my house to store where I bought MB and CPU, and it will take a lot of time to return this buggy hardware in it. :(
stasio, where can I find full debug codes list for EX58-Extreme? Most of visible codes are mised in manual.
You giving him BIOS for Extreme and he ask for UD5:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRush
I will try to found full debug codes,btw, you can try here
Damn it! You are right. Sorry, tipes, my fault. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
anyone able to overclock the PCI-E Frequency???
have been running 3.8ghz w/ HT Off(since it slows games by 1-5%: http://vr-zone.com/articles/does-cor....html?doc=6160)
Specs:
Core I7 920
Gigabyte X58 UD5
Coolermaster V8
OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB DDR3 12800 ~ 1600
3.6 GHZ STABLE:
Multiplier/BCLK: 200x18 -> 3.6ghz (Temps around 60-66 at load)
Vcore:1.275
QPI/VTT: 1.240v
IOH Core:Auto
Dram: 1.66v
QPI Link Speed: X36
Uncore: 16X
Mem Multiplier: 8X
Mem SPD ratio: 2:8 @1600mhz
Timings: 8, 8, 8, 24
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
Multi Thread: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt C1E: Disabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support: Disabled
CPU EIST Function: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Turbo Boost: Disabled
3.8 GHZ STABLE:
Multiplier/BCLK: 200x19 -> 3.8ghz (Temps around 65-70 at load)
Vcore:1.3
QPI/VTT: 1.240v
IOH Core:Auto
Dram: 1.66v
QPI Link Speed: X36
Uncore: 16X
Mem Multiplier: 8X
Mem SPD ratio: 2:8 @1600mhz
Timings: 8, 8, 8, 24
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
Multi Thread: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt C1E: Disabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support: Disabled
CPU EIST Function: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Turbo Boost: Disabled
When i try going for 4.0ghz its always unstable, always get BSOD
Multiplier/BCLK: 200x20
Vcore: 1.35
QPI/VTT: 1.240v also tried 1.36
IOH Core:Auto
Dram: 1.66v
QPI Link Speed: X36
Uncore: 16X
Mem Multiplier: 8X
Mem SPD ratio: 2:8 @1600mhz
Timings: 8, 8, 8, 24
i really wonder why people buy Ci7 and then diable HT... thats the main reason i bought Ci7... more threads to do more works... I could get out more Mhz cheaper from C2D Quad and better FPS in games (which most of the guys here do) the with Ci7.
same reason people buy quads over duals perhaps ;) Maybe he upgraded from a very dated machine? I wouldnt assume before I knew the whole story mate.
Hey we all make mistakes - we are human afterall Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRush
Stasio - Thanks for the suggested bios to try - have tried F5G and F5, no dice, but I will give the others a go.
Thanks
Mark
Yes, i had a Pentium 4 computer xD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
I had a Pentium 4 computer, so its like a really really big upgrade!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
I had to choose going Quad Core or Core i7(Latest Tech) ? So why not
Money, plain and simple. You can get similar/better performance with a C2D for less money then with a Ci7, especial when your NOT using HT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spinzaku
Finnally got the 4.0Ghz stable with decent temps, 78C on load with the noctua cooler. My settings are 19x211. I see if i go water this summer or get a Ci7 D0.
I'm on F5G now tried some of the F6 ones and were a no go for me. Sticking to F5G for now. Teaktown forums has all of themQuote:
Originally Posted by tipes
btw. QPI Bug still there with 12gb ram in F6h... (i dont think they will fix that -_- ).
Can you give me your unbiased opinion on which one to get if you were making a purchase today? :shrug:
Thanks in advance! :up:
someone help me overclock with 12gb's of ram, my friends system wont pass 140bclk with 12gb of ram and a 940 cpu.
Ouch. How far can he get with 6GB?
OK GAR,
TRY this is for 180 BCLK and 1440Mhz DDR3, use any cpu clock ratio you like.
You can use the template to show us your memory timings that work at 140 BLCK so we can go from there
Also what ram is it and what rating?
I am assuming they are 1600Mhz rated, so going for 1440Mhz for 12GB sounds more realistic.
Advanced CPU Features
CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech [Disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled [All]
CPU Multi Threading [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT [Disabled]
QPI Link Speed [Manual]
Uncore & QPI Features
QPI Link Speed [36]
Uncore Frequency [16] <---Might need to go x17
Isonchronous Frequency [Enabled]
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) [180]
Advanced Clock Control
standard clock control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) [180]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
advanced clock control
CPU Clock Drive [ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive [ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew [ 0ps] <--- Might need 150-200ps for both together
IOH Clock Skew [ 0ps] <--- Might need 150-200ps for both together
Performance Enhance [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Manual]
Advanced DRAM Features
Performance Enhance [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Manual]
Channel A/B/C
Channel A/B/C Timing Settings
##Channel A/B/C Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time 8 [8]
tRCD 8 [8]
tRP 8 [8]
tRAS 24 [24]
##Channel A/B/C Advanced Timing Control##
tRC 42 [42] --> looser timings to try [47]
tRRD 6 [6] --> looser timings to try [7]
tWTR 6 [6] --> looser timings to try [7]
tWR 12 [12] --> looser timings to try [14]
tRFC 92 [92] --> looser timings to try [104]
tRTP 6 [6] --> looser timings to try [7]
tFAW 24 [24] --> looser timings to try [28]
Command Rate (CMD) 1 [1]
##Channel A/B/C Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency 58 [AUTO] <--- Might need to manually put in for channels A,B,C : 56, 58, 60 respectively
Channel A/B/C Turnaround Settings
##Channel A/B/C Writes Followed By Reads##
Different DIMMs 6 [6] --> looser timings to try [5]
Different Ranks 6 [6] --> looser timings to try [5]
On The Same Rank 8 [8] --> looser timings to try [9]
##Channel A/B/C Reads Followed By Writes##
Different DIMMs 9 [9] --> looser timings to try [10]
Different Ranks 9 [9] --> looser timings to try [10]
On The Same Rank 9 [9] --> looser timings to try [10]
##Channel A/B/C Reads Followed By Reads##
Different DIMMs 6 [6]
Different Ranks 5 [5]
On The Same Rank 1 [1]
##Channel A/B/C Writes Followed By Writes##
Different DIMMs 6 [6]
Different Ranks 6 [6]
On The Same Rank 1 [1]
Advanced Voltage Control
Load Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore 1.29375v [1.3625]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v [1.36] <--- Might need 1.40v
CPU PLL 1.800v [AUTO]
MCH
PCIE 1.500v [AUTO]
QPI PLL 1.100v [1.140]
IOH Core 1.100v [1.20]
ICH I/O 1.500v [1.58]
ICH Core 1.1v [1.140]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v [1.66] <--- This could be the culprit right here, might need more juice, with Qpi/Vtt of >1.35v, theoretically can go to vDIMM 1.85v (BE CAREFUL)
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO] <--- Might need half of DRAM Voltage ie. ~0.833v for all of these
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
^
giving subtimings is worthless, cause rams form different manufacturers have different subtimings.
He's giving a specific user settings to try for 12gb ....I can't see how that is worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Thanks for the input guys, i will tell him to try those out, the memory is all the same, patriot viper 1600 c9
what letter do you think they will get up to before F6 arrives for extreme , cant be far away
Cheers - I have gone back to F5G and all is well - think I will stick to this one until final or a better tested option comes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hlonipha
Mark
If the ram is C9, your friend should try the looser advanced timing controlsQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
47-7-7-14-104-7-28 with 9-9-9-28 standard timing controls. The turnaround settings should be whatever your ram sets automatically when you use 133 BCLK @ 1600Mhz.
But the main area to adjust outside of memory timings for 12GB to work is the voltage settings for the MCH and the DRAM volts/subvolts.
Changing the DRAM subvolts should be your last option if all else fails.
Also the clock skews of 150-200ps had some positive results for me for certain overclocks I tried. One of my cores would be stuck at 100% usage trying to load gui.exe(ET6) during windows logon. Changing the skews solved this.
For games maybe, but not video editing. Ci7 is far superior when video editing/encoding - especially on HD content. its not ALWAYS about FPS ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimoneX
Do you have some pictures of it to make it more clear?
What about dropping "Turbo Performance" mode down to Standard? This has given me much more stability pushing 3gb to their max, but it may translate over to large capacity/lower clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades
hey guys, dont rip the Caps off next to the CPU. The board wont work then ;)
Bobbylite = massive nutsack. Next time, please don't foot stomp that kneaded rubber into the cap section lol.
Subtimings vary with different Sticks, if you have OCZ sticks subtimings look different from Corasair or Geil sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Thats why i have said they are "worthless".
GAR if overclock still fails, the following setting could solve it.
##Channel A/B/C Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency 58 [AUTO] manually put in for channels A,B,C : 62, 64, 66 respectively (very important setting, if too low will not boot)
I overlooked this, when having problems overclocking system, this should be one of the first things one does. Thanks for pointing that out honourable ReverendMaynard ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Also nothing helps more than extra qpi/vtt.
Hornet may well be right about the timings being useless, but maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
That's why I would write down and post what my ram timings are at 1600Mhz using 133 bclk.
Can you do 1600Mhz @ 133 BCLK with 12GB?
I was just thinking if you can't go past 140 bclk and your running 12GB at 1400Mhz
then you can't hit 144 bclk and do 1440Mhz, right???
So you are probably better off trying 175 bclk NOT 180 bclk.
Why? 180 @ 8x gives you 1440Mhz which you haven't achieved yet with 12Gb's
175 @ 8x gives you 1400Mhz which you know you can do.
If still no go, then you should try 166 BCLK with an 8x mem multi and uncore 16x for 1333Mhz to see if that works.
Make sure you manually change all the timings, but keep them at the 1600Mhz C9 timings for now.
Don't worry about losing Mhz you can still tighten timings to get close to comparable performance, especially with higher BLCK.
I just set XMP and Standard and the timing was auto set by the board to 10/10/10/24. VoltsVTT 1.34, Memory 1.64. Runs at 1680 (BCLK 210).:up:
Dont forget Ci7 has tri-channel + IMC even with 1200mhz DDR3 it has more bandwidth and lower latency then a C2D with 2000mhz DDR3. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Memory bandwidth is the least problem for desktop apps.
I fully understand that, but GAR is a smart dude and he would have easily picked up on the gist of what to loosen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Ud5 F5
I like EIST, works nice. But lowering of the vcore to 1.040V stops if I raise the blck higher than 139. Also setting Vcore manually seems to stop lowering vcore as well. This sucks, can there be a workaround for this, must be a bios thing?
Well time for another handoff, had problems with 1866 XMP even with manual timings needed a bit too much qpi/vtt so going with 1600Mhz.
Quick burn in 24 minute run of prime, no turbo or HT, temps go from 50-80 and stabilise after about 5 minutes, noctua NH-U12P push pull.
My North Bridge(MCH) temp shows 65 degrees under load :shocked:, idles ~60, the bios is about 5 degrees lower. Is this a worry? Put a fan on it?
The machine is pretty responsive, the boot time from power on is pretty slow with the vista loading bar doing about 30 passes, but the vista logon time is less than 10 seconds.
Ahhh well back to my trusty X38-DQ6. :up:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...-4009-1688.gif
Hi there everybody just got my new system runing, with the UD5 and the gskill 1600 so now just looking for the best bios around and some OC help, this is a hole new thing here, nothing campered to the last system i had(E8400/p5q deluxe)..
:)
Anybody? :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades
I have to ask (respectfully) what's up with the QPI/VTT being set higher than the vcore? At that same speed I run 1.4v vcore and 1.335v QPI/VTT. My personal rule of thumb with these 920's is keep those voltages high on the vcore side and the QPI/VTT around .05v or more lower than the vcore. That helps allot with heat, and from my experience as will a few other mates, that theory works out pretty well on top end frequencies (4.4-4.7ghz). I know cpu's vary allot, but if you gave yourself more time with that setup you'd have it rippin'.
anybody wanna give a guy some help here? :) just got this system and wanted to know where i can go with this :)
You're not going to get much of a hand out Godmyster. Do what most of do, read up, make an attempt and post your results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
Godmyster, what kind of help do you need? Do you have any problems with your rig? Or you want quick (or complete) OCing guide? Please ask more detailed questions, not like "I want to know all about UD5, what I didn't know yet. Wanna anyone help me?". :)
You can easily go for 3.8-4.2 Ghz on good air, up to 4.66 (222 QPI) on water, and even more on extreme cooling.
I am on Extreme, so can't advice you what BIOS is better. Try last final F5 and if you wouldn't like it, try read this topic from the beginning. :)
---
ReverendMaynard, QPI/Vtt higher then Vcore is needed for working combination of low CPU clock and high Memory multiplier, due to need of 2xMem Uncore multiplier. For example, in my 24/7 profile (193x21, Mem 10x, Uncore 20x) i need 1.3750 Vcore and 1.495 QPI/Vtt for 12h Prime stability.
as u can see i have this new rig, and ive seen the bios and looks completly diferente to what i was used too... so wanted some help on the Ocing :)
I understand that Code, but what kind of realworld benefits do you get from raising the QPI/VTT almost .2v over intels 1.35v spec without having the cpu frequency to drive it home?Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRush
Makes little sense to run it that way from a performance aspect so explain why you need to run like that.
Here are my 24/7 game settings (GRID gets a little micro stutter with HT on) 18x uncore 8x memory.
http://clubnboc.com/forum/index.php?...ach=1675;image
Also, the all of the bios's for the Gigabyte X58 line are identical.
ReverendMaynard, I am software developer, and my system is used for compilation and data processing. I did some benches with VS 2008, GCC 4 compilers and my DP software, and realised that memory frequency is much better then CPU frequency for it. So I found maximum stable memory freq (~970 Mhz 7-7-7-20-1T) and set up my 24/7 profile for it. If I can save only 1 or 2 seconds from every compile->link->run sequence, then I can save about 2 hours of a week. It is my realword benefit. :)
That's exactly the answer I was looking for Code, thanks for explaining it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRush
anyone willing to help me with me Ocing on my new system?
Here's what I didQuote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
set QPi/vtt to 1.35v
set Vcore to 1.40
Qpi to 36x
memory multiplier to 8x
uncore x17 (2xmem mult + 1)
performance enhance std
memory timings as per manufacturers spec (I have OCZ 1600MHz hence 8,8,8,24 at 1.64v)
leave turbo and hyperthreading enabled
take bclk up in 5Mhz increments from 170. I stopped at 190, happy with 21x190
Stable at 100% CPU load for 8 hours although temps get up to mid 80s.
i have started trying to see how far I can get Vcore back down and dropped Bclk to 180 to try and reduce temps under full load
So does bios F5g on the UD5 fix the phantom post issues? or is it only F5 final and beyond? Sometimes my raid card doesn't initialize right during the second power on and it's annoying to have to go into the bios and reorder the disk priority again after I get it to initialize correctly.. Anyone else with an Areca card and the double post notice that? hrm.. well.. I am looking to get on a bios that doesn't do that soon..
Hi Rev,Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Sorry the F5G does not fix double start issue at least not for me. Have yet to find bios that does while oc.
Btw is the Areca card worth having for Raid rather than on board - much better performance???? May be interested in getting an areca myself.
Mark
The XMP profiles of 1600Mhz and 1866Mhz for the OCZ PC#-12800 DDR3-1600MHz triple channel ram has 1.4 QPI/VTT as standard. Plus I am running the 1600Mhz XMP profile at 1688Mhz same timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Looks like I have another week or two to play with this rig, so I may mount a couple of fans to cool down the mobo.
I got straight onto F6C after building UD5 on F3 and haven't looked back.Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
No double post, ET6 works in vista x64, 211 BCLK no problem.
Just make sure you flash your bios with default settings running, ie. No overclocked settings before you flash.
That's high QPI/VTT for 1600mhz memory man. Is it the CAS7 stuff? Glad I got these Pi's for cheap, they are ultra flexible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Hi - ok, thanks.. from the looks of things I might give F6c a go (thanks Alcibiades for your input on that)...Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
as for the Areca card... it's a decent card, great vista64 driver support, 256mb ddr2 (so would be great for SSD raid) but my two raptor-x's are only SATA1 so I am not pushing the card very hard I think... I get 160mb/s sustained reads... as a pci-e 1x the best BW I will ever get out of it is 250mb/s or so.. I kind of wonder how well it would do with a pair of fast SATA2 drives on it.. anyways, it's a decent card but not sure how much better it would be than the intel ICH10R.. I like having my OS on an external raid card so I can transplant the system onto a new board quickly if I need to.. it's saved me several times in the past so I just have been in the habit of doing that. :)
whats the best bios around for the UD5?
Anyone else have noise problems with their sound card when the Gigabyte (Jmicron) IDE and SATA are enabled? I just flashed over to f6c to give it a try and when I reconfigured my bios settings I forgot to disable it. The dreaded static/chugging rhythm was back on my X-fi card. I've experienced it with this card before, its a static popping that maintains a certain rhythm, about the same rhythm as a car or motorcycle engine at high idle that is missing on one cylinder. I almost ditched this card for the PCI-E titanium version a while back but put it back on the shelf, Creative has done a lot more to earn my scorn than to earn my hardware dollars in recent years. However, the Auzentech card looks promising.
Did you remember to turn off the on-board sound and any other features you don't need? If nothing works on F6c, you can always just flash back to a different BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyBum
Yep, actually all I needed to do was disable the extra IDE/Sata in the bios and the noise was gone. There must have been some IRQ sharing going on, and the X-fi is a spoiled brat, it doesn't play nice with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Thanks for the info on the Areca card - might give it a try as you pointed out it also gives you extra flexibility by being able to transplant to another board quickly.
Mark
Hi all,
As title really - any feedback on bios F6E for UD5 board? Is it any good ie
no problem with flashing, and how are voltage requirements on this bios against the others. I tried F6A and found I needed higher voltage for same overclock and S3 resume still no dice - so any news on F6E - is it worth trying? Quick flash works ok or not?
Mark
Qflash has been corrected in all BIOS's posted after 3/11/09 for the X58 series
Just flashed to F6h seems ok so far ,prime stable at 4.0gig came from f5 and q flash worked great
Playing with the board for a week now and rather impressed. Only SS for now because of GOOC deadline. Mem controller on this cpu isnt great, next week tests on air with i7 920. For now under mach II:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...33X/32M729.jpg
anyone know any other way to update the bios? my @bios is telling me to deactivate Dynamic Energy Saver but then says Terminate Dynamic Energy Saver Failed
Well ReverendMaynard I took your advice and tried to find a good setting with a lower QPI/VTT.
Dropped QPI/VTT from 1.4 to 1.36, All MCH settings back to auto and NB temp drops 5 degrees. CPU from 4Ghz to 3.8, memory performance still at 1688Mhz. CPU load temp after 30 minutes ~70-72 degrees.
Here it is in glorious windows 7 16 colours ;)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...i7-X58-UD5.gif
Here is a Qflash Guide I wrote up for Gigabyte User's >>Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/
So you know, to get rid of that message you may need to uninstall DES (Dynamic Energy Saver) and then reboot. Then install the latest Version if you plan to use it again later >>
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...lity_List.aspx
I do not advise @BIOS unless you have no other options, but you do have other options as linked above. Qflash can be used in MANY ways, and you could also always flash from DOS using FlashSPI that comes with the BIOS download packages
I just tried the F6e Bios off of tweak town and once I saw that my overclock was no longer stable I tried to flash back to F5e and QFlash would hang every time I tried it. I tried F4, F5, F6a and F5e and nothing would work except a reflash to F6e. Anyone else have this issue? Is this a known problem or update to Q-flash?
I ended up making a Bootable USB Flash Drive using the instructions on tweaktown (thanks lsdmeasap) to undo the issue and get back to the old bios.
All BIOS after 3/11 should not have that Qflash issue. Are you sure you loaded and applied optimized defaults after you flashed to F6e then saved and rebooted to make your changes?
Yes, that was a known issue with Pre 3/11 Beta's but should be corrected in all from 3/11 onwards. Glad to see my guide saved you, anyone else who has this issue keep in mind you can use @ BIOS my suggestion would be Flashing From DOS via FlashSPI. Bootable USB Flash would work as well as mentioned above
And do keep in mind, all BIOS versions will differ as far as settings go, mean some will need more of something others maybe less. So you should not base your opinion on how good a BIOS is just because exact past BIOS settings will not be stable for you. And please do not use Old BIOS profiles in newer BIOS's either
Can anyone else provide feedback about F6e and Qflash? Can you flash back to any older BIOS's or not? Thanks
Yep I loaded F6e with Q-Flash and went straight to the BIOS after reboot and loaded optimized defaults, saved, rebooted and started overclocking from there. Thanks for the heads up about the variability of BIOS settings as I did not know that, but I have never used profiles as I do it the hard way and just go change every setting manually.
So it sounds like I could have used @ BIOS to fix this issue? I thought about that but due to your warnings on tweaktown I have never used that application. Also is there a way to force the MB to use the backup Bios that is stored in the second Bios chip or will it only do that if the primary is corrupted?
I have never updated my secondary BIOS with Alt +F12 so I was trying to find a way to force the MB to read from that one as it should be F3 which came with the MB.
Interesting that you say it was a problem with pre 3/11 beta's as I have been running beta's off of tweaktown since a few days after I got the UD5 and I have been flashing the BIOS regularly forward and backwards with no issues. I noticed the drops in temps with the F5 Series and I played with the 21X200 Bclk seetings with F6a but have always come back to F5e for my best LinX stable setting at 4.095. I need to get on one night and get some help from the experts to break 4.2 one of these nights.
New BIOS:
GA-EX58-Extreme - F6i
released 18.03.09
GA-EX58-UD4 - F4e
GA-EX58-UD3R-SLI - F3c
released 13.03.09
ya, do keep that in mind. All BIOS's will differ for sure, some more then others. Of course some may feel like all works just the same as another, but not often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terlcartman
Yes, you could have used @BIOS, but I do not suggest Windows based flashing when there is many other methods available.
Ya, you can short out the Main BIOS chip, if you wanted to do so. >>>
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=520
But other then that or corruption you can't choose to boot from the backup. You may or may not have F3 in there, the BIOS will backup itself without you using ALT+F12, I am not sure when or what invokes this or how often it happens but it will be done for sure without you manually doing it. So you could have any in between F3 and what you are using now in your secondary chip.
The Qflash issue, that you came upon today, has not always been around but just in the last few sets of Beta's here the past week or three. The issue is just as you described it, once flashed with a Problematic BIOS the user could no longer use Qflash to flash to a previous BIOS and had to use DOS based flash or otherwise to go back to a older BIOS.
It has not been a constant thing either, I had been advised to pass along warnings that the Qflash issues may or may not be resolved. That is until a few days ago I was informed that they believed all BIOS after 3/11 should be good to go.
So hopefully your issue was just a quirk maybe? Care to run a check to see if it happens again still with F6e? No worries if you don't want to, I understand fully. If you do please post your results.
Anyone else please advise as well if you have Qflash issues after using a Beta dated after 3/11 so that I may pass it along
Hey guys, a bit info so that you all would know.
Tonytiger here had a problem getting over 170bclck and I had the exact same problem... whatever I tried, million bioses and what so ever, nothing helped. Yesterday I changed the CPU to another 920 with the same FPO! And whoila, boots straight away on 180 and even on 200!!!
The other thing I noticed was that the CPU that didnt do over 170 had default volts of 1.3250, the new on the other hand has default volts 1.2850!!
I am not eager to try to repeat the issue with F6e as it cost me the entire evening trying to figure out what the issue was and then how to resolve it. I will think about it the next time I try for a higher overclock and be glad to post my results if it comes up again. Thanks for the help and the answers, I tried to find the answers with various searches last night but came up empty so I really appreciate the answers.
Just got my system fired up, my backup disk that I had used for all of my media is listed as dynamic so Vista Home doesn't recognize it.. currently fixing that issue and then off to see if I can make 3.4GHz on the stock cooler before the rest of my water cooling supplies come in!
so true i can't get x10 on the memory stable... thanks for postingQuote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
Hi.
I am having a problem about setting my speakers up inn 4.0. I am only getting sound inn my front Speakers and not my rear. and I know that my rear speakers are functioning.
I think it`s a Driver issue what do you guys think.:confused:
Holy batman! My broken memory channel A issue is gone. I power up my system today and saw that all 3 GB of memory is present, and all utilities reports Triple Channel. *celebrating*
Hi,
I'm gonna phase change my core i7 and I was wondering if the Gigabyte x58 Extreme has any overheating shutdown option, I've seen that it beeps if the processor reaches a certain temp, but I don't know if it shuts down.
Could someone please tell me if it does?
Thx!
I just flashed my UD5 to F6e and yes I have the same problem (I've also loaded optimized defaults, saved, rebooted).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
Will try bootable USB later on.
Mind you, I can't seem to get over a bclk of 180 stable.
I can do 180 fine at:
20x Multi
Vcore 1.3000
QPP/VTT 1.3000
Turbo/HT/All Power Saving Functions OFF
VDIMM 1.64
PLL 1.80
Memory Multi 8x, Uncore 16x
I've tried upping all volts and still cant get 190 stable!
Mind you, I've only used F5 and F6e BIOS revs.
Any ideas? Back down CPU Multi? Increase Uncore Multi? Change to another BIOS rev. (if so can you recommend a few)?
EDIT: A few things I forgot to mention.
Just tried a bootable USB, got F5 BIOS working again.
I cant get 3.8 or 4.0 stable at all, a few minutes of priming and BSOD. I've tried these settings:
19x Multi & 200 Bclk, 20x Multi * 190 Bclk
Vcore 1.4000
QPP/VTT 1.3600
VDIMM 1.66
PLL 1.88
Uncore Multi 18x
Memory is a G.SKill PI kit rated at 8-8-8-21 @ 1.6-1.65V
Any suggestions?
EDIT 2: Few more details which might be of use.
Load Line Calibration Enabled
185 Blck * 20x Multi seems to be stable so far (45min of Prime95)
No the mobo will not shut down the computer if i7 overheats. But the i7 will shut itself down at around 120C, or about 20C over tjmax, if throttling fails to maintain it at 100C from catastrophic cooling failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterW_R
I use realtemp and set my cpu temp at 90C and gpu at 80c, so in case of a pump failure/water cooling failure, realtemp will shutdown the computer. I have tested it many times, works great. You can get latest version in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3443
go to settings, alarm, set to bat file... RTshutdown.bat, then enter any temp for cpu you want. Also if you have nvidia gpu you can enter gpu shutdown temps as well. And just place realtemp in start up folder or use task manager to have it start if using vista or win 7.
What?!
No shutdown temps in a >300$ motherboard?!!
I should have picked an asus motherboard, they always come with this option...
My guess is that there is no speed fan control either?!
:gay: pick what please you!
Why would you do the research after buying it? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterW_R
Oh no you have to download free software and run it in the background for protection, ahhh and it takes up 1,700K of memory!!!!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterW_R
On a positive note I am up to 195 Bclk now, damn thing wouldn't even POST with raid turned on till I throttled back down to 165. That was a little discouraging to say the least.
i see a little sarcasm here:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Altspacen
more testing under water with a 3842A937. why did I wait so long for a WC setup :shrug:
lol!
Software temp control is always worse than bios temp control, besides you need to have the os loaded to do that and I don't always run windows u know.
It just surprises me that this bios is lacking of such BASIC options, I understand that everyone in this forum has the same "toy" but lets not lose perspective here, regarding bios options, we are not getting enought for what we payed, I still like this board though, generaly speaking.
In that respect, do you ever get enough for what you paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterW_R
Abit IC7 MAX3 for socket 478...BEST Motherboear EVER :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altspacen
Anyway, I don't see the fan speed controls anywere, do you guys know if there. Is a speed fan control implemented in the BIOS?
Btw: Rge thnx for your input