yes i'm using thermalright 120 extreme push /pull 60c on load ambient temp is 20cQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
personnaly i dont like goin over 1.6v for 24/7 1.58v will get me to 4.15 anything more need 1.6+
yes i'm using thermalright 120 extreme push /pull 60c on load ambient temp is 20cQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
personnaly i dont like goin over 1.6v for 24/7 1.58v will get me to 4.15 anything more need 1.6+
do i presume your stated vcore is P95 capable?
Thanks....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
The newb setting is "auto" lol.... Ive had my P35-T2R for a couple of months now and Ive yet to play with those #s, but at the same time Ive never had a quadcore till a few days ago.... I dont test stability but my QX did 4850mhz spi 1M and almost 5ghz cpu-valid on my 24/7 water.... 5780mhz ln2:D
But unfortunately my board is very buggy wiht the QX, a failed oc attemp will make it almost unbootable... and cpuvtt undervolts from 1.6v down to 1.43v:( , but with my E6600 itll only undervolt to 1.58v:confused: thats measured with a multi...
Like I said in the other thread
" Having a DFI board is like having a hot girlfriend thats a total b1tch" ....:D
yup but i dont test 8 hours lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
which TR HR-09 will fit on this board? From the looks, a HR-09U Type 2 should fit, but Thermalright says Type 3 on thir website for the P35 board, which uses the same heatsink (minus the heatpipe) as X38 does, could use advice, thanks
the type 3 does not fit (tried it), get the type 2 (only other possibility).
On another note: 2 of my ram sticks died today for no apparent reason, C1 error on both of them individually. Fortunately they are corsair ram and have a lifetime warranty :\ but it has messed with my overclock (moving to only 2 gigs) and I'm now stuck down to 3.681 :(
Why not?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
WTF is going on with DFI?!?! They don't know how to build boards now!?!? :shocked:
Are this DFI X38 boards, rams killers also?!?!
I have 1 DFI P35-T2R that killed 5 kits of memory! 1 kit GSKill PC-8500 and 4 kits of TeamGroup PC-8500. Even without any OC on my CPU or MEMS (last 2 kits).
My DFI P35 going to RMA now! I hope to get a new one without any of this problems, or never buy another DFI board! :mad:
Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
i don't like to do P95 since i do not fold or play any video games that put a huge demand on the cpu...my apps are easy duty so i just set the vcore to complete wPrime 1024M stability bench which is like 5-10 minutes of P95...why waste electrical energy if there is no need....if you do more than an hour, i think it is overkill...BUT, HEY, everyone has their own ideas on "how to!";)
OH!..i now understand!...LOL:DQuote:
Originally Posted by luihed
my qx9650 on the IP35 Pro had the same results as to stable max FSB of 460...EXCEPT, the IP35 Pro board was FAR easier to make my quad work at 4400 mhz....dynamics really change when you go from 2 cores to balancing 4 cores to operate in unison.Quote:
Ive had my P35-T2R for a couple of months now and Ive yet to play with those #s, but at the same time Ive never had a quadcore till a few days ago.... I dont test stability but my QX did 4850mhz spi 1M and almost 5ghz cpu-valid on my 24/7 water.... 5780mhz ln2:D
But unfortunately my board is very buggy wiht the QX, a failed oc attemp will make it almost unbootable... and cpuvtt undervolts from 1.6v down to 1.43v:( , but with my E6600 itll only undervolt to 1.58v:confused: thats measured with a multi...
nice overclock on LN2:up:..can you run any benches at that frequency?
been noticing that!:DQuote:
" Having a DFI board is like having a hot girlfriend thats a total b1tch" ....:D
Thanks bro...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Not even close at the moment but thats my mhz target to run spi32M... Ive put in almost 10hrs benching with ln2 and Ive only been above 5700mhz maybe 20sec lol..... Tough to do anything when your mobo doesnt work, also this is the first time for me benching with high multi/low fsb/mem dividers and Im still getting a feel for settings.... plus the fact that this cpu acts totally diff than C2....
Ill probably take me another 20+hrs of ln2 time to get the max out of this cpu. Its always good to leave some mhz to be had later so you always have a reason to bench.... cos to me as soon as I get the max out of a cpu then its pretty much useless, and that usually means spending more money to max something else.... hope you get what I mean....
i just tried some of EVA's memory settings and i am now at ddr-1003 on 2gb per stick (4g's total) of GSkill PC6400 (ddr-800) memory...this board has promise when it comes to fine tuning memory for ultimate performance.
we think alike when i do play a game if it crashes then i will test it moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
if cpu was runnin hot i would try to find out what was minimum votage required but the highest i seen cpu go is 45-50c in everyday apps n games
i know the cpu will do 4.3 62c load
but soon when it gets colder i will see what is the limit of the the cpu but for 24/7 i see no need for more than 4.0 for me i think its a waste of electricity @ 4.0 though lol except for gaming:D
4 hours more than enough in my opinion but hey everyone has a choice
but if i was running @ the edge of my cpu's capabilities i would test longer
i have a backup of everything so ...
Im not much of a gamer and I am in the wrong thread but this is my 24/7 setting on straight watercooling, never had to reboot or any sign of instability... Not too bad using a waterblock design for either AXP or S478 :D * SG is off by 15c so should be 24c...
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10062/normal_sg.jpg
i have a backup called the "Hotkey";)...i've been toying with the memory settings at 4400 mhz..i think i just about squeezed the last ounce of performance out of it...i'm running wPrime 1024M bench as i type this to see if i can upset the apple cart..just finished successfully!...good news!...maybe i can do more:) ...i will replace the OS since i have pinged this one over an extender period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
that is what i get; about 15C offQuote:
Originally Posted by luihed
Quote:
Originally Posted by luihed
Change the offset in the PC Health menu. After that the temperature will track fairly close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Some quick 1hr Prime95 stability sessions just to find out how my E6850 L720A489 does on DFI LP LT X38-T2R.
4005Mhz at 1.472v (1.3875v + 104.1% bios set)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...ime95_load.png
4107Mhz at 1.584v (1.4875v + 103.77%)
Accidently overwrote the prime95 loaded screenshot when saving the post load idle one :(
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...tload_idle.png
I tried my TeamXtreme 667 2x1 on this board. It doesn't seem to go too well.
Won't post with 2 sticks.It posts with 1 stick but not 2. Kicked up the vdimm to no success.
Crucials work fine 2x1.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
My undersatnding is that the Teams don't work so well with DFI x38 right now. I also hear the D9GKX modules from any manufacturer are not playing nice with this board. That may change with bios updates.
i tested everythng with TG 1200 which are for sure GKX, without any problem....
crucial tracer are fine....not so nice as eva2000's one...but i can arrive at DDR2-1281 pi32M pass with fine tning of memory parameter and voltage (2.45V)
So how is everyone cooling the pwm area? since im still testing the board its currently on a bench table with a fan over it but once inside a case how are we suppose to cool this area?
I am certain I read TG modules, especially those with GKX ICs, and others with the same, were problematic and someone had put in a request to one of the DFI gurus (Oskar Wu?) to address the issue in the bios. It was more than one person having problems. It may have been on the DFI Club site, not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapFTP
i'm idling 32c on nb n pwm never went higher than 36c on both just got some new 40mm fans for pwm i'll see if it made a difference soonQuote:
Originally Posted by lazy
if you are referring to TeamGroup memory, i have two 1gb sticks of ddr-1000 which work just fine in this DFI board.Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
i am hoping this gets resolved on future bios releases...i am a 1000 points behind what the IP35 Pro board will allow for 3D2001 bench...i faced the same going from abit's AB9 QuadGT (P965x) over to their P35 chipset...actually, it got better once i flashed the Pro's boot block...i see DFI has that switch incorporated in their autoexec.bat file....now, it's up to them to improve on (tweak) the performance output.
FIRST IMAGE IS THE IP35 PRO
SECOND IMAGE IS THE DFI LT X38 T2R
got everest bandwidth and latency comparisons between the 2 systems ? I'm finding from testing Gigabyte X38-DQ6 and DFI X38 LT that X38 by default seems to have loosened up some latencies to allow higher memory clocks but they've included in their respective bioses, options to tighten then back up. For DFI X38 those options seem to be these ones marked with *Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
It could be the case with most X38 boards compared to P35 ?
Quote:
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST *
- Enhance Addressing: FAST *
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled *
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive *
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 8
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive *
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive *
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5 *
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO *
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto *
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto *
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO *
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO *
wow, really appreciate that post eva! thanks
so the clock-fine delay - does it alter even performance?
read http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5226 lots of info.. clock fine delay improves memory clocks so in a way yes better performance in memory bandwidth intensive apps through higher memory clocks..
i already have adjusted all of those that you have asteriks!...even using PL=6.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
it has become apparent that the DFI board will keep you busy with tweak options while the IP35 Pro board is made for the guy who likes the easy way!;)
that is kinda apparent, but I wish you could achieve higher performance at the same clocks with the DFI - did you doublecheck all mem subtimings and tryed tightening the options that eva stressed out? I really am considering this board for some quad-fun, but since Xfire aint gonna happen, and if I can have higher performance on a different board (maybe even clock higher) ... that why should I get the DFI? *sigh* the memories of the X38 hype that was ... is X38=DDR3 true then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
What do you guys think is suitable voltage on the nb and vtt ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
my memory is lower end since it was an 8 gig kit (PC6400) for $265...STILL...i have it at DDR-1003 and i can go to DDR-1050(ish) but still i cannot get inside the 1000 point difference with 3d2001 score from the pro board.
that said, this is still an upgrade for me since it has less Vdroop, 8 phase digital PWM power and 2 PCIe 16x working slots that allow me to put my 8x Areca raid card in and WORK properly!...some people can not see any difference in speed but i saw a slight increase in burst speed (630 to 660 mb/sec) in HDTach on the Areca card working between 4x slot or 16x slot (8x actual speed).
my assessment is like yours...the X38 was meant (designed) to do better with DDR3 memory...that is where the real gains are to be gotten.
Hello! Does this motherboard run stable without any fan on northbridge chipset? I want to buy Thermalright U120E and I know that it can be only in one position. What do you all think about thin fan like Sunon KDE1207PTV3 on chipset? Will TRUE stand in any position on motherboard?
i have the TRUE mounted and i am using a 38mm thick fan on the heatsink...it is mounted on the NB side and so, you won't need any fan mounted on the NB since that fan is way strong enough to cool that plus the TRUE.
did anyone test 400+ FSB and running ahhd in AHCI mode on the onboard (ICH9R) controller? thanks
Anyone here tried to OC with 4 x 1gb or 2 x 2gb is better to achieve higher clocks?
R.
i think this board offers better opportunity to clock 4 x 1gb sticks higher with all the DRAM settings in the bios.
Thanks! I thought that also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I can't wait for the system to arrive so I can start to burn it and give some feedback for you guys.
For now I'm on the 3rd page of this Thread! Lot's of reading to do till New Year.
seriusly i would really love to see some q6600 or yorkies oc in action on this board...i think eva has dominate the whole memory clocking thing
Thats great Eva, thanks it will be easier for the new comers to read all.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
What are your best results for 4Gb (4 x 1GB) Ballistix Tracer 8500? Have you tried that yet?
4x1gig 1200mhz is no problem with this board @ 5-5-5-15 but i like 5-4-4-15 @ lower clock n lower voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
the pic is sticks
I can tell you that you will be at the mercy of the FSB wall of the Quad CPU. I have tried 1 Q6600 and 1 x3210, both G0. The Q6600 has a FSB wall of 480 and the x3210 is around 485, depending on how much vcore you want to apply. Increasing CPU PLL and NB vcore doesn't do much with quads except increase the stress on the board. I can get the Q6600 to run around 450FSB with the 9x multi but it is not prime95 stable. Hell, it isn't even 32M Pi stable. But I am not done trying yet. These are just my initial findings. I am sure the QX9650 will work better than the 2 I mentioned but I certainly am not going to spend $1000 to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by intothefantasy
Too bad the vcore only goes to 1.60
I like an option for more..
How did you set the jumper for that Q6600 G0 on the dfi x38? 1333 or 1066fsb?Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
It does. It's called CPU VID Special Add.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
what do you use to measure the temps for those areas?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Also what is a good fan to place on the nb?
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...minvoltage.JPG
limits for my Tracer8500....not like Eva, but quite satisfied
:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I let the CPU didctate it (default).
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...555-2.3-CF.JPG
for those who like GKX's on this mobo and 2x3850 Crossfire (stock freq and cooling)
;)
nice to see there's a PL auto-adjusting on bank A and B....
Oh.. Cool. Thanks. I'll have to check cpuz next time.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
4x1GB takes ages to memtest so it's one of the last things I intend to do... but will get around to it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
i use everest for tempsQuote:
Originally Posted by lazy
usind an older type 60mm fan cause its thin but i bought a stronger 60mm fan for the nb and 2 40mm fans for pwm
ps i had to adjust the heatpipe on nb heatsink to make room for the fan it does bend easily but better when its off the board
on a special note i got my 2 xtra bios chips workin good even flashed 1 to test if its good not bad for 8$ a chip:) :)
just gotta remember to clear cmos after installin a new chip lol
runin on spare bios chip now i'm ready for those beta bioses:D
thank you Eva2000 for your memory tweaks
so far does anyone watercooled the northbridge? got any nb block that suitable for this board?
i did some experimenting and added an aluminium fin to pwm heatsink screwed into pwm heatsink ,result was 8c+ :rofl: as soon as i took it of temp was back to normal
i guess dfi guys designed heatsink right sukin the heat away from pwm
i added a fan in back of backplate blowin fresh air on pwm heatsink n no change in temp:shrug: i guess 33c is as low as its gonna get
im havening trouble with my board sometimes it wont boot into windows and says that my raid array inst there and sometimes the cd drives disappear from the bios or randomly in windows is this fixed in a bios update or do i have a setting messed up
are you overclocking?...how about updating your signature with your latest specs.
tell us your memory settings and voltages along with your cpu overclock, NB, SB and cpu vtt bios settings.
fixed my sig i have 2 ide burners from nec/sony and i hate how the ide is on the jmicron but i cant figure it out
you can raise the SB voltage along with NB voltage to see if that has an impact...the SB will definitely affect Raid and the Intel controller along with CD drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
second, i would do, if the voltage increase didn't help, is change out sata cables to make sure that one or both are not malfunctioning....same for the cd drive.
i raised the sb to the 3rd notch its 1.9xxV i think that fixed it hopefully
and dont buy micron revE 4gb kits they are terrible and going back to frys
First overclocking tests with my board and my Q6600:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7...benanntdq8.jpg
CPU Vcore @stock
CPU VTT: 1,3V
VCore NB: 1,35V (Bios Setting)
CPU cooled by 2 Utrasilent 800RPM fans - NB cooled by a 60mm fan, PWM area not cooled.
hi aehmkei, nice result for stock Vcpu. How is the TR IFX performing on that quad? When you run Prime, can you show also Coretemp please?
btw, where did you get your board? I have a hard time finding one in DE ... thanks
I got one board from the first shipment at 07.12.07 from HPM-Computer.
Next X38 Shipment from DFI to Europe should be first or second week in january.
With 3,2Ghz Coretemp shows with Prime running
56°,56°,50°,56°
CPU and the IFX14 are lapped.
I'm thinking about changing the 800upm fans against 1200upm fans, but 56° are not too bad, considering an ultrasilent setup.
Still PWM and NB temps seem to be very high, no clue why.
how abt a fan blowing the pwm area? btw the nb fan fit any 80mm fan?
i have a 60mm on the back of my I/O panel (on the outside) that is velcroed there and pushes fresh air in over the PWM, regardless i still have high PWM temps from my high volts + quad core. everest reads PWM @ 45C right now
Nobody with some info on how high i can set the nb and vtt voltage ?
It seems that i need to set the nb voltage pretty high to clock my E2180 i'm at 1,5v right now to get 310 x 10 with less only 305 x 10 is possible...
Apart from this, anyone a good hint on which watercooler i should get for nb ?
Will the MCW60 fit ? Need something with good flow since my gfx is in the same loop aswell, maybe i will cool pwm too.
Feel sorry for you if that much NB voltage is needed. That's what I use with a Q6600 at 450x8.Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
The MCW60 fits the NB fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
I've been using 1.52v NB for FSB 465.... 1.6v VTT always
Why always. :confused: No need to use more voltage anywhere then what's required.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
anything above 450 requires this much for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Q6600 @ 450x8. Good 24/7 voltages. Nothing stressed or pushed. Memory can be run faster or with tighter timings at the expense of increased voltages.
Two screenshots of Prime, one running and one stopped. Only way to show the 8x multiplier as C1E is enabled.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_a_s.jpg
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_b_s.jpg
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...0/3600_c_s.jpg
Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU Clock.................................450 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12
All Precharge to Act......................5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................5
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 445pd
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 512ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 267ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 67
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 370
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 356
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 345
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 779
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
My initial testing on DFI X38 LT
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...2milsandra.jpg
Cant believe but I just ordered the board :D hope they send it to me soon and then I'll reply with my results.
HF guy's :)
does this board has any vdrop problem?
Is this board going to be compatible with the Yorkfields and Wolfdales, with their .5 multipliers?
And why does it seem like everyone is using the multiplier of 8 when benching with a cpu capable of 9 multiplier? I know to get higher fsb, but I was able to do 450x9 with a e6850(was a loaner, waiting for another q6600), which gave me superior scores. My ram that I used wasn't the best so I didn't do to great with a divider without having to loosen timings.
if you "disable" the vdroop control in the bios and set the bios vcore at minus 0.02 below what you think that you need for the cpu, in whatever loading condition, it will hold the vcore at that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by intothefantasy
ie., i set 1.50v in the bios...in windows, it reads 1.52v for idle conditions...under load, the vcore remains at 1.52v...weird, but it works fine otherwise!;)
it should but i am not sure if the first release bios will support the point '5' multi's...there is no one with one of those with this board at this forum, i do lieve.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
the main reason to raise the FSB to high levels is to get high memory bandwidth, which is not really needed any longer...attaining the highest memory bandwidth is for the days of yester year, IMO....with these new processors with large L2 caches, there is not as great need to attain the high system memory bandwidth in performing your everyday apps...TRUE, benches will see the benefit but you really won't notice it yourself...maybe you save a couple of milli-seconds in completing some work but that is about it...i believe in attaining the highest cpu horespower while sacrificing some memory bandwidth to get the cpu to a higher overclock.
I don't understand this vdroop concept. I mean, why drop the voltage when loading, when it needs more. I mean it would be more logical to drop when idle, can anyone explain this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
here read this : http://www.xcpus.com/forums/intel/14...epository.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
I pulled the trigger on 4 gigs of 6400 ballistix for 50 bucks a pop to replace my (partially dead) dominator, hopefully I can replicate some of the great speeds its been reaching on this board.
as for the subject of fsb, when running the same clocks at different FSB (ie 400x9 = 450x8) i find the my computer runs MUCH faster when using the 450x8 so i really think that there is something to be said for high FSB
intel designed their specs around vdroop so not to spike the processor with above spec voltage...so...DFI, ASUS and other mobo makers got around the vdroop by adding a circuit that cuts it out...most overclockers do not want any droop AT ALL!Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
I did the same thing only with some 8500 tracers. Bad thing is my board finally took a crap yesterday :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
When I adjusted voltages, BIOS and SmartGuardian would report 2.03v on everything even though I knew that was wrong. A couple reboots would clear it eventially, but then my FAN RPMs were being detected as 5700+ for 1500RPM fans and 65700 for 3000RPM fans.
Then it died. When I reboot it attempts to post for 1 second, then shuts off and tries again. It doesn't even show a real post code, just a couple lines on the first number led, a dot between the two leds, and nothing in the second led.
Course, this boards been acting funny since the first week I got it. If I could get a response out of MotherboardPro, I'd have a new board by now :down:
I guess I'll have to brave another DFI RMA and hope I don't get back a crushed northbridge.:eek:
Now I gotta figure out what I'm going to do with these new Tracers and Stacker 830 :(
well you wont have a crushed NB because of the IHS, but I hope you get a new board back :)
We have been trying to contact you regarding your RMA. We can not reach you by phone or email. We are sending another board out to you overnight, and hope this gets your machine up and running again as soon as possible. We do still need to reach you, so if you will check your emails, we would appreciate it. We only want to get this resolved as soon as possible and try to keep you as a happy customer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark79
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Originally Posted by motherboardpro
VERY NICE!...that is great service!...thanks for taking the extra effort to communicate to "Dark79".
that is awesome!! I hope your new board rocks Dark79:up: wish mine was getting here next day. mine should be here thursday, along with a QX-9650:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
that is why I use MBP. they will do whatever it takes to satisfy a customer. :up:
now thats service
i wished there was a motherboardpro in canada:(
they will ship to you if you ask nice..:rofl: :ROTF: , seriously contact them and they will make it happen.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
PLEASE contact us regarding this order. We shipped another board overnight out to you, we REALLY need to get in touch with you. Please call us or send us your correct number. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark79
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Originally Posted by jimmyz
i know they would
customs fees would be a killer
thats why i got mine from ncix "the best etailer in canada"
EDIT: MotherboardPro went the extra mile and wasn't satisfied until I was satisfied. Consider this issue resolved. Thanks again MBP!
Yeah, I know. But I just like to point that incident out since it's going on 3 months that I've been without that board and still waiting for replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Keep in mind it's taken 2 weeks, 3 e-mails, 1 negative Resellerrating review, and 2 negative MBP posts before I got this level of service. Newegg will give you the same service if you do the same to them :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Not to say that I'm not grateful for the overnighted board which was sent without a deposit or before they got my board back. I just wish I could have gotten this issues resolved when I contacted them about it 2 weeks ago. And it probably would have been good if I would have known about it before I had someone take the board over to mail it off to DFI RMA.... :brick:
Oh well. Plenty of people have had good experiences with them and that's great. I just don't happen to be one of them. In any case, this is way off topic and MBP (the user and the site) can contact me via e-mail or PM.
Once I get my RMA from DFI I'll be able to contribute more. But I have a couple questions for the more experienced people on here:
1. For those achieving 450+FSB do you have AHCI disabled? Seems it let me get a higher clock when I turned it off.
2. Maybe it's just my RAM (or the board itself), but I found 4x1GB overclocking much easier than 2x1GB overclocking.
Crossfire with the new 7.12's was very fast with this board at least from my limited testing. Very glad I can clock both cards now in CCC. :up:
1) in scratchin my head here... remind me again what AHCI is? (advance host controller interface?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark79
2) When I went from 4x1gb corsair to 2 x 1gb my OC became extremely unstable , I ended up having to lower my FSB by 18 and it still isn't that stable, im getting random crashes and video driver errors. Before my 2 sticks died nothing like that was happening... :(
as I've said before, I have high hopes that my new ram OTW will allow me to take it to the next level. my goal is 468 x 8 and 10000+ ram read on everest. Then I hope we will get a new BIOS and i can proceed to higher clocks and i can proceed to lower volts.
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Originally Posted by Dark79
I just read that reveiw , you said " 12/31 no response to e-mail"... but you posted it on sunday the 30th? they were probably closed. and since you got not only a response, but a board shipped today I would say you should fix that.
also from your reveiw you said that you were issued a dfi rma right away but refused it? smooth move:down: why not get it taken care of then?
Re-read the review. On "12/31 No reponse to date" means that as of 12/31 I had not received a reply for the 12/22 request for return RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyz
If you're going to bash me, please do so in PM, I've already sent you one with more info on this issue.
i think this ordeal is finished...just to give you a little insight on returns...i had to bug clubit.com for my refund...they first said over the phone with me that a credit was issued on 12/16 (it was 12/20 when i called)...i checked with the CC company and they said, NO credit!...finally, i had to send clubit.com an email to ask for a re-submission of the CC credit...they replied back later that day to say the credit was issued as of that day, 12/20...finally got satisfaction but it took a phone call and then an email.
bash you? easy big boy !!:rolleyes: I was pointing out a fact. the post was made yesterday at 9pm. yesterday was sunday the 30th. today they sent you a board overnight. so you were wrong. let's move on.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark79
Due to the holiday, we were closed most of last week. We were actually scheduled to be closed today and tomorrow also. We worked Saturday and Sunday to try and get caught up. When DFI gets your old board back, we will have them keep it and you keep the board we sent. This had nothing to do with your post on resellerratings or xtremesystems. We take care of all of our customers 110%. But due to the holiday, it has made it extremely difficult. Also, not being able to contact you, we felt we had to post in the forum to try and get you to contact us to straighten this mess up as soon as possible.
The correct address to send the board back is
DFI RMA Dept
48008 Fremont Blvd
Fremont, CA. 94538
PLEASE do not refuse the shipment. We made a minimal amount of profit on this order to begin with and it cost us $90 to have this shipped out to you. If you refuse it, it is going to cost us even more in the shipping back. DFI keeps your board and you keep our board.
Please let us know if there is anything else possible we can do for you.
i love being in england and still not being able to get this over here :(
hey:), sometimes europe and UK get lucky and sometimes we get lucky over here with the first shipment...it was our turn!:D
i am VERY disappointed in this board...i am having a ton of problems making the board work with Vista 32 OEM disk...i get constant freezes during setup or in windows desktop...i am figuring this board and bios is trash!...works fine with XP SP2 but forget vista OEM, at least for me!
i've taken it down to basics: one VC, one memory stick, either single or two drives in raid 0 (all the same results), disabled both LAN ports and HD Audio.
who has a vista OEM disk with problems, or no problems...would like to hear your experiences.
the other problem is the 2nd network adapter has disappeared again.
i've bounced between the two bioses with no help...the 2nd bios release works a tiny bit better than the official release with getting into vista desktop...AGAIN...windows XP no problems at all.
this board is going to be history if i can't resolve this issue with the help of you guys.
i have nothing but a ton of problems with this DFI board...i really miss my NO HASSLE Abit IP35 Pro board...same vista OEM disk worked perfectly on the Pro board either in a single drive configuration or Raid 0 with two drives.