ASUS M4N82/955 problems....plz NO AMD chipset suggestions

I have already posted my problem here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=232609

...but due to lack of foresight I did NOT mention the motherboard model in topic title. Please ONLY offer suggestions if you own an ASUS board with a 750a, 780a or 980a chipset...with an AMD 955 processor and an AMI BIOS. Any other suggestions are fruitless. The normal OCing procedures and component isolation tests do NOT work on this motherboard, with this CPU and this BIOS....I am NOT new to overclocking and although I have a low post count...that does NOT mean I am an idiot. I have much higher post counts on other equally respected forums.

Thx in advance for any help with this issue.

I have that MB and I have tested the 955 in it also. I Don’t know about yours but my MB exhibits some strange behavior such as treating my bios settings more like suggestions rather than hard settings. Especially FSB and voltage settings. Once you find a bios setting the MB will accept and you can live with, the MBs not really that bad at least during my testing. I’ve run 3dbenches with it at 4.1GHz+ in tri-sli with water cooled CPU. I don’t have it installed (setup) at the moment and the notes from those tests, not sure where they are. Anyway if you don’t get it figured out soon I can set mine up under air or water cooling (maybe tomorrow) and try to duplicate your problem using your settings? Let me know.

Well I know its a pain...but I'm truly stuck....I'm down to bad mobo or CPU and I'd really like it to not be either :)

But don't kill yourself...whenever you get the time to setup or find the notes...I'd really appreciate it....if I have to RMA the board or CPU I'd like to do before warranty runs out...which will be a while yet :)

And what is your problem exactly? Some chips/boards will just hit a wall at certain settings. Try more voltage (on nb or nforce thing) or start overclocking via FSB instead of multi. I think the problem lies within the fact you have an Asus board though :rofl:

While I didn't meet the 955 requirements.. my M4n72-E (750a) would allow me to only run up to about 3.7ghz on my 940. Put the same cpu in a M3A79T-Dlx and I could boot at 4ghz something the M4N would never do. MSI has a 980a mobo due out any day now. Unfortunately too little too late.. as I got a steal on 2 * 2.9ghz Shanghai Opterons and wont go back to AM3 for the foreseeable future.

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And what is your problem exactly? Some chips/boards will just hit a wall at certain settings. Try more voltage (on nb or nforce thing) or start overclocking via FSB instead of multi. I think the problem lies within the fact you have an Asus board though :rofl:

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My problem exactly is posted in the link above....that's why I put the link there :)

.and the nforce "thing" is only for hybrid SLI which I have disabled in BIOS :)

check the Bjorn3D link below...20x multi and +1 notch on NB voltage, and...bam...4.0ghz, as for the voltage.....OC experts like CHEW have posted repeatedly that these CPU's do NOT like high voltage...for example, I successfully booted into 3.8ghz ran Prime95/blend 3+ hours and validated it @ Overclock.net...however...it won't restart at 3.8Ghz...even if I just boot into 3.8 and restart....just read the post i linked to in the top of this thread..it'll save a lot of questions :)

Thx anyways ;)

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077

While I didn't meet the 955 requirements.. my M4n72-E (750a) would allow me to only run up to about 3.7ghz on my 940. Put the same cpu in a M3A79T-Dlx and I could boot at 4ghz something the M4N would never do. MSI has a 980a mobo due out any day now. Unfortunately too little too late.. as I got a steal on 2 * 2.9ghz Shanghai Opterons and wont go back to AM3 for the foreseeable future.

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well here's a link that says that this exact mobo/CPU...easily does 4Ghz:

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1565&pageID=6856

and please, I appreciate the suggestions, but if you don't have the M4N82 and the 955...they are NOT going to help....I've got 40-50 posts about this exact topic on overclock.net already...this is a very new mobo with a very finicky 980a chip(set)...add to that that ASUS is NO help because board is still under warranty and AMI BIOS's suxxors. As I mentioned in the original post (linked above) this is NOT my first OC...but this is the first time that I've had problems that I shouldn't be having.

What "theoldtimer" said above is EXACTLY what this BIOS on this board with this CPU acts like.....it treats settings more as suggestions than as actual settings lol

One very simple example is the DRAM Timing section of this BIOS.....there IS NO MANUAL option....you can choose auto or both....as you can easily see....this makes stable OCing a very tricky/lucky business on this motherboard. I've had it just arbitrarily change my RAM timings...because IT wanted to :)

Calm down. Nvidias 7x0 and 9x0 chipset is the same except the later got a new name, and the difference between 940 and 955 is basically null. All CPUs are difference you might've maxed out at 3,7GHz stable.

My 720BE also maxed at 3,7GHz and we got the same CPU basically afterall.... ;)

here is CPU-Z validated..... Prime 95/blend 3+hours stable results for the 955 from overclock.net...unfortunately a link to this thread...takes you to the home page...so here is a picture instead....

http://i26.tinypic.com/2a7ipuf.jpg


all but about 4-5 entries are on AIR Cooling :)

here's my Idle temps at 20C ambient (68F)....these are all the latest versions of these programs...btw

http://i26.tinypic.com/28w51e.jpg

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Calm down. Nvidias 7x0 and 9x0 chipset is the same except the later got a new name, and the difference between 940 and 955 is basically null. All CPUs are difference you might've maxed out at 3,7GHz stable.

My 720BE also maxed at 3,7GHz and we got the same CPU basically afterall.... ;)

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Actually, the difference between the 720's the 940's and the 955's are very much different. Also the combination of the CPU/motherboard, is just as important, if not more so than the CPU itself...That is precisely why I asked for help from those with NVIDIA chipsets and 955's. Please do not spam this post with conjecture. This motherboard is only about 4 months old and instead of an AWARD BIOS, ASUS switched to AMI BIOS...and I have the latest version as well, which is about 2 weeks old.

If you had actually gone to the link at top of this thread and read it...you would see that I am NOT concerned with the CPU speed. I am concerned with the fact that even on a CPU validated 3+ hour Prime95/blend 3.8Ghz run...the computer is stable but will not restart. THAT is the issue...and it points to either software or memory corruption, NOT damage...but corruption.

Also, the fact that it easily boots into 3.9 in safe mode should tell you that the CPU and/or the motherboard are NOT the limiting factors.

Lastly, as I stated in the first post in this thread....I'd like to hear from those with the 750, 780 or 980 nVidia chipsets, running the 955....I don't CARE what a 940 or a 720 does with an AMD chipset, as i do not have those. Why this is so difficult for some to understand is beyond me.

The fact that a 2.8Ghz 720 or a 3.0Ghz 940 can get maxed out at 3.7Ghz is a lot more understandable than the fact that a 3.2Ghz 955 can! Even a less than perfect 955 should easily get 3.8-3.9Ghz which is only a 600-700Mhz over clock. The problem is much more likely to be immature BIOS or immature chipset drivers.

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Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Calm down. Nvidias 7x0 and 9x0 chipset is the same except the later got a new name, and the difference between 940 and 955 is basically null. All CPUs are difference you might've maxed out at 3,7GHz stable.

My 720BE also maxed at 3,7GHz and we got the same CPU basically afterall.... ;)

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Actually, the difference between the 720's the 940's and the 955's are very much different. Also the combination of the CPU/motherboard, is just as important, if not more so than the CPU itself...That is precisely why I asked for help from those with NVIDIA chipsets and 955's. Please do not spam this post with conjecture. This motherboard is only about 4 months old and instead of an AWARD BIOS, ASUS switched to AMI BIOS...and I have the latest version as well, which is about 2 weeks old.

If you had actually gone to the link at top of this thread and read it...you would see that I am NOT concerned with the CPU speed. I am concerned with the fact that even on a CPU validated 3+ hour Prime95/blend 3.8Ghz run...the computer is stable but will not restart. THAT is the issue...and it points to either software or memory corruption, NOT damage...but corruption.

Also, the fact that it easily boots into 3.9 in safe mode should tell you that the CPU and/or the motherboard are NOT the limiting factors.

Lastly, as I stated in the first post in this thread....I'd like to hear from those with the 750, 780 or 980 nVidia chipsets, running the 955....I don't CARE what a 940 or a 720 does with an AMD chipset, as i do not have those. Why this is so difficult for some to understand is beyond me.

The fact that a 2.8Ghz 720 or a 3.0Ghz 940 can get maxed out at 3.7Ghz is a lot more understandable than the fact that a 3.2Ghz 955 can! Even a less than perfect 955 should easily get 3.8-3.9Ghz which is only a 600-700Mhz over clock. The problem is much more likely to be immature BIOS or immature chipset drivers.

There are even 1 or 2 people getting 4.2Ghz on this CPU...on AIR!

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Originally Posted by ghot

The fact that a 2.8Ghz 720 or a 3.0Ghz 940 can get maxed out at 3.7Ghz is a lot more understandable than the fact that a 3.2Ghz 955 can! Even a less than perfect 955 should easily get 3.8-3.9Ghz which is only a 600-700Mhz over clock. The problem is much more likely to be immature BIOS or immature chipset drivers.

There are even 1 or 2 people getting 4.2Ghz on this CPU...on AIR!

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Doesn't matter, I've still seen quite a few 955 max out on 3,7GHz. The whole Phenom II range = same piece of silicon anyways.

Prime stability can still be unstable, try a variety of programs

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Doesn't matter, I've still seen quite a few 955 max out on 3,7GHz. The whole Phenom II range = same piece of silicon anyways.

Prime stability can still be unstable, try a variety of programs

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you just refuse to READ don't you lol.....I got no problem running Prime....it just don't reboot into 3.8ghz even when i dont stress it...its a software issue bro....I even did a fresh install of windows....nothing but drivers and directX....not even MS updates, services stripped to the bone etc...same problem...it boots into 3.8 ONCE

You see ghot at bottom of that big yellow picture of prime stable runs???? That's ME lol

CLICK HERE: http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/650647.png

If its a software issue you not going to find the answer here this is a hardware section of the forum...........check the OS section.

yet another AMD chipset advisor....sheesh :/

Look..last time...it boots at 3.9+ into safe mode...no problems...so its not the CPU or the motherboard...a clean OS install doesn't help either....now...what are we left with....CPU/mobo/RAM instability...but ONLY when I restart....

Ergo...the only thing left...no matter how unbelievable is BIOS settings...problem is...it's a relatively NEW BIOS, even though it's the latest version....so....ONLY someone with EXACT same hardware and BIOS...can help...I realize there are not many of those...read "theoldtimer"s post up top.....and then please stop spamming this post...thx :)

I DO appreciate that you are all WILLING to help...but unless you have the exact same setup......

I didn’t forget about you ghot. I setup the Asus M4N82 system and ran some tests today and I’ll try and post some bios shots along with the test results @3.9GHz sometime this evening. Although I can’t reproduce the error you receive at Windows XP boot, I can produce a file not found followed by a failed OS boot.

well good luck with that then....let us know when its solved and what the cause was.

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you just refuse to READ don't you lol.....I got no problem running Prime....it just don't reboot into 3.8ghz even when i dont stress it...its a software issue bro....I even did a fresh install of windows....nothing but drivers and directX....not even MS updates, services stripped to the bone etc...same problem...it boots into 3.8 ONCE

You see ghot at bottom of that big yellow picture of prime stable runs???? That's ME lol

CLICK HERE: http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/650647.png

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I do read but sometimes Prime95 can lie. Many people run Prime95 stable yet they face some sort of issues like instability or the one you are mentioning.

Try out OCCT and LinX aswell. Personally I combine Prime95/LinX and memtest86+ to determine what's stable. To me your software issues sounds like instability so try OCCT or LinX aswell, also memtest86+. Even if you haven't clocked your memory the RAM or NB could get instable cause your CPU is increased.

Just trying to help so please try not to be rude turn down that attitude if you want any help on XS really, also learn the fact that different chips are very different from eachothers.

Bro...I'm really trying be to be nice here....I got OCCT and LinX and Orthos beta SP4...BUT IF THE COMP DON'T REBOOT...IT DON'T REBOOT....which part don't you get....I KNOW ITS UNSTABLE...even at 3.7 occasionally I get oddities...now go raise your post count somewhere else...and don't get hurt feelings....go buy an M4N82 and a 955...then we'll talk :/

I got a whole folder full of stress test programs including memtest....which I pass with flying colors on overnight runs on one stick each and both together of three sets of quality RAM.

I was putting computers together waaaaay back in the late 70's and early 80's...there is something in the BIOS that is messing me up...most probably in the not normal RAM settings. ASUS is only on the 6th BIOS for this board...and they don't even know what all the weird memory settings do.

Like I just said 2-3 times already, I understand you are trying to help.....but you just can't solve apple problems with oranges :)

ghot if you are so smart I suggest you shut up and figure it out yourself. Everyone is trying to help you and if they are 5% wrong you just bash them like a sm******. I don't think you will last much more around here with that attitude.

I've noticed your vCore is only 1.40v. Try upping it to 1.45v-1.48v and come back. I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: if other people have different chipsets than you, they are just trying to help, and so am I.

Who the hell said you were an idiot? Your replies and posting style suggests you think we are all stupid. If you want only people with the 980a chipset to help you, go straggle off the the nforce forum where you will meet real sm******'s...

I'm willing to help as I own the 590 SLI chipset on an AMD platform. I could probably help if you allow, and I'll try to look at your mobo's manual.

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Well I know its a pain...but I'm truly stuck....I'm down to bad mobo or CPU and I'd really like it to not be either :)

But don't kill yourself...whenever you get the time to setup or find the notes...I'd really appreciate it....if I have to RMA the board or CPU I'd like to do before warranty runs out...which will be a while yet :)

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Ok ghot, I have the MB installed in my testing fixture (not in a case, it’s just easier in the fixture) using air cooling (Tuniq tower) along with three extra 120MM fans for the chipset, ram and GFX card. I flashed to the 802 bios before testing. I’m using Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7 RC 32-bit in dual boot but this is not a fresh install of XP.

I tested @3914MHz 19X206 with 2400MHz NB, 3914MHz 19X206 with 2600MHz NB and 3900MHz 19.5X200 with 2400MHz @1.5125 set in the bios. I tested other bios settings as well as CPU voltage settings 1.45 to 1.55V but prime always stopped with in a few minutes when running @3900MHz (max cpu temp was 53C as read using Core Temp) although other bench tests ran fine. When testing at 3800MHz prime ran until I stopped it (40+ minutes). I have tested using this 955be for quite a while now and I’ve beat on it in at least three different motherboards, mostly using water cooling so it’s not as fresh as it once was. Lower voltage settings may work as well in your system but these work in this one.

My system was more stable using 19X206 3914MHz running the 2400MHz northbridge speed but would run the tests that I normally run @2600MHz NB.

This one would not boot into XP @3900MHz at 1.45V, 1.48V but it did at 1.5Vwith the CPU/NB set @AUTO for speed and voltage. It needed 1.2V for the CPU/NB @2400MHz to boot into XP @3900MHz. When I set the NB to 2600MHz at 1.2V the boot failed with a file not found message on the black screen. I increased the CPU/NB voltage in steps until XP booted at 1.2875V. After running some tests in XP I bumped the CPU voltage to 1.5125V which made it possible to complete 3DMARK06, Wprime 32M and SupePI 1M but it won’t prime for any length of time. I didn’t install any games to try so I don’t have a clue about that aspect of the over clock.

Below are my bios settings, use at your own risk!
CPU 3914MHZ NB 2472MHz-1.2V
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/DSC00923.jpg


CPU 3914MHz NB 2678MHz-1.2875V
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/DSC00928.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...rpi32mcpuz.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...06cpuzgpuz.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...imesuperpi.jpg

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Ok ghot, I have the MB installed in my testing fixture (not in a case, it’s just easier in the fixture) using air cooling (Tuniq tower) along with three extra 120MM fans for the chipset, ram and GFX card. I flashed to the 802 bios before testing. I’m using Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7 RC 32-bit in dual boot but this is not a fresh install of XP.

I tested @3914MHz 19X206 with 2400MHz NB, 3914MHz 19X206 with 2600MHz NB and 3900MHz 19.5X200 with 2400MHz @1.5125 set in the bios. I tested other bios settings as well as CPU voltage settings 1.45 to 1.55V but prime always stopped with in a few minutes when running @3900MHz (max cpu temp was 53C as read using Core Temp) although other bench tests ran fine. When testing at 3800MHz prime ran until I stopped it (40+ minutes). I have tested using this 955be for quite a while now and I’ve beat on it in at least three different motherboards, mostly using water cooling so it’s not as fresh as it once was. Lower voltage settings may work as well in your system but these work in this one.

My system was more stable using 19X206 3914MHz running the 2400MHz northbridge speed but would run the tests that I normally run @2600MHz NB.

This one would not boot into XP @3900MHz at 1.45V, 1.48V but it did at 1.5Vwith the CPU/NB set @AUTO for speed and voltage. It needed 1.2V for the CPU/NB @2400MHz to boot into XP @3900MHz. When I set the NB to 2600MHz at 1.2V the boot failed with a file not found message on the black screen. I increased the CPU/NB voltage in steps until XP booted at 1.2875V. After running some tests in XP I bumped the CPU voltage to 1.5125V which made it possible to complete 3DMARK06, Wprime 32M and SupePI 1M but it won’t prime for any length of time. I didn’t install any games to try so I don’t have a clue about that aspect of the over clock.

Below are my bios settings, use at your own risk!
CPU 3914MHZ NB 2472MHz-1.2V
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/DSC00923.jpg


CPU 3914MHz NB 2678MHz-1.2875V
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/DSC00928.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...rpi32mcpuz.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...06cpuzgpuz.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...imesuperpi.jpg

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Thank you bro ur a god...in next day or so..prolly tomorrow aft and evening ill work on this....you da man! :)


.....and don't worry I've had much higher voltages all round and definitely have Ghost backups and know how to crash free :)
I hearby waive "theoldtimer" of all responsibility for my using your settings :)

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Thank you bro ur a god...in next day or so..prolly tomorrow aft and evening ill work on this....you da man! :)


.....and don't worry I've had much higher voltages all round and definitely have Ghost backups and know how to crash free :)
I hearby waive "theoldtimer" of all responsibility for my using your settings :)

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Good luck and I hope this helps.

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ghot if you are so smart I suggest you shut up and figure it out yourself. Everyone is trying to help you and if they are 5% wrong you just bash them like a sm******. I don't think you will last much more around here with that attitude.

I've noticed your vCore is only 1.40v. Try upping it to 1.45v-1.48v and come back. I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: if other people have different chipsets than you, they are just trying to help, and so am I.

Who the hell said you were an idiot? Your replies and posting style suggests you think we are all stupid. If you want only people with the 980a chipset to help you, go straggle off the the nforce forum where you will meet real sm******'s...

I'm willing to help as I own the 590 SLI chipset on an AMD platform. I could probably help if you allow, and I'll try to look at your mobo's manual.

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had vcore up to 1.55v son...."theoldtimer" has obviously done extensive testing on this board....and his input is appreciated...

and bro it wouldn't matter which forum I post on.....the chipset is attached to the board. The problem is ....it's a new mobo and chipset and advice from those without the same combo ....while it

...shows initiative....still doesn't help.

I live on a fixed income bro, I can't afford to set up test rigs like "theoldtimer" obviously can. Heck, I can't even afford a digital camera to take SS's of my BIOS :)

I don't think ANYONE here is an idiot...I DO think that some people post before they actually READ what the problem is....we're all in this together...the brave, the daring, the willing to risk smoke....but while a chevy mechanic may be able to assemble a ford...a ford mechanic will be able to tune it better :) And tuning is what we're doing here, my friend :)

In two...(only 2) posts..."theoldtimer" did 2 things he completely read the problems and then did his best to SIMULATE the exact same environment..aka...CPU/mobo....and THEN offered advice.

From his COMPLETE testing on same gear...he has shown me where i was in error...with my finicky BIOS...now THAT's worth a lot more than 15 people with different gear...GUESSING.

Like I've said 3-5 times now...I appreciate the interest shown...but I think it would be better spent helping those with AMD/ATI chipsets....don't you :)

$200 case, $170 mobo, 955 BE, 4 GB of DDR2-1066, a GTX 280, two hard drives, PCP&C 750w, and best of all a $70 air cooler that isn't any better than some $35-40 ones...

But you can't afford a digital camera? :confused:

Anyway, I wish you luck.

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$200 case, $170 mobo, 955 BE, 4 GB of DDR2-1066, a GTX 280, two hard drives, PCP&C 750w, and best of all a $70 air cooler that isn't any better than some $35-40 ones...

But you can't afford a digital camera? :confused:

Anyway, I wish you luck.

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That's WHY I can't afford a digital camera lol

and the Zalman does much better than a $30-40 cooler as reviewed here: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/281...ler/index.html....especially the part at the bottom of page four....unless your a very serious perfectionist...this sucker doesn't need lapped :)
Also...toss away that stupid PWM control and it goes 2250 RPM vs 2000 RPM...as the article said though...they didn't leave enough room between the heat pipes for either/or mounting on AMD, like they did on the round copper ones ;/

here's my temps at 21C ambient:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5593/image1ttj.jpg


....best of all though, Newegg has it..the price will come down and the ZM-STG2 Thermal grease is awesome

I didn't wanna quote the theoldtimers (good job with that) post due but I see he used 1.50 bios = 1.48 in windows to get to 3.9. Anything over 1.48 bios (1.44 windows) on mine gets unstable at 3.9GHz. My settings are darn near the same as his with minor differences with ram and core v. I posted one time at 4.0GHz with the cpu running @ 15c but that was it.

I have seen 940s that would not go past 3.6GHz so maybe the cpu might be the prob. It sounds like you have tried almost every things.... I will look at a few things and back track all ur posts from other thread.

I'm sorry but I LOL'ed really hard at the 18c motherboard reading.

I'm just speculating, but you could have easily had the same or even more performance with a $120 motherboard and $35 Scythe Mugen 2 (which, if you look at that review, performed better than your $70 Zalman!) and a cheaper case such as the HAF 932...and a quieter, more efficient PSU like the Corsair 750HX or Seasonic M12D SS-750 :S And tube of MX-2...TX-2 or TX-3...MX-3.

Then your would have had the money for a $200 digital camera.

Sorry for the offtopic...;)

you show me a 18C mobo temp in 21c ambient lol

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I didn't wanna quote the theoldtimers (good job with that) post due but I see he used 1.50 bios = 1.48 in windows to get to 3.9. Anything over 1.48 bios (1.44 windows) on mine gets unstable at 3.9GHz. My settings are darn near the same as his with minor differences with ram and core v. I posted one time at 4.0GHz with the cpu running @ 15c but that was it.

I have seen 940s that would not go past 3.6GHz so maybe the cpu might be the prob. It sounds like you have tried almost every things.... I will look at a few things and back track all ur posts from other thread.

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I think you are right....for the present....2 things have to happen first....

1. I got 2x230mm and a 120mm fan still plugged into mobo....bad Ghot!
2. The BIOS on these boards is too immature yet...for example:
If i set CPU freq at 206 in BIOS it shows as 206 in HWMonitor. CPU-Z
and Everest.
If I set 208 it shows as 206.7 in all three proggies, 212 shows as
210.7...yet 210 shows as 210 lol

Like when i was OCing the M2N32 SLI Deluxe w/AMD 5000+ BE I was stuck at 3.0ghz for almost 3 months....UNTIL I hooked ALL the case fans, direct to PSU ! Most of these folks that are getting 3.9 and 4.0 or better are doing it on a test bench setup...NOT in a case. Their fan are all hooked to PSU. Even the A7N8X w/2800+ had same issue....all ASUS nVidia chipset boards..all same problem.

The 120mm fan draws 5v @ 1/4 amp...I shudder to think what amperage the 230mm fans are drawing :)

This thread is full of fail. Double, triple, and quadruple postings. You can't just magically take someones bios settings and they work for you. Every piece of hardware is different. There is a line between asking for help and just being a complete annoyance >.>

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This thread is full of fail. Double, triple, and quadruple postings. You can't just magically take someones bios settings and they work for you. Every piece of hardware is different. There is a line between asking for help and just being a complete annoyance >.>

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i just read thru the whole thing. qft.

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Most of these folks that are getting 3.9 and 4.0 or better are doing it on a test bench setup...NOT in a case. Their fan are all hooked to PSU.

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or... they have a fan controller.

Be nice, guys. Thanks.

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Be nice, guys. Thanks.

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I thought giving suggestions and trying to help was being nice?.......I dont see how much nicer people can be towards a new member who doesnt respond well to something that "didnt help them":shrug:

No, it wasn't that. I removed a couple rude posts per request.

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2. The BIOS on these boards is too immature yet...for example:
If i set CPU freq at 206 in BIOS it shows as 206 in HWMonitor. CPU-Z
and Everest.
If I set 208 it shows as 206.7 in all three proggies, 212 shows as
210.7...yet 210 shows as 210 lol

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My M4N72-E did same thing after even 3-4 bios revisions, its likely the clock generator

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My M4N72-E did same thing after even 3-4 bios revisions, its likely the clock generator

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I was just at ASUS forums...for this mobo...it seems most are having this same issue....general consensus (wrong or right) is that the 0802 BIOS is flaky when mixed with varying programs. It sure seems to be the case on my system.

I also have one other condition that may be affecting these attempts to pass 3.7Ghz....Verizon FIOS...
...it START to try to acquire IP at same time as the Windows loading screen progress bar. In fact, even when IN Windows, the icon by the clock on taksbar says acquiring address for almost 20 mins, even though I can get online in 8-15 seconds. I can make it stop this on each Windows load by going to network connections and then drill down through all the property sheets to the WINS tab, and then just closing them all. This will list the Local Area Connection as: Connected....instead of acquiring for 20 minutes.

Since the Windows load screen is where i get the 0X000000A error this could also be part of the issue. I have simply unhooked the CAT5e cable....but it didn't make much difference. My best guess at the present is what I've already said....first, I'm going to hook ALL the case fans to the PSU instead of the motherboard...this solved a similar problem on my M2N32Sli deluxe OC. I have a "feeling" that ASUS motherboards are really tocuhy with any voltage fluctuations (draws). Im use the same software and same FIOS as I had on the M2N32/AMD 5000 BE @ 3.2Ghz....which is rock stable 24/7 for almost 2 years....always on etc.

If the moving all but the CPU fan to the PSU don't solve the issue...then maybe I do have a bad mobo or CPU.
The ONLY reason I don't think this is the case is that it hits 3.9 easy in safe mode....and since the software or FIOS connection hasn't changed since my M2N32 had similar problems....that being stuck at 3.0ghz no matter what i did. Moved fans to CPU...3.2Ghz easy, and that OC was in a generic mid tower case with 5x80mm fans.

Then I will wait and see if ASUS releases a new BIOS, and if that doesn't help...RMA I guess :/

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This thread is full of fail. Double, triple, and quadruple postings. You can't just magically take someones bios settings and they work for you. Every piece of hardware is different. There is a line between asking for help and just being a complete annoyance >.>

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Bro that's just outta line....I know the same settings won't work on every system lol....who doesn't. But asking questions gives ME more ideas....I spend 16 hours every day trying different settings...as we all do...pretty soon you run dry of new ideas....but it's not always the motherboard or CPU's fault.

Too many people just RMA till they luck out with a golden set of parts...now that's lame. It raises prices of parts and runs online retailers OUT of parts.

Personally I like to keep trying until I've either tried every combo of settings or can definitely prove I've got a bad part...so far I can't do that :) This is also my first AMI BIOS...so yes, I'm going to ask what others have tried....because trying every possible combo till I find the golden one will take longer than the warranty :)

If I could unlink the RAM from the FSB it'd be a lot easier, but this BIOS won't allow that.

Best thing I think is the old saying: If you haven't got anything good to say about something, remain silent. Flaming topics does nothing for anyone ^^

i've searched the asus support forum of this mobo for this problem but can't find it. could you point me to it ghot?

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i've searched the asus support forum of this mobo for this problem but can't find it. could you point me to it ghot?

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sure bro, here ya go :)

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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2. The BIOS on these boards is too immature yet...for example:
If i set CPU freq at 206 in BIOS it shows as 206 in HWMonitor. CPU-Z
and Everest.
If I set 208 it shows as 206.7 in all three proggies, 212 shows as
210.7...yet 210 shows as 210 lol...

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It's made that way to even out clock frequencies at certain multipliers...if I set my CPU at 266 it comes out as 266.7 (x12) to reach 3200.0 Mhz or if I set 274 it is 275.0 (x12) to hit 3300.0.

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sure bro, here ya go :)

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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ehh, i misunderstood you. i thought you've found a topic about the original problem. never mind.

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ehh, i misunderstood you. i thought you've found a topic about the original problem. never mind.

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That's my point bro....there is NOT a lot of info about this board....and most of it thinks the BIOS is flaky. So in other words you DID find all the info there is so far, more or less.

Its not just the CPU freqs that are flaky...its also the RAM timings...in this BIOS there is 2 choices for the RAM timings....auto or both .....as far as I've seen thats kinda weird. I've even had the RAM timings change themselves, without my approval. W/o a manual setting, I guess this can happen.

One of my 3.8 attempts I had the 1066 RAM set at 5-5-5-15-22-2T-2.2v it passed 3+ hours of Prime 95/blend then blue screened...I went back into the BIOS, and IT had changed the RAM timings to 5-3-3-5-auto-2T-2.2v.

Now since I'm not over in the AMD chipset forums making snide remarks about others attempts at overclocking...I'd appreciate the same respect.

I specifically titled this topic M4N32/955 problems for a reason. I wanted a topic for those with THIS mobo and THIS CPU to have a chance to work together on this...because ASUS sure isn't helping.

As far as I know this forum was not put here for chat room purposes.

There is definitely something flaky about this BIOS on this mobo with this CPU, as well as something flaky about how it interacts with other software.

So unless you are willing to go out and purchase this mobo and CPU...you're really wasting both our time.

But thx anyways for your suggestions ?

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making snide remarks about others attempts at overclocking...As far as I know this forum was not put here for chat room purposes...So unless you are willing to go out and purchase this mobo and CPU...you're really wasting both our time...

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People are just trying to help, I don't understand why you're so angry if thier anwsers don't solve your problem.

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People are just trying to help, I don't understand why you're so angry if thier anwsers don't solve your problem.

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I'm NOT angry, but I get frustrated when people with a motherboard with an entirely different chipset "try to help", as I have stated 5-6 times now. The adapters for the case fans will be arriving tomorrow and then i can remove them for the motherboard. If, like all the other nVidia chipset ASUS boards i've had, helps..then all is well. There's also a definite possibiolity that the BIOS is just flaky as this board only came out in 03/2009. Unfortunately, not many people own this board...so there is not much info to research. Further, ASUS is no help what-so-ever (unusually so)which just adds to the frustration.

So "help" from those with different chipsets, isn't going to be of any use and really just makes things more frustrating, because now I have to check everyone's system specs, before i even read the suggestions.

I really do not understand why this is so difficult to comprehend...I mean you don't take a Toyota to a Saturn repair man for advice....do you?

...and on top of everything else...this is my first AMI Bios and I really don't like it :)

you don't need the case fans if you remove the side panel. just disconnect them, leave only the cpu cooler and see what happens.

regarding my chipset, do I qualify for posting here if I used to own a K9N SLI, or do I have to own it at the time of posting?

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Its not just the CPU freqs that are flaky...its also the RAM timings...in this BIOS there is 2 choices for the RAM timings....auto or both .....as far as I've seen thats kinda weird. I've even had the RAM timings change themselves, without my approval. W/o a manual setting, I guess this can happen.
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The both setting is a manual setting. It refers to both dct0/dct1 "both" ram banks. You don't have the option to set ram timings to individual banks. Some sub timings and drive strength's can be set to individual banks by the looks of your manual. I'll agree that your bios looks to be rather flaky if the ram timings wont stay put.

I'll assume you figured the cpu-nb frequency settings. It's allows changes showing the imc frequency in relation to a 200 fsb clock. 800mhz being x4 multiplier and so forth.

As to the overclock bsod on reboots, it sounds like an extension of ram timings not sticking. It looks like the only solution may be to wait until a bios update or wait until the other 980a boars start showing up. MSI I know has one planned to come out Q3/4 of 09 and I'm sure Gigabyte will put one out as well. Sorry I can't be of more help but I've used quite a few boards with AMI bios and I can assure you it's not a symptom of the bios coming from AMI.

Here's a link to the MSI 980a board. DDR3 though : http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=pr...1&prod_no=1885

ASUS wrote a horrible manual for your mobo also, I looked at it last night. I learned nothing I didn't know about your BIOS. *tisk tisk*

I finally broke 3.7 stable.....AND it reboots lol

Thank you......"theoldtimer" :)

.and get this: one stick in channel A and one in channel B LOL Corsair Dominators (1066)...yet CPU-Z still shows DUAL lol

Ambient 20C
settings for this run:

ASUS M4N82 Deluxe [980a chipset]
AMI BIOS 0802
Win XP Pro 32bit
CPU Multi = 18.5x
FSB Freq. = 206
5-5-5-24-30-2T-2.20v
Dram freq. = 1099mhz
CPU/NB Freq. = 2472Mhz
HT Link Speed = 2.0Ghz
CPU Vcore = 1.450v
CPU/NB Voltage = 1.2125v
CPU/VDDA Voltage = Auto

HT Voltage = Auto
NB Voltage = 1.28v
nForce 200 Voltage = Auto

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Way to go ghot. You stuck with it and made it work and IMO that MB is not that easy to work with.

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.and get this: one stick in channel A and one in channel B LOL Corsair Dominators (1066)...yet CPU-Z still shows DUAL lol

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Of course it does, you have one stick in A and one stick in B. That's two channels.

Grats on 3.8 stable.


Also, try to tighten the tRC timing a bit, it's the main bandwidth maker on nvidia chipsets. I don't know why you are running 5-5-5-24, if it's stable at 5-5-5-15 you will gain alot (ALOT) more bandwidth also, just make sure to keep the tRC equal or over to tRP + tRAS. From tRC 30 to 20 you will most likely gain a good 200 MB/s and tRAS down to 12-15 area around another 100 MB/s.

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Of course it does, you have one stick in A and one stick in B. That's two channels.

Grats on 3.8 stable.


Also, try to tighten the tRC timing a bit, it's the main bandwidth maker on nvidia chipsets. I don't know why you are running 5-5-5-24, if it's stable at 5-5-5-15 you will gain alot (ALOT) more bandwidth also, just make sure to keep the tRC equal or over to tRP + tRAS. From tRC 30 to 20 you will most likely gain a good 200 MB/s and tRAS down to 12-15 area around another 100 MB/s.

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well the motherboard manual says:

Due to CPU limitations.......DDR2 1066 Ram is supported for one DIMM per channel only...

and on the previous page....

the yellow slots are labeled DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B1...the black are labeled....DIMM_A2 and DIMM_B2....

....in either case with DDR2 1066 RAM in either 2 black slots OR a black and a yellow slot...I still have same issue....only now...and probably before...I can reboot ONLY on second try at anything over 3.7Ghz...its stable IN Windows...it's still just the reboot problem. At 3.7Ghz it reboots fine...EVERY time lol

The only change I've found is do NOT run Everest in the background when you are running Prime 95 :)

.and bro I've long ago tried ALL the variations on the RAM timings....and done THAT on 3 different sets of RAM. From the screens above lowering any RAM timing just makes it BSOD at boot ...faster :/

Just got then sama board and cpu.:up:
ghot, how´s the vdrop on your board?
I have 1,4v in bios, in windows cpu-z shows 1,376v idle and 1,344v-1,360v under load. Sucks a bit.:down:

mine does same thing in CPU-Z, and I don't know why.....however....In Core temp it shows exactly what it is set in the BIOS and doesn't fluctuate???

OK, what would cause 2 cores to fall behind the other two.....it started when EITHER the 12K FFT's started or I started talking on CELL phone...both occurred at same time??

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For this run I switched from Corsair 1066 2x2GB Dominators to OCZ 1066 2x 2GB (OCZ2P1066AM4GX, made for use with AMD Chips), which fit in the yellow slots as recommended by motherboard manual for best overclocking, AND fit under my CPU cooler ;)

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Did you try FSB clocking? I'd much rather run OCCT for 2 hours on small FFT than Prime95 for 12 and a chance at killing the mobo...

yea I have and it works also NOW that I found the problem i was having with the 0x0000000A stop errors at every other reboot.....

in the 0802 AMI BIOS the Suspend Mode is set to auto by default. I don't even USE Suspend Mode......I set it to S1/POS and no more 0x0000000A stop errors at Windows Boot progress bar loading screen :/

The ONLY reason I thought of that, was that my older ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe 590 chipset board with the 1603 Award BIOS didnt have an Auto option....and since I don't use Suspend anyways...I set that one at S1/POS.

Best I never meet the BIOS engineer who put the Auto setting in the 0802 AMI BIOS.....2 months and 250$ in different memory companies and configs for nothing :/

OK what subsytem causes this???


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Blue screened at 23:38

1st SS all cores still in sync...2nd and 3rd SS cores 2 & 4 lagging bad???

Cpu Multi = 19x
FSB = 200
Dram freq = 1066
CPU/NB = 2600
HT Link Speed = 2000
CPU Volt = 1.450
CPU/NB volt = 1.2125
CPU VDDA = Auto
HT Volt = Auto
NB Volt = 1.20

DRAM Timing: 5-5-5-15-22-2T-2.20V

Memory Config
MemClk Tristate C3/AltVid = Disabled
Mem Hole remapping = Enabled
DCT Unganged mode = Enabled
Power Down Enable = Disabled

The lag is caused by other background processes, that's normal windows behaviour. Setting higher priority for the threads will help, but can also make your system unresponsive, so be careful.

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...Blue screened at 23:38
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Cpu Multi = 19x
FSB = 200
Dram freq = 1066
CPU/NB = 2600
HT Link Speed = 2000
CPU Volt = 1.450
CPU/NB volt = 1.2125
CPU VDDA = Auto
HT Volt = Auto
NB Volt = 1.20

DRAM Timing: 5-5-5-15-22-2T-2.20V

Memory Config
MemClk Tristate C3/AltVid = Disabled
Mem Hole remapping = Enabled
DCT Unganged mode = Enabled
Power Down Enable = Disabled

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Is 1.45v all you are willing to put in it? 3 hours and a crash isn't stable. I like to use OCCT because it tells (tries) you what subsystem went bad, and which core errored. I've passed 2 hour prime blend then failed OCCT small fft in 19 minutes.

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Is 1.45v all you are willing to put in it? 3 hours and a crash isn't stable. I like to use OCCT because it tells (tries) you what subsystem went bad, and which core errored. I've passed 2 hour prime blend then failed OCCT small fft in 19 minutes.

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No....it doesnt crash...it just blue screen w/e I run a monitoring program.....like everest or Core temp..it would have run prime all night...btw you have to run prime for 3 hours minimum...either that or manually set the size range for the FFT's. As for OCCT it won't let me change the test...at least the latest version...it set on medium test, and I can't change it...its greyed out.

If I don't turn on any of those monitor apps above 3.7ghz, it runs fine no problems, as soon as i do....blue screen.

...and I've tried ALL voltages....that's just where it WANTS to be :)

at 3.7ghz its 24/7 stable with ALL monitoring apps running at only 1.425v.

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...btw you have to run prime for 3 hours minimum...either that or manually set the size range for the FFT's.

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I manually set it to blend, stopped after 2 hours , 40 minutes...complete pass, OCCT failed in 19 minutes and you could see the timer kind of unstabily counting (not in time)

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As for OCCT it won't let me change the test...at least the latest version...it set on medium test, and I can't change it...its greyed out.

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Because at the top it says "Auto 1 hr" with a dropdown box. You need to switch that to custom to switch FFT's. (Small, med, large)

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If I don't turn on any of those monitor apps above 3.7ghz, it runs fine no problems, as soon as i do....blue screen.

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Only over 3.7 Ghz? Try multitasking and running multiple tasks as you prime or whatever program you choose...OCCT has monitoring built-in, so I'm sure that would be a better stability test for you in this situation.

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...and I've tried ALL voltages....that's just where it WANTS to be :)

at 3.7ghz its 24/7 stable with ALL monitoring apps running at only 1.425v.

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:up:

I know a lotta ppl like OCCT....I don't....as far as I'm concerned Prime is the way to go....well Orthos was the best....but it wont run on four cores, even WITH 2 instances and the affinities set :/

OCCT really screws up your registry bro, even after you uninstall or remove it ^^

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I know a lotta ppl like OCCT....I don't....as far as I'm concerned Prime is the way to go....well Orthos was the best....but it wont run on four cores, even WITH 2 instances and the affinities set :/

OCCT really screws up your registry bro, even after you uninstall or remove it ^^

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That's something I've not heard before...it loads and unloads drivers every time it starts. It doesn't even make registry keys if I'm right...:shrug:

get JV16 powertools and run registry finder for OCCT :)

the vcore you see in coretemp is the VID setting, wich is what you set in the BIOS, and not the actual vcore..

i have an ASUS M4N72-E board, with Nforce 750 chipset, and set at VID 1.475, i get 1.42V IDLE, 1.38V LOADED, monitored with CPU-Z wich actually shows very close to the real voltage on this MB. i have checked with MM.

Im lost...I know what the vcore is and about vdroop???

i reffered to this "mine does same thing in CPU-Z, and I don't know why.....however....In Core temp it shows exactly what it is set in the BIOS and doesn't fluctuate???"

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the vcore you see in coretemp is the VID setting, wich is what you set in the BIOS, and not the actual vcore..

i have an ASUS M4N72-E board, with Nforce 750 chipset, and set at VID 1.475, i get 1.42V IDLE, 1.38V LOADED, monitored with CPU-Z wich actually shows very close to the real voltage on this MB. i have checked with MM.

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Loadline Calibration?

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Loadline Calibration?

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what the h is that ?? ^^

i want to get rid of the voltage drop on LOAD, if that is possible.. at 1.55V the drop is 0.05 volts..

Nevermind...something ASUS puts in some BIOSes for some mobo's...gets rid of vdroop.

Er, I think BeepBeep2 means to use it since you're experiencing vdroop, not to nevermind it.

i dont think i have this setting in my BIOS, but im going to check one more time..

time to go to bed.. its 02.00 at the night here in sweden :)

hey ghot, it seems i have the same problem on my rig..

cant get it to reboot with higher than 3.7ghz. i can run 3.9ghz prime all day long, but when i reboot it says " overclocking failed "..

very odd, cause it seems to run very stable at 3.9ghz, and then backing down to 3.8 its definitely stable, but still i cant reboot without getting oc failed..

It seems to be monitoring software causing the problem....AFTER passing 3+ hours of Prime95/Blend....I turn on ANY monitoring software, I get BSOD at reboot. Core Temp, Everest, HwMonitor etc....they all do it. :/

Well, the monitor software isn't the CAUSE of the problem...it just triggers it.

New bios out for M4N82 Deluxe, someone test it.:)

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It seems to be monitoring software causing the problem....AFTER passing 3+ hours of Prime95/Blend....I turn on ANY monitoring software, I get BSOD at reboot. Core Temp, Everest, HwMonitor etc....they all do it. :/

Well, the monitor software isn't the CAUSE of the problem...it just triggers it.

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I get still get stop errors above 3.8ghz on m3a79-t-deluxe not temps or voltage it's just a random error. :shrug:

"M4N82 DELUXE BIOS 0906
Fix the system may hang when resuming from S3."

Doesn't look like it gonna help with OCing :(

i have same board and CPU here for rig testing, ram timings loose, NB sitting at 1800 mhz, cannot get above 3.8 stable, no boot at 3.9 Win XP/Win 7, your CPU is crapping out at 3.8 gig same as mine, accept it and move on, and consider your excisting overclock enough.

you may not find this as what you want to hear, but sometimes the obvious is the answer. Bro

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i have same board and CPU here for rig testing, ram timings loose, NB sitting at 1800 mhz, cannot get above 3.8 stable, no boot at 3.9 Win XP/Win 7, your CPU is crapping out at 3.8 gig same as mine, accept it and move on, and consider your excisting overclock enough.

you may not find this as what you want to hear, but sometimes the obvious is the answer. Bro

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Bad attitude bro ....especially since nVidia just released new chipset drivers ;)

w/o even trying hard....
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i have same board and CPU here for rig testing, ram timings loose, NB sitting at 1800 mhz, cannot get above 3.8 stable, no boot at 3.9 Win XP/Win 7, your CPU is crapping out at 3.8 gig same as mine, accept it and move on, and consider your excisting overclock enough.

you may not find this as what you want to hear, but sometimes the obvious is the answer. Bro

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indeed.. not every chip/mobo/ram is made to perform the same as others. ghot just had a bad draw... just like poker, theres skill involved but theres also much luck involved
why is ghot posting his idle temps??

My bad....wrong pic :)

here ya go....

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....too small a screen too many pics :/


..the point here is that i finally broke 3.7 with the new 15.45 nVidia chipset drivers ;) Btw the new chipset drivers fixed a FIOS 20/20 internet annoyance I had also....the icon by the clock used to always say acquiring address even though it WAS connected lol.....the new drivers fixed that also.

Also I finally settled on 3816 (206x18.5) and 5-5-5-24-30-2T-2.2v....in the SS above it was set at (208x18.5) and as you can see in CPU-Z this board doesn't seem to like 208...apparently it doesn't like any CPU freq that DOESN'T follow this pattern: 202, 206, 210, 214, 218 etc....the BIOS only allows it to be upped 2Mhz at a click and for some reason....204 reads 204.7.....208 reads 206.7 etc etc. from the ASUS forums it seems this board has some problem with one or more of its various timing clocks :/


Look at the Everest Mem bench in both screen shots....they were run on the exact same settings...with all the same background processes running....but that was at 208 CPU freq...at 206....they stay the same bench after bench after bench.

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i have same board and CPU here for rig testing, ram timings loose, NB sitting at 1800 mhz, cannot get above 3.8 stable, no boot at 3.9 Win XP/Win 7, your CPU is crapping out at 3.8 gig same as mine, accept it and move on, and consider your excisting overclock enough.

you may not find this as what you want to hear, but sometimes the obvious is the answer. Bro

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My bad....wrong pic :)

here ya go....

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....too small a screen too many pics :/


..the point here is that i finally broke 3.7 with the new 15.45 nVidia chipset drivers ;) Btw the new chipset drivers fixed a FIOS 20/20 internet annoyance I had also....the icon by the clock used to always say acquiring address even though it WAS connected lol.....the new drivers fixed that also.

Also I finally settled on 3816 (206x18.5) and 5-5-5-24-30-2T-2.2v....in the SS above it was set at (208x18.5) and as you can see in CPU-Z this board doesn't seem to like 208...apparently it doesn't like any CPU freq that DOESN'T follow this pattern: 202, 206, 210, 214, 218 etc....the BIOS only allows it to be upped 2Mhz at a click and for some reason....204 reads 204.7.....208 reads 206.7 etc etc. from the ASUS forums it seems this board has some problem with one or more of its various timing clocks :/


Look at the Everest Mem bench in both screen shots....they were run on the exact same settings...with all the same background processes running....but that was at 208 CPU freq...at 206....they stay the same bench after bench after bench.

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i stick by what i said, without any attitude, your CPU is crapping out at 3.8 gig, you have managed 3816 mhz, well done.

oddly enough you have very similar settings to me, only differance is the HTT, yours is 206 i have 200.

3.9 gig will be a bridge too far for you, you might get a suicide screeny using AOD, but thats it.