Asus' 2GB Radeon HD 5870 Matrix card pictured

ASUS HD 5870 MATRIX Platinum Reviews
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-card-review/1
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...tinum_review/1
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g..._5870_2048_mb/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-m...atinum-review/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_5870_Matrix/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...eo_card_review
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/features/view/33995
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24746
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...on-review.html


http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/new..._Matrix_01.jpg

http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/new..._Matrix_02.jpg

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Asus is really bringing in the Cypress goodies as in addition to the Radeon HD 5870 TOP and Radeon HD 5850 DirectCU (seen yesterday), it has also developed a Matrix series Radeon HD 5870 model. Bearing the ROG (Republic of Gamers) banner, the upcoming Radeon features 1600 Stream Processors, a 256-bit memory interface, a GPU clock of 900 MHz (850 MHz stock), 2GB of GDDR5 memory @ 4900 MHz (4800 MHz), DirectX 11 and CrossFireX support, DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort outputs, plus two 8-pin PCIe power connectors (as opposed to the dual 6-pin plugs on reference models).

The Matrix HD 5870 also comes with v-check points, a button that returns the card to 'safe' frequencies in case your overclocking goes wrong, a custom, dual-slot cooler with a (likely) PWM fan, and a nice, large backplate.

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http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=32616&catid=2

Very nice

Nice looking card. But i really love the red boards and cooler on ATI cards.

Had the matrix GTX285, they are fantastic cards

This looks good indeed. Any word on the pricing?

Does thsi have other components/better oc ram like the MSI Lightning or just the reset button? Because else its pretty boring other than the 2GB ram

This looks interesting. :D
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=22300

Should be nice for those VRAM-lovers :D

So how much is the extra GB going to help gamers at 1080p?

oh again comes these killer play cards from ASUS ........................:D

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Originally Posted by initialised

So how much is the extra GB going to help gamers at 1080p?

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not that much apart from in a few specific games, the 30" gamers will LOVE it though im sure.

Looks like a solid product

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Originally Posted by initialised

So how much is the extra GB going to help gamers at 1080p?

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its not so much that it can help with current games, but that when new games come out, they can develop them knowing that 2GB cards exist and can use it. i for one will not be buying a new card unless it has 2GB, because i keep mine for about 2-3 years, and 1GB will not last until 2012

About time if not a bit too late! :D
I suppose this card will attempt to compete with MSI Lightning (which has 1GB, though) at overclocking.
My bet is on MSI! :p:

looks like these are good cards.

Wow, looks very nice. Can't imagine the price being very competitive though. I think it'll sit bang in between the 5870 and the 5970. Lol. Hope Its priced well though. Wonder what the Asus Ares will be like if this looks this stunning?

mhhh the voltage points suck... the walls of those via holes break really easily and then you cant meassure anymore :/

i like the idea of finally seeing 2gb ati cards, but i dont like the feeling of this card probably charging a big tax for being special...
just a normal ref card with 2gb would be nice...
still, props to asus for offering people a really full blown 5870... tbh i was surprised how many people spent that much money on a 1gb card in 2009...

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Originally Posted by zalbard

About time if not a bit too late! :D
I suppose this card will attempt to compete with MSI Lightning (which has 1GB, though) at overclocking.
My bet is on MSI! :p:

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The msi may be the better OC'er but the asus will own 1600p :D

At last!

A 2gb 5870!

Now why was this not done 6 months ago?

With the shortage of GPUs's they could have spent the time bringing this out sooner.... probably too close to Fermi now to be seriously considered by me.

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Originally Posted by TRICHEESE

The msi may be the better OC'er but the asus will own 1600p :D

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yp!!! 1600p at 200 mhz and 32 x aa?
Looks like a spectacular card!

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Originally Posted by Biker

A 2mb 5870!

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might wanna recheck that statement

These oughta be outstanding in a crossfire/eyeinfinity setup.....

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

might wanna recheck that statement

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What are you talking about? 640KB should be enough for anybody! :D

This is a slick card.

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Originally Posted by initialised

So how much is the extra GB going to help gamers at 1080p?

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You might be surprised. Throw some texture packs at some games and you'll use up the available memory on a 1GB card. I know that I won't be upgrading to any card without 2GB of ram.

Will the double amount of RAM make it GSOD twice as often too?

2gb 5870 FTW.... at last...
:)

we need oldschool add-in memory modules! i want to add another GB to my 5850 this new card :(

What I find particularly interesting and had a good laugh over is the screws in this pic. Reminded me of something.....forget what though. Hmmm

http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/new..._Matrix_04.jpg

^think theres a real heatsink under there?

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

^think theres a real heatsink under there?

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It is hard to say if this is real or not. I mean the screws point to a hasty design to quickly launch this card. The vent goes beyond the card so it could let dust into your case if it is filtered. I don't know. Would have to say I would need to see this working with bench numbers to believe it is even real because seriously now....Who uses wood screws to put a card together?!?


:rofl:

2GB would be handy for us Eyefinity users that run games @ 5760x1080 and other large resolutions.

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

^think theres a real heatsink under there?

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You can clearly see the fins of the heatsink behind the exhaust vent..

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

It is hard to say if this is real or not. I mean the screws point to a hasty design to quickly launch this card. The vent goes beyond the card so it could let dust into your case if it is filtered. I don't know. Would have to say I would need to see this working with bench numbers to believe it is even real because seriously now....Who uses wood screws to put a card together?!?


:rofl:

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Ever own a GTX 295? It had similar screws, they were machine threaded screws.

^It was a joke.

lulz.. longer is not better. MSI has the right idea, making their card TALLER...!

^ Could not agree more.

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

What I find particularly interesting and had a good laugh over is the screws in this pic. Reminded me of something.....forget what though. Hmmm

http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/new..._Matrix_04.jpg

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lol! :D

Looks awesome!

Perfect! Just a shame that this card is so late in the game :(
It does look lovely and no doubt will perform lovely too. This card is practically made for Stalker Clearsky and the sequel when it is released.
Great work ASUS, just a shame this was not out and about 3 months ago.
John

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Originally Posted by trn

2GB would be handy for us Eyefinity users that run games @ 5760x1080 and other large resolutions.

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Yep... my single 5870 gets memory starved for sure when I kick AA on and demanding DX10 features in some games..

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Originally Posted by Xoulz

lulz.. longer is not better. MSI has the right idea, making their card TALLER...!

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Yeah, srsly... Hope the cooling performance will be considerably better at least.

uhh.. am I the only one who noticed this doesn't have 3 proper display ports? I mean, 1 HDMI, 1 DP and 1 DVI is poor if you ask me. What did they do with that last DVI port?

Moved it for airflow.

How much of the orignal reference design has changed. Whenever Asus comes out with one of this wizz bang cards they change the ref design so much none of the FC waterblocks fit.

there any release date on these

still waiting on the 5XXX card with 6x DP :mad:

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Originally Posted by koksy

uhh.. am I the only one who noticed this doesn't have 3 proper display ports? I mean, 1 HDMI, 1 DP and 1 DVI is poor if you ask me. What did they do with that last DVI port?

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good point... 2 mini dvi and one hdmi or dp would have been much better... or 1 dvi and 2 mini dvi... since there are adapters from dvi to dp and hdmi, right?

i dont get why display makers arent using dp... i thought its license is free? :confused:

Why not just dump DVI altogether and just use the smaller ports so you can fit more of them? Like all DP or half and half with DP/HDMI, or DP/miniDVI?

Why are they still including these massive, legacy-looking ports? I mean they can all be converted to DVI if people still use monitors with those connectors anyway, can't they?

i think the biggest issue is that converters for DP to other things go for like 20$. cant throw in 80$ worth of adapters when you can just put one of each type on the chip, and tell consumers to deal with it.

yeh, we need siplay makers to drop dvi first, theeeen vgas will drop them as well...

Does my EK backplate fit on this ? 0_0

Unlikely. This is not a reference design...

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Originally Posted by bill_d

there any release date on these

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didn't someone mentioned CeBIT?

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

still waiting on the 5XXX card with 6x DP :mad:

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official launch is just around the corner ;)

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Originally Posted by saaya

good point... 2 mini dvi and one hdmi or dp would have been much better... or 1 dvi and 2 mini dvi... since there are adapters from dvi to dp and hdmi, right?

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this configuration that ASUS made is the best one for Eyefinity... Basically any monitor today that has DVI has HDMI to.
Also you can output picture on two DVIs and HDM at the same time, so two DVIs are redundant.
Fianlly any DP monitor out thare that's needed for Eyefinity has DVI and HDMI ports also.

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i dont get why display makers arent using dp... i thought its license is free? :confused:

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Yes it's free, but it's a game of chicken and egg... obviously monitor manufacturers expect that ALL graphic cards in ALL segments have DP... ofr two years, and then they'll go with DP on ALL monitors...

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Originally Posted by kgk

Why not just dump DVI altogether and just use the smaller ports so you can fit more of them? Like all DP or half and half with DP/HDMI, or DP/miniDVI?

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'cos of the monitors market segmentation.

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Why are they still including these massive, legacy-looking ports? I mean they can all be converted to DVI if people still use monitors with those connectors anyway, can't they?

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everything is doable if someone is willing to pay for it :)

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i think the biggest issue is that converters for DP to other things go for like 20$. cant throw in 80$ worth of adapters when you can just put one of each type on the chip, and tell consumers to deal with it.

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true, true!

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

this configuration that ASUS made is the best one for Eyefinity... Basically any monitor today that has DVI has HDMI to.
Also you can output picture on two DVIs and HDM at the same time, so two DVIs are redundant.
Fianlly any DP monitor out thare that's needed for Eyefinity has DVI and HDMI ports also.

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but the DVI is duel link, can HDMI do 2560x1600? i thought the next specs will, but not the current?

if true, i dont think this card can do 3x 30" displays, (o noes to the .0001% of the people who have that, i think the rest of us wont care)

Yes, HDMI does 2560x1600 @ 60hz... unless you've got a bad cable.

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

official launch is just around the corner ;)

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thats what I got told like 2-3 months ago :rolleyes:

Now, ASUS could really spice things up with a special edition HD 5970 @ 5870 clock speeds, and 4GB of RAM (2GB effective) ;)
John

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

Now, ASUS could really spice things up with a special edition HD 5970 @ 5870 clock speeds, and 4GB of RAM (2GB effective) ;)
John

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They said they were making a new Mars card, but I doubt you or 99.9% of people on this forum will be able to afford it.

I got some new pics of Asus ROG Matrix 5870: PCB and cooling solution:

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus1.jpg

12 phase PWM (8 for ultra-low leakage Cypress GPU, 2 for IMC and 2 for GDDR5)

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus2.jpg

2GB of memory, total 16 chips

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus3.jpg

5 heatpipes and improved fin-area

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus4.jpg

Heatpipes directly in contact with Cypress GPU

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus5.jpg

Thicker fan (21,5 mm)

Source & pics of AMD's 5870 reference cooling: Muropaketti.com

Fins are very wide, that's an interesting change.

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

I got some new pics of Asus ROG Matrix 5870: PCB and cooling solution:

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus1.jpg

12 phase PWM (8 for ultra-low leakage Cypress GPU, 2 for IMC and 2 for GDDR5)

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus2.jpg

2GB of memory, total 16 chips

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus3.jpg

5 heatpipes and improved fin-area

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus4.jpg

Heatpipes directly in contact with Cypress GPU

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus5.jpg

Thicker fan (21,5 mm)

Source & pics of AMD's 5870 reference cooling: Muropaketti.com

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:) thank you for the beautiful pictures.

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20100305asus5.jpg

Thicker fan (21,5 mm)

Source & pics of AMD's 5870 reference cooling: Muropaketti.com

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I didn't know digital vernier callipers existed! :shrug::shocked:

Holy crap, those are awesome pics

Can't wait to see what these guys can do!

PS. 6-pin + 8-pin PCIe power connectors are required for normal use, but for LN2 extreme-overclocking there is an option to go for 8-pin + 8-pin. Using 2x 8-pin PCIe power connectors will remove OCP.

whats the silver chip on the back of the card? just below the rear of the gpu

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

PS. 6-pin + 8-pin PCIe power connectors are required for normal use, but for LN2 extreme-overclocking there is an option to go for 8-pin + 8-pin. Using 2x 8-pin PCIe power connectors will remove OCP.

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:up:

good news :D one mod less to do on pcb :up:

:( if only you could get a full cover water block for that.

I wonder how much better direct touch heat pipes would do. Especially those outside ones. Over normal base with heat pipes.

Looks really nice! Any idea on pricing?

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Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

whats the silver chip on the back of the card? just below the rear of the gpu

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filtering cap, Asus uses them on their motherboards too. "cleaner" power to vgpu.

More info + info about ASUS' new "V2" reference design:

HERE!

now thats nice looking, 2GB is pretty good and cant wait to see more

SKYMTL, did ASUS give you any indication of retail price for the 2GB?? availability??

The Matrix will only be available in 2GB. Their new reference version will only be available in 1GB format.

Pricing is unknown. I am guessing they are waiting to see what happens when the market settles after the upcoming NVIDIA launches.

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

The Matrix will only be available in 2GB. Their new reference version will only be available in 1GB format.

Pricing is unknown. I am guessing they are waiting to see what happens when the market settles after the upcoming NVIDIA launches.

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Still no word on the pricing huh?

Not in my inbox anyways. However, I am going to guess $480 - $510 USD.

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Not in my inbox anyways. However, I am going to guess $480 - $510 USD.

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Yea thats what I am guessing too @ estimated price. Thanx for the reply.

Maybe the king is huge and ugly bust still:

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5033/hd5995.png

... now that's pure power baby.

Asus' Matrix is clocked at 894MHz/4800MHz
Why did Asus leave the memory at stock speed?

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Asus' Matrix is clocked at 894MHz/4800MHz
Why did Asus leave the memory at stock speed?

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not too sure, i thought the clocks were meant to be 900/4900? perhaps the mem bus on cypress can't handle anything faster?

Sweet card. Just need a waterblock or this beast. but chances are small.

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Originally Posted by 570091D

not too sure, i thought the clocks were meant to be 900/4900? perhaps the mem bus on cypress can't handle anything faster?

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Techreport tested this card against GTX 480
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/3

BTW Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB is 925MHz/5000MHz

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Techreport tested this card against GTX 480
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/3

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yeah doesnt seem to get much of an increase in fps over 1gb version if u game under 2560x1600

hmm

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Techreport tested this card against GTX 480
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/3

BTW Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB is 925MHz/5000MHz

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excuse me, didn't see that. :eek: it's interesting to look at the far cry test in that review, even with heavy AA the matrix still takes a huge performance hit, to the point where it performs below the gtx470. i was expecting the extra vram to help cypress with AA. :confused:

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

More info + info about ASUS' new "V2" reference design:

HERE!

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EAH5870/2DIS/1GD5/V2 is on Asus website now
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...xU0&templete=2

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Techreport tested this card against GTX 480
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/3

BTW Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB is 925MHz/5000MHz

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Do those numbers look a little wierd to anyone else? I don't recall seeing the GTX470 and GTX480 being owned in BC2 in any other reviews.

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Originally Posted by H2O

Do those numbers look a little wierd to anyone else? I don't recall seeing the GTX470 and GTX480 being owned in BC2 in any other reviews.

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In the Anandtech review Fermi's perform below Cypresses in BC2 as well, although Anand has sweetened the situation by talking about the minimum framerates in which Fermi "tramples" Cypress.

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Originally Posted by XSAlliN

Maybe the king is huge and ugly bust still:

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5033/hd5995.png

... now that's pure power baby.

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why do i feel like i see this screenshot in a few threads? and where exactly is a 2000SP ATI card this reflects? if its just suppose to be funny, whys it posted everywhere

See low FPS of Asus matrix 5870 2gb, Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB will decrease the difference between it and gtx 480 the Metro 2033 tessellation score is interesting 3fps difference

http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gtx-480/metro2033.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gt...-dx10-2560.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gt...lands-1920.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gtx-480/mw2.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gtx-480/mw2.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gtx-480/bc2.gif

When will the card get reviewed? I want to see how well it performs. Hmm, looks like the tech report article reviewing it.

MATRIX 5870/2DIS/2GD5 I just saw it on the Asus website now

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...C5U&templete=2

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

EAH5870/2DIS/1GD5/V2 is on Asus website now
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...xU0&templete=2

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121374

$430 + shipping

1GB and stock clocks ^^^^^ , the card on newegg . and it looks a little bit different

That one

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...xU0&templete=2

yeah if that was the 2GB matrix for $430, i would have wet myself and clicked the buy button, then go change my underwear

the asus eyefinity card looks sexy, carbon fiber stickers!

any reviews of the Asus V2 yet?

I remember when the 5870 first came out, there were a truckload of people crying: "WTF 1GB ONLY?!?! WTF WE WANT 2GB!!!! OMFGZZZZ MEMORY BOTTLENECK OMFG!!!!"

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Originally Posted by Frontl1ne

I remember when the 5870 first came out, there were a truckload of people crying: "WTF 1GB ONLY?!?! WTF WE WANT 2GB!!!! OMFGZZZZ MEMORY BOTTLENECK OMFG!!!!"

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has anyone properly done a test of 1GB vs 2GB 5870s on a modded crysis with texture packs included?

its about future proofing, the idea that my 1GB card will last forever means we hit a very nice brick wall in technology, which i pray is not the case. i dont plan to spend 400-500$ on a card i will only keep for 1 year. but if an extra 50$ of memory makes it last 3 years, thats a pretty good upgrade. and can you imagine how much memory will be standard in 2012, or how games will be able to utilize it?

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

has anyone properly done a test of 1GB vs 2GB 5870s on a modded crysis with texture packs included?

its about future proofing, the idea that my 1GB card will last forever means we hit a very nice brick wall in technology, which i pray is not the case. i dont plan to spend 400-500$ on a card i will only keep for 1 year. but if an extra 50$ of memory makes it last 3 years, thats a pretty good upgrade. and can you imagine how much memory will be standard in 2012, or how games will be able to utilize it?

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+this current games don't push it i agree but special mods do and there are plenty of themh

Stock clocks dont really matter on Asus cards as overclocking is covered by the warranty anyway, and they offer voltage tweak and unlocked OC limits, whereas other brands dont (except MSI).

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Techreport tested this card against GTX 480
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/3

BTW Sapphire 5870 Toxic 2GB is 925MHz/5000MHz

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i love how everyone is blabbering that 480 has awesome dx11 power unfortunantly in real games its nearly on par with 5870 :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by eric66

i love how everyone is blabbering that 480 has awesome dx11 power unfortunantly in real games its nearly on par with 5870 :ROTF:

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Many of the DX11 titles currently available were developed using ATi hardware and capabilities since nVidia was just a little late to the party. In upcoming games you'll be sure to see much higher levels of tessellation available in game settings which Fermi cards can utilize to greatly enhance image quality while keeping playable frame rates.

Yes... I know it's not a game, but nobody can deny how powerful Fermi is when it comes to levels of tessellation much higher than currently used in retail games.

http://www.kalionzes.net/computers/tessellation.png


As a current owner of a GTX285 and former owner of HD4870, I'm definitely going to wait for both companies to refresh their current cards. nV definitely needs to work out its heat and power issues through a refinement of TSMC's process... and I'm sure a more mature .40nm process would be of benefit to ATi and allow for less heat and higher clocks.