[UniHW] DFI 790FX M2R Review, King of AMD is back!

all these from: Uni Hardware
http://www.unihw.com/viewthread.php?tid=217

to me... DFI is the only option if i wanna spend my time and passion on AMD products :D
Let's take a look at their hot hot LP UT 790FX M2R :D

similar package as P35 T2R/680i
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790FX chipset support ddr2-1066 ratio ?
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max volt.
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overclking test:

350*10 DDR2-1166 4445 32m piece of cake
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367fsb, DDR2-1100 4435 done.
same chip, can do only 360fsb on MSI's RD780.
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feelings after 2hours testing:
1) damn stable vcore, like a dead man's heart beat :D
2) bios restore after overclking failure more better than DFI's intel mobo,
very smooth and flexiable during the whole overclking testing,
proved that DFI DO NEED MORE SUPPORT from INTEL to bring us good mobo like their AMD products.
3) no DC Power loss after restart, well protect my watercooling system :D

I saw this board simillar to the p35 LP, with green pci & pci-e slots...strange...
Anyway, looks one of the best board to the am2+ at the moment (paired with the MSI one).Victor, did the digital PWM heat too much?
Thanks in advance. :up:

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Originally Posted by Morais

I saw this board simillar to the p35 LP, with green pci & pci-e slots...strange...
Anyway, looks one of the best board to the am2+ at the moment (paired with the MSI one).Victor, did the digital PWM heat too much?
Thanks in advance. :up:

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can't feel that, 'coz i'm not using a quadcore

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790FX chipset support ddr2-1066 ratio ?

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It does, but afaik it can only be enabled with a Phenom CPU.
Victor have you tried running 1066 with this 6000+?

I'm guessing like $250-280? or how much

Need more screenshots :)

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that's a very sick 1M run at 3300mhz :D

looks good, yah more screenshots, and Estimated selling price for UK??

another board that will get hyped to no end until all the bugs are discovered and dfi runs away from fixing the issues? yeah, no thanks. this cfx3200 board has left a sour taste in my mouth, as i'm sure intel icfx3200 owners and lp 680i can attest to as well, so i can honestly say, dfi can shove this board where the sun don't shine, i'd rather buy an ecs board... sorry to crash the party, but dfi's true nature has shined through quite a few times.

Now that is one slick mobo!!, thats defo the one for me if looks could kill!!

Layout is great... bollox for Quad Crossfire... Tri crossfire is more realistic!

Expected price/ release date?

Hopefully this new line of mobo chipsets will give much better stabilty with lower heat output!

DFI might of given bad taste for their firm in past but that was with crappy chipsets... DFI/790FX combo u cant loose!! esp with Digital PVM!



Side note... is that copper or just painted alumium?... was plain alumnium before!! looks nicer tho :p:

need more detail pics about the board~~ look quite ssexy~~

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another board that will get hyped to no end until all the bugs are discovered and dfi runs away from fixing the issues? yeah, no thanks. this cfx3200 board has left a sour taste in my mouth, as i'm sure intel icfx3200 owners and lp 680i can attest to as well, so i can honestly say, dfi can shove this board where the sun don't shine, i'd rather buy an ecs board... sorry to crash the party, but dfi's true nature has shined through quite a few times.

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I must say you make valid points and their boards are way too expensive and their support crappy as can be (in Euroland).

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Engrish!

Thanks for posting this Victor. It's so sexy! :D

At last the triumphant return of D.F.I:buddies:

My next board to be paired up with my ~Cell Shock~( PC2 8000) 4-4-4-12 with killer Native quad core:woot:

Nice mobo design.
Wonder how it performs w the Phenom... :)

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Engrish!

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ooh! a new setting, I wonder what vlotage does?

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Thanks for posting this Victor. It's so sexy! :D

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Makes me remind of Nelly Furtado Maneater song :ROTF:

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ooh! a new setting, I wonder what vlotage does?

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It has something to do with UFO i think. Or most likely Oscar got drunk while naming bios setup menu entries.

I want someone with a Phenom to try and find the Max fsb of this board :) I hope it can hit around 500 like the MSI board

Sweet mobo and massive voltage options!!
In other words - business as usual - for DFI :up:

Sapphire Board Prices + DFI Bios = Win?

This board is suposidly able to do 510FSB with a 6400 @ 5 multi!

better then the MSI with 500FSB.. but this was on standard air cooling!!

This board will defo pwn!! esp when Phenoms ramp clocks speeds up Q1/Q2 2008

whats this supposed to mean?

'Kentsfield rest in peace
Simultaneous release
Barcelona show your teeth
She's my priestess, I'm your priest'

Kentsfield has been out for ages? no?

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another board that will get hyped to no end until all the bugs are discovered and dfi runs away from fixing the issues? yeah, no thanks. this cfx3200 board has left a sour taste in my mouth, as i'm sure intel icfx3200 owners and lp 680i can attest to as well, so i can honestly say, dfi can shove this board where the sun don't shine, i'd rather buy an ecs board... sorry to crash the party, but dfi's true nature has shined through quite a few times.

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By the specs in your sig I dont see what you're complaining about.

I agree the CFX3200-DR requires advanced tweaking abilities but the only real problem with the board are the auto-load overclocking profiles (disable them and the bios suddenly becomes 100% instead of 50%) and the SATA controllers (only when overclocked).

If you're having 3d stability issues with your rig drop your ram speed down, its quite common that Infineon CE/BE 5/6 chips (what you have) will lose 3D stability past ~245mhz but still be 2D stable... odd indeed.

/OT

edit - i'm typing this on a CFX3200-DR system right now ;)

that board looks flat out sick .

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Originally Posted by leoftw

that board looks flat out sick .

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Tru dat!

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Originally Posted by Cooper

It does, but afaik it can only be enabled with a Phenom CPU.
Victor have you tried running 1066 with this 6000+?

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yup, i've tried, and it's HALF-WORKing.
200fsb, 1066, cpuz can't read the memclk, 200*15 1m=30.875sec
200fsb, 800, 200*15 1m = 27.xxx sec
so as you said, the 1066 ratio can support only on K10


like i said, this mobo, remind me the years of DFI LP NF4.
yes, CFX3200 almost make everyone crazy, but this mobo is not.
even if u leave all setting = auto, it can overclk pretty good.
for mem timing settings, i think if u fimiliar with memset, u can handle almost 80% of the options available in bios.

This brings back memories of my NF4 SLI-DR...god I loved that board...can't wait for this one to be paired with a phenom..may have to take out another loan just to build another rig :)

VW, should we follow this thread for some K10 benching?

@ Victor Wang....Hi, Victor:) will the new DFI AMD 790 Support Cell Shock (PC2 8000) 4-4-4-12 or is this chipset going to be limited to ddr2 800?:(

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VW, should we follow this thread for some K10 benching?

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could someone find me a K10 to me plz :D
'coz i dont wanna buy AMD cpu :p:

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@ Victor Wang....Hi, Victor:) will the new DFI AMD 790 Support Cell Shock (PC2 8000) 4-4-4-12 or is this chipset going to be limited to ddr2 800?:(

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lol, it's not a problem, u can set 300*10, ddr2-667, and ur memclk = ddr2-1000

Thanks Victor:) Whats new with you these days?

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This board is suposidly able to do 510FSB with a 6400 @ 5 multi!

better then the MSI with 500FSB.. but this was on standard air cooling!!

This board will defo pwn!! esp when Phenoms ramp clocks speeds up Q1/Q2 2008

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No FSB on an AMD board m8...FSB is intel only.

HTT is amd, HTT bus speed

@Victor , impressive perfomance@ spi .The last week i was trying to do some bench @3300 , ram 1100 4-4-4 , and even with extensive tweaking in all subtimings (in fact all minimal except Twrt,Trtw ,2,4 respectively) cant even get close ( getting close i mean 0,5% difference..) , fastest tryout was once (never succeeded to repeat again) 4-4-3-9(or -8 , dont remember) with 24.593 almost 1% slower(i dont think tras =5 could make more than 50-70ms differcence).To make this difference clearer before "crucify" me :p, keep in mind that with all subs tweaked , going from 5-5-4(tCL-tRCD-tRP) to 4-4-4 got 0.9-1% faster at spi , so this difference from my setup (m2n32 ws pro,XP64 ,diagnostic startup :p) is HUGE!! .Is so much gain from the extra subtimings the bios has? or is just the high HTT?

Bah, I was really excited when I saw that AMD Phenom-related slide claiming 169€ QuadCore CPU's and then seeing this DFI board and thinking it'd cost 150€ or so (for example MSI's 790FX costs ~120€), but cheapest Phenom ended up at 230€ and this board is listed at 200€(!) at the moment... :down:

Hello IX38-QuadGT (180€) & Q6600 (200€) then, I guess. :shrug:

Launch prices are always higher than expected...
We need to wait until all shops have phenoms and 790 mobos available in quantity and not only some of them.
Then they probably start the price battle and we'll be able to get a dfi at 150€ and a X4 9500 at 190€... ;)
Another example is the 8800GT... here in Italy it's still unavailable in almost all of the shops and where it's available it's sold at 250+ € (350$ or so)..

Is it possible to crossfire 2 cards with 1 in the last bottom slot? That would be really nice as it would save 3 PCI slots for devices.

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Launch prices are always higher than expected...
We need to wait until all shops have phenoms and 790 mobos available in quantity and not only some of them.
Then they probably start the price battle and we'll be able to get a dfi at 150€ and a X4 9500 at 190€... ;)
Another example is the 8800GT... here in Italy it's still unavailable in almost all of the shops and where it's available it's sold at 250+ € (350$ or so)..

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Well, the 8800 GT is out of stock everywhere in Europe, but even so it's still sold at 200€, even under at some stores. Theres no price gouging on the HD 3800-series either, even though it's a new product.

Though I hope your right, I'd love to get this board at 150€ (and a K8 DualCore), but looking at DFI's recent pricing with their Intel boards, it'll stay at 200€. :(

Alright, enough :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing and offtopic from me, carry on. :)

I know I asked this in another thread but.......does this mean that overclocking a Phenom at this point beyond 2.4ghz will result in the Errata Bug and shut down under Prime Load?

c'mon guys lets start clocking Phenoms!!!

You buy Please.....I am a little light on cash ATM:p:

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I know I asked this in another thread but.......does this mean that overclocking a Phenom at this point beyond 2.4ghz will result in the Errata Bug and shut down under Prime Load?

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Not according to this reliable source heh heh heh:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...om-ghz-due-tlb

would this board make phenom more overclockable on air?

3.3GHz 1.48V

My next system if I can save up fast enough :(

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I must say you make valid points and their boards are way too expensive and their support crappy as can be (in Euroland).

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Care to back that up with some evidence mate? :confused:

-DFI Support Europe.

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3.3GHz 1.48V

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stable 24/7 settings ? on witch model ? 3.3g phenom with air sounds good.

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Originally Posted by tictac

3.3GHz 1.48V

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More Infos please ;)

Or was this Post ironic?

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Care to back that up with some evidence mate? :confused:

-DFI Support Europe.

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Well, i got a board with the warped socket in the days and unlike DFI support in the US they told me they wouldn't take care of the shipping cost, after i mailed them back telling them (in a very polite way) that i didn't understand why it should cost me anything when it was a 100% DFI mistake, they just ignored me. You can't possibly do worst in my opinion unless you insult your customer of course.

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Care to back that up with some evidence mate? :confused:

-DFI Support Europe.

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is it available anywhere yet, and does anyone know if they are sold through any stores in the UK anymore. was a point you could pick up a dfi from anywhere, even dabs.com , now you can barely find dfi boards and i have no clue why they dissappeared :(

none of the "where to buy" links on the dfi site have anything. i think one company of all the ones listed had a single dfi mobo on. they've just evapourated completely from the uk, which is a shame.

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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster

is it available anywhere yet, and does anyone know if they are sold through any stores in the UK anymore. was a point you could pick up a dfi from anywhere, even dabs.com , now you can barely find dfi boards and i have no clue why they dissappeared :(

none of the "where to buy" links on the dfi site have anything. i think one company of all the ones listed had a single dfi mobo on. they've just evapourated completely from the uk, which is a shame.

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DFI in U.K. shop (more than one :p: )

german webshops got it on pre-order atm.

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a295253.html
184 euro and i bet once more stores get it and once 790FX boards get more widely availeble it will drop another 20 euro.

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DFI in U.K. shop (more than one :p: )

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bah, missed that, was another store with one board, cconline, i checked the brands link, which doesn't have dfi till a full list on other page :p

but still, dfi seem very quiet in the uk. everyone on the list of where to buy would have a range of nf4, intel and budget boards in stock, ocuk, dabs, tekheads, basically everyone had them, then it all dried up.

the SB heatsink looks like it's ready for the allmighty TRANSPIPER!

true?!

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Originally Posted by LowRun

Well, i got a board with the warped socket in the days and unlike DFI support in the US they told me they wouldn't take care of the shipping cost, after i mailed them back telling them (in a very polite way) that i didn't understand why it should cost me anything when it was a 100% DFI mistake, they just ignored me. You can't possibly do worst in my opinion unless you insult your customer of course.

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Hmmm I look after all such matters and I do not recall such a case. Which board was it? That said I do recall a discussion a few months ago with someone regarding shipping costs. If you require further clarification on the matter you can PM me or email me at support at dfi-europe dot com.

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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster

is it available anywhere yet, and does anyone know if they are sold through any stores in the UK anymore. was a point you could pick up a dfi from anywhere, even dabs.com , now you can barely find dfi boards and i have no clue why they dissappeared :(

none of the "where to buy" links on the dfi site have anything. i think one company of all the ones listed had a single dfi mobo on. they've just evapourated completely from the uk, which is a shame.

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I won't beat around the bush and imply that our distribution channels in the UK are that great. A few months ago our main distributor, UK side, went bust, and since then getting a reliable partner UK side has been tricky. With regards to the LP 790 board I have just gotten 2 preliminary samples in. One as my reference board and another will be sent to a reviewer. Actual stock will follow in the coming weeks. I set up my sample yesterday with Win Vista and so far so good. Seems a solid board. I'll let you guys be the judge thou after a number of you have and give it a good OC shakedown.

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Hmmm I look after all such matters and I do not recall such a case. Which board was it? That said I do recall a discussion a few months ago with someone regarding shipping costs. If you require further clarification on the matter you can PM me or email me at support at dfi-europe dot com.

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Thank you for your offer, it's very possible you weren't in charge back then (board was NF2 Infinity, so more years than months) maybe you would have handled the matter in a better way (which DFI USA did in that case). At least dialog seems to have improved so keep up, i may change my mind and buy one of your mobos in the future if i can find one for a decent price which is not easy in France.

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I won't beat around the bush and imply that our distribution channels in the UK are that great. A few months ago our main distributor, UK side, went bust, and since then getting a reliable partner UK side has been tricky. With regards to the LP 790 board I have just gotten 2 preliminary samples in. One as my reference board and another will be sent to a reviewer. Actual stock will follow in the coming weeks. I set up my sample yesterday with Win Vista and so far so good. Seems a solid board. I'll let you guys be the judge thou after a number of you have and give it a good OC shakedown.

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who was the distributor, can't think whose gone bust recently other than overclock, but it won't be them.

do you have an idea on price in uk, rough dates, i mean, is it not due for a couple of months, or might we see it in a couple of weeks.

one big area where people lose out is, a lot of enthusiasts who buy new top end kit tend to like being part of that first weeks buying so they can help find tricks and ways to overclock better, where it performs best. so its pretty essential to have a new board available on/very close to release of the chip.

nice board!!! looks like i'm going to have to get this once it hits the egg (newegg)

nice mobo , but for 3d benches ,i wish it had 4*pci-e :shakes:

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who was the distributor, can't think whose gone bust recently other than overclock, but it won't be them.

do you have an idea on price in uk, rough dates, i mean, is it not due for a couple of months, or might we see it in a couple of weeks.

one big area where people lose out is, a lot of enthusiasts who buy new top end kit tend to like being part of that first weeks buying so they can help find tricks and ways to overclock better, where it performs best. so its pretty essential to have a new board available on/very close to release of the chip.

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Could be CPUCity, they went down the pan a while ago, tried to trace the guys, managed to pin down the people they rented the premises from, but they seemed a bit tight lipped about their where abouts.

A shame really as their support was pretty good, and seemed like pretty cool guys

:(

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nice mobo , but for 3d benches ,i wish it had 4*pci-e :shakes:

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4 PCI-e easy.... drivers another story

Not even all games benefit from cross-fire or sli. I'm ready for a new high-end card, not two mid-range cards glued onto one board or 3-4 card setup.

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Thank you for your offer, it's very possible you weren't in charge back then (board was NF2 Infinity, so more years than months) maybe you would have handled the matter in a better way (which DFI USA did in that case). At least dialog seems to have improved so keep up, i may change my mind and buy one of your mobos in the future if i can find one for a decent price which is not easy in France.

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NF2 Infinity was indeed just before my time. I signed on with DFI from about NF3 onwards.

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who was the distributor, can't think whose gone bust recently other than overclock, but it won't be them.

do you have an idea on price in uk, rough dates, i mean, is it not due for a couple of months, or might we see it in a couple of weeks.

one big area where people lose out is, a lot of enthusiasts who buy new top end kit tend to like being part of that first weeks buying so they can help find tricks and ways to overclock better, where it performs best. so its pretty essential to have a new board available on/very close to release of the chip.

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Perhaps "wholesale distributor" would have been a better term. The wholesale distributor in question is not one most private individuals would know about. Price of products is always at the discretion of the seller, so I wouldn't care to hazard a guess on prices. Concerning availability I have checked an we expect stock at the start of Dec. Expect the board in the stores within a week or so of that. I suspect that companies such as OCers UK will carry the board.

-DFI Support Europe

I think I'm gonna get one and do a write up maybe:) D.F.I certainly needs some cheering with all of the bad chain of events the past year.

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nice board!!! looks like i'm going to have to get this once it hits the egg (newegg)

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Why not get it from Motherboardpro.com they have it at a great price and they are really a bunch of great people to deal with and offer more personable service than New Egg will besides we should support small business in the community and places like New Egg and Tiger Direct get enough of our business..

Heres the link....http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ATX-p-404.html

Email Mike and see if you can use the code BrotherEsau for a discount:)

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Perhaps "wholesale distributor" would have been a better term. The wholesale distributor in question is not one most private individuals would know about. Price of products is always at the discretion of the seller, so I wouldn't care to hazard a guess on prices. Concerning availability I have checked an we expect stock at the start of Dec. Expect the board in the stores within a week or so of that. I suspect that companies such as OCers UK will carry the board.

-DFI Support Europe

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cheers,

don't know why companies can't make that kinda info more available as standard. I mean a quick e-mail to even the inq, but maybe more like hexus to say stock is expected early december, also giving a rrp would help the end user because. plenty of people want to try phenom for the sake of trying something new and will buy on release with whatever board is available unless they know a rough date for a board they really want. likewise, people like ocuk tend to just whack prices up because no one is forcing them to bring them down. uk seems really bad at the moment as companies are rising prices to towards whoever has it highest, rather than the usual cutting prices to match the lowest.

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Why not get it from Motherboardpro.com they have it at a great price and they are really a bunch of great people to deal with and offer more personable service than New Egg will besides we should support small business in the community and places like New Egg and Tiger Direct get enough of our business..

Heres the link....http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ATX-p-404.html

Email Mike and see if you can use the code BrotherEsau for a discount:)

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I emailed motherboard pros and I thank you for posting.

I would love to get this DFI board, but I don't want to be the beta tester, as my system is more of a personal use and fun system , not just benchmarking

LOL. its between this mobo DFI 790fx $260 and the ASUS balls to the wall at $370

Sent you PM just talk to Mike:) Tell him I sent you over cuz the Code was promoted on XS for Members for D.F.I X38 Mobo but see what he says:D

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another board that will get hyped to no end until all the bugs are discovered and dfi runs away from fixing the issues? yeah, no thanks. this cfx3200 board has left a sour taste in my mouth, as i'm sure intel icfx3200 owners and lp 680i can attest to as well, so i can honestly say, dfi can shove this board where the sun don't shine, i'd rather buy an ecs board... sorry to crash the party, but dfi's true nature has shined through quite a few times.

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Or, it could be another NF4 Ultra-D :D

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I emailed motherboard pros and I thank you for posting.

I would love to get this DFI board, but I don't want to be the beta tester, as my system is more of a personal use and fun system , not just benchmarking

LOL. its between this mobo DFI 790fx $260 and the ASUS balls to the wall at $370

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Beta Tester????? Victor Wang started this thread just like the DFI P35 thread and look at whats going on with DFI breaking records these days!

I can tell you First hand this P35 I have is by far the only worthy motherboard I have owned since moving from my Expert board and DFI excels at AMD:up: and as a working example this DFI P35 is a super bad ass super stable mobo and the Bios are coming hot and heavy and all good for the most part cant really complain or say anything negative at all its right up to DFI worthy name and standard!

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the SB heatsink looks like it's ready for the allmighty TRANSPIPER!

true?!

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When avaible will feature it... seems nice idea hopefully performs well too!!

alright... yall got my bank going to this board now. i will wait a while and see what more overclocking does and what yall say. I got a while, as i'm waiting to get my cfx3200m2/g board RMA'd and get a new one so i can get my system back up and running

@6400+ Black Edition owners
Hi there, some of you have this powerful CPU! I am going to buy it too. But there still is a lot of confusion about the multiplier. Is the 6400+ B.E. locked? Some sources claim that this CPU is unlocked as the 5000+ B.E.. I doubt this is true.

@DFI-Support Member(s)
First of all congratulations for this board and all other LanParty Products! They are awesome and should be in EVERY PC on this planet!
However I complained too about the availability in the days of Socket939/AM2 in Austria (and Germany). With AM2+ this is over now, because more and more retailers have the 790FX LanParties ready to go for as low as 185€.
There is an error on your DFI-homepage:
You list a retailer in Austria (KTC-Watercool) who is no longer DFI distributor, since years now! The shop owners and I have mailed and posted in your support forum, but no one cared. Please erase the entry.

@all
1. What is your RAM suggestion for this board? At first I wanted to buy the OCZ AM2 Special 4GB Kit (2x 2GB double sided RAM, single ranked, optimized for AM2 memory controller), but it is not abailable any more and would have had only 667MHz CL5-5-5. Now I am looking for a good timed kit 2x2GB or 2x1GB, preferred single sided/ranked with CMD rate 1T possible and at least 1066MHz to be ready for a future Phenom purchase.
2. I am going to buy a 6000+ or 6400+ for two reasons: 1MB cache/core & guaranteed 3,0GHz/3,2GHz without OC). Would you prefer the 6000+ EE (89W) or 6400+ (125W) for an attempt to reach 3,4+ GHz?

Thank you guys and thanks for this informative review!

the 6400+ BE is not unlocked. it is stuck at a 16x multiplier....which really do you need more... that paired with 280fsb... uh yeh... LOL...4480mhz

guys, how is this baord so far.. I have seen BrotherEasus review..and this one

what are the NB and SB temps?

I know you want to make a informed decision and that is cool but not many have this board and I have shot you straight already on the questions you asked:)