Please stop posting baseless rumors. It's because of posts like this that people's hopes are stretched too far and then they end up complaining that performance doesn't live up to some imaginary figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
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Please stop posting baseless rumors. It's because of posts like this that people's hopes are stretched too far and then they end up complaining that performance doesn't live up to some imaginary figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
You call it baseless based on what? It comes within a few percentage points of the TITAN while costing significantly less, it outright beats the 780 (not just in price/performance but overall performance as well), I know what it can or can't do on LN2. I'm sure you know all of this too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
This. Heck, many 780 models come clocked out-of-the-box 10% above a Titan performance-wise, and they're usually very close on air at least oc-to-oc. The 780 is what this R9 290X should be compared to, and you can get a 780 for $600-650 + free batman arkham origins pretty readily. You can get an eVGA one with 15% off + the free game on their site now until the 10th with codes they emailed out... making it $561 + arkham, for a superclocked acx-cooler model + $5-10 shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
So it isn't faster than the Titan, "just" overclocks better? Those 1400 MHz are air or LN2?Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
no two chips clock the same. i have a 4850 that clocks to 750 and is rock solid stable. it is on a generic pcb, and from what i gather most 4850's, even with voltage adjustment availible cannot reach such speed. in other cases they can reach this speed, even surpass it. if you get a poor clocker, chances are that you are throttling on the gpu or pwm's, or even dare i say, a badly put together vBios. but one of the biggest impacts on getting a bad clocking chip.... is that it is actually a bad clocking chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
tl;dr all chips clock differently. ymmv.
I had a 670 on 680 pcb w/ windforce 3 cooler (air) that would clock with just the 1.2125v BIOS to 1392mhz core/7180mem for 24/7 stable use, used it at 1372 just to back off a bit (1372--->1392 was causing a huge temperature increase) for many months before selling it. Indeed chips clock differently :). It was whisper-silent too with how low I was able to keep the fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by i found nemo
When I talk about performance I'm talking stock performance. In some cases it pulls ahead of the TITAN nicely, in others the TITAN pulls ahead. I averaged it out and the TITAN is slightly faster, but not by much. I said TITAN was history before averaging the scores, and thought that a good trumping pulled the 290X further ahead than it really did. 1400 MHz is what the card does on LN2.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
Good to know, thx. The 1400 on air would have been wicked, I really would have been surprised if that were true. I guess on air it will do around 1.2 GHz, just like the Titan (with a mod bios of course). But it might scale better since it has more bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
How is it on air for clocking, for the curious crowd chomping at the bit to know? :)
would you say its time to take the 780 (1250/7200) out of my system ? :P
Nope :D
Thanks for the insight, :).
How far does it overclock on air. I can't imagine the performance we have seen being done at 800mhz and looking at the 4 billion triangles, I am guessing a 1000-1050mhz working clock. If that is the case and it only overclocks to 1400 on ln2(a 7970 easily gets to 1600 and occassionally in the 1700mhz range), I am expecting maybe 1100-1150mhz reliable on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
If that's the case, I can imagine gtx 780's that have better cooling to match a 290x with both at max clocks. Particularly the evga Classifieds which can be found for about 600 dollars now using evgas current promotion. This card regularly overclocks to 1300 and I have seen some go up to 1400.
If Nvidia doesn't counter this with an up-clocked gtx 780, it seems super lazy of them.
Because Titan was a total rip-off for one. But anyhow, Nvidia also created the $750 price segment which is also a rip-off...but, AMD can now slide in at just under the over-priced $750 price point and not look bad. Thank you Nvidia! Thank you, thank you for the price hike. As we all remember video cards have not cost this much for a single gpu card since Nvidia and ATI got caught price fixing. I remember the 8800 gtx Ultra or something for $800.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
Nobody ever thought the R9 290x would spank Titan or the 780 (really the same thing), we all expected it to match Nvidia's performance but at a fraction of the cost. Isn't the GPU die for AMD a-lot smaller in comparison to Nvidia's?
And (this is why Nvidia's cards cost more), AMD doesn't spend 3 billion a year (I don't know what Nvidia spends but they act like it is a-lot) on Physx or Cuda so we don't have to pay a premium for those oh so awesome features.
I think that AMD getting all the console contracts was a big hit to Nvidia and Nvidia's gaming involvement. That is a-lot of money...a-lot of money for innovating and marketing new products to consumers.
You have to thank AMD partially for this too. AMD made the 7970 $550 initially and made the gtx 680 look like a value king at the time and made it easy to price gk104 at 500. The current pricing of the gtx 780 is a response to AMD looking like they are a generation behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
Personally I think 650 dollars is a fair price as long as the silicon is big enough to justify it. Not 1 grand however.
I agree with you here.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
In Firestrike the 290X is in line with a 780 OC.
This is false. MSRP of GTX 780 is $650, not $750.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
This is also false.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
Die size is a bit smaller, memory interface is wider.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
And this is also false...Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
So many opinions given as facts...
Like there is between GTX770 and GTX780?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I'm just going to call you an idiot, for quoting a question I asked and turning it into a statement. Also, I was correct that the die size is smaller. Furthermore, I clearly said I don't know how much Nvidia spends. You sir, have not a clue and that is why you consistently posted "FAlSE" with no retort or information to back it up. I'm going to call you pathetic to...since i'm thinking it. Obviously you got some built up aggression in you. Nice to meet you. And, I'm correct in every way and you know it. Wow, yes the memory interface is wider 512 > 384.... you win. :( Oh, and please tell me why are Nvidia's cards more expensive when any one cards performance is matched by AMD at a lesser cost?...since it's not cuda or Physx according to you?....Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Sorry, forgot the EVGA card I got with the water block on it is $750...So, everything I said except @ $650 so everything else I said is still relevant and the price is now right Bob. Wow, you are a picky little thing. False, False, False...what are you a robot?
defstar if you could just now respond to my post.
edit -
inb4 personal attack #2.
I think it is fair also, and I'm going to pay it...twice :)...happily.
where is your post? Give me a link or something if you want me to "respond" to your post. Isn't everything personal when you are "quoting" someone??? Or did you just quote the statement and not the person? Hmmmmm....lets think on this.
Ok, I found it..... So why, after having 3 Sapphire cards that consistently clock horribly...would I buy another. Obviously they are getting low binned chips or their Q.C. is not so top notch. Now, every PowerColor I have bought was awesome. Why do you want me to respond to your post....do you want me to say, yes you are mostly correct with your theory...but ... if company A takes shortcuts with their Q.C. or say makes a deal to get low binned chips for cheap...then it really don't matter how good the card is on paper....it is unfortunately destined to .....be a bad clocker.
Or, maybe I got the only three cards that were bad clockers...still don't change the fact that once I bought another brand I started getting better performing cards...so I'm going with my theory because it is working out a-lot better...for me.
And yes, a-lot of people don't realize how hot the VRMs are getting. That's why I used an arctic Acellero on my 7950 and a Huge piece of copper I milled myself for the VRMs. That is why I moved over to water cooling now so that I can now water-cool my VGA's VRMs.
Personal Attack? who is the one having to defend everything they say? I think I'm the one being attacked here. And if you can't handle a little sarcasm in a post, then there is something stuck up your.
I'm upset with zalbard, i'm not trying to be hostile with you nemo.
I don't think Sapphire are getting a bargain on the chips, but the capacitors and other surface mounted components might not be up to what you're asking of it.
^^, well for the average user a vanilla sapphire is about the right price point.
average users wont torture cards like OC'ers would.
TBH I would like to see what a lighting version of the 290x will do (cherry-picking chips + high end components)
They earn a ton of money with cuda. You forgot about that workstation market.
They reason that Nvidia can get away with charging more than AMD is since people are willing to pay more. Thats it. I'll flat out say it, on average they have better software support. When I say better software support I'm talking more AA modes (SGSSAA, working transparency aa that doesn't come at a massive performance hit, better msaa compatibility), fewer compatibility issues (I've had a lot of issues with artifacts on AMD cards and I'm not talking bad hardware, all known repeatable issues), and less microstutter. Then there is the fact that if you need support you can get a hold of someone on their forums. AMD doesn't respond or monitor their own forums. As where I've gotten quite a bit of info off of Nvidia's forum.
Nvidia has provided me any many other people more consistent support over the years. They have earned a better reputation. I'm sure that the years of TWIMTBP helped too. Marketing works, it seems like AMD has only started recently. Its going to take time.
AMD has come a long way imo. Their gaming evolved program is going to pay off in the long run. I think that Mantle could be huge for AMD. I would still like to see them work on some of their other areas though. Mostly RGSSAA support and better TRSSAA.
Most people aren't willing to buy an AMD card at a similar price to a similar performing Nvidia card and its not hard to see why.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-Vapor-X-7950sQuote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
maybe not bad quality caps pwm vrm ect ect.. but as u can see in that thread most sapphire cards will clock badly because of vrm temps. and no, nothing is stuck up my period. although i did miss my last two months... :p i'm a guy so that is all sarcasm. so i would say sapphire has bad heatsinks on vrm's, not low quality amd gpus.
I think a problem with AMD not being able to charge a premium is the branding itself. This mistake was self inflicted when they killed the ATI brand. ATI back in its hey day was more respected than Nvidia. But AMD killed the brand to put everything under the AMD brand. I think this might have been a mistake because the AMD brand itself, particularly when they killed it was generally disrespected.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
The AMD brand for close to a decade has been all about value and lower performance. The spectacular failure of the fx-9590 and the subsequent price drops just show that AMD cannot carry the premium brand flag. Particularly the giant step it tried to make with that mistake.
Nvidia has done alot better to foster a community too, particularly EVGA. I don't think there is any other videocard hardware maker with as big a community and supported as EVGA. I have never owned an EVGA card, but I have stumbled across the forum. And looking at it, its a pretty big community. I haven't seen a strictly xfx or sapphire forum.
any indications on thermals or acoustics? compared to the 7970 stock card?
Anyone want to make a $200 deposit? http://www.centrecom.com.au/gigabyte...ld-4-pre-order
Russian Roulette FTW!
Limit of one per customer, lol.
This is pretty low.
$200 deposit, and if they jack the price and you say no they keep $50 of it. Yeah.... how about NO lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
if it was ncix, sure. but no.
Any news about compute performance? I wonder if they had to cut down on the compute features to beef up the gaming performance. It has been speculated, but no confirmation yet.
Also wondering about their Firepro lineup, what's gonna get released. I really want a workstation card, since nvidias pro cards are priced ridiculously. Even worse than Titan.
you know.... Im wondering if the binning of the chip has as much to do with the overclocking limit of the GPU as say... the solder connection between it, and the board. one weak link... one solder ball that did not flow as well, or a dry solder, stressed joint....
I worked as an repair engineer at a big international company and worked with motherboard sized circuit boards that has up to 16 layers (normal motherboards has 4-6).
Bad solder balls generally dont really impact the working performance gradually but more like a on/off switch. It either works or not.
I can also say that bad solderballs is by far the most common problems on modern circuit boards.
16 layers? that sounds like it would have to be both "very specific" and very complex to design.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiske
Server and Blade motherboard..Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
Almost, blades for mobile telecommunications system racks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
Anyone know if these Cards support OpenGL 4.1 and higher?
I keep seeing the 7950's list OpenGL 3.2 support.
NVIDIA support 4.4 from the 4xxx onwards.
The KronosGroup also just confirmed that AMD does not conform to their standards for OpenGL at the moment.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ps813785df.png
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hd7970/50 support opengl 4.3 since 13.2 driverQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiske
Depends on what you need...Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
In general, Nvidia has better OpenGL support.
True, although I also need good OpenCL performance. Which is where AMD seems to excel, especially in my price range and in OS X.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Since the new r9 cards are on the horizon I'm holding off buying anything at the moment, but stocks seem to be disappearing quickly. I hope I don't get stuck where I can't get what I need, especially for a good while.
You know, I really thought the MSRP of the 780 was $750 (because of the EVGA water-block edition) this whole time...and I really thought the R9 290x would be $600. I...I'm, just...I'm going to have a hard time choosing between the 780 and R9 if...the R9 don't over-clock. If AMD already pushed it to it's limits and there is no overclock headroom....it better be as fast as the Titan for $700. Or I will buy a 780 for $750 (because I want the water block) and overclock it to Titan levels. I truly only want the best deal I can get, I owe neither AMD or Nvidia my allegiance. And, I really like the LightBoost 2D. I can kind of do the same thing with my Samsung monitor (Frame Sequential 3D mode) and an AMD card...but its a $600 monitor (I got a C grade refurb. for $300) and only Samsung monitors can do it. Any LightBoost monitor is only like $200.
Why will you use OsX and OpenCL .. you ask the moon there .. OSx is absolutely not made for professional use.... OpenCL make his road on professionnal computing system / software since a good times, but forget OSx for it... Not because of OpenCL, but because of OSx, and relation with softwares developpers .. half of what you need is closed to Apple... if one day they change their politics we will maybe be able to do something professional for them..Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
I'll use it because the software I use is on OSX, and takes advantage of OpenCL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
Apple and AMD are also working closely for the next Mac Pro to bring dual workstation cards and support to their platform. If that's the case my system will last longer and AMD is the way for me to go.
If AMD can't deliver I'll go to NVIDIA where any of their Quadro and GTX6xxx cards are supported natively in OSX, and further with drivers from NVIDIA directly.
I'm convinced, AMD and Nvidia are price fixing just like ATI and Nvidia did. Staggering releases, Nvidia ups the price, AMD responds with...oh now we need more $ for our flagship card to...... and price fixing. On a mature process to. They've been making 28nm GPU for going on two years now.....its getting more expensive to manufacture cards at 28nm now....must be so many defective cards coming out huh? And it is just a revamp of an existing card with a wider memory bus.
You know what? I'm going to buy the 7990 for $610 and a water block for ~$140. The only thing the R9's $700 price tag did was make a card that I guarantee cost 1.5x more $ for AMD to manufacture...look 1.5x better and I guarantee it will perform 1.5x better. Well, I guess I waited all this time for the 7990's price to drop. Heh, I feel better already.
Better yet, buy used. Some people are bound to sell theirs due to release of R9.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
supply and demand, and costs associated with initial line switch and programming of a short run.
plus bf4 limited edition package etc.
price will be $650 w/o bf4. for near 7990 w/o crossfire perf.
in the new year we'll see nvidia slower 780GTX price to ~500's and the 290X will be in the ~450 shortly after. when large production runs of the line can occur.
Yeah, $650 I can do if EK prices the water block at ~$110 like the 7970's. It won't be anywhere near 7990 ...you know... It will be like Titan up against 7990. There is a-lot of power to be harnessed in crossfire...but your only going to see it in AAA titles. Ah, I've tried sli and Crossfire twice and immediately sent them back within the first week (goddamn mechanical keyboards are awesome...sorry I just got it). I'm done waiting. I sold my 7950 over three months ago hoping the R9 woulld be here by the end of September (I got $289 for a used Powercolor 7950)...3 months is a long.LONG. LONG time to be using intel's HD 4000. I want to push BF4 at a consistent 120 fps so I can use Samsusngs frame sequential mode to eliminate motion blur (same thing as LightBoost 2D) with Ultra High settings 1080p of course since its a 3D monitor feature. I know the R9 will come close but it the end it just won't "consistently" push 120fps. On the other hand, a 7990 will, and if it falls short I can throw another 7970 in the box filling all of the Gene V's PCIE 3.0 slots and certainly average above 120fps on any server...roughly costing $1300 with water blocks. But, tri-fire scaling I think falls flat like a logarithm graph.... But two R9s (~$1500 with water blocks) would scale well like crossfire does and I bet an R9 Crossfire system would end up performing as good as if not better than a tri-fire 7970 setup. Or, I can just keep the R9s on air and $1300 for the set. I don't want to spend $1300 though, and certainly if i'm not taking advantage of my water loop for cooling. So many decisions...I wish they made crossfire combos where the slave card is just a bare bones GPU with no video outputs....and/or cards with a water block instead of air or just a bare card with no cooling so I could configure the cards the way I want without paying for things I don't need or will never use. Just like LED back-lit keyboards should have multi-color led so you can choose your own color. Even getting the keyboard exactly as you want is impossible....We need fiber-optic interconnects already...out with the copper and in with the light, then we will see some really fast single gpu cards. Well, I put $700 in my pay pal account and I put two 7970s in my shopping cart, but I didn't push the check-out button. I will wait and see what this R9 can do and how it scales in crossfire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg83
Pre order your R9 290X for the low low price of 12 grand.
Lol, seems legit.
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=57699
Well, sorry to be a bust but....I just ordered two new MSI 7970s from newegg for $576 and I get two $20 mail in rebates (but only1 per-house). Two EK water blocks is $214 so... I feel confident I will get better performance than one R9...and I can always disable one card this way in the case of Negative returns in crossfire scaling. It has been a pleasure but I don't want to be a victim of price-fixing this year. Being water cooled (more importantly the VRMs being water cooled) I will have absolutely no heat issues like I had previously with my air cooled 6970s. Hope you guys enjoy your R9s when they are release...I will probably end up skipping the R9 completely and wait for the 22nm gpu release from AMD.:up:
That's a very nice price, and sound reasoning, I hope you enjoy your new cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
I believe the next jump is to 20nm, which may be out next year. Me personally I'm waiting for die shrink. Can't buy anything as I'm a REDACTED who is working and not getting paid ATM.
I delete my post too , it have nothing to do with this topic, saying it is out of topic is not even right. lets keep politic in a politic discussion.
Deleted. Not the place for this :).
Yeah... let's not get politics in here. NOT a good road to go down, and has nothing to do with the topic.
Good point. I'll edit my post out just so it doesn't attract extra chatter.
An app called Strobelight came out this summer that allows 2D/3D Lightboost with AMD cards. I've been using it with an Asus VG248QE for a few months and it works very well with a pair of 7970s.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefStar
Not bad for a 2600k
2600K@5 GHz
I heard of the program but thought it was for Nvidia users with non-light boost monitors. I know for a monitor to do it, it has to have a strobing back-light. Thank you though...I will check it out... Probably at blur busters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elfear
Oh, it probably allows AMD cards to work on Nvidia LightBoost monitors....ahhhhh, nice!
GPU clocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by PedantOne
Aw! 8 and 6 pin power? No go for my system then.
Guess I'll have to look at the 280's, otherwise I might pick up a 7xxx series card as cheap as possible.
Still interested in TDP information though.
This is good that the 290 is 512 bits too.
AFAIK you can run any 8 pin power card with a 6 pin, just limited overclocking. Those two extra pins are only ground wires, so it isn't like they actually provide power, and many power supplies just tie those two back into the 6 pin wires anyway. My 7950 has 8 and 6, but my PSU only has two 6 pin and I'm still overclocked (just maybe not as far as I could with the last 2 pins).Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
I'd go for the 7xxx now rather than 280 later if I were you. Get a nice MSI Lightning it will still be cheaper than the 280 at launch, I bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
I don't over clock anymore, especially not with the system in my signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
It also runs the power through the logic/motherboard, and people have recorded that the 7970 does draw extra power through the 8 pin. Despite the two ports only rated for 225w.
I'm super tempted by current 7xxx cards, although I think I'll wait just a little bit longer for TDP ratings on the 290's, and 280's. If they're close to 225W, I'll certainly get one and an 6-8pin adapter, if the drivers are also there for me.
I do wonder how much of a difference the 7xxx and 280's will be though.
you allways got 8pin connectors in the box with the gpu, you just wired them to 2 "Ide" standard 4pin ( like for the fan and other ) from your PSU. Should be the same with the 290.
The cables go through my logic/motherboard, not the PSU. Only rated to supply a max of 225w through the cables. Some folks use a 6-8 pin adaptor, some have success, some have issues, few end up with a dead system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
What capacity is your power supply? If it is at least 550W and of good quality, you will be ok for even the 290X I believe. You do realize the pin connectors is the least of your concerns, because almost every high end Radeon comes with a Molex to 8 pin adapter?Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
EDIT: I saw your comments on the adapter, I had no problems with it, as long as you got a good power supply.
It's a 980w, but there are no Molex connections or extra connections. The PCIe power cables plug into the motherboard/logic board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
Like I said, it's the system in my signature. The PSU, and power system is proprietary unfortunately.
They're rated for 225W through the motherboard, anymore and it could blow the board.
Some folks use a 6-8 pin adaptor, some have success, some have issues, few end up with a dead system.
I'll see what the TDP ratings are, and if it's not too far above 225W, I might take a chance depending on performance, and driver availability.
Mac? That's a problem :p:
I'd be tempted to get a soldering iron out and rewire the power supply a little bit :D
Can't be bothered, especially risking the loss of my warranty. :p:
I'll wait a bit, and see how these cards pan out, and prices of course. Selling my current GTX 660 which is okay, and I'd like some more oomph. :D
What games are you playing on the Mac mostly?Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
PS: The 290 will probably draw under 225W, I'd keep a close eye on that one.
I've over 85 games on Steam for Mac alone, and doesn't include other services. Lately finished off Borderlands 2( finally), currently playing Serious Sam 3, and Civ V. After which I'm going to start Metro Last Light, Bioshock Infinite, and Max Payne 3, also Tomb Raider when it arrives. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
I keep going back to The Witcher 2, as it's just great.
I prefer to play OS X titles, but I have no qualms with running others in Wine, such as the Crysis series, MechWarrior Online, and others..
http://www.gdm.or.jp/voices/2013/100...ices_1024x768#Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
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Not so sure about that, I don't think they cut enough off it
The cards I've seen have 2x 6pins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
Any NDAs lift this week or do we gotta wait another week :/
tomorrow reviews for 280x/270x
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Originally Posted by tbone8ty
Something soon it seems.
Sooo... Peel away the sticker that says Radeon R9 280X and you see Radeon HD 7970 below it. Older drivers also recognise it as a 7970.
I'm pretty sure that's what I said several pages back, matches an overclocked GTX 780, yet I got told that I'm what's wrong with this thread :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
280x/270x/260x
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/t...eat-asus-xfx/3
http://techreport.com/review/25466/a...graphics-cards
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...260x,3635.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...0x-review.html
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-r9-2...cs-card-review
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-xfx-...cs-card-review
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...260x-reviews/1
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...-270x-r7-260x/
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4889...n=hardwareinfo
http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-amd-...s-card-review/
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-radeon-r9...s-card-review/
http://www.techspot.com/review/722-r...-270x-r7-260x/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...R7-260X-Review
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...chmarks,1.html
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-R...Tested/?page=1
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/..._card_review/1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R7_260X/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/AMD-Ra...-280X-1091477/
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2013/amds_ra..._260x_im_test/
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php...x-im-test.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/908-...s-hd-7000.html
For me, the R280X is a VGA useless for the current market, one fail...
Man has this move bewildered people. I was reading some of the comments at engadget and most people think this is a new series. Mantle + new naming series makes people think this isn't a rebrand.
the reason...? What is GTX770? GTX680+higher clocks...For company is the smart choice, because is cheaper to do 2 new highend cards than all segment. They dont need change everything with new architecture.
So, the NDA for 290X ends a week from now ?
Can't come soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by vario
Well this is a let down. Have to wait longer for the real cards people want.
i am happy with these results that as a 7970 ge lightning owner i will not need an upgrade until next generation. thank you nvidia and ati for saving my money.
And ours...
AMD Radeon R9 280X, R9 270X & R7 260X ? Review
This is just the low and midrange 280x ( who is basically a 7970ghz ).Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
So basically, we have 100% rebadged parts but the lower end ones which are a Retail launch from an OEM part. You do not get free games with the new Radeon series which you do on the 7xxx, and besides, they will probabily be more expensive than nearly identical 7xxx counterparts just because they're 2 years newer. Nothing to see here.
worst then 290, 290x, 780 and Titan, par with 280x and better then 770 and others, i think it stands at mid-highQuote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
This was expected, as have done Nvidia .. The card have been right placed against competitive cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by zir_blazer
The 280x is launched at 299$ ( Thaiti XT2 ( even if they succeed to push some more performance, i dont know how).. the 270x is at 199$ MSRP ( 7870 bieffed up )... Still waiting about the 290x who is the real new card..