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03-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Origin_Unknown

anyone got some advice on settings for an e8500 and g.Skill PC8000?
03-04-2008, 04:21 PM
t_ski

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Originally Posted by AKHandyman

Just wanted to say thanks Praz for all that you do in here ... I read all the posts in this thread, though I don't have a lot to contribute ... I just keep playing around with my Q6600 on this board and seeing what it can do ... and I'd be completely lost without your dedicated input and advice ... so please keep up the good work ... :up: (somebody pay this man!!:D )

AKHandyman, I'd be interested in seeing your BIOS settings. Here's a template from Praz:

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Originally Posted by Praz

Code:

CPU Feature Page Thermal Management Control................Enabled PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled CIE Function..............................Auto Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled Virtualization Technology.................Enabled Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled Main BIOS Page Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2 Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0 CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x CPU Clock.................................450 MHz Boot Up Clock.............................Auto DRAM Speed................................333/800 PCIE Clock................................100MHz PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled Voltage Setting Page CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong Host Slew Rate............................Weak GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110 CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110 North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110 DRAM Timing Page Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast Enhance Addressing........................Fast T2 Dispatch...............................Auto Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5 RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4 Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12 All Precharge to Act......................5 REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26 Performance Level.........................8 Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below MCH ODT Latency...........................2 Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14 Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8 Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4 Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5 Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4 Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3 ALL PRE to Refresh........................5 Read Delay Phase Adjust Page Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Page Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 445pd DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 512ps DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 267ps Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 67 DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 370 DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 356 DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 345 Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 779 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
03-04-2008, 06:46 PM
Boyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandMasterJ

New member here. Set up a system with the DFI X38, and just wanted to add some input about 3rd party coolers. I'm using the Thermalright Mosfet 9S Type 2 cooler, it fits, for anyone thinking about using it, but if you don't use the thermal pad provided it will actually short out the components above the mosfets that it rests on. (It bridges them all.) Luckily, I don't think my board was damaged.

Can you post picture with HR 09 S on your mb?
Thx
03-04-2008, 06:47 PM
zsamz_

i had gtl settings figured wrong :rofl:
but it worked for me :rofl: since i set cpuvtt higher than cpu core
my sttings for 500fsb
cpu 1.52v
xtraad 0
vdmm 2.27
sb 1.76
nb 1.6
cpuvtt 1.53
vdroop dissabled
cvc 3.45
buffer strong
slew weak
ennabled
gtl1 105
gtl2 105
gtl3 111
03-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Smokin_Joe

Well i wasn't satisfied with my high pwn and nb temps so i reversed the tornado on my HR-03 GT to blow at the nb heatsink and was able to ziptie an old Thermaltake fan(from a Volcano6cu) over the mosfet heatsink. Dropped my load temps down at least 12C on both and my videocard temp still stays under 40C while gaming. :) I tried another method before this and ended up messing my nb heatsink up. It looks like i've had this mobo for a while now. :(

I asked this question before but didn't get an answer. What's the max voltage i should run this X3210 for daily use on air? I know the Intel specs say 1.37v and that is where i'm at now. This chip can go higher with more volts but i'd like to keep it for a while and don't want to kill it.

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.
03-04-2008, 07:41 PM
t_ski

Most people consider 5-10% safe. Going from 1.37v, that means 1.44 to 1.5v.

However, of equal improtance is the cooling. I admit I am not as familiar with Xeon specs, but I can imagine that since it is a server-class CPU it's meant to handle a bit more than a consumer grade chip. Just make sure that whatever voltage you decide to put into it, that it stays well under the rated temps spec'ed by Intel for your CPU.
03-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Jor3lBR

Q9450 vs Q6600

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Originally Posted by Russian

Yup, see here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178855

Hey guys I just sold my Q6600 (that could get into 9*450) looking to buy a low VID version of the Q6600 (1.20v or 1.21v max).

But now that I know those Q9450 will be out soon what do you guys think? I really don't know much about the 'overclokability' on those new Cpu's as for the Q6600 it can well hit the 70% OC mark.

Will I be able to run the Q9450 stable 8*500 in my rig to achieve 4000Mhz or at least set that goal or that's out of the question?

Also It would cost me only $85 to get the Q9450 instead of a Q6600 with a 1.20vid.
03-04-2008, 07:55 PM
Smokin_Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

Most people consider 5-10% safe. Going from 1.37v, that means 1.44 to 1.5v.

However, of equal improtance is the cooling. I admit I am not as familiar with Xeon specs, but I can imagine that since it is a server-class CPU it's meant to handle a bit more than a consumer grade chip. Just make sure that whatever voltage you decide to put into it, that it stays well under the rated temps spec'ed by Intel for your CPU.

Alright guess i can try and take this thing up a little higher. I'm definitely going to keep my load temp under 65C, Intel says max is 85C so i should be ok. Thanks!
03-04-2008, 07:57 PM
Jor3lBR

Ballistix COD (cause of death)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin_Joe

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.
03-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Smokin_Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.

Hmm so should i just take the heatspreaders off? I got an OCZ XTC cooler plus a 140mm side intake fan behind that blowing over them but i wonder if that is doing any good. :confused:
03-04-2008, 08:11 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin_Joe

Hmm so should i just take the heatspreaders off? I got an OCZ XTC cooler plus a 140mm side intake fan behind that blowing over them but i wonder if that is doing any good. :confused:

If the heatspreaders come off like mine did the extra cooling will do no good. I also have extra cooling for them.

What I did was take 2 vs 1gb out of the case and use these on the other 2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2106

The problem with that solution is that obliviously they look ridiculous and the 4 gigas wont fit there together.

So I'm thinking about using a 5% arctic epoxi + 95% arctic silver mix on the chips and re-attach to the sinks, but the warranty would go bye bye I guess.

Another think to consider is to use 3rd party hs and preserve warranty.
03-04-2008, 08:17 PM
zsamz_

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin_Joe

Well i wasn't satisfied with my high pwn and nb temps so i reversed the tornado on my HR-03 GT to blow at the nb heatsink and was able to ziptie an old Thermaltake fan(from a Volcano6cu) over the mosfet heatsink. Dropped my load temps down at least 12C on both and my videocard temp still stays under 40C while gaming. :) I tried another method before this and ended up messing my nb heatsink up. It looks like i've had this mobo for a while now. :(

I asked this question before but didn't get an answer. What's the max voltage i should run this X3210 for daily use on air? I know the Intel specs say 1.37v and that is where i'm at now. This chip can go higher with more volts but i'd like to keep it for a while and don't want to kill it.

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.

4 sticks are ballistix 8500s i only need 2.1v"real" to go 1200mhz
i got 2 amd cpu fans blowin on em:D they never get even warm
i retired my ballistix for now "only gonna use them on high fsb
since i not gaming now i put back my mushkins in they only like cas 4 i cant even run them cas 5 over 1000mhz
i need 2.22v for this
03-04-2008, 08:31 PM
GrandMasterJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyu

Can you post picture with HR 09 S on your mb?
Thx

Sure, I'll try! I don't think I'll get a very good angle on it.

Am I missing something? Where is the option to set command rate in the Bios? I have OCZ Flex that should be capable of 1T command rate.
03-04-2008, 08:32 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.

heatsink or not you need fans to cool them
voltage dont matter its luck of the draw i got 6 dead sticks never went over 2.26v 24/7 n always stayed cool
03-04-2008, 08:51 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

heatsink or not you need fans to cool them
voltage dont matter its luck of the draw i got 6 dead sticks never went over 2.26v 24/7 n always stayed cool

Active cooling a must http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5508 :)
03-04-2008, 09:04 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Active cooling a must http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5508 :)

got em cooled from day 1 eva2000:) they still died :rofl:
03-04-2008, 10:29 PM
zsamz_

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i thought i'd repost these its based on dfip35 but verry helpfull
first one is CPU And Northbridge GTL Default Settings

second one is Northbridge GTL Default Settings
03-05-2008, 12:17 AM
emoners

@zsamz_: but that is based on 65nm procs right?
03-05-2008, 02:05 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

@zsamz_: but that is based on 65nm procs right?

yes but its vttvolts so should be good for 45mm also
btw by those tables add+1-2
03-05-2008, 09:27 AM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

AKHandyman, I'd be interested in seeing your BIOS settings. Here's a template from Praz:

Thanks, i didnt want to go searching for it again. I'll probably read through this whole thread in order to get everything how i like it.
03-05-2008, 11:01 AM
sparks

Got my board Finally.

I am trying to put this in an antec 900 case and with a 120 Extreme and the little NB and fans I am out of room.

I can't mount the TRUE facing out the back its heat pipes hit the NB so I face it up but I can't get a fan on it and the NB too.

ok I Should have gone water...DUMB but now with a $60 doorstop I need help what and how should I mount all this stuff ?

thanks for any help

ps put the video in slot 3 ?
03-05-2008, 11:37 AM
Ace-a-Rue

crazyea:

i want to apologize for my conduct and swinging insults your way...you didn't deserve it and i really feel bad about it...it wasn't very christian of me to act like that...i shouldn't have taken it that personally about the way you indicate a post is not factually correct...i was wong!

PEACE:) to you, my friend!
03-05-2008, 11:56 AM
t_ski

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparks

Got my board Finally.

I am trying to put this in an antec 900 case and with a 120 Extreme and the little NB and fans I am out of room.

I can't mount the TRUE facing out the back its heat pipes hit the NB so I face it up but I can't get a fan on it and the NB too.

ok I Should have gone water...DUMB but now with a $60 doorstop I need help what and how should I mount all this stuff ?

thanks for any help

ps put the video in slot 3 ?

Can you post a pic of your board in the case? I would think there should be room between the NB and the TRUE. My guess is either that the NB HS was installed with the fins near the top or the fan is sitting down too low on the TRUE. If the latter is the case, is there a way to slide the fan up over the base of the NB HS like on my Noctua NH-U12P?
03-05-2008, 01:40 PM
crazyea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

crazyea:

i want to apologize for my conduct and swinging insults your way...you didn't deserve it and i really feel bad about it...it wasn't very christian of me to act like that...i shouldn't have taken it that personally about the way you indicate a post is not factually correct...i was wong!

PEACE:) to you, my friend!

Thanks Cap'n. Equally sorry. I know I can he hard headed. Peace.

Let's have a beer. :toast:
03-05-2008, 02:43 PM
TwinsPoppa

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparks

ps put the video in slot 3 ?

Slot PCIE3 (x16) - yup, that's where I have my video card installed.

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