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ASUS P5Q Deluxe BIOS build 0706
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jVIDIA i'll update later. For now:
ASUS P5Q Deluxe BIOS build 0706
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Thx Pmp :) will test and compare tonite (soz mate was abroad)
Gonna set my board up tonight, what bios should i be using? This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Yip I've a pair of 36gb Raptors running fine in RAID 0 in mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobn4burton
Cheers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
If ya wanna play safe use 0610 or 0704... those are the official ones... This 0706 is beta still ( I think ) but has been proven to be a good performer with the P5Q-E (same bios slightly different board)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumid
P5Q-E is ICS9LPRS918BKL setfsb. use it all the time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beleno
Any word on the changes from 0704 to this new 0706?Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Prolly the same as the other boards : Here are the words of our GOD pmp :Quote:
Originally Posted by khaydin
USB resume after S3 fix, some EZRaid mods, minor DIMM driving changes
Oooo maybe my ram will be overclockable with the Dimm driving changes, can't even get my ram to 1080mhz without dumping tons of voltage into it when I know these modules are capable of a bit more with much less voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
odd... im running mine @ 1200 right now 2.2v on 704 :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by khaydin
Yeah no noticeable changes from what I can see at this early stage. Memory bandwidth is exactly the same as with 0702 and 0704, PL 13 is still the default PL at 1:1, and still can't go below 10 at 1:1.
What are your ram timings? Did you have to drop them to 6-6-6-20 or something to that effect? I used to hit 1100mhz @ 2.15v and 1150 @ 2.18v using 5-5-5-15 on my old 680i board. I can't even get 1080mhz to successfully finish any memory stressing @ 2.25v on this board with all the memory enhancing stuff turned off. It MIGHT be that i have to drop the PL to 11 but I don't think I want to do that. I'm gonna see if I can do 8x500mhz with a PL of 9 like Leeghoofd and Mumid used a few pages back. I'd be happy with that performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
All I wanted was to have PL=7 @450fsb !
PL=8 @ 450fsb sucks big time :(
pmp, do you know where are the reading points for the SBridge Voltage and PCIE SATA Voltage (if they exist :D) ?
thats not that possible with a 1:1 ratio on your mems :?
Try keeping your strap at 333. then select the memory speeds after that.
strap 333 = 7 Pl and if your mem can handle it 6.
strap 266 = 6pl and sometimes 5
strap 200 = pl 5
5-5-5-18 trfc 55Quote:
Originally Posted by khaydin
trfc 55 was the key to clocking it up that hight though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi2
Nope .... at least not with 2x2GB :shrug:
Hey guys!
i'm going to pick my p5q deluxe right now...
i am the first brazilian to use this mobo :D :up: :rofl:
8800gts in da house yet :P
Damn, another new bios to test already.
Anyway, this mobo does indeed prefer higher FSB for Everest.
These are not meant to be record breaking screenies...just me comparing some numbers of these two options for me to run 24/7 stably:
8x438 = 3504 MHz 5:6 DDR2-1051 5-5-5-15 tRD 8 pull-in enabled
vs.
10x350 = 3500 MHz 2:3 DDR2-1050 5-5-5-15 tRD 6 pull-in enabled.
All subtimings were set very loose manually, not auto, so the main difference in scores is due to FSB & tRD (what i was comparing).
I'll worry about tightening them later for better scores.
http://picsorban.com/upload/r-7976 w...n enabled).jpg
http://picsorban.com/upload/r-8407 w...n enabled).jpg
I figured that at least with tRD lower 10x350 2:3, it'd be better latency, but nope.
8x438 5:6 wins pretty clearly, at least in Everest.
hello everyone, have a serious problem with this board, this thing wont boot if i install ram on the right set of ram slots. i have 4 1gb ocz ddr2 1100 modules and 2 supertalent ddr2 800 1gb modules. i have tried installing 1 or 2 modules on the left set of ram slots and it boots just fine, i have tried installing all of my 6 modules one at a time and 2 at a time on the right slots and it just wont boot. installing one on the left and one on the right wont boot as well. have tried 0702, 0704, 0706 bioses but none of them fixes the problem. this is my second board, i returned the first one cause it had the same problem. can anyone help me find out what might be causing the problem? could it be the rams? or psu?
q6700, 3 hd's (took 2 off), a dvdrw drive, 8800gtx, xfi platinum.
So maybe I found someone with similar problems with an ASUS P5Q and a WD harddisk.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobn4burton
I use a P5Q-E (BIOS 0706) and one of the two hdds:
1. Seagate 320GB ST3320620AS
2. WD6400AAKS 640GB
I started clocking my X3350 with the seagate hdd, reached fsb 490MHz, was happy and started looking for 24/7 stable settings@3600MHz. No problems at all. Just a lot boot cycles because I could lower most voltages and still get prime95 running stably.
Then I took the seagate out and put the wd hdd in - no boot (power led is lit but no post screen). Seagate back in the pc - boots with no problem at all. wd - no go.
In a german forum some users answered to my post there that they have no problem with the same 640GB wd hdd an their ASUS P5Q-RPO, but the PRO is more different to my P5Q-E than your P5Q Deluxe is to my P5Q-E.
If you find a solution please post it here.
Are there firmware updates to wd hdds?
regards
mibo
K Unhook all drives, DVD Roms...set bios to default plz...Quote:
Originally Posted by jordinho
put one dimm on the right hand black slot... does it post ? if yes add another dimm in the right hand yellow slot... I tried all combo's here with the 4gb kits, because your case intrigues me... with one, two or 4 dimms the mobo posts no matter if I fill up the slots first from the right or from the left or mix them up to stay dual channel... I have high suspicion maybe one of the dimms is flakey... I would test them one by one... also do you force any settings in the bios for the ram ? It certainly is not your board as your replacement one acts in the same manner... could be an incompatability or a bad dimm or bad setting or a combo of all...
News on the 0706 ?
@lee ill do all that when i get home, could it be a possibility that my psu is causing the problem? im using a pcp&c 510 watt psu. but i had no problems with it when it was on my old motherboard (ga-965p-ds3, everything on my pc is old exept for the new motherboard)
Seems with me if I leave LLC at auto that it is enabled, I need to force via disable to have the droop/drop... can anyone verify this plz...Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
For the ram/speed initial quick tests seem to reveal no performance jumps with me...
Bios seems to recover better here (not always resetting to default)...
I had no problems with setting this board up with components in sig, flashed straight to 704 official bios. LLC @ Auto set it to enabled. Had to manually turn it off.
Quick first test: running PL8 at 400fsb 1:1 at stock VID. Doesnt look too bad so far:
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/3/2/3dfa6487...6070681att.jpg
Will test more over the weekend :up:
For anyone concerned with DPC latency on this board, this is what mine looks like in XP 32.
http://pix.nofrag.com/1/e/f/2c1e0207...a972c379ad.bmp
NOTE: I had to disable Network port 2 in the bios (its the network card that uses the PCI bus, rather than the PCI-Express bus) as this was causing some DPC latency spikes.
Why disable LLC ? :confused:
Because it was actually making my voltage go up under load. Set it to 1.15, it was idling at 1.128 and going up to 1.136 when under load.Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
Besides, I think mobos are supposed to have some vdrop/droop so I prefer LLC off.
I understand the safety reasoning behind allowing vdroop, but i prefer to have LLC enabled.
If not, then i have higher temps & voltage idling, which is a waste of everything, & lower voltage under load, when it's actually needed.
Right now i run 1.4v set in bios, which reads as 1.39v idle, 1.4v load (LLC enabled of course)
On my previous DFI it was actually around 1.375v idle to 1.4v load, but again, i prefer a lower idle voltage + higher voltage under load rather than higher idle & lower load.
Each to their own though...
I just take my mobo, but I am without thermal past :( .. so, I believe i will not test today this mobo.
I am the first Brazilian to take this mobo: D
the best bios, for now?
tried unhooking everything. (only video card cpu and ram left, restored defaults) still no go. tried all 6 modules one at a time yellow and black slots. going to try buying a new psu. any other suggestions would be most appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
So the pc doesn't even boot with one dimm in onez of the right dimm slots ? The pc no longer posts with one dimm installed at all ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jordinho
I really think a) you got a hardware incompatability here or you got the same dud board back as before... with ram in the 2 left hand slots it works ? did you try upping NB voltage ? setting Dimm voltage at the correct value ?
Can you plz fill in this template and send it to me plz so I can check what is set and what not :
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf
And list all ya hardware plz...
I guys,
with my p5q deluxe I can't boot over 580 fsb (with a e8500)
I have tried some setting with no result
Can I help me?:D
thanks
fill in the template, and list ya hardware plz... we got nothing to work with here :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by diablos
q6700, 8800gtx, 4gb ocz rams, 2gb supertalent rams(for testing, works fine on my 965p board), xfi platinum, liteon dvdrw, currently trying to install 74gb raptor, 2x 500gb seagate (spare 74gb and 150gb raptors), pc power and cooling 510 sli psu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
this would really suck if this board i got is another dud. damnit :(
ASUS P5Q DLX Template :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: AUTO
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Precharge: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.08
NB Voltage: AUTO
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
ocz 700wattQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
e8500
corsair dominator 2*1gb 8500
watercooling
ASUS P5Q DLX Template :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 6
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 580
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1160
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level (try from 12 to 18)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1,3000
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: (try 1,5 to 1,6)
FSB Termination Voltage: (try auto and from 1,1 to 1,9)
DRAM Voltage: 2,2
NB Voltage: (1,50 with more or less the system can't stat up)
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enable
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Guys..
i have one question here..
i'm mouting my p5q deluxe, and i don't know what cable i have to connect of this plug!! my psu don't have this connector!
sorry about the quality of picutre, i just take this picture right now with my cell phone..
Your PSU doesn't have the 8 pin mobo connector mate, mostly it will run just fine but might be required for some beefy overclocking action... only one way to find out and is to give it a shot
So, with this psu i will not have this problem???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004
Try your PSU first mate no need to cash out when it's not required... could work just fineQuote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
But i'm afraid to use this cooler master extreme power in this new pc...
now i will play with 8800gts 512mb...
it's much to this psu in my seen..
LLC enabled here doesn't make those flutuations!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumid
There must be something wrong in your system.
was a typo he pm'd me, but can you confirm at auto setting with the latest bios that it's automatically enabled... mine is... auto before was LLC disabled
Quick question I installed the P5Q deluxe and everything booted. Now I am trying to 4.0Ghz 400FSB 10 Multi my QX9650 requires alot more voltage than the ones I am seeing here 1.4875. I can get the board to boot however after 25 ,imutes of Prime 95 blend or Small FFT's the computer freezes. I am using PL level 10. Is there something that would usually cause tthe system to freeze. I started getting rounding errors so I bumped up the voltage no more rounding errors just screen freeze. Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
CPU QX9650
OCZ PC9200
Windows Vista 64
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: moderate
AI Transaction Booster: manual 10
CPU Voltage: 1.40625v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34v
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.26v
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration:--enable
CPU Clock Skew : delay 400ps
NB Clock Skew : delay 100ps
Try these plz and see if it's stable
You prolly got unlucky if you really require plus 1.4volts for the Qx mate... try 3.6Ghz first and try to report the lowest possible Vcore that it remains stable... I hope you can do it around 1.2volts... but looking at ya current numbers doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by 2chesapeakes
Leeghoofd, is there any overvolting or undervolting with this board?
my rampage did this (but the bios showed the volts of pll and fsb which the p5q D does not)
Bios set vfsb 1.5 --> real 1.4 (entire .1 drop)
Bios set PLL. 1.54--> real 1.58 (.04 Overvolt)
since we dont know what is the output of the p5q D, sould i just use a DMM or assume there is no drop or raise?
Leeghoofd,
I changed the setting as you showed above. 1.2 volts was instant rounding error in prime 95 small FFT's 1.25 was the same. 1.3 volts semms to be holding I will let small FFT's run for a couple hours and if it holds I will run blend.
Thanks
What is the VID of your Qx9650 seems like a real good chip.
Is there a website or post in this forum where I could read and learn what all the different setting are for and what effect they have on the system and how to best use them to OC?
Best way is to verify ya own board... thing we all agree on is that Auto voltage corresponds to the lowest voltage setting but this can differ big time from the value set in bios... best is to set eg 1.52 for CPU pll... value is pretty close here, some have a bit overvolting... Vdimm is with my board about 0.08 extra... look at post 951 sums it up pretty nicely...
My Vid is 1.1375... so that's 1.3 set in bios giving you about 1.23 under load ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2chesapeakes
The VID on my chip is 1.2375 Batch L744B172. 1.3 Volts set in bios w/ 1.288 CPU-Z. I am thinking the higher voltages are from 4.5Ghz 3dmaor06 runs on air and 4.7ghz Super pi runs on air. I have experienced some serious temps on this chip. I am actually surprised it has not cooked yet. These OC's were with 1.7 volts Vcore.
I want to use this board with Xigmatek HDT-S 1283 Cpu Cooler but mainboards heatpipes are very big,Is that a problem for installation? Is anybody use this board with Xigmatek HDT-S 1283Cpu Cooler ?
I tried the Xigmatek and it does fit, however, I hated the mounting and I ended up changing to the TRUE.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeRKaN
I mounted the Xigmatek on a P5B (where I took the TRUE from) and it's not bad at all.
is anybody else getting a corrupt bios issue when using 5+ghz? setfsb seems to be the culprit here but im not 100% sure. perhaps this is why they put 2 bios chips on the board, to anticipate this issue?
I don't know if this is bios corruption or not but i was using 533fsb and it was prime stable for like 12 hours then yesterday out of nowhere while i was browsing some websites Vista BSOD'd. The computer wasn't even under any kind of load either. Anyways, after that BSOD my computer was totally unstable. If i went into the BIOS and set default or auto settings and basically returned to stock speeds it was still totally unstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
The only thing that fixed the stablility was to Load Defaults then save and exit. After that I could put the overclock back on and it was stable again. I've since backed it down a bit.
Talking about the Performance Level (PL) bios option ....
In x38/x48 we can have PL +/- like this :
6 till 350fsb
7 till 450fsb
8 > 450fsb
...
In the P5Q Deluxe we can have PL +/- like this :
7 till 350fsb
8 till 450fsb
9 > 450fsb
...
It really sucks.
Is there any solution to this ? Anyone knows if it is a bios problem or a chipset problem ? :(
PS: For me P35 still is the champ in memory bench with Everest.
interesting... on my mf modded to rampage @ 450fsb i was able to get pl6 after pull ins.Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
Now that I bought my own, the problems start to appear :(
Problems with the performance level?
until some bios ago, this problem not appeared
It's not a problem ... it's a feature from the very 1st day ;)
I just see people talking and testing high FSB to reach high CPU OC but almost no one talks about the crappy PL on the P5Q Deluxe.
I don't wan't a CPU @ 4.GHz and using crappy PL like 10 or 12 as I been seing arround here. That's rubish.
I prefer a system with a CPU @ 3.6GHz and PL at least = 7.
I think it's a P45 feature so higher FSB can be reached vs using x38/x48.
the higher fsb kind of makes up for the low pl. read and latency are mostly effected by it, however you can overcome the crap pl level by having really high fsb to provide near the same bandwidth as x48.x38 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
Not necesarly,try those PL on x38/x48 and see if you cand reach as close as 600.:D
I totally agree with you. This is why I have yet to order this board. My Asus P5E-VM HDMI is the same way. People with lower clocked Q9450's are out performing me @ Hwbot because my performance level is 11-13. It's really starting to look as though my Q9450 was a bad purchase as I can't find a board to let me get the performance I want out of it with its 8 multiplier.:( I really like this P5Q I hope a bios update will fix this.Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
Really guys this PL stuff is a known issue (or whatever you want to call it) and it's more to P45 related as the early Gigabyte boards have the same high PL... think you can compare this board like with the 965 early revs, great FSB but a bit slower than the 975 clock for clock...
Issue or not if you compare eg the P35DS4 with exact same timings and this P5Q Dlx, there really isn't going much and that test is 2 PL difference... also be aware that P45 is so fresh yet performance and stability is already pretty good... more performance will come for sure...
See post 906 and 913 for comperative results... not that bad... In fact I was worried at start too but after doing some comperative stuff it doesn't bother me at all... at the moment I will not be able to beat my old SuperPi times, maybe in the near future...
If you want a good PL you need good ram, as the 1:1 is locked around 9-10, best thing to use a divider and test best PL then...
IF more performance will come, it sure isn't by a bios upgrade :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
It could be by a chipset revision and that implies a change of board .... bahhh
I'm now waiting is for the new Intel platform because the actual one are already max out :down:
i think some bios tweaks can be had. it seems to me that 1:1 is completely borked. hopefully they can fix that some how.Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
otherwise, im content w/ 4ghz pl7 (pl8 w/ all pullins enabled)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...n22976/pl8.jpg
:up:
I just got the p5q deluxe board a few days ago, and I put a q9300 (L814B035) into it. I have a question about its temperature reporting...
I am using a Thermalright ultra-120extreme for the q9300, and I'm pushing in 1.3250V for 7.5*450=3375Mhz. In the bios (version 0704) it's reporting somewhere around 39C. but in windows OCCT and CoreTemp are reporting temperatures at around 52-53C when idling, and up to 71C when stressing. the heatsink is warm (not hot) to the touch, and I've re-sat the heatsink a few times already to make sure the thermal compound is okay. is that discrepancy normal? or should I actually be worried?
Will you promise me, that if a bios comes along that improves stuff that you will NOT flash it then...:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
I'm aware of the fact that betatesters with Gigabyte boards, that have the same high PL levels at start and now getting better ones with a bios upgrade think the Asus engineers can do the same :D
Board is just over a month old guys... just hang on...
I'm tuned and hope that you thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Just bought a P5Q Deluxe and g0 Q6600. Wish me luck :)
Of course I will flash it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
What I was saying is that I don't believe that the solution for the weak PL situation is with a bios upgrade. I think it's a hardware problem.
I don't need 600 FSB to be happy but I can't get reaper or dominator stable in dual channel at atock 533 fsb , having to go 1 stick :(
if I were to change mobos what is a good X48 replacement???
Iam on 0704 bios can 02 or 06 help this ram problem??
Corsair dominators worked fine from 0604 bios on normally (at least Chrisch PC8500 ones did) The 6400C4's have been a pain in the ass on previous Asus boards too ( recalling Striker Extreme and P5K Dlx ) don't know what it is lately with all these ram issues from the big manufacturers...and then you comment on Corsair forum and mostly will tell you to run the ram at 667mhz speed or sortlike compensations...
What happens if you run the rams in single channel ?
I see it maybe more as a hardware limitation, but if you read my previous posts again that there is not much between eg a P35DS4 and this mobo even with higher PL...and those tests were at the same clock speed, ram setings, ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
I'm not declaring here that with newer biosses we will be able to obtain the same PL's as P35 or X48 but the ram speed and co will prolly get a boost for sure... only time will tell...
With my P5K-E (P35) and my Ramage (x48) I get around 10K in the Everest memory bench. With this P5Q Deluxe, with the same cpu speed and same memory speed I get less 900 to 1000 points, because of the PL issue !
This is what's is pissing me off !
I wish P5K-E had PCI-E 2.0 :(
So it's still not able to run med-high FSB stable with low tRD? I wonder if intel will provide an updated chipset driver or core code or something. Crap tRD does seem to be a symptom of the chipset across all the P45 boards. Something is fishy and I don't think it's just the way P45 is supposed to be. It's performing worse than P35 so something is wrong, and I bet it will be sorted out. I think a lot of early adopters are bailing on it too quickly.
well BSOD , not booting , barely stable with one stick and freezes on two
why would we not bail before our entire OS is corrupt and take a chance on loosing everything on your hard drive??? or atleast having to reload all 50 programs and games
If you have these issues make a ghost then of ya C drive... I always do thatafter have some corruption isses with X38 and 780i
Why not ditch ya raptor Iboomalot and try a regular Hd for ya install, some peeps are reporting issues with the raptors and Asus P45... Will test this this week if all is okay here...
I must be one of the few satisfied customers here. I think people need to stop expecting the world from these motherboards. How much did you pay for it? I could have never hit 450FSB|PL7|1.26V NB on my x38 and it would have been a nightmare to try on my DFI x48. I think the P5Q is a solid DDR2 board that performs very well for only being a month old and costing ~$200.
As for the Raptor drives. I've been running four of them, 1 OS & 3 in RAID0, on my P5Q since buying the board and have had little issue.
Pretty happy camper here too... pretty hard to compare this mobo with a previous chipset and surely not the DFI guys that have tweaks galore...but it's shaping up pretty nicely thx to the hard work of Pmp and Co...
Thx for the feedback on the Raptors Touge... will hook up my drive this week to test also...
Well everyone's use is different I guess. I usually expect to do a ton of testing with any new HW and keep another 2 solid machines for work/play. So I expect to thrash the OS in testing. If you need to use the thing right away as your primary machine I can see why you might bail, but I don't see why you would go for a brand new chipset for that purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
FYI If you decide to bail, P35 is an awesome chipset and I haven't seen anything that can beat it yet, especially for dual core. 500 fsb stable for 24/7 is a breeze with e8400.
I still have high hopes for P45. I really think it will turn the corner and prove to be the king.
Good luck guys!
My new psu just been coming for me this days...
absolutely this mobo comes with the older bios, and i will flash it...
what is the best bios, for now?
another question is:
The problem with the PL, is occurring only with p5q deluxe, or is occurring with all mobos p45?
I can confirm high PL's of 11 & 13 on my P5E-VM HDMI.Quote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
its a memory problem not my raptor
I start testing and it fails quickly and this is at stock 1066 speeds
444 FSB at 1066 ram barely stable enough to hold windows 533 FSB won't completely load windows
single stick does well at lower FSB and 533 is semi stable.
CPU goes to 4 -4.1 before getting nasty.
My 975 mobo was getting old.
What sucks is no e8600 is avil so I changed to a mobo which should have been stable at normal OCs.
My 975 mobo had quirks but liveable vs no dual channel :(
So far I have RMAed two sets of ram not the mobo so its not like Iam not giving it a chance to mature and if I have to switch or
just use 1 stick until fall when I changing to the new platform
Iboomalot even when you run the CPU at stock speeds and ram at 1066Mhz (every other setting besides Vcore and Vdimm set to appropriate values) it doesn't post with 2 sticks ? or is not stable... Plz fill in the template to have a look at your settings as we are getting nowhere with these posts...
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf
And plz list ya correct hardware in ya signature... I thought you had Corsair 6400C4 sticks...yet you talk about 1066Mhz stock speed...
Leeghoofd and guys, can you help me on this? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
If you don't like alpha or beta biosses Raptor go with the official 0704 then... good luck on the build, get to know the board at first before you start OC'ing... it's very sensitive on some voltages... keep us informed...
it's very sensitive on some voltages??
This means that if I do not take care of some voltages, I am damaging the mobo?
tells me what are these sensitive voltages plz!
thanks
eg CPU GTL voltages can be tricky to setup... From AUTO put them at the normal level and then start to tweak... sometimes a good OC will not post after some settings... therefore write everything down and do ONE change at a time till you get the hang of it...Quote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
Also AUTO voltages can seriousy overvolt... but it will help you to post... eg leave everything besides CPU and Ram voltage at Auto... set ya OC, boot, go into bios... change CPU PLL voltage to 1.52 (not 1.5 as it is NOT 1.5) try to post again... go into windows and do some tests, if all okay leave it at this setting, if not stable up the same value a bit more... if all is fine reboot go into bios and go with FSB Term voltage next , then NB voltage... till you got your desired OC...
Just take it slow and write everything what works and what not...
Are you talking to set 1.52v for the PPL because of that table that jVIDIA posted, correct?
But does that table also applies to the bios 0704?
and this overvolt occurs in the same way in all mobos?
It doesn't always mean that's it the same for all mobo's but it is known on several Asus mobo's that AUTO and the lowest setting possbile in the bios are the same and can be a value too high for what is required... it's just nice to know that the ram overvolts a bit (common with Asus) so if you need 2.2 set 2.12 or such... Each board/RMA/CPU/PSU combo is different so we can only give you some guidelines , the rest is up to you sir... Pm me if you need more answers or suggestions plz
Fine mate...thanks for the help more one time..
I will start the test this days, but i will know the mobo first like you said...
max fsb :)
with the simple P5Q, nice mobo :)
http://rs20l33.rapidshare.com/files/125917131/oops.png
hey your link is broken, im very interested in seeing your result Ulver
sorry double post :(
I dont think there really needs to be any worrying about memory performance on this board, I can run PL 8 at 400fsb and 9 at 500fsb. Even though they are quite high (i could run PL7 at 500fsb on P35), I get better bandwidth out of this board then my P35. The only thing thats better on my P35 is memory latency but thats not far off at all and im sure it will get better with later bioses. Still tweaking for 24/7 optimal setup but will post results once i do.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulver
Should I get this board or the formula 2? I lost my two motherboards in a storm and don't want Gigabyte any more but, am confused as to which one to buy. I am going to be putting my 9450 in it and also a Silverstone Decathalon 750w modular and 2gb x 2 G-Skill ddr2 1066 and 8800gts 512 three drives in raid 0.. Please give me some advice thank you for it ahead of time.
So,any news regarding 0801 or 0804 bios?;)
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Originally Posted by truehighroller
Well people here can still voice their oppionions but, I bought the P5Q Deluxe and overnighted it, it should be at my door step tomorrow. :clap::clap::clap:
I bought the P5Q Deluxe along with Q6600 and they should be here at my door step tomorrow as well!!
lol
better hope its a l808 cpu! my p5k-e loves my q6600 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan