The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

Hi everyone, I haven't posted on these boards in quite awhile but now I am overclocking in full swing again

I took my Q6600 G0 from my older P5K-E board and placed it in the new Maximus Formula non-SE I recently purchased. This chip runs 24hrs P95 stable at 3200mhz 1.25v on air (TRUE) with the P5K board. The memory I use tested fine as well. (8x400)

My issue is that on the Maximus I get BSODs during P95. My temps are well within reason, 55C load on the hottest core. The NB runs about 45-47C load.

I lowered the speed to 3000 mhz (9x333) and I still BSOD. This CPU can go up to 3600mhz and run Prime... yet at any speed I eventually encounter a BSOD. The BSOD doesn't specify whether its a driver issue or not.

I'm about to test it at stock but I was wondering if any of you have some good insight at what may be the issue here. I know it is absolutely contained to the motherboard.

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Originally Posted by WFO

Actually if you have followed both Maximus threads, several tried but failed in their attempts to flash the to the Rampage bios. One person found a way and started a how to thread on it. :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580

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precisely. thank you.


btw that guy who got it to work must either be

a.) rich
b.) nuts
c.) this guy ----->http://insertcoin.hautetfort.com/ima..._Nukem_004.jpg

:p:

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did? some type of diagnostic or reset after not being properly shut off? thanks

i have another question actually, since you guys have the asus maximus formula, i assume some of you are using the supreme FXII. Im using it and i notice the volume in vista home premium is very low, regardless of turning every single audio slider in vista or the soundmax blackhawk programs. also, i cant change the setting that says "jazz session" on the program. weird ass program, never had this type of problem before, i mean i have turn the volume up a rediculous amount to get good sound. wtf gentlemen, WTF
thanks

I was just wondering what the vdrop mod is for, what does it help and why would anybody do it. which advantages you get from that.

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Originally Posted by Newms118

i have another question actually, since you guys have the asus maximus formula, i assume some of you are using the supreme FXII. Im using it and i notice the volume in vista home premium is very low, regardless of turning every single audio slider in vista or the soundmax blackhawk programs. also, i cant change the setting that says "jazz session" on the program. weird ass program, never had this type of problem before, i mean i have turn the volume up a rediculous amount to get good sound. wtf gentlemen, WTF
thanks

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Mine was low too. Go to control panel, sounds, right click on speakers, properties, system effects tab. check "Enable Sonic Focus Processing". Ajust away :D. They you can adjust from that Sound Max Black Hawk.

I cant change Jazz Session either. Its bugged.

Also, sometimes when I change settings in the BIOS and save, the computer shuts off for a few seconds, and turns on by it self. I'm not sure if it is supposed to do that or what. Never seen a computer do that? Anyone shed light on this please? Current BIOS: 1003

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

precisely. thank you.


btw that guy who got it to work must either be

a.) rich
b.) nuts
c.) this guy ----->http://insertcoin.hautetfort.com/ima..._Nukem_004.jpg

:p:

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LOL...I think the answer is all of the above. I've had great luck with bios 907 and my current hardware. Unless it can be proven the effort produces a 300mhz OC advantage, I won't be going there. ;)

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Originally Posted by Newms118

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did?

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Cold Boot Issue. I have the same thing happen from time to time when Cold Booting. Blame it on the Asus Anomalies.

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Originally Posted by .OCX

Cold Boot Issue. I have the same thing happen from time to time when Cold Booting. Blame it on the Asus Anomalies.

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I haven't seen that from cold boot yet. It happens to me sometimes when exit and saving from bios. Is that a normal amomally? Or a bad flash? I dont remember the 907 doing that.

It's normal mate, unplug ya power cord... put it back in and press power button , it iwll fire up shut down and then boot fine... all pretty normal... for Asus boards ... and my foxconn does the same... I think it's reuired by the Intel Chipset to set straps and co...

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Originally Posted by xgman

You can't load prior saved profiles with new bioses and expect no problems. You need to clear cmos and start over. Eveything in 1004 seems to be working fine for me.

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As I clearly stated, " I save and attempted to reload saved CMOS setting of a given BIOS version (ie: v0802) for BIOS v0802 when returning to it after a flash back from a higher version (ie: v0907). It is now that the BIOS saved that worked at say 9am did not work again at 9:15AM same day after coming back to v0802.

I save them for the sake of wanting to have 2 easy to select profiles and not have to thumb through the mmenues to have to click back n forth. I sort of figured this why we asked for them 3 yrs ago and they finally answered since first ROG series like my ASUS CROSSHAIR.

I never claimed to try to use one profile save from one version to another of different version. Somebody claimed they did but I never found it to work but I always saved my previous for the purpose of coming back if I didnt like it like the all to bad v0907. But then it corrupted the rest of the BIOS and RAM anywayz, So oh well, had to RMA it. Still waiting.

Other then this, a might be isolated issue, I really enjoy overclocking on this mobo. Not sure what all the hipe on sub RAM timings is and what real world areas are.

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Originally Posted by Nhawk

S3 suspend to RAM finally works again!!!
e6600 worked, but after switching to e8400, I couldn't come out of S3 suspend any more and had to start using hibernate (windows XP SP3).
Updated BiOS to 1004 and tested again and it's working fine once again.

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What BIOS were you on for each CPU (the same for both?)? I found S3 did not work at even stock and auto when on v0907. Iffy on the other beta's but very stable on v0602, even on a mild divider.

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Already flashed to 1004 now with asusupdate and it works fine. Now the ½ multi showing to :) Need to buy an USB-memory for EZ-flash later

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You can flash from any type of media drive BIOS can detect as long as it is not partitioned and is formated FAT32 and if ROM is in a folder, it must be in all cap's no spaces, just like DOS basically. I flash from my PSP, iPod and Nicon Camera and or Epson Printer w/ card reader. Just make sure USB mode is set to auto for floppy emulation.

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Originally Posted by 427cobra

could clock the q6600 to 4.2 no trouble at all ran all day at 3.9. now the qx9650, i can only get it to just over 4.0 any more and i get an overclocking fail wont even boot to windows.

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Can you PM me with an example of your BIOS voltages and other setting to compare. I am playing with my old Q6600 9GO) on a P5K Deluxe and might try it on here if it looks good. What is the max FSB you can get on any multi v/s highest clock?

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Originally Posted by vikings

today I have tried another stick of memory ,value product (trascend), and lcd poster stop in det ram: Now I begin to belive that isn't memory problem but main problem, because 3 sticks failed is hard! I would be unlucky!

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If it's what happen to me after a v0907 BIOS corruption, I had to always go into F1 to fix CPU to manual and set RAM to a default spd (ie: 800) and timings to manual and default (ie: 5-5-5-15). Left everything else as is in auto and saved, exited and restarted and it was OK. TRhe I was able to tweak the rest and go on.

It's worth a try anywayz!

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Originally Posted by Newms118

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did? some type of diagnostic or reset after not being properly shut off? thanks

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Perfectly normal for ASUS and others. It mostly has to do with the onboard circut protection kicking in to set up you PSU to match voltag lines befor actually starting up. Since the PC was shut down so suddently it is not in S (suspend mode anymore and cant remember the power state. It is basically a self check for mobo and PSU, and yes, partly to do with recent ASUS since the P5AD2 when FSB climbed over a certain level.

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Originally Posted by Deus Excalibur

Hi everyone, I haven't posted on these boards in quite awhile but now I am overclocking in full swing again

I took my Q6600 G0 from my older P5K-E board and placed it in the new Maximus Formula non-SE I recently purchased. This chip runs 24hrs P95 stable at 3200mhz 1.25v on air (TRUE) with the P5K board. The memory I use tested fine as well. (8x400)

My issue is that on the Maximus I get BSODs during P95. My temps are well within reason, 55C load on the hottest core. The NB runs about 45-47C load.

I lowered the speed to 3000 mhz (9x333) and I still BSOD. This CPU can go up to 3600mhz and run Prime... yet at any speed I eventually encounter a BSOD. The BSOD doesn't specify whether its a driver issue or not.

I'm about to test it at stock but I was wondering if any of you have some good insight at what may be the issue here. I know it is absolutely contained to the motherboard.

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Check you PCI-E freq. I bet its 125 when you boot in to windows, having the same issue as you. Same vid card.

so isnt there anybody who can tell me which advantage u get from the vdrop mod. Why would anybody use that mod???

What program should i use for clocking and memsettings in windows ??

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Originally Posted by icecpu

Would you mind put up your bios setting ?? thanks

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Sure!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Good luck! Please let us know if this gives you a stable OC.

Does anyone know what the 1004 BIOS is supposed to fix and is it an official release?

Thanks
NBK

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Originally Posted by HempHog

Check you PCI-E freq. I bet its 125 when you boot in to windows, having the same issue as you. Same vid card.

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How do you check your PCI-E frequency is windows?

Josh

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Originally Posted by TheScavenger

How do you check your PCI-E frequency is windows?

Josh

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You check it in your bios "PCIE Frequency" 110/115 should be the highest.
After that you can get some issues, or atleast I found to have issues above 115.

Same here. Over 115 I get RAID issues.

Anyone try 1004 yet?

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Originally Posted by Renegade5399

Same here. Over 115 I get RAID issues.

Anyone try 1004 yet?

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I have tried 1004 and am very happy so far.

slight bandwidth increase, and very stable ( for me anyways). Going to push my cpu today and see if I can get a higher clock from 907.


I see still no successful flash to the Rampage bios yet.:shrug:

Grn, how are the dividers on 1004? I'm almost tempted to move away from 0505 again if this new bios is any good for 65nm?

Same question here. Good for 65nm? Also wondering about dividers. Also, where the hell are the BIOS files coming from? ASUS or someone modding the old 0907?

Works fine for me using qx9650! Best bios yet!

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Originally Posted by tiesum

Sure!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Good luck! Please let us know if this gives you a stable OC.

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With this setting it's prime stable, but sometime hang DET DRAM when restart