anyone have results of oc'ing a quad qx6800 on here??
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anyone have results of oc'ing a quad qx6800 on here??
Hi Guys,
Based on this review :
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ix38_quadgt/10
I need further comment from users here on the above.
I am new to Abit motherboard.
I am keen on the ABIT IX38 QuadGT but was wondering whether this board is reliable and stable with the latest BIOS.
Things I am worried are :
1) Lost BIOS setting after pulling Power Plug
2) Too hot PWM
3) More FSB setting
Any ABIT users can comment. Thanks:)
:lol: must be a disturbance in the force between you & us :D afterr the original issues you had seeing the site. Sorry will pass it on to dave m8:)Quote:
SS, how long does it take for the registration email to get to me for clink.org/forums?
Yep i was gobsmacked when i realised that was the only thing different. What is the WB switch ??
Depends what bios your using, there are issues with 1:1.25 straps in earlier bios , only really fixced in BTA 12.08 & Official 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beastage
1) = No issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by RAYRAY
2) Using a fan it's fine
6) Don't understand the question Than what ??
luck:)
the new x38 biose helps a bit in rebooting after a bad oc . thanks abit .
Sorry.
Intended setup
Q6600 (Intend to overclock from stock 2.4 GHz to 3.0 GHz)
4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-1066
2 x Gecube 3870
150 WD raptor
Seasonic S12+ 650W PSU
any comment from ABIT User? Will the Motherboard give me any stability and BIOS issues I mentioned earlier.
Thanks:)
Yeah, and there won't be any buzzing until the moment it starts to die.
Just tell them to run QMC (Quantum Monte Carlo, it's a BOINC project) constantly for >1 week with a CPU drawing over 100A (Quad@3,6ghz or higher) and the board's sure to go down...
You can see the voltages I was using initially here - I even lowered ICH Voltage to 1,25 and MCH to 1,35 after a few days and it worked... for a few more days :rolleyes:
Clock settings were 450x8, 4x1G Mem running 1:1,2 divider, PCIe clock 102. Memtimings 5-5-5-15-30-3-3-3-10-2T.
CPU features everything on except EIST. Anything I forgot?
cheers voltages were the main thing they were looking for :)
Hey, I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I was looking at this thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=173287
he compares the q6600 to the q9450 at 3.6ghz on ix38... Aside from it being better, Take a looke at the PWM Amperage. On the q9450, it only takes up 60A, and the q6600 does the regular 100A+ (on load)
I wonder if it can be corrected in the bios, or if it's a the Kentfield CPUs, because my e2160 at 3.25ghz only does 35A at load.
I don't think you'll encounter any problems with your intended setup.
From what I notice, everybody here has been been getting 100+ Amps when overclocking their Q6600 past 3.5ghz, no matter what the Vcore, oh how low of a VID the CPU has.
Yeah, I know the voltage is not the same. But at a .06v difference of voltage settings, it shouldn't be a 40% of a difference.
Yeah, from the looks of it, the q6600 seems like it is using too much.Quote:
Doesn't that make sense? the Q6600 should need more power than a Q9450
I thik folding will be safe to do with the q9450... when it's only a 60A load.
Yeah, only that you will try to run the Q9450 at 4Ghz+ - and voila you're back on 100 Amps ;)
Will be funny to see how many days my next one will hold when I put the Q6600 under SS running >4Ghz :rolleyes:
Theese days Abit sucks on delivering bios updates. Anyone know if it´s coming any new soon? E8400 and Final 12 bios wasn´t that good. Problems with multi, always stuck on that ½ multi no matter what.
i ask a harmless question and i get a sarcastic answer with the rolleyes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
you killed two boards and you are probably going to do in a third board...i would say you are not a master of finesse with motherboards.
AND...you ignored a recommendation from blind_ripper to add additional cooling and check the block pressure.
i won't give you the rolleyes back because you already know that you gave it to yourself for your poor showing with two dead motherboards.
Oh c'mon m8... that comment wasn't meant to be an attack on anyone's input and you know it. Being a little sarcastic is just the way I deal with this, because I never had dying mobos before and because it sucks.
Now, I have been around long enough to know that it's not my fault these boards died (except that I did overclock, which doesn't make me more guilty than any one of you).
I did check the block pressure, and like I said, it was as high as it gets.
Better cooling probably wouldn't help, considering andre X_X is having the same problems with a Dualcore. He was also running folding with >100A drawn from the CPU and he uses stock cooling with extra fans so I'm guessing it won't help either.
However, if you are right and the problem really is about cooling, we will see with the next one, since I will be using the new prototype block Mips sent me that goes directly onto the PWMs with thermal grease.
I really can't accept you blaming me for being the one who killed these boards out of stupidity or carelessness. It's not true and you know it - you'd also be mad if this had happened to you, now wouldn't you :mad:
:mad: So by this reasoning, I killed my board because I suck at OC'ing? Even though I did not change the stock cooling other than adding a fan, and I did nothing more than what I've done with all my previous systems, which is Fold 24/7. I call BS, and you're out of line Ace.:nono:
Well, now all the sudden , each time I reboot my PC I get BIOS ROM error and everything turns to default! it is all the sudden, I didn't change anything.
maybe you and jcool should team up and hold hands in every forum...you work well together killing motherboards.
i care none about what you think!...i have zero respect for you and for your wise arse answers...i respect jcool more than you so butt out!...this is between me and jcool.
ok...that's an acceptable answer but why take it out on me!...you really need to address that with yourself...
anytime we, as a collective group of overclockers, adjust the design of the board by altering the cooling method, we are taking a big chance at harming or killing the board....blame is, would be soley on us, not abit.Quote:
Now, I have been around long enough to know that it's not my fault these boards died (except that I did overclock, which doesn't make me more guilty than any one of you).
you should have stated that but you got defensive with blind_ripper.Quote:
I did check the block pressure, and like I said, it was as high as it gets. Better cooling probably wouldn't help, considering andre X_X is having the same problems with a Dualcore. He was also running folding with >100A drawn from the CPU and he uses stock cooling with extra fans so I'm guessing it won't help either.
i wish you good luck that the modified block works for you...but...i will tell you that 165 amps is not right...i would have discontinued right away and have taken a smaller overclock to prevent the failure....i had to do that with my 2nd 9650...it is a bad overclocker and it draws the board into overheating the core and PWM...Quote:
However, if you are right and the problem really is about cooling, we will see with the next one, since I will be using the new prototype block Mips sent me that goes directly onto the PWMs with thermal grease.
like i said above...anytime we modifiy the board we HAVE TO ACCEPT responsibility in killing the board.Quote:
I really can't accept you blaming me for being the one who killed these boards out of stupidity or carelessness. It's not true and you know it - you'd also be mad if this had happened to you, now wouldn't you :mad:
Maybe you should change your tag from Xtreme Mentor to Xtreme Arse. :mad:
Since you're such a bad ass OC'er, I challenge you to go get a Q6600, OC it to 3.6+ on an IX38, and SMP fold for 1 month without any buzzing sounds. Instead of accusing people of killing boards through negligence/stupidity, how about you contribute something useful to this thread??
Seriously, why do you feel the need to attack me in a personal manner? You've shown an amazing level of immaturity in response to a dissenting opinion of your posts.
Could we actually try to work toward figuring out the problems with this board and pressuring Abit to fix them? I'm not going anywhere. If all you're going to do is try to perpetuate a flame war, then please leave us be and go get your jollies elsewhere.
well just want to share my ix38 n q66 already run for a few month running at 3,6@1,4v bench ~4G
still doing ok :D even not 24/7 but its my only gaming n bench rig
just re-apply th paste n use nut&bolt +4cm fan :) but i guess some get unlucky :yepp:
chill every body:toast:
i wonder when we can expect some more beta bios?maybe i can reach 550fsb on air with my q66 :ROTF:
LISTEN, you opened your big mouth first...this was between jcool and myself...SO...when you entered the discussion you caused the REPLY...so...stay out of it!
as to working out the problem with this board really comes down to the user...if you overclock with high voltages, you are going to get high amperage and a LOT of heat!..the two can and WILL destroy the board.
Grow up.
So why does this same problem not happen with other motherboards using digital PWM's? If other manufacturer's mobos are not having these problems (and I haven't seen any such reports) then it points to a problem and/or limitation with Abit's board, not the user.
R*r, good to hear your board is doing well. What's the amperage reading in uGuru?
where is the amperage post in uguru?
Check out the uguru pic in this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=681
Feeling the love. :ROTF: not to be Mean or anything but Why are you folding? I mean is part of your career or just a hobby. because would it be cheaper to just buy four playstation 3's and fold with them? Or how about a server board and some xeon's which probably would be more equipped for the higher temps.
I'm all for curing Cancer and such but please do it in a Safe and non fire Hazard way! :up:
will uguru show the amperage on the ip35 pro board!and if so where do you slect the amp? thanks scorpion!!!
i know this is dum Q but what is folding
I'm afraid you still missed my point - I did NOT intend to take it out on any one (or even specifically on you) and honestly, I don't see why you felt that way. You just gonna have to believe me, or ignore it.
About the 165A, of course I stepped down as soon as I saw it... but it didn't help, because one or more phase chips died. See, after the incident, I got like 110A at 3Ghz with 1,1V or so :(
Bottom line is, this mobo definitely has problems with permanent high load, no matter if the cooling is altered or not. I sure hope Johnny and Abit can figure it out together.
It's a distributed computing project done through Stanford University. Basically there's a program that runs in the background and takes advantage of your unused CPU cycles. The project has to do with gene and protein folding for cancer and Alzheimer's treatment research. Check it out at http://folding.stanford.edu
:wtf:
thanks amdfreak i will checked the site out it sound great.
thanks ace for the info in on the two boards, by the way have heard anything in to regards of IX48MAX.:shrug:
not yet...
Abit 12 bios working quite good with the E8400
Max Bus 560 FSB 2243
http://www.imgx.org/thumbs/small/11661_2l3lr/560.jpg
24/7 500x8 4ghz 1.28v
http://www.imgx.org/thumbs/small/116...4000stable.jpg
what kind of vtt and gtls settings are you using on 500x8? I've got nearly the exact same setup and i can do 485x8 rock solid, but 490x8 is unstable regardless of the cpu voltage (I have tried 1.3 plus). I know i havent hit the fsb wall yet.
using 1.2v cpu
vtt 1.25
gtls 67 etc
Is there anyone using MCW30 to cool northbrigde of this board?
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=437
maybe this one would fit on the board.....
Is this board better then a Asus Maximus Formula?
This is what my E8400 is doing on this board with latest official release bios
E8400 + Abit IX38 @ 572 FSB :D
Following the link it says DICE ;)
I had the same problem once when using another board. It was caused by insufficient voltage supplied to one of the components in the motherboard.
My problem before was solved by raising Vcore one step.
May be you should consider raising your voltage too, one or two steps m8, and pray that it helps. :yepp:
This might help you ;)
Really want a new bios to :)
Its done with DICE. Trying for more. Too bad this board doesnt support Memset,it becomes a pain when you want to bench at high clocks.
Atleast Abit should include memory timings thing in uGuru :(
being able to save the "Default" uguru settings such as fan control, what you want displayed, etc.. to like a profile file. One Click profile load. that way when an OC goes bad you don't have to reset everything. I'm sick of going to lan party every friday and having to set my oc and fan control there, then coming home and doing it again!
in the IP35 Pro bios, you have the capability to save overclock profiles within the bios by using F6 key and then, recover them using the F7 key...you mean that you do not have that capability on this board, in the bios?
You can save profiles in the ix38... and it's been useful a few times, since the bios tends to reset once in a while when working with the board.
Anyhow, I'm having issues with my 3ware 9650SE-4LPML card in the 3rd PCIe x16 (x4 reality) slot.
For some reason, the max bandwidth I am getting at any configuration is 150MB/s. When I test the drives as JBOD, they work normally on their own. I don't know if it's the PCIe lane itself that's limiting the card to go beyond 150MB/s or my card is defective.
I've tried at both stock and overclocked speed, and on both Vista x64 and Windows XP 32bit. Same issue. Tried different drivers from 9.4 to 9.5
Has anyone else been running a raid card successfully on their ix38 at getting it past 150MB/s?
My System:
Q6600 @ 3.52ghz
Abit IX38 Board
4x2gigs of Gskill DDR2 800mhz ram (8 total).
Quadro FX 5500 in PCIe x16 Slot 1
Geforce 8800GT in PCIe x16 Slot 2
3Ware 9650SE-4LPML in PCIe x16 Slot 3
Adaptec Scsi Card 39160 in PCI Slot 2
Nothing attached to Jmicron controller
Maxtor 250gig, 200gig, and Pioneer DVD plugged into the Intel Controller
4x Samsung F1 HD103UJ 1TB drives to the 3Ware Card
HP Ultrium 960 Tape Drive to Scsi card.
What I am going to do, is pull out the 8800GT, and try the 3ware on the in the 2nd PCIe x16 slot. I believe that's controlled by the Northbridge.
*Update*
Okay, I tried a few different configs, The 3ware only works properly on the 3rd PCIe slot. It wouldn't get detected on the 2nd slot with the Quadro on the first slot. Then I tried the Quadro on the 2nd slot with the 3ware on the 1st Slot, and the computer wouldn't boot up properly, even after resetting the bios :(
I'm going to just setup up a JBOD with all the drives, and see how the windows software raid in disk management handles it.
I´ll will recieve a qx9650 today and i wonder which bios is the best for quads ? Using final 12 right now, should i stick with it or ??
hmm well thats funny, my F6 profile save feature doesn't seem to work. well atleast for the OC settings..
lol How could anyone recommend this board to someone with limited PC knowledge when the bios likes to reset everytime the power is unplugged. Specially if you had it slightly OC'ed for them like most high end companies do.
Don't get me wrong this is a great board but still.. And how long is it going to take to get the next beta bios out? I guess they feel 12.09 was their best shot LMAO.
Once all the major brands release their x48 boards, i'm going shopping.
Sadly I've noticed the same... the presets seem to work in an ackward way...
And here is something fantastic I found! the reason the BIOS decides to reset it self all the sudden? its uguru.... each time I use uguru and reboot the bios resets even tho I only use uguru to monitor voltages and temps, as long as uguru is not used I can reboot hundred times and its stable.
I've 100% confirmed it by rebooting, loading and rebooting again and got a perfect match between bios resets and uguru.
Using BIOS 12 final and uguru 3.1.7 (latest)
use your Uguru "Black Box" to report that to Abit.
Is posible config G.SKill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK with this MB??I''m trying but stop while boot. Stop in code 90 and wait 10 seconds or several minutes but finaly boot. Sometimes stop in code C1 too and not boot.
I can't type the correct timming because MB restart with last good conf knowed,
And when i change ram voltage, same results.
Someone have this MB with this memos??
Thanks & sorry my english
I'm using that memory, 4 x 1Gb actually. I had a little trouble When I tried to boot for the Very first time but i dropped down to 1 stick then went in to the bios and set my settings to factory 4-4-3-5 @ 2.1V
since then i've flashed the bios numorous times, reset the board a ton of times, and it resets it self every time i go to and from lan party. I've had no problems with it at all. currently running all 4Gb at 5-5-4-5 1002mhz with 2.15v. I've been playing around with find stability with best performance. my best friend runs the same ram too. we did the exact same thing with his. 1 stick then the rest. Let it set the rest with auto just put in the factory first four settings of 4-4-3-5. Also you could see what strap your running in the OC section.
after i came home from gaming at my buddies the thing booted just fine and had my OC settings stored... so its like random if it will use them or not.
After coming home another time i had a USB code freeze a boot up (with of course reset OC settings) so I just hit the reset button and guess what it booted up with my older OC settings! But again froze on the USB code. Unplugged the USB keyboard i had and rebooted. It booted up just fine but with the factory OC settings again :ROTF: SO somewhere the dumb thing is keeping my settings but just like a failed OC it automatically boots with the factory clocks.
Like i said if they would add a profile saving feature to Uguru (with Ram timings added too) it would be simple to fix because the other settings in the bios are being saved just not the custom clocks. Well jig rig i guess, they could just write a good bios huh.
Hi Adrunodro, :welcome: to the forum:D , code 90 is a usb issue. Try unplugging your usb flash drive if you have one.
luck:)
Thanks, i send my mobo to alternate, i think that have a problem. While MB post do a list of pci device, firsly usb not are listed and does't works, and many boots later usb have current and are listed.
I think that i'll buy this MB again, thanks very much, i`'m much more relaxed:D :D :D
Hi @ all! First I'd like to say that XS is definetly the best oc-forum! I'm glad to be a part of it now :) You are so crazy, thats impressive :D
This IX38 is quite good. I'm running an E2160@3ghz@1.34v. But I have problems using other dividers than 1:1,5. All other dividers let the system crash when Windows starts. Currently I'm running Bios 12.B09. Memory is a pair of HyperX PC2-8500@2,2V..
I would like to try other Dividers to determine the max clock of my memory sticks, but I hit a wall at 350 with this crappy cpu.. :( Hope Abit fix this with next Bios..
greetings pl4cid
I posted this at a other forum too but just in case someone here has a clue about my problem:
Hey guys! I recently bought a new setup and it is as follows:
E8400
Abit IX38 QuadGT
Gskill 2x2GB PC2 8000
3870 Crossfire
600W Cooltek PSU
Vista64 Ultimate
I am currently running my E8400 stable at 9*450 with CPU VID set at 1.3375. I've been aiming towards 500 FSB though
like 8*500 for example. The problem is that when I try to set my mch to 1.40 or above from Uguru the computer just
freezes, I tried setting it from bios to but if I remember correctly I couldn't get it to boot with the new mch value.
I am using these voltages currently:
CPU VID 1.3375
CPU VTT 1.25
MCH 1.28
ICH 1.10
DDR2 2.050
Rest default
So my questions are:
Do I need to change any other voltages/settings to achieve 500 FSB?
What should these voltages/settings be at?
And any idea what might be the cause of freezing when setting mch above 1.40?
Bios I'm using is the newest one, ID 12.System cooled with water and a 120mm fan blowing at NB/Memory @ 8v.
Except from mch above 1.41+ @ 1:1 divider you do not need other voltages.
VTT can be as low as you could set in bios (default for E8400 is 1.1)
Well I tried it now again and it didn't freeze now so thats good. I guess it was the active cooling at NB that made the trick, dont know for sure. Seems stable now with the settings:
8*500
CPU VID 1.3375
CPU VTT 1.27
MCH 1.45
ICH 1.12
DDR2 2.150
Rest default
Thanks for the info Spyrus
Testing a retail E8500 on this board now. So far orthos stable at 4330mhz with 1,4250 vcore and running Vista Home Premium X64. And final bios 12
http://bandwidth.se/thumbs/5430.jpg
happy to finally join this forum :P So long time for the validation :( We've a thread on the forum i'm used to post but it's not as active is it's here.
I received my E8500 last week, here are results.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1...6337ea7.th.jpg
I first tried the board with a E6600 which wasn't that perfect, many problem with memory settings in the BIOS, same memory similar settings it's working now :F
Hello
Can anyone help me to set up the voltages in bios? i have right now stable 24/7:
CPU: Q6600@3600Mhz 9X400
CPU VID - 1.4250 V
CPU Offset - 0.010 V
CPU Target Voltage - 1.4350 V
DDR2 - 2.30 V (960mhzz 5.5.5.15)
MCH1.25 - 1.37
ICHIO 1.5 - 1.60 V
CPU VTT - 1.27 V
DDR REF Default
ICH 1.05 - 1.15
CPU GTLREF 0&2 67%
CPU GTLREF 1&3 67%
I want to overclock my cpu to 3800-3900 but when i set cpu vcore to for exapmple 1.5200 after 2 minutes or less in ORTHOS i have a restart. What can i set in bios to oc my q6600 a bit more? I dont want to set vcore 1.6 because for me its to high:))
How this mobo is doing with 2x2GB sticks?
I am interesting in either G.Skill PC8000 5-5-5-x and new Muskin Redlines PC8000@5-5-5-x.
Can they do 540+ stable on this mobo?
I will have a setup with 450fsb@5:6 divider@540 MHz on memory that
is why i am asking that.
What are the lowest PLL and VTT settings in bios (and what uguru monitor shows for them)?