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Hey people, lets start a new thread for the ddr3 board, as it acts very different from the ddr2 board, the first board i got was defective, the 2nd board i got had scratches on it, the 3rd one will be here shortly..............please share your settings and experiences with this board :up:
Sorry mod can you change the title to P5Q3 please, sorry about that.
Fixed.
My board should be waiting for me at my place this Monday, but I won't be back there before Friday...so...it'll have to wait a bit.
But yeah, I'm going to push it from day 1 ( as always :D )
dont like this 8x 8x thingy :)
sure 600 fsb possible, but PL12 and loos timings right.......
dont get the hype?
i were getting 565 no sweat on my x48 pl 9 CL8 on ram....
whats the deal? :)
Don't jump into conclusions that easy Infa.
From my initial P45 tests it looks like the P45 has tighter timings, and the performance given at each P.L. is equal to P35s/X48s at a single P.L. lower.
For example 400MHz FSB 333MHz Strap P.L. 7 on P45 equals 400MHz FSB 266MHz Strap P.L. 6 on P35/X48.
565MHz isn't close to 600MHz at all when it comes to benchmarking... 565MHz FSB = 5367MHz @ 9.5x ... 600MHz FSB = 5700MHz... even 600MHz FSB to 610MHz makes a "big" difference :)
Before I play with those P45 mobos more and get to squeeze every single MHz and performance/tweak out of them, I'll say if they're worth it or not ( over P35/X48 ).
I hope my next board works, if not im going to return it, and grab an x48.
Thank You...you couldn't have said it better...and personally, I think the default PL settings for P45 right now is a BIOS issue which will probably get sorted out with future revisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
The Express Gate operating system looks awesome. Before you know it, you'll be able to skip windows and then bench your CPU.
One day I'd like to see gamers bipass windows and run their games straight from Bios instead of wasting resources on so many lame windows services, like the old days using DOS. I mean common, your average user isn't going to tweak their PC. This would actually help the common person run their games better for many years, less tweaking done in windows. As long as the gaming specs don't get out of control. If thats the future, we might finally have systems that last more than 5 years for gaming, besides buying these damn g-cards. :DQuote:
The OS takes about 10 seconds to load and this version offers internet browsing, Skype calls, Pidgin messaging client and a new photo application, which supports USB drives as well as the systems hard drives.
OK, ran into some problems, can someone please help me out, someone with this board, i cannot boot into windows setup, or into a pre installed windows, i get a bsod or just a hung screen, even on setup defaults, this is insane, i got this board for $200 out the door, so id like to keep it if i can, am i missing some settings or something, im not new to overclocking at all, this board is a POS so far, can someone help me to get it to work, thanks...............to sum it up, i get a bsod, or a frozen screen trying to install windows, even on all default settings, this is un heard of, my ram is the OCZ 4GB reaper kit, 1600mhz 7-7-7 1.9v
My board is at my place only problem is...I'm not at my place at the moment :p:
You said that you tried a "previously used" Windows install as well. Did you try booting at Safe Mode with that installation ?
I assume that we're talking about a Intel P/X series install right ? The nFORCE install ( you had a nF790i board lately if I recall correctly, right ? ) won't work with any P/X intel chipset board.
Have you tried setting the memory timings/subtimings & chipset timings & voltages manually ?
No, it wont even boot to go into windows setup so i can do a clean install, ive tried several manual settings for the memory with no luck, more voltage with no luck, let me know if you have any update BenchZowner, appreciate the help.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I'll be back at my place this Friday, if you haven't figured it out by then, it'll be my pleasure to help you anyway I can :)
Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
not sure if this input helps so take it with a grain of salt
my P5Q with PC8500 reaper DDR2 didn't like this board and did similar things
Iam waiting on some different ram to come in.
might try and up the NB volts to 1.3-1.4v and put PLL to 1.6 to 1.7v
also try with one stick at first
I've got a 4GB OCZ Platinum 1600mhz 7-7-7 1.9V kit sitting here with exactly the same problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
They're brand new so I'm unsure if they're working correctly or if it's the board/me as I don't have another system to test them in.
I tried playing with the DRAM clock skews and managed to boot into windows (installed with a 2gb kit of ballistix) but when put under any load, the system just locks.
If you figure anything out, can let me know too please?
otherwise I think I'm just going to try and return them :(
[edit] OT: has anyone tried spdtool on this board?
@Pyr0:
SPDtool won't "work properly" before W1zzard updates it with the new "chipset info".
If you're going to flash your RAMs SPDs, I suggest you to do it on another board ( non P45 ).
For the memory, it might be a RAM compatibility issue.
Did you guys try running memtest86+ v2.01 ?
I cannot run my crucial ballistix at ddr3-1600 cl7 on P5Q3 Deluxe board, they won't boot at ddr3-1600, can only run them at DDR3-1333. The memory runs perfectly stable at ddr3-1600 7-7-7-1T 1.74v on P5E64 EVO board.
So far I'm very disappointed in P5Q3 Deluxe. Board will not boot if my dvd-rw drive's connected to the IDE port with express gate on. I sent the board back.
IMO, P5E64 EVO is the best board at present time, although it's a X48 board. I can run my ballistix 4x1GB at 800MHz 7-7-7-1T PL6 with only 1.76v vdimm, 1.29v vNB, 2x1GB at 900MHz 7-7-7-1T PL6 with 1.35v vNB. Far better than this POS P5Q3 Dlx.
:)
Did you try memtest v2.01? Most likely your memory isn't stable on that board.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
lo m8Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I figured as much, but wondered if it might have been an os/driver prob with it mentioning the SMBus driver (in xp64 atm, prime95'ing)
Yup, the memory fails almost instantly unless I play with the skews and then I let it run a couple of passes before getting bored :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
That was how I managed to even get them to boot into windows, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing.
I definitely think things could improve with some bios releases, but I definitely feel that the P5K3 was an easier board to work with, even the initial bios was really stable
The ram or the board are not defective, its just the board doesnt like this ram, newest bios 0704 says it fixes compatibility issues with some memory modules, but it doesnt fix the problem with this kit...........how is the dfi x48 ddr3 board, im about to return this and spend an extra 100 bucks for that, ive got 4850 crossfire anyway.
Seems dfi x48 t3r has some bios issue. Won't work with certain rams at cl7. Strongly suggest P5E64 EVO.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Anyone else have this kit and needs some help post in this thread
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...023#post278023
So
Im testing 1600EB 4GB kit, had this ram well over 1800MHZ on P5E3 Premium.
1600 no way, 1500 no way, 1400 ish, 1333 jeez is it fast ;)
This board is sooooo tight and must be at 1N by default it just hates 128IC's x16, to much load me thinks.
I will contat Asus and see what I can do with bios, for now try to keep the 4GB kits around 1333 6-6-6-(18>22 for TRAS) and test tRD at 6 or 7 tRFC can be 48 clocks.
This board is really fast with the ram like this, probably faster than 7-7-7-24 2T 1600 so do not think you are giving performance away as you are not.
more soon
you just needed to alter the skew settings, I have had awesome results with the P5Q deluxe all the way to 1200mhz with flex II 1150, its not plug and play though...you haveQuote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
to get tweaking skews etc
Thanks for the info tony. good advice as always :up:
Please let us know if any update has come from ASUS about this situation, thanks.
AC FSB TRY:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9...3866id0.th.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379953
Completely OOB mobo without any preps, seems to be nice enough for some high numbers as well.
Chasing ASUS Commando MB ? Possible, very easily:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4...5970hm2.th.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379965
Tony just replied to my thread in the OCZ forums, he said that ASUS is aware of this issue, its motherboard related and has to do with 2gb dimms, also he said it would be atleast a week before anything gets fixed, im going to wait it out, as i like the board, asus is aware and is working on it.
I got the same problem but with 1GB sticks of OCZ3P18002GK; so it is not just with 2GB it is with the chips used on these sticks I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
anyone know how to set the command rate in the bios? my ram likes 1t and not 2t.
to fix the ram problem just make sure you set your ROW REFRESH CYCLE TIME to 72 or higher. that is the solution to that problem on all the ddr3 asus boards i've owned... which is like all the ones they have had out so far. LOL! good luck.
little validation @ 641mhz with PL 10
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379602
what ram are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by zeuverclok
chell shock 14400 cas 7 ( D9GTR):up:
Nice 1 GAR, I'll definitely be following that thread :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
can't post there though as it's not allowed ;)
Thanks for testing Tony, makes me feel much better knowing you're on the case :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Today I swapped my quad out for my E8500 and tried your suggested settings with the OCZ3P16004GK kit.
1333, 6-6-6-22, 333 strap, tRD 7, 1.72V and 1.20V for the NB. (all skews, gtl's etc on auto)
These settings passed 3 complete loops of Memtest 2.01 and allowed me to actually complete a Windows XP x64 install.
I'm currently running HCI Memtest as I type. Hopefully it'll keep going
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8...34gbrq8.th.jpg
Doesn't seem very fast though
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5...6622de2.th.png
Thanks for the help so far Tony, looking forward to any more progress :up:
[edit] :(
Memory error found copying between 0x24278f4c, 0x94048e38, difference =40000000
after 5hrs 56min
So i got windows to install somewhat with 6-6-6-22, but prime fails within 45 mins, i went away from nvidia to get away from problems, but this board is making the 790i look so good right now...........which ddr3 4gb kits actually work with this board?
GAR, issue you mentioned is already addressed. As large number of users are facing this, i introduce new build:
Asus P5Q3 Deluxe BIOS build 0801
Well, it is a step in the right direction. However, all it got me was a boot into the Windows XP screen with the progress bar at the bottom. After that the PC rebooted and refused to POST again. Meanwhile, all I'm trying to do is run the RAM [OCZ3P18002GK] at a mere 1333Mhz with a relaxed timing of 7-7-7-21-2T [it is rated for 1800 at 8-8-8-20-2T]. I even tried running it at 9-9-9-27-2T and the same tease happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
I swear this is a 1N 2N issue, I have been beating on this for 6 hrs now, new 0801 build, ram proven to 1800MHZ on the P5E3 Premium and it won't load Vista at 1333 on this P5Q3, asus support are blaming the ram...how the hell can they do that when I can boot on their X48 board at 1800MHZ with the same dimms???
1GB modules seem a lot better, specially Micron and Samsung based, but they always do better as 1N is little stresss to them and the chipset, the issues come with 128's and 16IC's, the load is just to much.
Im trying to get SPD looked into also, maybe there is something we missed or the board does not like...as i said 1600eb 4GB kit running 1800MHZ on the X48 proves the ram is ok but im for sure missing something on this P45.
Regards posting on the OCZ forum, there are rules on the support section. if you wish i can move it to performance tuning and anyone can post and add to threads. The rules were put in place to stop end users jumping on others users threads....you have to post your own thread in support to make sure your issue is dealt with.
Hi Tony,
So, is the 0801 bios any good?
Does it improve anything for us? (do the lowest voltage settings still work like auto?)
I dropped the tRFC to 48 and the Northbridge to 1.18V after it failed and have just passed 8hrs of HCI memtest @ 1333, 6-6-6-22
compare off a board running 2N to this one running the same cpu and ram frequency, then you see a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
im beating my head against the wall while typing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
No bios I have tested is any good yet...none of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Well, the P5Q3 Deluxe's BIOS is not like the P5E3 Premium, instead of telling you that you are modifying the Command Rate, it is called something different [which I do not remember right now], and the options are AUTO, 1 clock, 2 clocks, and 3 clocks. I assumed that is where the CR is modified, I have selected 2 and 3 clocks so far and both get me to the same result.
Gentlemen
How many of you with the P5Q3 deluxe and OCZ memory are running Western Digital hdd's?
I run Raptors here, i see one of 2 of you run similar.
Please post up if you have WD drives.
Pre to pre is not command rate :) trust meQuote:
Originally Posted by Telo
there is no option in P45 bios to adjust 1N to 2N
I have my OS on a single Raptor 150 (currently in ide mode if that makes any diff)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
[edit] 8.5hrs passed...
[edit2] do you think there's any chance of getting a 1N/2N option added?
Im trying to get it added yes
you running off the marvell controller? Im double checking as I just moved over to it and my errors have all disapeared
I use 80GBs Seagates for OS on the PC in question; they are attached to the ICH10, not the Marvell controller. BUT it does have 2 WD HDDs for storage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
i'm on the intel ich10 portsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Got my board today. RAM is A-Data 800MHz 7-7-7.
Getting nowhere fast so far, but im only 3 hours in. First DDR3 setup, so im expecting a war of attrition.
Tips, tricks etc welcome, and if anyone needs something tried, give me a shout :)
If you can remove the WD's or move them to the marvel ports, clear the cmos and re setup up the board. Also try with tRFC at 48, made a huge difference here.
Ive got a WD 640 here.....so 0801 does nothing????Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
At least not for me it didn't. I just checked with my brother, the WD drives aren't even plugged in he told me; they are supposed to connect to an IDE PCI expansion card which has no data cable attached to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Guys
1600 looks a nogo, board limit not ram, now 1333 is fast and I do have it stable here with some help from Pry0 who has been testing a little longer than I have.
This is with 4GB 2x2, 2x1 will clock a lot higher ;)
I will post some settings soon, its very basic and is working well.
More soon
Tony, can you give me some info on which timings to use for 475fsb, also which voltages you used...........I have the 4GB GK reaper kit, thanks.....any info you can give for this board and this memory kit, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Any help is greatly appreciated as I don't really want to go the RAM route [eventhough I do have an RMA case open].Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
GAR, I think by him saying 1600 is a no go, that means anything beyond that should be a no go as well. Let's just hope they fix it soon.
I know, i was hoping he can give me some advice on 475fsb and 1456 memory settings....i can run prime for 45mins, then it freezes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
just posting to say the board/mem managed a 12hr run in hci memtest @ 1333 6-6-6-22
will try pushing the fsb up l8r
thanks for the chat Tony :up:
Can you guys please share your info with us, help us get stability as well, which settings you used, which fsb, which timings, and which voltages, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
ASUS is working on a BIOS update to get us to 1600 stable (2x2GB), along with 1N/2N command options. However, we have a fundamental chipset limitation with the current A2 P45 when it comes to loading the memory controller.
The P45 was only qualified by Intel to 1333 DDR3, anything over is truly overclocking in this regard (really serious about this, no wink winks about it really doing 1600+ but Intel just wants to sell more X48s). I firmly believe after conversations this week with several engineers that there is not that much headroom in this chipset when it comes to high clocks and memory loads (4GB/8GB DDR3 configs, 2GB is working up to 2000 for me).
That said, this chipset is very fast when setup properly at DDR3-1333 with 4/8GB. It appears from all indications that we can get to 1600 2N (probably CAS7 or higher though) in a stable manner with the 2GB modules. If you want to do high memory clocks (1600+) with 4GB or 8GB at tight timings, buy the X48 at this point. Otherwise, the P45 is a very good solution as it was originally designed, a mid-range chipset upgrade to the P35 that will be around a long time until the Nehalem family (processor/chipsets) is available in the mid to low market sectors.
I will have an answer on the WD problems tomorrow. It seems to be affecting the press review samples at this point, have a retail kit arriving today to test.
At least that is progress. But, my issue is this, I keep hearing that they are working on fixing the 4GB/8GB RAM issue and that 2GB is supported all the way to 2000Mhz; then how come my 1800Mhz 2x 1GB kit can't even POST? What really makes me laugh about the whole issue is that this build I'm making is not going to be OC'ed much if any and I can't even achieve stock settings on it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I was just testing for stability at stock CPU speed/FSBQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Will try pushing the FSB up while keeping mem on a divider shortly
I posted my settings in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=35
The only changes I made to run HCI for 12hrs was to set tRFC to 48 and drop the NB voltage to 1.18v
[edit] other voltages, were set to one notch above minimums since lowest values act like auto when oc'ing
How are the setups with 2x1gb doing? I personally don't care about 4gb ram, just DDR3 with better FSB than X48. Is it serving that purpose at least?
I'm not sure if this will help as none of the guys with Corsair memory posted here, but I would like to share some of the settings, and screenshots I used to run 2x2GB at DDR3-1600+ with our Samsung based 4GB kit - TW3X4G1800C8DF.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
First up, all default latencies nad memory settings - Performance Level @ PL=Auto (8) and Clock Twister @ Auto. This is with 0702 BIOS:
P5Q3 Deluxe, C2D E8500 @ 400FSB / DDR3-1600 CL7 @ 1.80v - 0702 BIOS
This is TW3X4G1800C8DF based on Samsung ICs - 2 x 2GB DDR3-1800 8-8-8-24
--- Click image for larger version ---
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt...1600_small.jpg
P5Q3 Deluxe, C2D E8500 @ 400FSB / DDR3-1600 CL7 @ 1.80v - SPi + M4W
This is TW3X4G1800C8DF based on Samsung ICs - 2 x 2GB DDR3-1800 8-8-8-24
--- Click image for larger version ---
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt...auto_small.gif
... BIOS update to 0801, then a little bump in memory frequency, plus Performance Level @ PL=6 and Clock Twister @ Stronger for boost in Read and Latency scores:
P5Q3 Deluxe, C2D E8500 @ 415FSB / DDR3-1660 CL7 @ 1.90v - 0801 BIOS
This is TW3X4G1800C8DF based on Samsung ICs - 2 x 2GB DDR3-1800 8-8-8-24
--- Click image for larger version ---
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt...1660_small.jpg
P5Q3 Deluxe, C2D E8500 @ 415FSB / DDR3-1660 CL7 @ 1.90v - SPi + M4W
This is TW3X4G1800C8DF based on Samsung ICs - 2 x 2GB DDR3-1800 8-8-8-24
--- Click image for larger version ---
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt..._PL6_small.gif
I hope it still helps :)
:toast:
I am going to be honest with you here, 2GB kits are not giving us huge issues on P45, hence I have spent more time with the 4GB kits hoping to help get some solid answers as to what these boards will actually do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
Now that does not mean I will not test with 42GB and I will try to show the tweaks needed to get the board clocking well. All I ask is for now clock down a little, tighten the timings and enjoy your PC. let me sort out this 4GB mess we are seeing then I can move on.
Bachus
Do it with Micron modules, get 10 kits from retail stock at newegg or ZZF and test on 5 boards, then we will know exactly what the story is. Posting here with this is doing nothing more than gloating in the face of a competitors customer and i hope you remove your post.
Do you see me doing this to corsairs customers?
Thanks tony, how high FSB can we set???? while keeping memory low on the frequency.....also Tony, are these Micron modules??? in the 4GB 1600 GK???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I'm posting in a good will, Tony. This is "P5Q3 Deluxe discussion thread", not "OCZ support thread", therefore I don't think there is a problem. I never come in to competitors dedicated support threads as it may be seen as intruding on my part. But this is different situation. I wanted to add the settings that seem to work, not particularly for Corsair customers, but for all end-users experiencing problems with 2x2GB @ DDR3-1600 on Asus P5Q3 Deluxe. I don't intend to remove the post, as it might be useful for others, I hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Cheer up Tony! :)
P.S. Micron B-die based 2x2GB works as well. The settings I posted are with retail kit of Samsung based 4GB that I pulled from stock. Just ignore the post if you don't think it's useful, Tony. Take care!
Bachus
these guys have Micron based modules not friggin samsung, I have samsung here, should i post and say the board is crap with micron but awesome with my $500 4GB 1800MHZ kit and see how the customers feel then?
cheer up? man engage brain! I was fine till you lost yours ;)
Boys ! Stop making personal trips ! This is P5Q3 thread, not which brand is better.
It's easy to be checked. If you're not sure, your board is affected, PM for details. BTW. it affects then all HDDs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Not exactly, WD does not work or is flaky on the two press boards (which do not have the Marvell controller). Hitachi and Seagate drives are fine on the same board, just got the retail board and it works fine. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Please try the Micron 2x2GB 1600 C7 kit, because the Micron kits I have do not go above 1460 in a stable manner, does matter which manufacturer and I have several from C to Z. ;) I will say this, the retail board is much better behaved than the press sample boards, glad we did not review it yet. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
I'm working on it, Gary. I'm running at exactly the same settings with 4GB kit of 1600C7DHXIN v3.1 which is based on Micron Rev.B. So far so good at DDR3-1660; I will post a screenshot once I get back...Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Does your retail board behave the same? What Rev. is it - 1.01G or 1.02G? Also, is it Micron Rev.B (D9GTR / D9GTS, etc.) or Micron Rev.D (D9JNL/D9JNM, etc.) that you're testing?
EDIT: That should do it for now... As promised, Micron Rev.B 1600C7DHXIN 4GB kit. I did not change any settings in BIOS compared to previous DDR3-1660 test with Samsung...
P5Q3 Deluxe, C2D E8500 @ 415FSB / DDR3-1660 CL7 @ 1.90v - SPi + M4W
This is TWIN3X4096-1600C7DFIN based on Micron Rev.B ICs - 2 x 2GB DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20
--- Click image for larger version ---
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt..._PL6_small.gif
Easy guys. Samsung to 2.1Ghz and I will test Micron next. bios 0702
Im on a retail sample with seagate HD, not sure why the HD would make a diff.
The issue with my board is the primary PCIE slot is deaded and replacement inbound.
I tried the lower divider with tighter timings idea and the same crap came up. Then I tried the lower divider with the famous 6-6-6-22 fix and it got into windows. So I got greedy and did 6-6-6-18 and it went in as well. My brother doesn't know jack about FSBs and RAM Mhz and all that so I can buy some time until everything is sorted out I guess. In retrospect, I did try 1066Mhz RAM with a 5-5-5-15 timing before and was no go, so I'm guessing this is the neighborhood my brother will have to live in until ASUS sorts out their RAM issues. Man I tell you, funny how you get more support from bystanders than from the friggin' truck that cause the accident, sort of speak; this just makes me 1000% more confident that I did the right thing by dropping the P5E3 Premium for the BlackOps. I have had the BlackOps for just over 2 weeks and I have seen like 10 BIOS revisions out so far, but, that is for another place and time. Please keep pressing on ASUS to sort out support for us, the small people with the 2GB kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
On 1.02G and it is much better, PM sent about the kits that do not work. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
OK, i gave up, even at low settings, 1333mhz i couldnt get prime belnd to stay stable, i have since ordered this kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145200
Hope these are better, they will be here friday.
That kit more than likely will work, but it has a CAS9 off the bat; might be a bit slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Can't you just downclock the current RAM you got and turn it back up once this issue gets resolved? That's what I'm doing, but then again, I can't return my RAM since I had it longer than 1 month. I have 2x 2GB kits, so for me to change the RAM will mean a loss for my brother of over $500.
Guys chill out.
All of you, especially the "big heads" ( Bachus, Tony, bingo13 ) you've been in the industry for a while, more than enough to know that sometimes a person will come up with a "trick" that gets the job done ( high clocks with 4GB (2*2GB) Kits in this case )...
This time it was X, maybe the next time it'll be Y, and maybe the next time Z.
You don't have to start beaching at each other, neither you have something to separate.
Gary ( bingo13 ) which revision is the "final" ( retail ) one m8 ?
I tried everything, it just refuses to work right.....i was going to downlclock and wait, but it just doesnt want to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
Give DDR3-1066 a try, with 5-5-5-15 or 6-6-6-18 on 1.80v to the vDIMM and 1.24 to the vNB.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
PS: If you are interested, there is an auction on eBay for 2x 2GB kits of CellShock 1800Mhz. Right now it is at $390 or so plus $15 shipping in the USA. No, I'm neither the seller nor involved in the sale. I was going to bid until the RAM started to work at 1066Mhz. The regular price for a 2GB kit is $420 from tankguys.com and $368 from memoryc.com plus a hefty shipping charge. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=002 1HR left on it though.
I have tried to stay out of it by explaining we have more problems than just a BIOS fix (which should be here shortly by the way), the chipset is not designed for what some of us expect it to do and that is match X48 at a lower cost. It just was not designed to do it, but it does not mean that it's a bad chipset, far from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
That said, I am not going to step in the memory land mine field right now as every kit I have from C to Z is not getting to 1600 so it does no good to throw modules at each other. :D However, obviously there are some kits that work and figuring out how to get the rest working correctly is something ASUS is working on feverishly right now. I am convinced it will be fixed shortly. :up:
Rev 1.02G with the Marvell/SiL controller chips is the final production version and is the one I received in a retail kit today. It is working fine, except for the memory clocking problems. I will say this, the board is very fast with 4GB at DDR3-1333 right now with all kits, it just needs a little fine tuning is all. update - I am getting ready to try a new Micron kit that just arrived on a very late UPS truck, so maybe it will bring success tonight. Gotta love drivers who go the extra mile for you. :clap:
Checked my notes and I think I figured a few things out for getting the memory up there.
Try dropping back to the 333 strap. I will test more with Microns when I switch rigs back.
I had the Samsungs bugging at 1600Mhz.
A fast tool for me is a Vista install CD, I boot to it and use the memory checker, it will fail within 20%, usually around 7%
Thanks for the reply Gary :)
And yes Asus is really working hard nowadays to get some new BIOSes with lots of fixes for various boards, really nice to see that happening myself ;)
Mine should be a retail version as well.
The first two weeks will be dedicated to bug detection and "hardcore" overclocking ( 2*1GB RAM of course ), and then I'll start working for the review.
First targets... break 600MHz FSB with "the supposed to be magic E8500 Q807" and break DDR3-2000 7-6-6/7-6-5 with the marvelous CellShock 2GB D9GTR kit.
the main issue with most of these high performance boards is that they are tuned with 2x1GB, next to no one uses 2x1's any more going by sales figures I see, as prices on DDR3 come down even more it will get even worse with many option for 4x2GB.
Now my overall point in all of this was this.
Forget I work for OCZ, the board is having issues with Micron memory rated at 1600MHZ, I was trying to help all get to where they needed to be. Along comes C with "our kit does this" which happens to be samsung (which I have here BTW also) and basically spits in the face of all those who have all ready spent hard earned cash.
Now if C wants to help lets see an SPD dump of these micron dimms that do 1660+ as thats all it can be, I just spent 5 hrs looking at SPD for DDR3 and im confident now the board is having an issue reading some of the info correctly on some modules. It is not like DDR2 where you tell the board what to do, this time the board has to calculate what to do based off info within the SPD, if the board has issues reading what is there then it will possibly not run correctly.
So im not being bigheaded, I was p1ssed someone came along and snubbed those who were trying to help. I will gladly post a universal 2GB spd once I sort this crap for all to use and get the best from their P5Q3.
I can't see C having the balls to offer that to the community
thinking my 12hr memtest was a pure fluke now
pc rebooted last night when i wanted to try aquamark and has been hard locking just running windows update
today when i came to startup the pc, it froze as it booted into windows :(
just been trying to swap my raptor 150 with my window x64 install on, onto one of the the marvell sata ports and could not boot at all
disk read error occured
press ctrl+alt+ el to restart (the D was missing)
also tried it with a 2gb kit of ballistix 12800 mem which has been working ok and had the same message
i made sure the ide controller was enabled, the sata cable plugged into the top port, and tried changing the "drive xpert" mode to normal, but nothing :shrug: :(
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Just tried a Seagate 80GB SATAII drive in the same marvell port and it works
I´m using A-Data´s Vitesta Extreme X1600:
http://oc.adata.com.tw/1_product_det...?pid=AD31600XU
I were able to run them fine with this board at 1600MHz at 2.1V and CL 7-7-7-18 when I was usin Xeon E3110 but now with E7200 they do´nt oc, weird.
Those are microns as well, i guess this board doesnt like micron ic's much.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
This is exactly what I'm hoping to see on P45 / DDR3. Best of luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
(also posted on http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...d.php?p=278514)
Hello,
I've got an Asus P5Q3 with an OCZ3P16002GK kit and Q9450 processor, and could only install a system and boot under Splashtop/Linux/Windows by setting DDR3-800 in the BIOS. All other settings I tried with DDR3-1333 (voltage, timings, skew) were unstable. I tried all available BIOSes, even 801 one.
Today I decided to do some tests. Now I've got Prime95 running stable for half an hour (self-test 1024K passed) with the following BIOS settings in System Performance Settings :
DRAM Frequency : DDR3-1333MHz
DRAM Static Read Control : Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control : Disabled
DRAM Read Training : Disabled
DRAM Write Training : Disabled
MEM. OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
DRAM Voltage : 1.80
NB Voltage : 1.20
All other settings : Auto
The OCZ kit is on orange slots, the others aren't populated.
Some settings may be useless, but now it's stable I will try setting back each parameter one by one to Auto and lowering DRAM Voltage later, and test stability.
At the time of this writing, Self-test 8K passed.
Hope this helps...
Another thing : SPD says this RAM is PC3-10700... shouldn't it be PC3-12800 ? Btw, when I bought this, the vendor said "DDR3-1600".
Thanks,
Olivier
Do you absolutely need 2.1V for the clocks and timings? What vNB are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
If you really need that voltage, thats hinting to me that the board is tuned "too tight"?
:toast:
K
Its a bit crap that basically RAM manufacturers have to have RAM rated for the chipset it will be used on as they all seem to perform so differently- cross-use looks like it might lead to disappointment?
Today I have 12 hrs on the board, 1600 was a go although unstable and using a custom SPD. Noticed from Bachus's post fine delay settings are totally different on his micron runs to what I am seeing others are getting so i asked Asus for fine delay options in bios so we can see if this makes a difference.
just to show this board is faster at 1333 than 1600 take a peak at this.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st.../1333_p5q3.png
Board overvolts like crazy, 1.76V ram =1.83V real, 1.20V NB= 1.26real
0.620 NB GTL and still tweaking.
Nice flat line over 10K for read write and copy, much lower speed than Bachus showed with tighter timings but higher tRD.
Board is weird for sure
0801 bios did help, memory works now fine at 1600MHz 7-7-7-18, 1.95V now.
With 1:1 divider ?
if you have 1.95V set in bios you have near 2.1V at the dimm, becareful you do not kill them, the board overvolts like crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
this is from board to board different...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
on P5Q-Dlx is same.. some boards overvolt and some undervolt ;)
but it is better if everey check it on his board!
The P5Q3 i had undervolt ~0.01 - 0.03v
Got 2xp5q deluxe and 2xp5q3 deluxe and they all overvolt here m8...i still say becareful
Some 1600+ tries quite successfull though with 2x1 GB setup. 2000 is rather much too far :(
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9642/1800pu8.th.png http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/858/1600zx3.th.png http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5153/58766hf9.th.png
Haha guess such low timings are working only on P45... chipset made for high FSB and low latency screenshots haha :D
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6783/433xy3.th.png http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/790/4332my3.th.png
How to measure Vdimm?