Very nice Dumo, what shop did you get it from? :up:
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Very nice Dumo, what shop did you get it from? :up:
How many people have posted on XS complaining about their dud ES chip, especially during the pre-release or hot-off-the-presses marketing phase?Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
The difference is that Intel isn't going to give out "duds" to people who they want to tout their new chips on-line. The ES chips in the marketing build-up are well binned and not necessarily representative of retail. As we have already seen with some people getting less than stellar results with these chips retail already.
It's just common sense that ES chips passed out for marketing purposes are going to be above average or well above average.
Just for comparo...This retail 8500 from coolaler ran on air...
Its probly better:)
測試諸元:9.5x485=4607MHz
Vcore:1.48v
直接進桌面
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalercbb/E8500BOX/2.gif
Here is a quote from someone I have a great deal of respect for:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
I have had some I have bought that clocked poorly and they went to Ebay. I did not post in bold letters, like your reply, that I got a dud ES chip. I think that is what most who get their hands on poor clocking ones do.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Your logic says there are no poor clockers, Intel would not send them out. We know that there are some poor clocking ES chips.
Sorry Dumo to go OT on your thread.
Think I got a dud e8400es, lol...but it is an B1 chip, not even a C0. Can't do 4ghz orthos blend stable. Members OBR and godsfist have had pretty poor luck with some retail e8400's too:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=172882
Actually, that analysis still backs up my core claim, namely that you can't judge how retail chips will clock based on what people see published with ES samples. Whether they are being binned by Intel because they know the marketing value of good publicity (which pretty much any company would do) or whether the bad ones simply never get posted because all the ES holding people just decide to not share bad runs, either way the result is the same. People read about a lot of great ES results with basically no discussion of the low end, creating an inflated opinion among potential buyers about what to expect.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
That's it. My OT comments are done now as well.
Intel doesn't specially bin ES chips ; in fact most are early steppings intended for validation work at mobo manufacturers and ISV.
4th time is a charm, I finally got a 4GHz prime stable chipQuote:
Originally Posted by LagunaX
But the bastard has one core 15 degrees hotter than the other :shrug:
What version of Prime are you running? Older versions will only stress one core.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
There is a 15 degree difference at idle as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by g1raffe
Hope everything is OK. Yellow box still working?
it nice, .....Quote:
Originally Posted by lukas69
i like your's machine
E8500 is best chip & I am planning to replace my E6600 with it
Yellow box is dead:( ...Its old though, probly can't keep up with heat load from new gen cpu:)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
B/way still playing with air and vcore.....
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5...shot005ht1.jpg
Same vcore for 4.6G SS....It seems like >5gigers chip if it goes cold, as long as FSB can keep up:)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1...shot006ki9.jpg
RIP yellow box..
Great results Dumo. :toast:
i agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
what FSB are you getting with this chip btw
Do not tempt us with is aircooling business Dumo, throw that under some ice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
@fhpchris....Its just fun to run 4.6Ghz air with $2 HSF, not long ago we need $800 SS or expensive copper pot to do it:)
Nice to see you bench again.:clap:
YGPM
Thanks Andre:toast:
Sub 10s with untweaked SP1m, 1.49Vcore still on air:)
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9...shot015xq3.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8...shot013od5.jpg
I will try E8500 retail today.
fwiw, these es's are also c0, so not much should have changed when moving onto the final releases. back in the conroe days, the final es was b1. despite some that clocked real well, wasn't it said that b2's have a slight edge in spi clock for clock?
that said, we saw some spectacular g0 es's. first shipping g0's didn't do too well, especially the lower binned ones. but they picked up with time again a fair amount.
I guess a major part of es is that a "low" bin es might be no different than the top dog
I hate you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
j/k
I'm really jealous... still can't get 'em here in NL...damn... :mad:
fast for 5-5-5-x timings hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
my retail needs more vcore to hit clocks that produce similar pi 1m times
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...1m_9s984ms.png
nice to see a retail......lets hope they do even or better than the ES ones..
You are so right. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
It is so much more fun to get high clocks and fast spi times without having to use SS or DI.
Really good clocks for that cooler. Waiting for your retail results.
He's using better cooling then you. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000