FSB: 400Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
Mult: 7.5
Vcore: 1.3625
Vfsb(Vtt): 1.300
Vmch: 1.400
GTL: defaults
333/1333 8-7-6-24-4-80-10-5-5
Vdimm: 1.70
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FSB: 400Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
Mult: 7.5
Vcore: 1.3625
Vfsb(Vtt): 1.300
Vmch: 1.400
GTL: defaults
333/1333 8-7-6-24-4-80-10-5-5
Vdimm: 1.70
:up::up::up: Thx menQuote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Hello everyone, I'm having a very annoying problem and I'm not sure if it's the RAM or mobo.. Whenever I play a 3d game, my computer will freeze or just reboot within 10-15 minutes. I PM'ed MrBungle a few days ago because I couldn't post in the forums and he suggested to either underclock the fsb a little or up the voltages on the fsb and nb. Unfortunately, those suggestions did not work. I didn't want to underclock the fsb.. It's a small oc.... HardOCP couldn't really help and the OCZ techs in the forums helped stabilize gaming to ~40 minutes to maybe an hour before it freezes and reboots again... So I'm asking here hoping someone will be my PC GOD and help me figure out what's going on here. I'm not sure if something is going bad or what. Plz help :(
I recently upgraded my video cards from duel radeon 3870's to duel radoen 4870's. On my 3870's, I overclocked my E8500 cpu to 3.8GHz and 9.5 multiplier. That gives me a 400fsb running at 1600mhz. This is my first real experience OCing and it took me awhile, but I got it 100% stable. Prime95 ran for ~20 hours before I stopped it. Never had problems gaming. My mobo is the DX48BT2 with 1814 BIOS, ram is 2x2gb OCZ DDR3-1600 and they're in the black slots running duel channeled, psu is an Enermax Galaxy 1000w.
Last night, I ran Prime95 blend test for 13 hours, 14 minutes and got NO errors. I opened a game, and my pc reboot within 10 minutes...
Current timings:
vcore: 1.325v
fsb: 1.25v
mch: 1.35v
7-6-6-24 @ 1.9v are my RAM's factory settings @ 1600mhz. I've tried 7-7-7-24, 8-7-7-24, 8-8-8-24, etc. and nothing seems to keep it stable while gaming... 8-7-7-24 keeps it stable much longer though but it'll still end up freezing/rebooting. I've tried downclocking my RAM to 1333mhz @ 1.86v which I THOUGHT was stable but playing a game for about an hour froze my pc...
I'm not sure if this is even a mobo/ram issue... It almost seems like and heating/power issue but my pc runs fine when everything is @ stock settings... Thing is, stock clocks my RAM at like 1111mhz with 1.54v which is ridiculous but it works. Prime95 is stable but PC gaming is not. Could my Enermax 1000w psu not be supplying enough power to the cards? Or maybe my card(s) are overheating but I am using the fan mod.
i still think your vFSB and vMCH are low. if not, you might start looking at your video cards and video driver. the games you're testing on are important to know, too. but i'd up the vFSB and vMCH to 1.35 and 1.425 respectively first.
What proc are we dealing with here? I not catch that if mentioned.
I overclock the CPU (multi) to 3.6 GHz at stock 400 FSB and I run 1600 on my ram at which are dual ranked (double sided) sticks so I can push to 1600 with the vMCH not all that high.
I have 1 ATI 4870
My numbers are:
FSB: 400
Mult: 9
Vcore: 1.3270 (lower than the bios 'auto')
Vfsb(Vtt): 1.275
Vmch: 1.250
GTL: defaults
400/1600 7-7-7-18-60-6-5-8-6-1T
Vdimm: 1.90
i think that it could be your Crossfire configuration because your Cpu OC seems to be Ok, try with one 4870 only, do you have oced one 4870? what temps do yours 4870s have? after that try runing 3dmark and post the results to us :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
jumping to another topic, does any one knows what does "max cpu value limit" option in bios do?
I don't think it's crossfire because I have the same issue with just one of them as well. I did not have this problem with my two 3870's which I'm thinking about putting back in but man what a drag... :(
It could be a heat issue.. I'm thinking about buying a small fan and ghetto installing it by the graphics to help the airflow. There's very little room between the first card and the second card and the first card is 10c hotter on idle and load because of it.
I was playing Crysis Warhead earlier for 15 minutes and I quit because I figured it would freeze soon anyways and to also check the temp and my gpu and it was 90c. I have it set to have my fan speed at 100% when it gets 90c and above. And the fan control does work, my pc gets much louder when I'm gaming because of it. Windows seems fine. I haven't noticed any freezing or rebooting (YET anyways). Seems to only happen when gaming.
I just installed and ran 3dmark06 and I think I'm getting lower scores then I should be too. First time I ran the test, my computer reboot on Graphics Test #2... My fsb was @ 1.35v and mch was @ 1.425v. I dropped my fsb down to 1.275v and rose mch to 1.45v and ran the test again. It completed but I got a score of 18843, everything at default settings.
And DualCpuUser... What vcards do you have? When I had my radeon 3870's, my pc was stable with fsb @ 1.25v and mch @ 1.35v.
did you connect all 4 power conectors to both vgas?
Yes, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avantlord
*edit*
Raising fsb to 1.35v and mch to 1.4v, 1.425v and 1.45v did not work. I'm beginning to think I'm screwed here.. I used to love this mobo but now I'm beginning to despise it... But who knows if it's even the problem. Seems like it is. All I did is upgrade video cards.
What's odd is I was using ATI's display drivers (v8.9) and the latest beta of ATI Tray Tools which is like 1.5.9.1314 or so... I removed them and installed Catalyst 8.9 drivers and Crysis Warhead will reboot my computer every time when I push space or esc at the Crytek logo. ATI Tray Tools didn't do that. I disable CrossfireX and I can pass the intro and start playing. My PC reboots mid game both ways though so I still have a problem.
*edit #2*
Well I gave up and decided to put my 3870's back in... Everything runs fine again... IDK what's causing the 4870's to run so crappy when system is OC'ed... Maybe it's a power issue but this psu is supposed to be good. Maybe it's a driver issue... Maybe it's just the cards. Anyone have an idea? Anyways, I'm probably gonna rma both of them and maybe try for one 4870x2.
Read my postings here, and on HardForum from weeks ago. When I went from an 8800GTX to a 4870X2, the memory no longer worked at 1600MHz. Dropping down to 1333MHz solved my problem. I was however able to go from 9,9,9,24 at 1600 to 6,6,6,12 at 1333, so I probably didn't loose much if any memory bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
Hi all,
Another newbee question here. I finally got my system together and booted up and moving through the bios one thing I noticed is that my CPU is only showing a 6mb cache, whereas I thought my chip had a 12 mb cache. I am just trying to make sure this system is set up properly before I begin attempting to OC it. This is my first try at this :D. System containes DX38BT mobo, Q9550 cpu (liquid cooled) , 8800GT video (liquid cooled) , 8 gb Kingston 1333 ram ( only 1 gb installed at this time ), and lots of hard drives. O/S is Vista x64 Ultimate if that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance for any help or direction you can lend,
Harry
^ Where'd you look where it said how much cache you had? Do you have the latest BIOS?
Anyways, I tried what you suggested clark and downclocked my RAM to 1333mhz and 6-6-6-12 timings and so far so good.. I've tried this before but with 7-6-6-24 timings. My system was pretty stable but then one time my computer reboot. I didn't try much testing at 1333mhz though. I think that's horrible to have to downclock memory because this board can't handle 1600mhz ram when you have a powerful video card... I see this motherboard differently now. I'm probably staying away from Intel from now on. Shouldn't have to downclock on something when you upgrade a video card. Hopefully it's something that can be fixed in a BIOS update but I doubt it. Intel probably won't release another BIOS for this mobo.
90 to 100C is not unusual for these cards. I doubt they automatically go to 100% fan speed @ 100C. I had mine @ 50% and they were way to loud. I would try bumping the CPU voltage in tiny increments and see if you get any improvement, being that your MCH is already up there. What is your memory voltage at ?Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
Also, try going back to 8.6 drivers and see what happens. Every new Cat after that has had some strange issue with this board or some detrimental effect on gaming. I think the 8.6 are the first ones to support this card, but don't quote me.
I had it set to go to 100% when it got to 90c and above with ATI Tray Tools. I stopped using ATT for a little though. Even with CCC fan mod, I have a hotkey to have 1st card at 95% fan and 70% on 2nd. I don't have stock coolers on my video cards so 100% fan speed isn't that loud here. I also have headphones so I can't hear them. The 2nd video card is 15c cooler then the first one because it has more space.
I have tried everything man. I've tried upping my cpu voltage up to 1.35v with no luck. I shouldn't have to put a ton of extra voltage into my cpu because of a video card upgrade... Right?
My stock RAM settings are 7-6-6-24 @ 1.9v @ 1600mhz. I've tried 1.9v, 1.94v, 1.86v, 1.82v, 7-7-7-20, 7-7-7-24, 8-7-7-24, 8-7-7-26, 8-8-8-24, no luck. Some of them made it more stable but every testing eventually froze my pc in any 3d game.
I have NOT tried any other drivers besides the 8.9's though. Maybe I'll try the 8.6's but I have little hope. I've been trying to get it stable for about a week now. :shrug:
To summarize also, I could pass memtest86+ and prime95 at 1600MHz just fine. But when entering games, BAM, reboot. Only clocking down to 1333MHz solved the problem. There's something funny going on between this board, 1600MHz DDR3 (I have Corsair 2 x 2GB), and 4870X2s. I also have a QX9770, so my 1600MHz FSB was not overclocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
I'm glad to hear you had a problem just like mine. Installing the 8.6's didn't help any. In fact, Windows keeps telling me that there is no ATI card detected when I install those drivers. Tried it twice. I even used Driver Cleaner Pro in safe mode to remove them.Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_carty
I think there's something wrong with this board at the 4800 cards in general. :down:
My computer froze about 30 minutes into Crysis Warhead when ram was at 1333mhz though.... Maybe I don't have the right timings/voltages figured yet but this sucks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomBuggy
your cache is fine, is 6mb X 2 = 12mb, 6mb for each die
nice setup :up: with WC you shouldn´t have problems
it can be a stupid question from my side but, do you have connected the molex conector in the motherboard? what temps do you have in your NB? maybe the NB just colapse when use 2 pcie with that bandwith.... some expert with an idea? i´m worry about this.....:(Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
Is there a program where I can monitor my NB temps? I've never seen the BIOS temp go above 50c. But I can't monitor that when gaming. I don't see how it would just collapse when I'm using the same voltage (1.35v) as my previous cards. Everest says my mobo temp is 38c right now. Clark had the same problem. His 4870x2 is basically 2 4870's... Maybe you should get another 4870 Avantlord and see if it happens to you? :p
Oh yea, I have nothing in that molex connector thing on the motherboard... The sticker says its a 1x4 power? Should I plug a molex from my psu into that?
*edit*
Connecting power to that molex on the mobo didn't help it at all. What is that even for? All that the instructions say about it is a diagram saying it should be connected. It must not be very important.
Well,Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
it may have been the 8.7's then, give them a try. I know I had the same issue, and reverting to the prior drivers helped.
I totally agree with your statement on this board and 4870's. There is something definitely wrong, but issues have always plagued Crossfire.
Yeah, it's stable when RAM is 1333mhz.. 400/1333. 6-6-6-12-60 @ 1.9v. 1.25v fsb, 1.35v mch, 1.325v vcore. Thanks clark for making it so. :clap:
I'll try the 8.7's perhaps. I e-mailed Intel about this issue though. Don't know if they'll do anything about it or will be able to do anything about it.
The extra power connectors are for balancing the power equally across the board, esp. when you have high power requirements pulling power from the PCI bus up to its design max.Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum5584
It also keeps the chips in that whole area with proper votage and enough current.
-R
Hey again Intel fans,
I'm just scratching my head in disbelief here.
I decided to go with the OCZ Extreme for Intel boards mem. (Reaper was too expensive)
1333 XMP.
I install the mem set it to profile 1. I leave all cpu settings and voltages stock in CPU. I'm showing 1333mhz on CPU and the 1333mhz on mem.
The thing won't boot!!!! Only boots at stock settings that show 1066 6-6-6-20
Shouldn't this thing boot?
Does anyone have setting suggestions?
Thanks guys.
:shrug:
is your CPU overclocked? i know that using the XMP profiles with an overclocked CPU will overclock the memory as well. if not, try raising the memory's voltage by a notch and see what happens. i'm not a big fan of memory profiles anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoc
Make damn sure you are on 1814 of the MB Bios. the previous ones outright suck.
1) "load optimized defaults" system should run. (reboot)
2) "Turn off things you not use, the simple things"
3) "Turn on HPET" (Windows likes this a lot!!!)
4) "Do not turn on EFI, my op. still broken with USB keyboards)
5) If things work, then turn on XMP profile 1 and reboot.
5.1) make sure the voltage if needed shows as updated, if not then flip to manual mode and all the parms stay the way of profile, but then bump up the volts to what is required for ram.
5.2) if not work, see #6
6) "BUY G.SKILL PC3-1600 7-7-7-18 2X2GB" I run just perfectly at 400(1600) at those timmings and even a tad less than profile #1
-R
Hey MrBunglex, Thanks for the reply. I'm not a big fan of profiles either, but the fact is that this should run @ stock profile and yes, my CPU is stock settings, that's what's bugging me because this is Extreme OCZ mem for Intel extreme boards. I just wanted to see if it would run stock settings @ profile 1. You can't change voltage on XMP settings. It runs at 1.90vQuote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
So I contacted OCZ and said ''Hey dude what gives with the mem that won't run Profile 1 with stock CPU settings?'' :shakes:
Here's what I got back from them.
Please use these setting:
1333mhz
cas - 8
trcd - 8
trp - 8
tras - 28
command rate - 2t
trc - 36
trfc - 80
Memory voltage up to 1.75 Volts
Voltage of 1.66 or 1.67 seems to work magic on this board when nothing else will work.
Once you get this stable at these timings, you can go in and lower the timings 1 at a time and test for stability.
8-8-7-28
8-7-7-28
7-7-7-28
7-7-7-24
7-7-7-20
He says that there seems to be an issue with XMP and default settings with TRFC being way too low.
I also have a weird issue now in bios, My F10 command doesn't work. I have to save settings by the exit tab.
Suggestions are welcomed.
Thanks, ;)
Hey Dual,Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
Half the stuff you mentioned I already did. Even with EFI turned off my F10 command doesn't work anymore in bios.
I already have Patriot Viper 1600 that I removed because I need 4 Gigs.
I haven't played with mem settings yet because I'm at work.
I will try to do a manual tweak with the mem tonight. Where's HPET? I forget that one.
Thanks,
:up:
Hey Guys,
Just to update.
Get this, I turn off XMP Profile 1 and decide to go at it the good old manual way.
1333mhz
cas - 7
trcd - 7
trp - 7
tras - 20
command rate - 1t
trfc - 80
1.75v
Rock Solid!! Go figure :shrug:
Attachment 86168
Zardoc
Good to know you got it going. OCZ really rocks, low timings and all. I had serious issues at first with my Plats but it was a really early BIOS. Once I could boot (with another brand stick) and flash to the latest, well it's been smooth ever since.
I guess Tony has been giving a little (big) hand to the Intel engineers, not sure they would go very far alone. Why won't they steal some guys from Asus and learn something?! By the way, Tony where are you? How's the new stuff coming up? No new releases for a (long) while now, where are the tRD and all other goodies we look forward to?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
Hey Manel, I see you got some connections ;). Who's Tony??
System is really stable. I'm going to start playing around with it. Seems that the 9450 can take a licking and keep on ticking. :rolleyes:
Hey Z
Tony is THE MAN at OCZ, he's been helping out Intel guys with some BIOS tweaking. He visits here every once in a while. You can find him at the OCZ support forum of course, he's a great help. I believe he travels a lot and his time is short.
Good to know your system is running smooth, I myself have been looking at that 4GB kit, when I feel the need to move from 2GB that might be the way to go. OCZ always has great timings.
Let us know how far you can take those babies.
I misplaced my I/O shield (backplate) for my DX48BT2 . Any suggestions on where I can get one? :(
Hey guys,
I have also this motherboard. My plan was simple. DX48BT2, Q9450 (2.66), OCZ (1,9V, 7-6-6-20 default), get it to 1600 FSB+3,2Ghz CPU and I hoped it will worked like a charm :-) Well, not really. This mobo really needs love and a lot of playing with the settings.
I was able in about half hour to put it on 1600 FSB by these two steps.
1) CPU overide
FSB 400 mhz
Multi 6 (2.4 CPU underclocked)
C1E disabled
IESST disabled
Mem overide
REF 400
MEM 1333 (memory not overclocked)
vMEM 1,54 (default)
2)Mem overide
REF 400
MEM 1600
vMEM 1,82
Other settings+voltages default.
With these two steps I was able to put mobo to 1600. If I set all walues at once mobo not post. By these two steps it post, also acts stable enought to boot Windows, but not pass memtest :-(
I tried nearly everything. Changing memory voltages higher, loosing timigs to 8-8-8-24. But I still get so many erros in mem test, about 30000.
I returned this memory to manufacer, I get new pair (1,8V, 7-7-6-20) -> same error. Well, it must be definitively by hands!!!
I started experimenting with voltages and discovered that pusshing vMCH 1,25 -> 1,35V will eliminate a lot of errors and also big continuous error. After that there were 10 or 20 errors per pass, so much less. I also tryied vMCH 1,45V and vFSB 1.3V not helped. Much more helped experimenting with advanded timing. Very good result was 7-7-6-20|54-5-10-6-6. But I allways get mem error 0002b12336c 689,1MB. Always the same error more times. I nearly went again to shop to return this pair.
LUCKYLY I found comment from TONY on OCZ forum to try to change 400/1600 to 333/1333. I already noticed that it gives mem at same speed 1600, so it looked useless to me.
IT HELPED A LOT! (Memtest passes at default voltages.)
Right now I can pass memtest and running Windows somehow stable. (Mobo often not post after hard power off, also ramdom reboots)
QUESTION: Do you guys know difference between settings 400/1600 or 333/1333? Is the speed same?
What I noticed more, is that THERE IS NO VOLTAGE THAT YOU SET! This really shocked me. It can be by power suply. My PSU is Enermax 625W. I thought it is enough, but now I'll definitivaly buy new 1000W at least.
Without enabled Enhanced Power Slope(EPS) vCPU is set to 1,325V, but in reality I had 1,18V. In high load it also 0,02 goes down. With EPS there is 1,25 deaful CPU voltage. But it is still not 1,325V. Same situation with vMCH. Right now I have set it to 1,4, but in fact here is 1,31.
QUESTION: Is it mobo, PSU, Intel tring to protect components, or beta Control Center? Can you please some of you install iDesktop Center and check the vaules it if is not only my issue?
Right now I'm nearly stable with this settings:
vCPU 1,325
EPS enabled
C1E disabled
EIST disabled
multi 6x (2,4 CPU undeclocked)
FSB 400
vFSB 1,3
vMCH 1,4 (I discovered that increasing vMCH reduces reboots. On default settings it restart in about 10 minutes in Everest stress test. With higher Everest run 6 hours no restart, also pass memtest 2x)
REF 333
MEM 1333
7-7-6-20|72-5-10-6-6
vMEM 1,82V
CL Auto (1T)
I'm still having reboots in after about 6-10 hours. I can run mem test whole time, Everest stres test, no problems. System is stable, but while playing Winamp 8 hours it reboots, it is really weird. I think it is not Graphic card as I previously read. I run GPU benchamrks many times. Also ATI tool scan for artefacts, no problems.
QUESTION: Can some of you guys please post default values for Core 2 Extreme at 400FSB also with MEM settings?
If you guys will have some ideas please write. This forum really helped me. This mobo is like a woman... First you must compltely understeand it, then it allows you to touch the beauty :-)
the frequencies will be the same, but the motherboard has tighter latencies at 333/1333, so its overall speed might be a little faster. you'll want to run the lowest boot strap that you can hit stable. 333/1333 shouldn't be a problem for you at 400 FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by GumaLive
i'm eyeballing the Asus Rampage pretty hard lately. i might be leaving this club soon.
Thank you very much for that fast reply :-)
I also forget to post some screens. Actually I had reboot issue, so restarted :-/
That's great that it is a little faster :-)
I don't understead so much "you'll want to run the lowest boot strap that you can hit stable".
I can boot always to Windows without problems, when mobo post.
I now am sure Intel will let us out in the cold.
They have released IDCC v4.3.0.512 for DX58SO mobo, which probably means that IDCC v4.1.0.168 for our boards will never leave beta status as I expected. Also, I believe we can forget about new BIOS, they must all now be concentrated on DX58SO I guess.
Shame on you Intel, at least give us the long awaited new features. DX58SO has BIOS 2394 for starters. I guess we're stuck on 1814.
Funny thing is that DX58SO isn't mentioned on Intel website yet!!!
Guma, wellcome.
You put it right, this board really is like a woman, you gotta know how to deal with it. First, she needs some attention and dedication, and then she'll do what you want.
CPU voltage will always be lower than 1.325V, at first I was also picking on this setting. Never really understood it anyway, since all procs are rated lower than that if you check the box or Intel website.
I wouldn't say you need a new PSU, 625W should be enough, even with the single 4870.
Maybe 400 FSB is too much for you board, it's a matter of luck with each sample, although if you can hit it maybe it's good.
I am a nex dx48bt2-owner, and I've the first question. ;)
Can I trust the idcc-temperature? I've a q9300@2,66 running Boinc (dc), and it shows me around 37 degrees (C). I mean the CPU is watercooled, but this seems to be ab bit low for a quad at full load?
Hey friend, my temperature of CPU in idle is about 59 ºT. On load it is much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by redphil
I'm definitively confused with with these values in IDCC. What "ºT" means? Degree Temperature? As I know there is degree Celsius ºC, degree Farenheit ºF, degree Kelvin ºK, but never heard about ºT :-/
Also in IDCC my vCPU is now 1,18 even with enabled Enhaced power slope. BIOS settings 1,325. Before I had 1,25 with exactly same settings, which is OK.
I rather believe Everest which shows CPU temp 38ºC (cores about 45ºC). On load CPU temp is shown about 60ºC. Air cooled.
Guma
ºT is Thermal Margin, not actual temp. As I believe you know, Core procs provide not the actual die temperatura but rather the safe margin left to Tj, which by the way differs between different procs, usually is 105ºC or 95ºC. So, what you're actually seeing is the difference between your core temp and this Tj which is your safe temp margin, your temp can rise that much until the CPU throtlles down or shutdown.
It goes about right with the readings with Everest 59+38=97ºC which should be Tj (junction temp), give or take. Intel does not (I believe) provide the exact Tj for each proc, some people have tested and tried to get these values and found them accurate.
Regarding units, and this is just for info, don't take this wrong, degree Celsius and degree Farenheit is ok but you just don't use degree Kelvin, just Kelvin. It's a measure of absolute temperature, no negative numbers there. Just for info.
Hi,
The last time I built a PC, it was a 486 at 33MHz. This is my first post in this forum, if I did something wrong with posting here, please be gentle. :)
I am now in the middle of a Bonetrail/Conroe build up. And I have problems, :confused: and don't know where to turn. In addition to the Bonetrail and Conroe, I have two 250MB Samsung SATA drives, a CD/DVD drive, an Avermedia TV card, an EVGA GeForce 9500 video card, an Apevia case and 680 watt power supply, 2 GB of DDR3 RAM, and XP media center for the OS.
The assembly was a breeze, and not having to worry about the IRQ jumpers like on the 486 is nice. I loaded the OS from the CDROMs, and I don't recall having seen any problems. When I then got the OS going, I noted that only one of the hard drives was mapped, it was C:, the CD/DVD was D:.
So, to try to review or correct things, here is step 1-
With the OS running, here are the interesting observations:
Windows Task Manager, Networking Tab, shows "No Active Network Adapters Found."
System Properties, I go to Hardware, and bring up Device Manager.
Under Disk Drives, it shows that there are two SAMSUNG HD250HJ
Under "? Other Devices", it shows "? Ethernet Controller".
{the ? shows up as a bold yellow character}
When I double click on that, I see:
Device Type: Other devices
Manufacturer: Unknown
Location: PCI bus 0, device 25, function 0
for status, it tells me:
The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)
To reinstall the drivers, click Reinstall Driver.
When I click it, I am asked to insert an installation CD. I didn't get one with the Bonetrail board, the DX38BT.
Here is step 2, checking the OS load.
Thinking I have a problem with the OS, I put in the Windows XP Media Center Edition, disk 1
I run setup.exe there.
I get a GUI, Welcome to Microsoft Windows XP, with choices of "What do you want to do".
I click on Install optional Windows Components.
The following are checked: "Accessories and Utilities", "Internet Explorer", "Management and Monitoring Tools", "Networking Services", "Outlook Express", "Sonic DVD and CD Burning", "Update Root Certificates", "Windows Digital Media Enhancements", "Windows Media Player", "Windows Messenger". I click next, and finish, and it takes no time at all. Oh by the way, it says that IE will take 0.0MB, like it is already installed.
When I click on Start, I get the first choice of run options. It shows that I can go to the Internet with Internet Explorer, but the Icon I expect to see is not there. When I click on it, I am asked what I want to open that with, like Media Center, Notepad, Paint, etc.
When I reboot, I see
Marvell Adapter.....
Adapter 1
Disks Information
No hard disks detected.
then the Windows xP splash screen comes up.
Here is step 3, checking the BIOS.
Now I have rebooted again
So, here is some BIOS info:
BIOS Version BTX3810.J.86A.1554.2008.0501.1628
The Drive Configuration shows
SATA Port 0 SAMSUNG HD250HJ
SATA Port 1 SAMSUNG HD250HJ
SATA Port 2 Optiarc DVD RW A - ATAPI
Hard Disk Pre-Delay [0]
Hardware Monitoring
What is cool is that the BIOS reports that the processor temp is 47C, which looks close to the 40C on the meter on the front of the machine chassis.
V12 12.187V
V5 5.155V
V3.3 3.266V
V1.5 1.210V
Vccp 1.277V
Should V1.5 concern me?
What should I do at this point?
thanks,
Shemp
Hiya Shemp!
step 1
better to update your mobo BIOS to the latest 1814 version...
for OS install ONLY worry about CD/Intall drivers if the disk you are installing onto requires them, after the reboot, otherwise wait until after the OS is all up and running.
Most times the install drivers are still listed as 'F6" driver files even though in Vista/Windows 2008 they are not done this way... Its a carry over.
YES 1814 on the BIOS, AND if you have a USB keyboard DONOT ENABLED UEFI.
I'm posting update to my Overclocking experience.
I waas not able to keep mobo stable at 400, so I reverted BIOS settings to all default. (Load Optimal Defaults)
I'm running on all default values, but STILL having ramdom reboots. It's looking like some driver issue or HW problem.
I have Auzen X-FI Prelude 7.1 additional PCI soundcard. (Integrated disabled.)
PC, reboots while no activity. While playing MP3, or idle, once I connected USB device (on HW driver installation buble right low corner), and once when I just started Everest.
This is totally weird. I don't think it's HW issue because, reboots would be more regular, related to some activity (heat or load).
I also tryed installing ATI Catalyst drivers 8.7. No result.
To Shemp
Step 1:
Your hard drives are installed OK. You see only one because the second have not created any
partition.
Click Start -> Run -> Enter "diskmgmt.msc". Here you shoud see both your drives and you are
able to create partition.
"No Active Network Adapters Found" is beacause you don't have installed network driver.
Doesn't care about CD, just visit support.intel.com and download all drivers for your mobo.
Step 2:
IE has 0,0 because it's part of OS.
"Marvell Adapter.....
Adapter 1
Disks Information
No hard disks detected."
This is OK, it tells you that you have not conected anything to old ATA interface. Your HDDs
are connected on SATA ports.
Step 3:
"BTX3810.J.86A.1554.2008.0501.1628"
You should update your BIOS to 1814. You will find it on web page with drivers
support.intel.com.
Your voltages looks better than mine(Everest):
+1,5V 1,1589
+3,3V 3,1797
+5V 5,0 OK
+12V 12,0 OK
The 3,3 is also why I think I have ramdom reboots. Can somebody confirm please?
Guma
Yes, your volts are too low, maybe that's the problem.
Also, I'd remove the Auzen Prelude card just to make sure it isn't some kind of conflict, maybe this board doesn't like that card. Or try different PCI slots or IRQs.
Hmm.
Currently there is no BIOS listings for the board at Intel's site. Wonder if they are preparing for another release?
Quote:
Originally Posted by HighTest
Just noticed that too...it was there around 11 am Pacific time.
I thought the same thing. It's been like this for about 15 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean-E-Boy
:rolleyes:
1893 is up for download...
Have these guys at Intel been sleeping? Have you seen the changes, after over 2 months since te last one?
Seems they fixed the issue of no boot after power failure, at least they say they did. Said it before I believe and it's still there though.
Haven't tried it yet, downloaded just now.
I guess the last fix was the hardest, changing the text in BIOS from 1.5V to 1.2V in HW monitor.
The first one is also a joke, nobody uses XTU (I assume this is eXtreme Tunning Utility) with this board I believe, IDCC would be the correct tool here. Anyway, IDCC hasn't changed, still v4.1.0.168 as before.
Anyone tried the new BIOS? Post your comments.
I updated to this bios and all is well.
One issue I have had since I switched cases is that there is a long lag after waking from standby with the USB mouse (IE. you have to wait about 5-10 seconds before the mouse will move at the logon prompt). I don't know if I plugged into a different port or what. I tried moving devices around, but I still get the same lag. Never did that before.
Ideas?
Also,
I dropped from a 10X multiplier to 9X, and pushed the FSB up to 400. So, now I'm at 3.6 versus 3.8 with higher FSB, but I dropped the CPU voltage down to 1.35 from 1.375, and may try a little more. Seems to prime out okay.
XTU (eXtreme Tunning Utility) is a service that will be installed and enabled with IDCC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
You are correct Mahyar, I've checked the service running.
I was thinking it was the earlier Intel tool for older boards. What was it called? It was something similar I believe. Or am I mixing things up?!
Randy, you say it was after switching cases? That's odd, the case shouldn't have anything to do with the USB devices. Did you also update the BIOS or any driver at the time? Do you have UEFI enabled in BIOS? Disable it if you do.
So, with this BIOS you can actually raise your FSB higher to 400? Could you also with the earlier or was it an improvement?
Can you please check if the mem timings had any changes in BIOS? Is tRD/Performance Level already available?
I'll be testing it tonight on both the x38 and x48 boards.
Not a newbie, but a long time lurker. I just installed the new bios. Can't say as it went well. I question the XTU reference, as now I must disable the XTU service to make XP boot. Interestingly enough I have a dual boot DX48BT2 and the Vista partition suffered no such ill. Has anyone else had problems with XTU?
Well,Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
what happened is that I have every USB port used, and I plugged them in to different ports when I reassembled the system. So when I booted up, each device had to be reinstalled by Windows, and that's where the problem began.
Memory timings are still 7-7-6-18 @ 1T, but now running where it should be - 1600. And yes, it appears I can now run the FSB up to 400, where I always had issues above 385 or so. I doubt this bios had anything to do with it, but I loaded the XMP profile first, which set the memory @ 1333, and then upped the CPU FSB to get to 1600. I could not get the XMP profile to work with any other bios.
Randy
Maybe you could try (if you haven't already) unplugging the USB devices you don' t really need for normal operation (leave only kb and mouse maybe) and try booting and see if anything changes. Maybe it has to do with the limited available power to the USB ports. You can check in Device Manager the USB Root Hub for each port if the current being drawn isn't over the limit, usually 500mA I believe.
Good to know that some mem improvements (long promised and overdue) might have made it to this release.
djs, welcome.
Bad news for you I guess, and all of us for that matter. Intel will not asure IDCC working with the latest 1893 BIOS, not for the latest IDCC v4.1.0.168. Check it out in the IDCC download page:
10/9/2008 NOTE: BIOS version 1814 is compatible with the 4.1.0.168 beta, but newer BIOS versions are NOT. This is currently being addressed and this site will be updated when a newer compatible BIOS becomes available.
Let's hope Intel engineers work fast with a new IDCC version, and that this time it will not be a beta version but finally a stable version. It's been hard to get there.
Anyone checked if the no boot after power failure is finally solved yet?
gtj, what's your opinion so far, tried it yet?
Manel,
what chipset driver version are you using, and do you use standby/sleep mode ?
Man, don't ask about chipset drivers, not even Intel knowa which are the right ones.
We've had this discussion here before, some people are using the ones on the mobo CD, others are using the ones on Intel website. Can't remember exactly now which I'm using but I believe the ones on the CD. Let me just check.
I have 8.3.1.1003 dated 5/1/2007, on Intel website it's 8.3.1.1010 dated 10/2/2007. I also have SMBus driver 2.0, which I believe was installed with IDCC, some people don't have this. If you go back in the thread you can read all about this and all the issues, can't remember exactly now. There is some contradictory information in Intel documentation regarding these chipset drivers and which are the correct ones, but now they mention DX38BT and DX48BT2 specifically in the download description. However, if I remember correctly, in the readme file there was no mention to these boards or something.
Regarding sleep/standby I have no issues, why do you ask? I believe some folks had problems here, not sure if the latest BIOS versions fixed it, I can't remember having any issues ever though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
Thanks for the reply. The reason I ask about the chipset drivers is I wondered if my usb wake up lag might be related to the chipset drivers.
Oh well, no big deal, as I'm really pleased with the performance now where I'm at again. Hopefully, this rig will toll me over until the X58 is out - but not likely.
I have 2 OS (XP & Vista) installed with this board too.Quote:
Originally Posted by djs357
And I had and have many problems with the XTU service.
I have to reinstall the IDCC several times in a month (it depends),
the XTU service stops responding and I think it sets a flag that stops the service from running again even after reboot...
so I should reinstall it again.
I also got "Error 1053: The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion" so many times, that forced me to extend Services maximum start time to 3mins.
Currently I have uninstalled IDCC from my Vista because of some doubts I have.
I impatiently wait for stable version of IDCC...
Mahyar.FF, I just uninstelled the thing now and So far I haven't had and failed boots. I'm hoping to try to get this board stable at 3.6GHz again. This Bios didn't offer much and I still don't trust my OCZ Titanium memory. This board /memory combo has been random since I turned it on 4 months ago. The removal of IDCC seams to have helped. I know it was a source of randomness on my last system, a 975BX2, but the I never had such solid evidence as after installing this Bios update.
Randy, I've been looking at the readme for the chipset drivers available in Intel website and they do mention a possible problem with USB after driver install. They refer to a couple of MS QFEs to solve these issues, although this is from a year back and it could happen in XP SP1, I imagine those problems would be solved in SP2 and SP3 I guess. Anyway, you might want to take a look at it. What version have you installed?
Will you switch to X58 once it's out? Looks promising but I don't know. I guess now those DDR3-2000+ are not needed for some time at least. Wasted bandwidth with triple channel. Anyway, X58 is just around the corner, less than a month I guess till you can have one.
djs, are you sure the problem is with the mem? I had a whole lot of trouble with these Titanium at first, but that was due to the early BIOS version that came with the board. As soon as I flashed to a more recent one it has worked like a charm for me, latencies are low, mem is fast and stable. I just wish the required voltage was lower, but haven't tried the minimum though. What's your setup? Maybe it's something else that's giving you a headache, PS maybe?
Well guys I updated BIOS to 1893 and it freezed at "Flashing main firmware ..." After 15 minutes of waiting I reset(pressed reset) the computer. Then blank screen. In about 1 minute PC booted againg from Flash boot CD. Now BIOS update was sucessfull.
Very nice recovery mechanizm :-) Note the jumper was still in Normal position.
I was finally able to stabilize my system at 1333 MHz with default settings.
It was needed to increase vMEM from default 1,54V to 1,62V. Now system is stable at default vaules and clocks.
But when I try to reach 1600 FSB I'm getting ramdom reboots, mainly at some stress test like HiperPI or Prime95.
My settings:
vCPU: 1,325V
EnhancedPS: On
vMCH: 1,45V
vFSB: 1,3V
multi: 6x (CPU underclocked at 2,4GHz)
FSB: 400
C1E: off
IESST: off
--
REFfreq: 333
MEMfreq: 1333 (400\1600 will give me Memtest errors)
Timings: 7-7-6-20 (also tryed 7-7-7-28 and 8-8-8-28 same situation)
Advanced timings: 72-5-10-6-6 1T
vMEM: 1,82V (1,78 gives me errors in Prime and HiperPI; 1,86 and 1,9V causes ramdom reboots to come faster in stress test)
The settings pass Memtest, but I'm gettings reboots :-(
Intel® Matrix Storage Technology (RAID) driver version 8.6.0.1007 available at Intel's site.
BIOS ver. 1893 looks stable, but nothing new... Only1.5=1.2?
Manel, thanks for the response. I have been bumping BIOS since the start of this, would never have gotten this far elsewise. I don't think the PSU is the issue, Corsair HX620. I only have 1 HD3870. Thermals unlikely also Fanned to death and a Gemini2 on my E8400. Still not sure though, I had it running at 3.6GHz for awhile, then the random reboots started. Cranked back to 3.3GHz. Mem is 7-7-7-20-2T 1.66v TRFC=60, seems to have stabilized the last issue I was having with hardware VT-x VMs crashing the system with BSOD. Have done some VMCH and Vcore bumps, but am not so inclined. I just would be happy if it stays stable.
Will there ever be a stable version of IDCC (Intel Desktop Control Center) or even IDU (Intel Desktop Utility)? Also, If you read the release notes from the Intel website about Extreme Tuning Utility, it doesn't get along well with various IDCC versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahyar.FF
What is specificially mentioned in the release notes are the following fixes:Quote:
Originally Posted by petr0id
• Fixed issue preventing processor multiplier update from XTU.
• Fixed issue where system power on fails after AC loss.
• Fixed an issue where the Flag was being set that Watchdog timer
had fired.
• Fixed BIOS Setup in the Hardware Monitoring page, the 1.5v rail
text was changed to 1.2v.
So there was a little more than just the monitoring page text changes. I also suspect that there was more involved in the BIOS, but not mentioned in the release notes as some are reporting improved memory results.
I'll be doing some testing myself later this week and will let you know the results. But so far, so good.
Hey all! I have been stalking the XS forums for years. I just now needed to sign up. There is such a wealth of info here I have never needed to ask a question. Anyway
I have a DX48BT2, Core2Quad 9650, 2x4870, and 2gb DDR3. I have my cpu watercooled under a 320mm DD rad and a Dtek fusion block. I can not get this thing past 3.4GHz. Even there I have some issues. I have the newest bios. I have tried everything I can think of to get this mobo to overclock. I have a fan on my northbrigde so its not that holding it back.
Can anyone help me out here?
Edit: I also have Kingston HyperX memory and it will not run at stock timings stable.
How are your temperatures? The IDCC shows only the difference to the maximum temperature, and it doesn't show the temperatures of each single core.
I had the problem that my watercooled q9300 wasn't running stable @3Ghz/increased voltage. Yesterday I used CPUID HWMonitor to find out that one of the cores was getting really hot under full load.
core temps are 51 51 43 43 at load at 3.4 stock voltage. I have a 120mm fan blowing over the northbridge and mosfits to cover the lose of air that would come from a cpu cooler.
The memory timings bothers me as well. Even at everything stock I can not pass one loop of Memtest86. I have to raise the timings to get the errors to go away.
djs, have you considered bad hardware? I mean, maybe your CPU won't hold it while in stress, or other components for that matter. Do you have another CPU laying around or that you can borrow, and a grphics card that you can swap in just to check how it behaves with this board. Or maybe it's the board itself that is not 100% ok and you can RMA. This is one tough board to get up and running.
Zardoc, I have said too many times as well, I believe we'll never have a stable (non-beta) version of IDCC. Too bad, I even like the thing. Now with he DX58SO all the attention will go for it I guess and Intel guys will leave us hanging. Even new BIOS versions will be (even more) scarce I believe.
HT, have you tested the new version already? Let us know regarding the "systems power fails after power loss" bug if it's corrected, I assume it's the issue when, if you remove power to the board it won't boot the first time, right? I wonder if that's finally fixed. If it is, congrats Intel, that was about time.
Hey Bob, welcome. You know, quads are not so easily oc'ed, high FSBs are hard to get. You mention 3.4G but at what FSB freq, and what voltages? How are your mem dividers and voltage?
Manel,
I have been stable at 3.3GHz since my last go around. I am running nearly stock voltages only the DDR3 is bumped to 1.66v. I am not compelled to push it further. It is running great for now. Way more finicky than my 975bx2, but more than adequate.
Thanks.
BTW what voltages are you running?
Hey all, been a while since ive been on here and some things have changed.
Ditched the q6700 for a q9550 E0, turned out to be a slight headache upon install.
Prior to, i set the bios (1814 at the time, 1893 came out the next day) back to default values for voltages, etc. tossed in the q9550 and got 3 pulses of the fans and lights upon power up then it shut down and was dead. Called Intel, and to my surprise, they painlessly issued an RMA and a week later had a replacement board.
Updated new board to 1893, and after some playing got the limits:
My FSB seems to be the limiting factor, with a max FSB of 475x6 @1.5v FSB and had to bump the MCH to 1.5 to be stable there. mem @ 800x400
After increasing the multi, made it to 475x8.5, or 4.0375Ghz @ 1.4125 vcore (default 1.325, core VID in CPU-z 1.250) with FSB and MCH both at 1.5
Now working on more conservative every day use settings. dropped to 460x8.5 @1.3875 and still working on memory (trying to remember how all this mem reference x mem freq works and the best way to step up through it).
Saw a strange thing, changed mem settings, failed to boot, went into maintenance mode, changed back, rebooted, entered setup to check settings, exited, went into OS and everything seemed to be fine. checked cpu-z and to my surprise, was running at 333x8.5 even though in BIOS was at 460x8.5. had to change bios settings around a few times, but it eventually worked its way out.
What have you guys seen as the max mem frequency with this board? saw 1760mhz (1333x333) with defaults while increasing FSB at 6x multi.
djs, running all stock right now, no oc, only vMem at 1.78V for my Titaniums.
Have to flash to 1893 and give it a go again some day, when I have the time.
Good to know your setup is running ok.
Yeah, all seems good. I had issues at the higher mem voltages. They seem to like this voltage. Let me know if you decide to give yours a push.
TheBob,
If you can provide us with a more-or-less step-by-step list of the methods you used to reach the wall you are currently at, we will be better able to help you figure out what is holding you back.
There is also a great post related to determining limits for you setup earlier in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=851
Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum and I've been reading this thread since I have a DX48BT2 too. I have a little concern about my processor's temperatures. I'm currently running the following:
- Intel DX48BT2. BIOS 1893.
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz.
- Zalman 9500 AT.
- Cooler Master Blue Ice SLC-S41-U1-GP 40mm fan.
- OCZ Platinum 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 7-6-6-24 (OCZ3P1600EB4GK).
- Diamond Radeon HD 4870 GDDR5 1GB.
- Creative Fatal1ty XtremeGamer Pro.
- Thermaltake ThoughPower 650w.
- Thermaltake M9 with clear side.
And the OC settings are the following:
* CPU Voltage Override: 1.3500v
* CPU Voltage Offset: DISABLED
* Enhanced Power Slope: DISABLED
* Front Side Bus Voltage Override: 1.325
* MCH/ICH Voltage Override: 1.400
* Processor Multiplier: 9.5
* Host Clock Frequency: 400
* NEW SPEED: 3.8GHz
* C1E: DISABLED
* EIST: DISABLED
* Reference Frequency: 400MHz
* Memory Frequency: 1600MHz
* Timmings: 7-6-6-24
* Advanced: 60-4-10-5-5
* Memory Voltage: 1.90
* Commmand Rate: 1T
* CPU Stepping: C0/M0
Idle:
CPU: 38C.
Core #0: 42C.
Core #1: 48C.
Full Load:
CPU: 60C.
Core #0: 63C.
Core #1: 66C.
Temperatures were taken from Everest Ultimate Edition 4.60.
memtest86 2.01 all-tests: PASSED. No errors.
prime95 Small-FFT Test @ 30min: PASSED. 0 errors - 0 warnings.
prime95 Custom @ 8hours: PENDING.
3DMark06 score: 14991.
The only thing I'm missing is the long prime95 test which I'll be running tonite.
My main concern as I said is the CPU temperatures, I'm not sure if they are good or way too high.
I live in South America so ambient temperatures are hot, around 30C to 36C in my room, 20s with the AC on.
The other thing is that the case where this components are is small (Thermaltake V9) and the Radeon HD 4870 gets hot like an oven (70C to 85C), I can prolly bake cookies on it. The thermalpaste (Artic Silver) is well applied and the Zalman 9500 AT is properly installed.
Any bits will be appreciated and thanks in advance. :)
TAM.
Hey Tam
Welcome to the thread.
I have high temps as well, but it's worse for me I guess, mine are in the low 40's (41-42ºC) at idle and 70'ish at load. Same as yours more or less but mine is an E8200 at stock at the moment. I believe it's the thermal paste and cooler (standard Intel) that are not that great but still I find it too high. Guess I'll have to take the time and re-seat the proc and apply new paste.
Anyway, your temps, considering your running oc'ed and at higher voltage don't seem too bad, even with the Zalman. The fact that your case is small (is it well ventilated?) and the 4870 heating things up won't help a bit. Are these temps measured in the room with the AC on or off? Maybe you can try removing the mobo from the case and turn the AC on and check the temps, just to make sure that it's not your case or vid card that's making the proc temp so high. Don't just open the case side panel, that will just hinder airflow, put the board in a cool place.
By the way, where in South America do you live? Brasil?
Well, the case is well ventilated, it has 2x120mm fans, one in the front and one in the back, enough to cycle hot air. And about the Radeon, I enabled CCC's overclock function and increased the video card's fan speed and now it's running at 50C; the processor temperatures dropped a little bit:
Full Load:
CPU: 55C.
Core #0: 58C.
Core #1: 62C.
Temperatures were taken with the AC on and it's on all the time. The AC reports 68F room temperature (20C).
I ran prime95 long test for 4 hours and had no errors or warnings so I guess the OC settings are rock stable atm, still, I might run it again from 8 to 12 hours.
And I'm in Venezuela atm.
Thanks for replying. :)
TAM.
Well, I don't really think those temps are too high, not sure anyone gets a lot lower than that, without any alternate cooling that is.
Your 4870 must sound like a jet now, or is it quiet enough? From what I read they're either too hot or too loud.
There's a lot of people here from Venezuela and the other way around. Nice and warm there, right?
Have you guys seem the screenshots for Windows 7 already? Ugly beast there, come on Micro$oft, you can di better. Looks a lot like one of the Linux distros - sorry you Linux fanatic guys, but it sucks.
I remember the initial shots of Vista were very similar, very washed out interface and now it's very cool. At least for me. I can almost see everyone throwing rotten tomatoes at me now but, apart from all the bloat and old files you can still find in Vista that still come from way back, it's a nice OS. Don't get me wrong, I do like Unix (and it's flavours) but the geek era is now gone.
I just feel MS is going after all the others instead of sticking with their own ideas, I really don't like the way it looks right now. Anyway, it'll probably change and will look better in the final release.I hope they don't go with the KDE/Gnome look, it's horrible (for me).
Everyone seems to hate MS these days, but everyone uses their products, although there are similar free products. I know the feeling, I work for a big multinational company myself and everybody loves to hate the brand, the products/services are always too expensive.
Anyway, enough talk. Anyone installed the beta Windows 7? How does it feel?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tam
I wouldn't worry about 55 at full load. And Low to mid 40's for an average cooler on the OC you have is probably about right.
Hey Tam,
I have also OCZ3P1600EB4GK memory, but I'm not able to put my system to 1600 FSB :-(
I would like to ask you if your memory worked for you on 1st time? Just inserted, switched settings and everything was OK?
And is your memory in blue or black sockets?
Also what is the result of Prime?
I used same settings as you, but I get ramdom reboots and with exactly same settings I'm not able to pass memtest. Right now I'm solving it with OCZ tech support and it seems that one module is faulty.
does any one have seen any improve on 1893 bios? does it worth?
sorry my bad english xd
Yeah, I haven't flashed to 1893 either yet.
Can anyone at least confirm if the issue with the power off and no boot afterwards is solved? From the list of fixes it seems so but that has happened in the past and it's still there.
Also, any differences in the mem settings? Few months back Tony said some improvements were on the way, including control of the tRD/Perf Level but so far nothing. Is it there yet, anyone?
I can run a 400FSB with this bios, and I choked after 380 before. Also, I can use the XMP profile, where it hasn't worked in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
That's good news Randy, I guess I'll have to give it a try. It seems there was serious tweaking after all, maybe this is what Tony was up to with Intel. Can you confirm if tRD is available in this new BIOS already?
What about the power off issue, can anyone confirm if it's fixed already?
Hey bro,Quote:
Originally Posted by GumaLive
afaik, you gotta change the processors FSB to be able to run the memories at 1600. If you only changed the settings of the memories I doubt they are gonna work. Not sure about this, somebody else correct me if I'm wrong. My memories, since they are DDR3-1600, they are on the black slots (if you read the yellow paper that comes with the motherboard it says DDR3-1600 memories are only supported on the black slots, channel A and B DIMM socket 1).
If you can provide more information on what you are trying to do it will be helpful. Post your bios settings too.
About the bios version 1893, I've been running it since I got the board and I haven't experienced any reboots or any malfunction on it, it's running pretty smooth. The only setting I saw that isn't working well is C1E, even when it's off it keeps modifying my multipliers value but since I only turn it off to run benchmarks and tests it doesn't bother me.
Manel, I only changed the video card's fan speed enough to be quiet and to decrease the temperature, it's at 35% fan speed (20% is the stock speed) and now the card it's at 40C @ idle, 50C @ full load. And yeah, Venezuela is pretty good, I just wish the political situation changes soon enough.
Everything is running well but it takes to long for the NIC to make a connection with my internet in comparison to my Asus sytem. Both plugged into the same router. I boot the Asus and I'm online in a very short time...when I boot the DX48BT2 it takes a long time to initiate a connection.
- Clean installation of Vista 64 bit ultimate in each
- Same router
- Different processors and Ram but I don't see how that would make a difference in connection to the internet?
Hey all,
Its been awhile since I've been on this thread. My DX38BT is still alive, kicking, and 100% stable. What i'm curious on is if the latest BIOS is worth flashing? I havnt updated since June or July. More importantly, i was wondering if the latest BIOS lets you set more memory settings like tRD?
Thanks
edit: oh i see now that tRD still not in :( :(
@Think: I think it depends on the board...I have an dx38bt and recently had to RMA...the first one was connected almost immediately...could open a web page as fast as i could open IE after boot, but now the replacement takes ~5-10 sec after boot to connect.
@Miwo: if you plan on updating BIOS, be sure you have a copy of your current that you can rollback to...I tried to use MemSet on 1893, but shows MCHBar as locked, not sure if this is a BIOS change or, since i never tried MemSet before, if i just dont know how to unlock it.
Have you guys seen the Intel DX58SO SmackOver board? Looks nice, much like ours.
Still, Intel hasn't gone with a full solid state caps and there are also a few old design chokes as well. Fan headers are red/orange and I can't see the EPS12V plug anymore, there's the Molex one though.
The heatsinks are blue with the skull logo, although there's no more bone or skull mention in the board's name.
Layout is very similar, haven't learned that the audio connectors are in a bad place, my case cables aren't long enough.
There's a 8lane PCIe instead of an 16lane, the other 2 PCIe 16x are still there.
The 4 DIMMs is a bit of a let down.
four DIMMs on an X58 board? i thought they all had six DIMMs for tri-channel memory. doesn't matter - i don't think Intel has to worry about me ever buying another one of their motherboards anyway. i bought a Gigabyte yesterday and my Bone Trail is going into a new HTPC.
Too bad, this could be really the greatest mobo.
After all, it's not a PCIe 8x but 4x, but with a retention mechanism as well, odd. Placement of this is separate from the connector it seems. Why not a full x16, even if electrically 4x?
2 PCIe x1 is good, and finally PCI is going, only 1 this time.
Still I believe Intel should have used newer chokes and loose the electrolytic capacitors altogether, I know most of it is hype but at least it lokks better, and performance is better as well and lifespan.
Hey x
So, you finally gave up your Bone, hum?! Too bad.
Yes, only four DIMMs, go figure. Also, no SLI for Intel, at least for now. Too bad.
Gaming sucks on this mobo... at low res at least. Other than that looks good, only Asus better as usual.
Intel will never be in the same league. Can't they hire some guys that know OC and board tweaking and designing?
...probably a bios change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean-E-Boy
Keep us posted on the new board. I am already seeing X58's available on Ebay, so it won't be long to get to the retailers. I think the Asus P6T will be my next board, along with the Nehalem Extreme. I will probably drive over the Bonetrail with my minivan.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex