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08-01-2008, 09:01 AM
ThugsRook

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Originally Posted by Timbosan

My cpu has decided it no longer wants to be stable at 534 FSB...

i dont think its actually possible to be 24/7 stable above 500fsb, and i dont thnk its our CPUs or Mem.

benchmarks show some things get much slower @ 505fsb, and again @ 510, and again @ 515 !!!

i personally think 1:1 is getting messed up -OR- the PCI lock doesnt work.
08-01-2008, 09:02 AM
truehighroller

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Originally Posted by JHS

I think you have 1102 now ;)

But I'm wondering same thing. Is there any changes between 1102 beta and 1103

Oh well. Takes only few minutes to flash and add settings again so maybe I flash anyways later today :)

:p: ty for pointing that out.. So what does the boot block do??
08-01-2008, 09:11 AM
truehighroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

:p: ty for pointing that out.. So what does the boot block do??

Sorry,
08-01-2008, 09:21 AM
truehighroller

Never mind I see so it is the part of the bios that detects an issue. After trying there last BIOS I am pretty damn scared to try this one considering it is the part of the BIOS that's saves everything when somthing goes wrong.
08-01-2008, 09:56 AM
Pntgrd

What is the Secret to get the board to reboot to a non-overclock so you can change things when you get a bit overzeolous with the speeds? I thought it was just shut it off/on but that is not working well for me. Last night it took over 30 restarts to get into the bios.
08-01-2008, 10:08 AM
wongnog

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

[ 1103 ]
----------------------
Update boot block.

There's a 1003 bios for P5Q-E on the ASUS FTP site too. Is it a step down from the 1101 beta bios you posted earlier?

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-1003.zip
08-01-2008, 10:24 AM
truehighroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pntgrd

What is the Secret to get the board to reboot to a non-overclock so you can change things when you get a bit overzeolous with the speeds? I thought it was just shut it off/on but that is not working well for me. Last night it took over 30 restarts to get into the bios.

You can press the restart button when it comes on, fast twice in a row and it should reboot and clear itself.
08-01-2008, 10:51 AM
JHS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pntgrd

What is the Secret to get the board to reboot to a non-overclock so you can change things when you get a bit overzeolous with the speeds? I thought it was just shut it off/on but that is not working well for me. Last night it took over 30 restarts to get into the bios.

I usually turn PSU switch off. When mobo has lost all power I can turn it on and it always boots fine :)

Flashed my board with 1103. Everest results looks same than with 1102. No problems booting with my usual settings. Will run some prime etc to make sure everything is still working properly. So far no problems with 1103.
08-01-2008, 10:53 AM
Martin.v.r

BIOS 1103 :up: i can run multip.. x6 :up: all voltset on auto 500x6 E8400
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=397263

is SB volt set new?
08-01-2008, 11:08 AM
truehighroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.v.r

BIOS 1103 :up: i can run multip.. x6 :up: all voltset on auto 500x6 E8400
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=397263

is SB volt set new?

Sounds new to me..
08-01-2008, 11:19 AM
JHS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.v.r

BIOS 1103 :up: i can run multip.. x6 :up: all voltset on auto 500x6 E8400
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=397263

is SB volt set new?

You are aware of the fact that board overvolts a lot with auto settings, right?

SB volt been there. I think even 803 had it. At least 1102 had

I think I'll try to stabilize 500+ FSB this weekend with my E8400 too. Getting bored with 9x450 :P
08-01-2008, 11:33 AM
Martin.v.r

an i got all multip..x6/..... :) in bios 1103

it will not read xp in at 600x6 FSB some ideas,to volt set
08-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Paodaf

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Just change the FSB Term Voltage... and try to find the lowest stable setting besides 1.1...

To gain some ram performance try to set Transaction booster to Manual and go as low as possible... 10 should be doable... also try to play with the Clock twister : Moderate maybe...

For the rest looks fine...

Leeghoofd
Thanks for helping:)
I have stable OCCT tests on FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1. Do you think i'm still need to overvolt it to something 1.1.....?
Also i put CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) on 0.67 . Is it normal for 45nm cpu?
I did some google search about GTL voltages, but not really understand what is the best for 45nm cpu.
08-01-2008, 12:30 PM
Leeghoofd

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Originally Posted by Paodaf

Leeghoofd
Thanks for helping:)
I have stable OCCT tests on FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1. Do you think i'm still need to overvolt it to something 1.1.....?
Also i put CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) on 0.67 . Is it normal for 45nm cpu?
I did some google search about GTL voltages, but not really understand what is the best for 45nm cpu.

1.1 in fact overvolts big time mate...it's 1.5 in reality, one of the reasons I want you to change it to 1.12 then it overvolts to about 1.13.... test stability then again...
08-01-2008, 01:24 PM
R@ptor =]]

What is the max Vtt i can put for my e6750?
to 3.6ghz i need 1.26v.
thanks
08-01-2008, 01:43 PM
Paodaf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

1.1 in fact overvolts big time mate...it's 1.5 in reality

oops
now it on 1.12

off-top: the temperatures Q9450 is 75C in OCCT monitoring and 65C in realtemp. Is it Tjunc issue and i should to believe that it around 65C?
08-01-2008, 02:12 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]

What is the max Vtt i can put for my e6750?
to 3.6ghz i need 1.26v.
thanks

No prob even at 1.4 with 65nm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paodaf

oops
now it on 1.12

off-top: the temperatures Q9450 is 75C in OCCT monitoring and 65C in realtemp. Is it Tjunc issue and i should to believe that it around 65C?

Yep it's 65 then mate..
08-01-2008, 03:19 PM
AgentGOD

How is BIOS 1103 doing for you guys?
08-01-2008, 03:25 PM
PortCitySlim

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Originally Posted by AgentGOD

How is BIOS 1103 doing for you guys?

I just flashed it about 2 mins ago. Didn't really look around for anything new but so far I can see no difference. Maybe 1103 is just the official version of 1102, who knows. I will do some more testing tonight, working on hitting PL8 still.
08-01-2008, 03:48 PM
NaMcO

To everyone who commented: I will investigate the voltages tomorrow, thanks for the comments. This E8400 even on the 680i i had, needed 1,42v (real) to be stable at this speed. I know it's a bit too much and the problem might be something else, but if i lower the voltage any further, the system just crashes after a few minutes Prime95.

Anyway and even if i'm fully watercooled, i'll try to lower them tomorrow as i said, bit tired today.
08-01-2008, 07:19 PM
wongnog

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Originally Posted by NBF

I have same fsb with 803 and 1102 BIOSes

Most of the settings were on Auto in my 500+fsb runs!

The ones that I mannualy set are the following

CPU Ratio Setting: 7
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15

AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Performance Level: 10
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.500
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.5 (probably can be much lower, but I didn't try)

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
All settings: Disabled

NBF, I'm trying your settings with my Q6600 (G0) and P5Q-E (1101 beta bios). I found I couldn't boot into Vista 64 without keeping VCore and NBCore close to 1.50 V like you. However my system isn't Prime95 stable, keeps freezing after a couple minutes, so I'm progressively dialing down my FSB frequency. I'm down to 494x7 right now, but my temps are hovering around 71-72°C. I think that's the max recommended temp for my chip according to Intel. Should I be worried at all?
08-01-2008, 07:36 PM
wongnog

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Yep it's 65 then mate..

Leeghoofd I notice temp discrepancies between CoreTemp and RealTemp on my Q6600. CT reports 73-73-67-67°C vs. RealTemp's 68-68-62-62°C. Which program is giving me the correct temp and why?
08-01-2008, 08:01 PM
NBF

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

NBF, I'm trying your settings with my Q6600 (G0) and P5Q-E (1101 beta bios). I found I couldn't boot into Vista 64 without keeping VCore and NBCore close to 1.50 V like you. However my system isn't Prime95 stable, keeps freezing after a couple minutes, so I'm progressively dialing down my FSB frequency. I'm down to 494x7 right now, but my temps are hovering around 71-72°C. I think that's the max recommended temp for my chip according to Intel. Should I be worried at all?

This chips are pretty hard to clock fsb and they are not equal, some will do higher. I think you may be close to stable now.

Trust RealTemp, it's a very well made software, it's as close as a software can get from the real temperature. I personally don't worry with anything below 70°C Prime full load.
08-01-2008, 08:31 PM
wongnog

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBF

This chips are pretty hard to clock fsb and they are not equal, some will do higher. I think you may be close to stable now.

Trust RealTemp, it's a very well made software, it's as close as a software can get from the real temperature. I personally don't worry with anything below 70°C Prime full load.

Thanks, RealTemp does seem like a great program so I'll make the switch over to that. I feel better seeing temps around 66-67°C, just makes me "feel" safer. :) I think my Q6600 can do 490x7 but I gave up on testing. Instead I wanted to try 444x8 so I could run my ram at its rated DDR2-1066 speeds (it was at DDR2-980 at 490x7). I changed all voltages to auto except VDimm=2.0V and NBCore=1.5V. So now my VCore is 1.44V on auto, makes me feel safer cause 1.50V for VCore was scaring me a little...
08-01-2008, 10:02 PM
PortCitySlim

Leeghoofd, I couldn't get PL8 to pass. I got PL9 to pass but not on moderate, got it set to light now. Think I might bump up my voltage a bit more, is that safe? My sticks are rated at 1.8-1.9v and I am on 1.94(2.02v in reality) now. Would it be safe for my to bump it up 1.96-1.98? Thanks

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