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Originally Posted by m411b
Dude, I have no idea why I didn't think of that! But hey, thanks. I wish we had a "Thanks" button here @ XS. You would have just gotten one!Quote:
Originally Posted by m_jones_
BTW, nice OC V-FrIeNd!
HI here you have http://www.mediafire.com/?2k5a1g539fn4fgsQuote:
Originally Posted by ak60
sorry
Need help guys.
Gigabyte 990fxA ud5,phenom 1055t
this is my bios setting and all default.
all option auto. vcore auto (1.4v)
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4651/img0256zz.jpg
but when i change option to manual with little oc and without change system voltage control, my proc vcore = 1.275v
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3221/img0257py.jpg
and i try to change voltage control to manual, it happen again. vcore = 1.275v
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2431/img0258c.jpg
And i try to set cpu voltage to 1.3v on easy tune.
the different between load and iddle became like this.
load :
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5...37ghz990fx.jpg
idle :
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2...37ghz990fx.jpg
Is there anything wrong with my setting or mobo or cpu??
thx....
sorry if my english bad.
no that is AM3+ design guidelines but you can do a few things tor educ the vdroop, such as turn off turbo core, flash to BIOS F5B.
Hmm, I dont have a turbo core option in f4b bios for the ud7. Any other ideas to help with this?
just set a little higher vcore. its not going to hurt at all.
so, which one the right vcore??Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
on MIT or PC Health???
are they different?
yes, + 0.025v on pc healt.
Still no F4 or F5 bios for UD3? Gigabyte ralizes how bad it limits users ability to use board when usb keyboards bug in UD3?
Come on gigabyte, give new UD3 bios asap!!!
Time to go and do modified UD3 bios with some parts from UD7.
a hardware mod for vdroop? this is dissapointing... i thought gb engineers would have something like a bios fix for it...
They will have bios to fix it, but they should have allready fixed all these problems.
Look how good ASUS CHV bios is compared to GA-990FXA-UD3/5
I've currently got my Crosshair 4 Extreme on Ebay so that I can get a UD7 as the LLC and voltage spikes during load are pissing me off!!!
My old MSI 790FX GD70 was amazing in that respect, Vcore was solid, Never rose or dipped during load or idle.
UD3 is pissing me off, i put voltage in bios to 1.475v, it results to 1.45v in windows.
In load it stays at that 1.45volts but suddenly few times each minute it ups voltage to 1.575volts without any reason.
These measurements are done with digital multimeter.
UD5 and UD7 are fine tough...
So the UD7 has Vdroop and Vdrop as well then :(Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
This is design feature, eg. the board suppose to have Vdrop at load.Quote:
Originally Posted by almighty15
What some users want is no Vdrop or less of it and for that Gigabyte will hopefully release new BIOS rev. soon. Even though My UD7 has Vdrop it clocks my 1090T slightly better than my old CHIVF. I was very happy with Asus board till it started having stability issues and eventually I've sent it for RMA, but I'm equally happy if not more with UD7 now. It clocks like a dream and comes with one BIOS option I love - Turbo Core Boost.
UD7 has same problems!Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
I take it "Turbo Core Boost" is only available with Thuban?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
turbo core, c1e and CnQ are off?Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
Thuban and Zambezi. Nothing you cant do in AOD, but it is so much easier when done from BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
My Crosshair 4 extreme has always had an Turbo boost section in my BIOS
Not in Formula, anyway what does it do in your case?Quote:
Originally Posted by almighty15
Boost to turbo clocks with 5 cores loaded instead of normal 3 or something else?
I can just run it with my overclock, I have 4.2Ghz normal overclock and 4.5Ghz TurboQuote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Is the GA-990FXA-UD3 a good motherboard for around $190 or should i pick something else? I wont be running SLI from the beginning tho. I want to pay max $200
I think I wasn't precise enough with my description.Quote:
Originally Posted by almighty15
On UD7 I have normal Turbo Core in BIOS as all boards supporting Thuban, but on top of that option there is Turbo Core BOOST option which boosts more than default 3 cores, it boosts 5 cores out of 6 to turbo speed. I find it very useful especially for gaming where normal Turbo Core was lets say 50% of time boosting CPU speed due to system loads + game loading more than 3 cores at a time therefore forcing CPU to stock speed. With Turbo Core Boost I can play Crysis 2, Witcher 2 or almost any other game with 99% of CPU time spent in turbo clock.
I hope it's clear now what I'm talking about.
Well i ment with that that when in UD5/7 i set it to 1.475 volts it sticks in that 1.45-1.475 volts and dont suddenly sky rocket it to 1.575 volts like with UD3.Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
When i overclock UD5 and UD7 sticks with that 1.45v in idle and doesnt drop or rise voltages when in heavy load.
CnQ is On, Turbo Core is Off, C1E dont remember ill check later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
CnQ is On due i want it to go to 800-1000Mhz at 1.1 - 1.2 volts than stay at 1.45 - 1.47 volts all the time when im doing nothing with the PC, due i want it save power at those times, electric bills for me is astronomic since i have 14 servers in basement and they eat alot of power.
rintamarotta, thanks that you tested ud3 with meter. Good that I didnt oc this mobo yet. As you, im waiting for new bios that fix damn vdroop.
Gigabyte sent me the new bios pm with your email address and i will send it to you. ( 990fxa ud3)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
I need the new bios also, i send you my details if youre willing to send it :)
F3B? F4B?
Strange thing is when i set vcore to 1.56 volts it wont do that strange jump but sticks with that 1.56 volts when its running at full frequency, but when i set vcore to 1.475 it will do that jump sometimes to 1.575volts.
No idea whats causing this problem.
Edit :
F3A overvolts cpu by 0.03volts compared to F2 bios, but it fixed alot of bugs i noticed.
It no more hangs at that storage drive list at my BlueRay drive when trying to go bios while ACHI is enabled.
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Idle Vcore vs LinX Vcore
Everything stock no tweaking, yet.
Makes me wonder what will happen when I start OC'ing.
Thats some massive drop.
But this will happen when you overclock it.
Note only Min and Max because there it is when its at full stress. Min is idle voltage, Max is load voltage how ever multimeter shows same with newer bios. Bios set to 1.5volts.
Those temps i have.. are way off.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/885...willhappen.png
Let me say 1 thing about that pc. DUST.
Clean it up :D
soon I will add a RS120 in the rear and a Koolance QDC, then I will change my Vipers for some Clear Koolance.
Finally I've let go the one year and an half "temporary" mid/low end motherboard and made the move back to a top motherboard, to be more specific the 990fxa-ud7. Amongst with it the ddr2 modules also had to go a a set og 8GB crucial ballistix stick were purchased. So now the big question, what's the most recent bios version available? Currently I'm using f4b.
Still haven't tried anything much with the board, just installed it a couple hours ago and I'm still setting everything up.
note to self, updade sig.
I see...Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
My UD7, I have set in BIOS 1.275v and it sit at around 1.409 while idle. But under heavy load it drops down to 1.295. I've not seen it spike yet, if it even will. I really hope this problem is fixed in a future BIOS and when an actual BD core is attached to the socket.
An example:
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-Modify memory compatibility with using AM3+ CPU under Win7
Easy Tune6 (AMD) B11.0704.1
Just update bios to F4 :
still up and down vcore.
still wait for the next bios......
Isn't F5b bios newer than F4 ??Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
well this UD3 seems to be a great board, I haven't noticed any VRM problems, but my 790FX-UD5P had a more solid vcore. UD3 do overvolt by 0,03V the CPU when loaded.
My 790FX Overvolts vdimm by 0,06V and it only had 0,05V VDRAM increments. The readed value was wrong also, and it shows the same that was set in bios and that was 0,06v higher when measured w/ DMM.
900FXA-UD3 has 0,005 vdimm increments that's very nice, and readed, real, set voltage are very precise within 0,01v difference for DMM.
good to hear barrel, keep us updated :)
i agree with rinnamotta's and barrels findings at vcore. when I ran prime, first two voltages 1.35 and 1.45 are quite stable, maybe hoped up to 0.02 for a sec that I didnt notice. But it was worse when I started with 1.5v, it jumped back and forth 0,03v for a while but at the end stabilized. It is what I noticed for every 20-30 min run.
i need fix NB heatsink (tmp2) :p since i have taken off this before. it rises up 70c at load lol
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Sometimes I just hate the place I live, I serached for this motherboard all over the world, ordered from the other side of the globe and when it arrives... that's what I found in the manual.
http://i52.tinypic.com/205fpc5.jpg
The worst part is that I'm pretty sure it will be the last place that it will be available to buy.
Is google translation correct? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
If google translation is corrent, why that is problem??Quote:
Produced in the Industrial Pole of Manaus
This project has the support of the federal government: MPO / SEPRE / SUDAN
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1966/unledwuw.th.png
Quite stable voltages at 1.475v set trough bios with F3b, how ever, no idea about what TMPIN1 and TMPIN2 are but damn they're running insanely hot, i can only guess but i think TMPIN1 is PWM and TMPIN2 is chipset.
Those temperatures are normal while Noctua NH-D14's middle fan blowing air to PWM??????????????????????.
Good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
have you pulled off the heatsinks to make sure they all make good contact? cant hurt at leastQuote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
Yes i have checked chipset but not PWM, i think TMPIN2 is that high due graphics card is right top of it, how ever lower side of heatsink is hot, and upper side is cold, what i can do is move graphicscard to better location.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
When i touch the PWM heatsink its running hot as hell, barely can touch it, its running so hot but this should not be the case since NH-D14's big middle fan is blowing air to PWM.
I think what i need is more exhaust fans to case since there is 3 intake fans and 2 exhaust fans (1 intake at "floor" of the case, 2 intakes at front of the case, 1 exhaust at back of the case, 1 exhaust at sidepanel at spot where graphics card is).
EDIT : Bah, i checked wrong heatsink... the heatsink is top of pci-e x16 and its running hotter than hell, i think i need again rebuild this pc and check that damn heatsink.
just felt mine on chIVF and its hotter than hell too, i also have my gpu in 2nd slot down
Well i got PWM temps down by 10celcius by remounting it, but NB just keaps going at 60-62 celcius at load.
I havent upped any voltages in NB so it should stay much lower, hot NB is heating up also cpu cooler litlebit but it can handle that heat due its NH-D14.
Guess its normal to have 60+ celcius in NB and 70+ celcius in PWM at 4ghz+ with full load, after all cpu is eating 140+ watts of power with overclock.
Another thing why it maybe is running hot is due indoor temperatures of 25-30 celcius in summer.
EDIT : Gigabyte send me new bios F3b Beta. If someone wants it just pm me and ill send it soon as i can.
Currently with 1 fan pulling air into the case a 120mm 1000rpm fan sitting by the nb (placed on top of my gpu) and a 900rpm exhaust my TMPIN1 34c is TMPIN2 34c idleQuote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
Sent you a pm for the bios, did the gigabyte rep said it's ok to flash with the @Bios application?
I have flashed my UD5 twice with the built in Q-flash utility without any issues. The board does have dual bios chips (UD3 also have dual Bios). So in case a flash goes bad it will auto revert to the backup in the secondary chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by m_jones_
In other words, you can safely choose the method of flashing that suits you without worrying to much about a failed BIOS flash.Quote:
GIGABYTE DualBIOS™ is a patented technology that automatically recovers BIOS data when the main BIOS has crashed or failed. Featuring 2 physical BIOS ROMs integrated onboard, GIGABYTE DualBIOS™ allows quick and seamless recovery from BIOS damage or failure due to viruses or improper BIOS updating.
My board is in the case so there is nothing but CPU cooler blowing air to PWM and allmost nothing blowing air to NB since there is nowhere place to put fan due monster sized Noctua NH-D14 :/Quote:
Originally Posted by m_jones_
Gigabyte rep didnt say anything about that but since UD3 have got DualBios you can flash it without being afraid you screw up you're bios flash.
I flashed from F2 to F3a and F3a to F3b without any problems with built in Q-flash.
Anyway i sended the bios links to you and other people who asked.
Thank you both for your help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
Well basically that's telling that the board I had to order from Estonia, was produced in the back of my home. But we won't see that around anytime soon, and when it appears in local market it will be overpriced. That's a best for the others filosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
Wel my board runs at same temps as my old UD5P.
I want the new bios for it, can someone PM me or post the links here?
I send the UD3 F3b bios link for you.
This is the best i can get so far with the F3b bios.
1.475 set it bios, idles at 1.488 and under load its at 1.536
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/ba6e0550.jpg
ugh just realised i have two of the same screens on cpuz open
Thanks guys! Testing...
Damn that board runs at low temps, 41max for PWM as well as for Chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIP3R
No idea why mine runs so hot.
for the UD7 here is a vdroop mod that will eliminate the vdroop:
I take no responsibility for what ppl do.
UD7 only.
Attachment 117660
My UD7 idles @ 34*c and I've never seen it get hotter than 39*c..Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
Are you OC'ing ???Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
My UD5 runs cool a stock clocks. But when I start to OC, then around 4 GHz + Linx the PWM temp gets into the late 50's early 60's.
But it's not something I'm worried about.
Well I'm running a 955 @ 3.7 with NB @ 2600 with stock volts! But I have all this in a Antec Lanboy Air with 4 fans pointed at the mobo. I'd say get worried around mid to late 70's. My Gigabyte UD5P got up to the low 90's with no problems, but I don't know how these new NB's handle heat, so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toysoldier
Ive got an open test bench and a 120mm fan over the NB and PWM, that might be why it stays cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
hey can someone with BIOS F5B for the UD7 PM me the download link plz.
Hi all can you please assist. Will the UD7 fit in a Raven 02E chassis?
yea it should its standard ATX.
F5B BIOS for UD7???Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
yea sorry, i thought someone said there is a F5B BIOS for the UD7 haha i looked everywhere for it, but i guess it doesn't exist lol.
I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
Owner of UD5 ask over OC forum for F5b.
Yeah, sin0822 asked for it. As soon as I saw it I thought that maybe I missed something. But sin0822 was mistaken unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thank you for the replyQuote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
UD7: ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 26.3cm
UD5 : ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm
So UD7 only wider but narrower than the mobo i just fitted in the case( Asus Rampage Extreme III)
yea its a bit wider, but should pose as no problem.
And yea sorry guys, i thought i read over at the GB UK forums some guy said he had the UD7 F5B BIOS, but i guess it was just for the UD5! hahah
Anyways I just finished all my testing on the F4B, not a bad BIOS. I had minimal BIOS problems, of course the voltage drop was there, but i compensated for it :), high idle vcore didnt' bother my CPU at all, temps under load were under 55C:
Idle:
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load:
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What a great board, 300blck was easy as hell, max cpu clock is 4400 with the same vcore as above, and 4200/1920 on the ram is my Stable OC using a 1100T and Corsair 2133mhz 9,10,9,27 T2 rated RAM.
I will have a full review up asap, and Ill make sure to link it to you guys in this thread.
Thats some huge vDrop.
Its not that extreme in my board.
990FXA UD5 arrived today With some Patriot Extreme 2133 sticks.... Anything i should Know before i torture my 555 Muhhahaha.
Its been a while , I could not hold out any longer:D
vdrop on my ud7 with a 965 is kinda big, I had to bump it to 1.475 on bios so it idles on 1.488 and on load drops to 1.422, that's the only way I can keep my system stable or else it drops under 1.4 and causes instability.
well you just have to compensate of the vdroop, it doesn't bother temperatures for me, plus idle vcore isn't that big of a deal.
that's what I've done ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
My 1090T drops according to CPU-Z from stock 1.3V to 1.288 under full load. Not a big issue here :)
YO!!! great to see ya back! i think ill be getting the same board you just got and i also just got some g.skill 2133c8 sticks getting ready for BD ;) got a 1090t & 1100t here if you want to play with one of them for awhile, you have to torture thuban :up: they are both vg chipsQuote:
Originally Posted by gOtVoltage
I was thinking of putting together a cheap AM3+ rig.
Is the UD3 worth it? I know the bios ATM is not the best.
I wanted an all black scheme.
Edit: only 2 way sli/crossifre! WHY! :(
ud3 is enough good but it looks like you will go for UD5/7 :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
All I have to say is that hobbies are expensive!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
So the UD7 is the only 4 way SLI/Crossfire board for AM3+? Hmm.....
UD3 16x/16x Crossfire/SLI
UD5 16x/8x/8x Crossfire/SLI
UD7 8x/8x/8x/8x Crossfire/SLI
Cant complain for UD3 having "only" Two-way 16x/16x Crossfire/SLI-
right. but it sounds strange if you want 4x Xfire. ud7 is not that expensive if you are prepared to run 4x GPU . maybe 4x 6990 is cheaper than ud7? :p: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
Well, my main rig is the i7 in my profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
I just wanted something to bench/play with. Another i7 is just boring. AM3+ will no doubt have a lot more features. I was actually looking for cheap AMD cards to do 3 or 4 way. Opposite end of the spectrum, I know!
i understand.. maybe wait a little until bulldozer and see if ud7 is worth for 4x xfire and BD?Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
Oh yeah, I'll be waiting, no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
I don't play favorites, I like both cpu companies. I was going to get AM3+, but couldn't wait any longer.
I haven't really done any hardcore OC'ing with AMD since my PII 945 on an AM2+ board.
Got a UD3, and a AII x2 to hold me over. Too bad this heatwave is preventing me from getting over 3.4.
yea mean i agree with that heat wave, i am in VA and we are under extreme heat watch under tomorrow, i can't even go outside. But heck i just turned up the AC so my OCing is being good! hahaha
UD5 does 16x/16x when using two cards as well. its 8x with three. Should have my Mobo up soon. Im liking the lay out and the new color shceme . Well 1.61v on the 555 like always ahould be no prob!
Searched through the thread but nobody seems to have a 970A-UD3. Seems to be the perfect candidate for those that do not need to have Crossfire support. VRM section seems much more robust than the Asus M5A97 EVO board
Am i the only one who has a huge vid spike when under load?
How big?Quote:
Originally Posted by VIP3R
Isn't it due to the Turbo kicking in?
If you seeing it in CPU-Z, try HWiNFO. It shows realtime clocks for each core at the same time.
Something I have noticed with my UD7 is that when I OC and get BSOD to many times. My system isn't stable at stock speeds anymore. The conclusion I have come up with is that the BSOD and general system instability is corrupting the BIOS. To fix it, I reflash the BIOS and everything is OCable again and stable. I've had to do this proly 4 or 5 times now.
Any suggestions? Or is this just Gigabytes flaky BIOS showing it's teeth?
yeah set it so it doesn't restart on error and write down what is says in the BSOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by m411b
Honestly the UD7 looks so nice but the CV5 has all the pwm fans ports I want but lacks a 4th card slot. :/
The UD7 has 6 pci-express slots.
That's the one I was looking at, TBH the 990x-UD3 won out due to a better newegg comboQuote:
Originally Posted by Miwo
at stock the BIOS is set to use the turbo function and change vcore from 1.375 to 1.475 at stock, maybe that is what you are seeing?Quote:
Originally Posted by VIP3R
here are some VRm o-scope tests to keep you guys busy!
These are scope shots of max ripple spike and average ripple spike that is pass/fail, it shows us how much of the time the spikes occurred during the given time slot. Very good stable performance. over 120-100mv ripple is where one should start to worry. overclocked 80mv-100mv is acceptable. Stock 30-80mv is acceptable. These are at stock. This is vantage CPU test 2, VERy crazy on the VRm since loads are changing 24/7 there is almost not constant loading so we get these transients, no matter what board. Their height(Vpp) Peak 2 peak measures noise and ripple. More goodies to come in the real review! just wanted to give you guys a sneak peak.
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do you guys understand stuff like this, when i make pictures like this for my reviews?:
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