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G92
740MHz core clock
64 stream processors
256-bit DDR3 1800MHz 512MB
TDP between 7900GS and 7900GTX
3DMark06 on QX6700 : 97xx
Price : US$249-299
G98
800MHz core clock
32 stream processors
256-bit DDR3 1600MHz 512MB
TDP higher than 8600GTS
3DMark06 on QX6700 : 74xx
Price : US$169-199
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-817895-1-1.html
So, the G92 is not as good as 8800GTS?:down:
I say the reports from China are BS.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertShooter
unless it was as rumored, G92, G98 are mid-level chips and G90 is high end.
Sounds like 80nm, judging by the frequency / number of stream processors / TDP, wich is a little weird IMO.
Considering Nvidia's naming scheme, policy, and current market situation, i'd say there is a G90 waiting to be released around the beginning of december, on 80nm but not much faster than current performance leader 8800Ultra.
Those same specs were echoed by HKEPC (Hong Kong source, the same guys who gave us the Intel price cut data) and Digitimes (a Taiwan source). Given that Nvidia has plants and development in Taiwan and China (not to mention that TSMC is from Taiwan), the sources are probably closer to truth than FudQuote:
Originally Posted by hawkeyefan
why would nvidia stay on 80nm when ati is allready planning the r700 at something smaller then 65nm ? hd2950xt 65nm ? or 55 ?
BS imho
Some will be surprised soon*
[ *soon as in...2 months ]
pls let there be a highend model in november. I dont want to buy a ultra. :D
;) :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
lines up for the aussie launch on 12th :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
looking fwd for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
9700 seems low with a quad unless the GPU is way slower than my GTS. Guess we will have to wait for some more reliable info
Not impressed... with these specs, they should at least price it lower, as thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Borden
is almost 8800GTS-territory.
BenchZowner, surely you mean that in two months, a new high-end model
will be revealed, right? ;) 'Cause I find it hard to believe that these will be
surprising. I don't expect them to be anywhere near to 8800GTS even with
heavy oc.
Notice how they aren't talking about the G90...at all, but focus on the G92 and G98 which I believe ARE LOW end. Those cards aren't capable of being a 1Tflop beast - G90 probably is!Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeyefan
SPILL THE BEANS! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
are G92 and G98 using 65nm tech?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank M
Currently "getting rid" of my 8800GTX's & 8800 Ultra's ;)
Of course, because the 8800GTX and Ultra is crap. I mean, what other reason would you have for trying to get rid of them? ;) :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
BenchZowner> when does NDA end? Gets annoying when you keep pestering us with your hehe-I-have-a-G92-sitting-right-here-and-its-shiny comments in every G92 thread. ;) But yea that's good if faster cards also arrive then but to me I wouldn't mind a mid to high range card either as it seems if a card would be released as above it would be a good bang-for-the-buck card and hopefully very overclockable and the price range is what I'm interested in.
digitimes isn't as accurate as they pretend to be. take what they say with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
dave
I'm not NDA bound directly, so the NDA end date isn't exactly something that bothers me ( at least currently ) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
Depending on how things turn out in the following weeks, I may release some nice stuff by the time October arrives :yepp:
Well... I'm about to sell my 8800GTS and buy a GTX or Ultra, because of the next coming games, like Airborne, Crysis, COD4... I was also expecting that nVidia would launch a new high-end in November or a GTS upgrade something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
If that is the case then i don't mind to wait a bit more, but this rumors all around just make me more confuse.
I don't know what to do, I'm tired of this rumors (B#"&$Hit)... :shakes:
and where is my promised gift :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Well, up to that it'd still be a good purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMike
Unless you're more interested in benchmarking than gaming.
A GTX will last ok for 'reasonable' gaming ( 1680x1050 4xAA 16xAF ) for more than a while.
Taking benchmarking out of the question, and speaking as a gamer ( well, at least the gaming part of me :p: ) I can't remember having the same graphics card in my gaming rig for such a 'big' period.
After all, the 8800GTX was a great purchase from all views, truthfully.
Everything in time my friend ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
are you organising a giveaway now :D hahaha
If you absolutely need to get rid of a GTX I'll take it. i'll even pay shipping...
About time. That huge gap between the 8600's and the 8800's is finally over with?
Thanks for your advice. Well... The problem is... That in the short run i will buy a Dell 24" Wide TFT running at 1920x1200 and that may hurt the GTX in the coming games..Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Regards:up:
I dont think it would be on the 12th. More like the 14th like the rest of th launches.
^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by MarlboroMan
:shrug:
Really? The one with 1920x1680 res? I wasn't aware that was there?:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMike
Com'on, I wanna start saving money and see what I'm going to be paying for.
1920x1200......:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
...1920x1200 ;)
G98 looks pretty good if the $149 price tag is true. G92 should def be high end.....it's been a while since G80 came out.
Oh, he's not talking about the G92/G98 - midrange parts - when he's giggling behind his computer. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
Now i am wondering @ Nov with something like 2/3 cards released which current gen cards will be discontinued ,, i am guessing one version of the 8800GTS and the 8800GTX/Ultra ,, just guess
..yeah sorry no new superparts from nvidia until Christmas 2008 (:lol: yeah right:rolleyes:)
8800GTX (/ultra) has been king for a loong time now.
(looks at November on calendar...:yawn2:)...i dont have 2008 calendar yet :lol2:
Nvidia G92 is GeForce 8700 GTS
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvid..._GTS/5236.htmlQuote:
VR-Zone has learned more about the upcoming Nvidia G92 where the official marketing name is most likely to be GeForce 8700 GTS. As revealed earlier, G92 is 65nm based and has 256-bit memory bus width. The reference 8700 GTS card has 8-layer PCB and comes with 512MB GDDR3 1ns memories so the memory clock of G92 is estimated to be between 900Mhz to 1GHz. Core clock is unknown yet.
8750 gx2 any1:lol2:?
that's what I was wondering...thanks for pointing that outQuote:
Originally Posted by EternityZX9
i lifted this from another forum - speculative - wot u think?Quote:
G90 = high end (8900/9900 GTS/GTX) [like g80, g70, etc]
G92 = Midrange (8650/8700/8750/9650/9750)
G98 = Value (8450/8550/9450/9550)
perhaps nvidia tests waters / yields with lower cost 65nm parts before releasing uber g90 after kinks/process worked out more :)
process shrink always seems to be problematic at first.
That's what I'm thinking. The 8700GTS was heard of before in the channels and that will probably replace the 8800GTS, while the 8900 (as rumored the new generation is not so much a new gen, but a long awaited refresh) is going to be around also.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Anyways, Nvidia could have changed the number scheme if they wanted, but no talk ever of the G90 does not mean it doesn't exist :up:
Anyways since I'm running a 30" monitor, 2560 x 1600 is really demanding and I don't want to go SLI so I'm going to have to wait and hope that a new high end comes out sooner rather than later since while the Ultra can play even DX10 mode games on everything maxed except AA, it's cutting it close! (Though its still never unplayable, which is an absolutely amazing card)
No, no way they will make the chips lower than the g80 ones. Did nvidia release the specs of the cards yet? Don't think so. So how would they know what will it be...
Personally I only care about the high end card spec. Which is rumored to be called the g90. And hoping to be released around november.
Because actually, if release is two months from now, more than a few companies that work with Nvidia on cards will have an idea of specs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jass
Just because G92 and G98 are mid to low end doesn't mean a high end doesn't exist. Coding isn't always set in stone, and much are just rumors.
But with all the latest buzz, G92 = an 8800GTS replacement, G98 = a replacement to the 8400-8600, and a new high end might be G90. The numbering scheme might reflect this as being more of a refresh than a new generation, since supposedly they are using the G80 core but tweaking it while also supporting PCIE 2.0, DisplayPort, etc. Hence an 8700 series, 8900 series, etc.
Or it's just nVidia being nVidia - keeping their mouth shut about the high-end product until they are good and ready to release info on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
They said they have a 1Tflop beast that will be released in Q4 of this year and it will be "high-end". Do you think these specs are capable of that? I don't. :lol:
Remember last year before the G80 release we really didn't know any factual information about the card until 2-4 weeks before it came out. Sure did have plenty of FUD from internet traffic sites though...and I'm sure I don't have to tell you which those are.
The buzz going around is the high-end refresh is g92x2...just like 7950GX2 was two 7900GT's.
A 8800GTS with a 256-bit bus and higher clocks. 512MB of ram is a given, although the GDDR3 instead of GDDR4 is a surprise. It sounds like a very efficient (size per die/performance/power/heat) design, as the 8800gts 320MB is a winner, and a smaller bus + more ram seems like a nice sweet spot. Put two of those together on 65nm, and I bet you could stay under or around the G80 power requirements (<225W). Hey, and 192 shaders (mad mad mul) @ 1750 = >1 teraflop. Granted, shaders may not be clocked that high.
A high-end part would be 1GB of ram. ;)
What would it compete with you ask? Why a RV670x2 of course...
It makes sense to me as the GPU companies have alluded to going to MCM next-gen. This may be testing the waters, or perhaps a taste of things to come. Sure, there could be G90/R680...but we hear much more about these parts, and now it seems the pairing of them is the next likely high-end.
I predicted a 64 shader 8700 way back when the 8600 data was coming out. I say it again, a 64 shader 256bit chip fits in nicely between the 8600/8800 in both price & performance.
BernchZowner, do you have any info on shader clocks that you can share? Is it higher than the 8800Ultra in shader clocks?
How 'bout 24xx MHz default Shader Domain clocks ? [ not final "release" info yet ]Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathReborn
You seem to miss that while the 8800GTS is 96 shaders, the G92 is only 64;Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
2Ũ64 = 128, which is the same amount as the 8800GTX/U
24xx shader clocks do sound better...
24XX shader clocks sound nice, and they sound nicer on a high end part ( because I'm talking about a high end's part specs ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank M
:slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
that really sucks
hmm...That's interesting, and a very possible way to take things (higher shader clocks over more SPs), although I wonder how much performance would be hampered compared to a GTS/GTX because of 1/2-2/3 the texture power, etc.
64x3x2400= 460gflops (307 real)
8800GTS is 96x3x1350 = 388 (259 real)
Not that shabby for raw numbers. Two of those would be close to a teraflop too. Not saying that is all omnipotent measure of performance (as R600 shows) but the numbers could be there.
@ Frank, I know the 88GTS is 96. Lots of rumors are saying 6 TCPs for G92, which would be 96 shader processors (G80 tech is x thread control processor groups of 16 shaders; totalling 128 for GTX [8], 96 for gts [6], 32 for 8600gts [2]) only the one other posted rumor is saying 64 (4 TCPs).
Either 64 or 96 is plausible. 64 would make sense if shader domains are ~2400mhz. 96 with those shader domains would be unreal and unlikely (it would be faster than 8800GTX) if it is a midrange part.
wow thats amazing clocks. i am going to hold off buy a new high end part until we see what nvidia has for us in the high end.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
as for the G92 it seems like it will be a fairly solid card not as powerful as a 8800gts but it should have enough for maxing out most games at lower resolutions. and the G98 sounds good as well. with 512mb and 256bit bus along with a clock speed bump it should perform well at 1280X1024.
And some people were calling BS when nVidia said the G8x shaders would scale to 1.5GHz, now they'll be agreeing with it I bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
~2.4GHz Shader Domain would make for a pretty nice performance bump, almost to the point of the 8800GTS. Perhaps the 8800GTS 320 and/or 640 are going to be phased out soon...
I hope the G92 will be the new 7600GT or 6600GT, midrange card that offer previous generation high-end performance :). I guess the G92 will be slightly slower than 8800GTS once AA & AF are enabled.
G92 versus RV570 racing target same goal: 10K 3DMark06
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=42199
I can't help but wonder if the release in Q108 (G90?) is actually just a 65nm G80 with hella higher shader clocks (amongst faster core clock/memory).
A g80 with 2400mhz shader clocks...920 Gflops if mul exposed, 614 if not, ...Pretty darn close to a teraflop, and would mesh with "almost a teraflop".
Surely would be interesting if that's the way Nvidia is planning to scale the architecture. :yepp:
If it's something like 160 SPs (as some have speculated, and perhaps 512-bit bus) with such shader clocks, that thing would be the mutts nuts with literally TWICE the shading power of G80 (if shaders were at 2400mhz).
g80 = 128x3x1350= 518.4 but as mul is not exposed = 345
?? = 128x3x2400 = 921/614 (w/-w/o mul) - logically possible.
?? = 160x3x2400 = 1152/768 Gflops - just plain loony.
The former sounds more reasonable (easier to create/profitable) though.
Hello everyone:)
I have read many info about NVIDIA "next gen" GPU G9x series and i`m dissapointed with rumours which appeared in last few weeks.
It seems that there is no GF8800GTX/Ultra replacement but NVIDIA will only fill the gap between GF8600GTS - GF8800GTS.
Latest rumours said that G92 is only 64SP chip (despite at first it was said to have 6 TCPs - 96SP) and high-end NVIDIA card will be GF7950GX2 like card:(
I think 2 GPUs connected by SLI but in one PCB isn`t that what we`re waiting for because this solution need software support (drivers).
Well, i thought NVIDIA will release GPU which give us performance boost like GF7800 to GF6800 or little more. I was hope that G92 will be their flaghsip GPU and then there will be i.e. GF9800GTS which give similar performance boost to GF8800GTS like GF7800GT gave to GF6800GT.
Then i wonder where is 1Tflop GPU which was said on conference in May this year by M. Hara?? He said their nex gen chip will be close to 1Tflop - CHIP not CARD and he couldn`t think about SLI like connected GPUs....
Anyway i can`t wait until 12th November and i still hope my expectations will come true. They aren`t big i think. I only would like to see High-End part which is faster than GF8800GTX about 30-40% in most situations (games not only 3D marks) and card like GF9800GTS (or 8900GTS NM) which is faster than GF8800GTS about 20-30% and it`s price isn`t higher than it.
@BenchZowner what "HIGH-END" part are you talking about?? Almost every site aobut hardware said that there will be no high-end part but only G92 (GF8700GTS) and G98 (competition to Radeon HD 2400xt).
The now rumored NV55, aka G90.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
While it might happen, I don't really see the 65/55nm "highend" being a 2GPU 1PCB card from either Co.
Both will shrink, tweak and push the clock speeds and then with the R700/G1000(NV60?) we will see a multiGPU approach.
But then again, I don't have anymore of a clue then anyone else.:shrug:
Let's just say ( for the occasion ) that the numbering scheme has changed, and it's:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
G92: The Top Dawg ( nVIDIA's flagship GPU )
G90: Being a mainstream GPU
G94: low end
etc: etc
Well, tbh I don't give a flying f**k about the product number code :D
This November ( not in the movies :D ), new top dawg...single GPU ( no 7950GX2 look-alike )...768MB ( 1GB edition...highly unlikely for the first 3 months or so ) Samsung GDDR4-3200, 384bit BUS ( like G80 )...G80/G80+ SP's ( 128 or 128+ )...24xx MHz S.D. Frequency...
That's all I can say ;)
oh sweet! looks as if that will be my next card:DQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
WOW. If it`s true what you said (i really hope!!:up: ) then will be interesting Month in November:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
But M. Hara said in May that they don`t want change their cycle - Q4 High-End part and Spring next year Middle-End. They have changed their mind and they want to launch all new models - highend, mainstream and lowend?
Hmm interesting:rolleyes:
BTW. 128 SP with 2400Mhz Clock sounds VEEEERY COOOOLL:eek:
Anyway THX for info;)
I don't have any info regarding mainstream and mid-to-high end parts.
And I don't think they'll be releasing their high end part and mainstream parts altogether.
Indeed especially since many upcoming shader heavy games + the 2 already released (BioShock, MoH: Airborne) based on Unreal3 engine for example would benefit a lot by the faster shader clock and amount SPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
But yea I believe it when I see it. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
OK:) But... How do you know all of that??:rolleyes: Do you have info from someone who work for NVIDIA??
You are probably the only one person who said there will be highend part from NVIDIA in November:D Xbitlabs, TheInq (:D ) and many others say that NVIDIA there will be NO highend part from NV this year:confused:
But if your source is reliable there is no reason to don`t belive you.
;) I can`t wait November time:)
hmm santa will be generous this year. :yepp: :D
From those knowledgeable of how video cards work, that I know of, they are actually predicting 192 SP for the high end card. (128 + 64)Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
Remember, Bench said 128 or 128+. I'm sure we will know for sure in due time, since Bench can only tell us so much at this time. ;)
Uhhh, nVidia said themselves they will be releasing a "high-end" part this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
Why should you believe anything anyone else says? You know they have a saying about "second-hand" information...
I agree whole heartedly there. Half the time, when developers are sent cards early, they aren't even told a part number. You'd have to remove the cooler to figure that out, and I can tell you right now that they generally aren't too keen on doing such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
This is why sometimes specs fly around for cards from very credible sources that turn out to be nothing of the sort. I can say out-right that the developers G80's were out for quite some time before the 7900gtx's hit the stores.
Informative imagination... :D ( joking )Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
Well, I might be the only one to insist and post that nVIDIA will release a new high end ( new flagship product, not just high end ) product this November... but I'm not the only one to know/been told...not everyone's free from NDA ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barys
I can name you some people that definitely have such information as well, maybe with more details as well, but they won't confirm or say anything because they're under NDA.
Not surprising... you may be the only person with real info saying it, but personally I think it will happen (high-end part around November). This possible card you're describing would indeed be quite fun ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Yea. Sounds really nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
I`ve skipped G8x series to buy something on G9x based. I was disappointed when i read in last two-three weeks that NVIDIA will release only mainstream-performance GPU to replace GF8800GTS 320 and GF8600/8500 this year.
Then BenchZowner said NVIDIA will release their highend GPU (no GF7950GX2 card or dual-GPU on one PCB like Dual GF6800GT or GF6600GT card).
I would like to see a GF9800GTS (or GF8900GTS) little faster or equal than GF8800GTX which will be priced about GF8800GTS:D
BTW. It`s said G9x is 384-bit. Then how can they release 384-bit card with 1GB memory?:confused: The only way is G9x has 32ROPs but 8 is disabled for now.:shrug:
PS. It is 65nm??
Look like you are wrong:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Quote:
Nvidia G98 Card To Price Cheaply At $59
Nvidia G98 is also codenamed D8M which stands for Desktop 8 Mainstream will come cheap at US$59. This G98 card will come even cheaper than the current GeForce 8400 GS with only 4 layer PCB. It is meant to put further pressure on ATi low end segment with the RV610 and the upcoming RV620.
in vr-zoneQuote:
Nvidia G92 is D8P, Priced $199-249
G92 is also known as "D8P" which stands for Desktop 8 Performance and the marketing name is GeForce 8700 GTS as revealed earlier. There will be 2 variants; 512MB and 256MB. The 512MB version costs US$249 while the 256MB version costs US$199. The G92 cards will be using either Qimonda or Hynix 1ns GDDR3 memories. November is going to be interesting with the new GPUs as well as MCP78 chipsets supporting Hybrid SLI and C72/73 chipsets supporting 3-way SLI. AMD is also getting ready their RV670 GPUs to compete against G92 as well as RD790 chipset supporting Tripod and Quad Crossfire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Re-read the post ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
hahah some people just refuse to read :D
Ok what realyable info you have here. Don´t even know the code names of the chips that you are talking :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
News:
I don´t care about anything. I only know that Nvidia will have a 8900 GTI-Turbo-Tuning that clean up everything on the earth.
And this is the most realible info news on the web.:up:
Who said that I don't know the codename ?Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
So if I gave you the specs of the mid-end and high end GPUs coming, without their codenames you'd just ignore them ?
Oh well...
p.s. no flame-baits please.
Realize what he is trying to say without saying it...Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
Then think of reason as to why he can't speak outright...
Comeon... It starts with a "N" and ends in an "A."
Meh, noobs will be noobs... if he doesn't care to know, then let him wander around in ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
I think this is the only firm information we have which came straight from the horses mouth...
From: http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/230Quote:
NVIDIA confirms Next-Gen close to 1TFlop in 4Q07
Wednesday 23rd May 2007, 12:12:43 PM, written by Arun
In recent analyst conferences that were publicly webcast on NVIDIA's website, Michael Hara (VP of Investor Relations) has claimed that their next-generation chip, also known as G92 in the rumour mill, will deliver close to one teraflop of performance. In a separate answer to an analyst's question, he also noted that they have no intention from diverging from the cycle they have adopted with the G80, which is to have the high-end part ready at the end of the year and release the lower-end derivatives in the spring.
Assuming that NVIDIA manages to hit these aggressive release schedules, it implies that the chip will compete with any potential R6xx refresh at the beginning of its lifetime, but also eventually with R700 as it seems unlikely NVIDIA will refresh again before the second half of 2008, unless they go for an optical shrink from 65nm to 55nm. It also remains to be seen how aggressive ATI will be on the process front this time around.
There also were a number of other highlights during the conference, including a major emphasis on GPGPU (aka 'GPU Computing') and a short mention of Intel's upcoming GPU efforts through their Larrabee project. Micahel Hara seemed far from certain about Intel's exact strategy there, although he did mention that it was possible Intel was more interested in the GPGPU market than the gaming one. This is something we have already said in the past.
And finally, he mentioned that although he does not believe R600 will have any impact on their G80 sales, RV610 and RV630 are much more competitive parts that are likely to gain traction in the marketplace. He argued that he was not convinced 65nm gave AMD a real advantage in terms of costs because of the yield curve, and seemed confident that their own 65nm mainstream parts will be superior. We can't help but wonder how much that matters when you release them 9 months later, though? It will also be interesting to see who's first to 55nm, and how good of a half-node it will be.
Unlikely that they are going to bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: their own investors. Also note that the G92 moniker is an invention of the "rumor mill".
I've said it before: the rumor mill sure does spread like wildfire. There was never a code given to the high end, but there is a G92 that exists, some people just put the two together without second thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
So talk to me like I'm 5 years old, is the 8700GTS going to be faster than the 8800GTS 320MB or not?
(by the looks the 8700 will be similar to gts 320 in performance for a lower price)so says the rumour mill.
...the rumour mill has gone orrfff the rails i think :hehe:
"there will most likely be new cards out for christmas/new year as per usual from nvidia":hehe:
i can only hope the core/and shrink is an advance on what they already have in production.
Ati's offerings in the same time frame are only revisions/shrink of what they already have in production - they are not even on par with 8800 gtX yet :doh:
I dont expect anything ground breaking until the latter half of 2008 in the graphics card "world"
So; will there be a monster gXX card out for q4/q1 07/08? from nvidia - i reckon NOT...which means i will be pleasantly surprised if there is when we get to that point in time :)
i think we have all been spoiled by the 7800 & 8800 series cards and that we arent going to see comparable advances in graphics grunt until h2 2008.
hope i'm wrong ;)
"brontosaurus's were thin at one end, big and fat in the middle, and thin at the other end"
Most likely slightly worse than the 8800GTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundersausage
I've heard that somebody's designing hold-downs for LN2 pots for graphics cards ;) [ hint is very clear...just think... ]