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4.5 Ghz - 1.12 Vcore SP32M + wPrime 1024
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2675846
http://www.firegoon.com/u/9213i.jpg
3770K 3229C572
very good IMC
http://www.abload.de/thumb/cfr280018vmxuyy.png
i am fighting for 2900 32m
http://www.abload.de/thumb/snaphsot0012lax9h.png
prime 4,5GHz @ 1,16V
http://www.abload.de/thumb/snaphsot00275jja8.png
5GHz 32m boot 1,4V, can run @ 1,37V 2/2
3570K 3221C048
Prime about the same, 4,5GHz @ 1,16V:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/snaphsot0022y2uoj.png
IMC stable for 24/7 DDR3-2400 easy, nothing further tested atm.
All with watercooling.
Heres a mild overclock of my 3770k 4.7ghz 1.136v stable on prime 95 6 hours gonna see if i can push it to 5Ghz
batch: 3226c459 anyone else have this batch?
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/tpwilko/47.png
very nice chip,surely u can reach 5 ghz...what mobo?
@tpwilko: What have you tested vcore with? Or just vcore to boot? I like Cinebench for a rough estimate, or vcore to boot and run spi 32m at 5ghz.
EDIT: Sorry, haven't slept well and I missed the prime95 run... :p Congrats! Hope it will continue to climb up once pushed properly and on cold. :D
...and how's the imc?
based on my experience with ivy's i would say that chip can do 5 ghz prime stable in 1.28-1.35 range.Awaiting updates from tpwilko :D
Ive had the chip at 5ghz on 1.26v and it booted up into windows no problem gonna do some further testing later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Am using the maximus V formula motherboard
Ive also done a run with cinebench passed no problems and also no WHEA Errors. Not tested the imc yet got dominator gt 2133Mhz ram and dont know how far that will go..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivanlabrie
Depending on the timings, voltage and revision, ymmv. Some of those may go real high mhz wise, some may do uber tight timings. Depends, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by tpwilko
My 3700k survived the delidding surgery despite my scoring of the PCB with my X-Acto knife and exposing some yellow metal.
Die Liquid Pro, IHS MX-4, resealed with Alumina thermal bonding compound.
Highest difference 21c drop, lowest difference 15c drop, after 1 hour of Prime95.
Before:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...psdc9d043f.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...psdc9d043f.jpg
After:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps393f2f66.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps393f2f66.jpg
Not afraid of the big bad wolf anymore ;)...I would have never run IBT before with a highly overclocked 3770k on air cooling!
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps547b885a.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps547b885a.jpg
Not even 70c on mid-high range air on a 4.8ghz 3770k on max settings! :up:
3231B442
Decent Vcore on h20 and good imc
Full banks 4X2 tight mem sets
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2933
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3000+ imc
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Different L3231B415, delidded, liquid pro, resealed with alumina.
Weird weak IMC - will not boot 2133 - highest boot 1866 on P67 and Z68.
Inferior air cooler (Prolimatech Armageddon) - would have definitely been under 80c with Venoumous-X, and low 70's with NH-D14 or H80i.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...pse4d714f9.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...pse4d714f9.png
Just received a 3240C354, have not seen this yet will test later after the others.
Some quick tests with 3231B442
what a chip, stock vccsa and vccio, vdimm 1.65v
http://i.imgur.com/5HAkeCB.jpg
I tried 4x4 and it does not pass with exact settings as 2x4, also 55 at 2933, but I did not try any additional vdimm, think this might be a good one for cold:)
^also no waza on the above runs so it might need a bit more vcore with the added stress.
Even so loud 4/8 @ 1.256v 2800 looks v good mate :up:
Agreed, I hope it is good one for LN2 especially since I just killed my good chip last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Agreed, awesome batch so far. I'll get more:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Batch 3240C292 maybe here, U can help me a little about mine problem...
Thank's in advance!
I have quoted from mine other mesage:
"Hi all!
I have ASRock Z77 Extreme 6, now using 2x2Gb G.Skill PI series, official are 2200Mhz/7.10.10.28/1,65Vdram, as seen in cpu-z windows.
http://s19.postimage.org/4ju7qype7/System.jpg
http://s19.postimage.org/ev6kjmh3j/System_Idle.jpg
From as I know, those mems are capable of more than 2400-2600Mhz with relaxed latencies, but on mine unit, doesn't want more than 2200Mhz, rarely boot into 2400Mhz, with 8 or 9 CL, 2 from 5 tryies, on AUTO SPD or manual set SPD....
Once I saw booted at 2400Mhz with CL7 at 1,74Vdram, but just one time...
I tryied with more voltage, even at Vdram, even also at Cpu, VTT, Vccsa, etc, no succees for booting, always restarts with cpu at 3500Mhz and default ram of 1333Mhz.
Cpu looks promising, as I get full stability for 4800Mhz at 1,24 vcore in bios on LLC1, 1,248-1,255 showed by cpuZ in full load on Prime large FFT , LinX, etc.
Could be a bad (poor) IMC on that chip?
Can U advice me for some settings to reach more than 2200Mhz with that MB wich officialy is capable of 2800Mhz for ram?
I bought those ram too:
http://s19.postimage.org/k800bhudr/DSCN6732.jpg
and not even at 2400Mhz, no booting, tried also XMP1,3 (official specs), on XMP or manual SPD setting, nothing...
On other computers, ram was achieved 2900+ Mhz, and at me, not even 2400...
What is wrong?"
EDIT:
I have decided to lower 100Mhz and 40mVolts, and use 24/7 like here:
http://s19.postimage.org/ubtble0i7/During.jpg
http://s19.postimage.org/p1ocu3g9b/Done.jpg
I had once a 3570k that was limited at 2500Mhz by IMC, but at leat it did 2400, 100% stable.
You should try the cpu+mem on another motheboard , Asus recomended to see what happens.
Z77 Extreme6 has validation on hwbot at 2700+Mhz dual channel so it's hard to say if the motheboard it's defect.
You have some 10-15% chances to have a very poor cpu on IMC.
Have you tryed one module, single channel? Any difference?
Tryed also on Asus P8-Z77-V-Pro Thunderbolt, same situation.
Also tested in one stick, same...
On asus ,I cannot adjust multiplier above 35, but under, it works after updaing last version of bios , available on site...
Is a 3770K cpu...
DjLeco
try "internal PLL overvoltage" enable
Thank you, I will try.
Is possible to be disabled in bios, not checked...
Also, other voltages?
Vtt=?
Vpch=?
Vccsa=?
Hello.
Anyone have some info about an 3770k Malay Batch: L221B054
3227C383 sucks!
Microcenter has a new batch now the 3232A610, I saw it when I was picking up the Auria 27" IPS 2560x1440 monitor the other day.
That is a interesting batch number, may have to look into that.
Got a few today.Quote:
Originally Posted by LagunaX
All did 2800+ imc, but 1.4V+ 5Ghz 4C/8T h20 on MVE. A little less on Asrock board.
Newer batches seem to have better IMC than first ones,but worse cores...
I've ordered a 3224B106 anyone test it out yet?
It looks mine CPU have a poor IMC, trying aything, no more than 2400Mhz on memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjLeco
But looks ok for 5000Mhz 4C/8T for Spi 32Mb.
http://s19.postimage.org/3ny8if95b/Done.jpg
That is strange time in sp32 bro...you have 1100 Ram frecuencies with tight timings and 5.0 GhzQuote:
Originally Posted by DjLeco
look my chip and timing 1200 MHz (1:12) @ 10-12-11-31
http://www.firegoon.com/u/wpq4fp.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2663928
From my experience on two motheboards including Gene V with IB cpu, IMC has a drop in performance with CAS7 above 2000Mhz.
I mean, i scored better with 8-10-8 than with 7-10-7 and it's a big hit , 6-7s or more. At 5ghz.
^ typical PSC bug
TWCL<=CL
on Asus it defaults TWCL to 8 so unless you run TWCL at 7 no point in running CL at 7 better to leave it at 8 & 8.
^ typical PSC bug
TWCL<=CL
on Asus it defaults TWCL to 8 so unless you run TWCL at 7 no point in running CL at 7 better to leave it at 8 & 8.
Intel i5-3570k SROPM 4.7GHz @ 1.185V (BIOS)
Noctua NH-C14
Gigabye Z77X-UD3H
Patriot Viper Extreme 8Gb 2133MHz 10-11-11-28 1T 1.55V
Gigabyte HD 7950 1135/5500MHz @ 1.25V
Intel 520 240GB
Asus VG236HE 120Hz
NZXT Lexa
http://i.imgur.com/YATKVEu.jpg
I am also Prime stable at 4.8GHz but it requires 1.245V and the temps are about 10c higher. Should I just keep it at 4.7GHz, or would you guys run it at 4.8? Mind you when I play BF3 or other games the temps are in low to mid 60s at 4.7 and high 60s to low 70s at 4.8GHz @ 1.245V. From what I have seen in these forums this is a pretty decent chip and if I had a better case and maybe a H100\110 I could potentially go even higher.
Temps are fine for 4.8ghz, you'll have a Haswell in a year or two anyways.
nice one
Anyone test any D batches yet?
Just received a 3228D116 testing to follow.
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps92701cce.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...psb843dbc3.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7fd6a072.jpg
3237B786
4.7 stable 1.325v (testing for less) 4.5 stable 1.225V.
Better cooling on the way.
I have not seen a D batch as of yet, now I am curious as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Here is the 4.8GHz at 1.245V Prime SS.
http://i.imgur.com/jV17JAU.jpg?1
3243B670 anyone seen that batch before?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tranceaddict
Solid chip. I assume you didn't remove the IHS and replace the TIM? Either way, you are stable at 4.8 with 1.24v so temps in Prime are irrelevant and are safe either way.
I have the worst 3570K in history though, built 3 of the same rig (2 for friends, 1 for me) and mine takes 1.4v for 4.6GHz and IMC is no good past 2050MHz :lol:
No, I did not de-lid the chip. In gaming the temps do not go over 70C, and that is the highest workload the chip sees day to day. Sorry to hear about your 3570K, that's a really high voltage for 4.6GHz. At that same frequency I was Prime stable at only 1.145V.Quote:
Originally Posted by tool_462
3229A792
Not good CPU ...awesome IMC!...Not delidded yet.
batch #: 3238B560
5ghz 32M 1.304 4c 4t
vccio 1.14
vccsa 1.10
http://i.imgur.com/FqgaB2q.png
the IMC on this one is the jack of all trades, 2600c8 with tight timings, and it can still do 3066 32M in dual channel.
Real nice chip there, certainly one of the better IMCs I have seen.
Hey guys when I look at CPU-Z it shows my voltage as 1.248. I have it set at 1.35 in the bios. Is this normal or am I missing a setting? Also on load with P95 it drops down like 1.2?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
What is your LLC (Load Line Calibration) set at? Try High or Extreme.
I had it on Regular. Put it to Extreme and it shows 1.248 and goes to 1.192 under load.
Is there a different program other than cpuz that will show accurate voltage? Or am I missing something in the BIOS?
CPU-Z voltage will be as accurate as anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
Are you setting the voltage to Manual or Offset?
I don't know how the MVExtreme BIOS differs from the MVGene but I can't imagine too much...so I should be able to help.
Its on manual.
When I put TurboV EVO to 1.185 it shows 1.296 vCore.
So stupid, and I still put BIOS to 1.3 and it doesnt "stick"
Testing Imc all air, all default vcore on MVG
http://www.firegoon.com/u/jsj.jpg
rig specks
3770k (diddled+liquid pro) h60 (upgrading to h100i) soon
gigabyte z77ud5 mobo
corsair vengeance 1600mhz cas9 mem
gigabyte windforse x3 670 gpu
corsair ax850 watt psu
Im at 4.5ghz fully stable but i need 1.32v bios to keep stability with (extreme llc)
if i lower by 0.010 i get bsods my max temp 82c (only with fans at low)
I have tried going to 4.6ghz but even with 1.4v bios its not stable am i doing something wrong or have i hit the max clock for my cpu seems like i got a poooo cpu by your results
thanks guys
It looks like you have solid gear though you may have just an average chip. My current 3770K can do 5G at 1.37 solid on water with the lid on. What is your VCCSA and CPU PLL voltage set at?
the only volts i have touched itQuote:
Originally Posted by flesheatinvirus
cpu v core 1.33(bios)
pll volts 1.60 (bios)
everything else is auto
hwmonitor has vcc at 3.36v
hope that's what your wanting not sure how to find what it is to be honest :)
3570K, Batch 3243D924
http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3891b58b.png
the Thread still dead?
3570K Batch L247B677 4.5Ghz with 1.088V :up:
http://abload.de/thumb/2ace2jol6.jpg
Just an update. As the temperatures rose here to high 20C, I had to up the Vcore by 0.025V to be fully stable. Interestingly, prime was still stable but BF3 started to crash, and in Event Viewer I isolated the cause to the CPU. This just goes to show that even though it's prime stable, it might not be 100% system stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by tranceaddict
How is your IMC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace.
I have a similar batch, L247B700, it's good with 1.170v loaded (DMM) for 4.5g. But seems to need a lot of vtt (1.141) just for 1300mhz memory @ CAS11, Cmd rate @2T.
What is your CPU PLL voltage? I've read plenty of stories where the CPU PLL voltage has been set too high and actually limited maximum core speed. Try values of 1.65v and 1.75v, one of those may see you able to increase your CPU clock and decrease your vcore, 1.32v just for 4.5GHz is a lot for a IB. Its probably also worth your time to delid that 3770k, clean off the stock TIM underneath and take off the black rubbery sealant stuff. Doing that should see your load temps decreasing a good 10c, maybe more, and may also be another avenue to explore in order to lower your vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber5
i5 3750k 3234C407 Anyone know if this week is good?
Currently testing a i5 3570k, seems like its a pretty good chip as it will do 4.5GHz @ 1.12v or less. Will report back with screens after more testing.
I bought a new i7 3770k, Batch 3227B508. I'm using voltage offset. The voltage with 42x multi is almost the same as with 45x, 1,32V.
Is this normal ? The fact that my motherboard is a MIVG-Z, Z68 and not a Z77 can have something to do about it ?. Or it's just an averege chip with bad voltage regulation ?
1.32v is pretty high for 22nm really, what are your load temps like and have you set a relatively high LLC then tried lowering vcore? The fact you are using a Z68 won't make much difference either.
At 4.5ghz my hottest core tops 95?C. I know it's too much, like my vcore is. I use 50% LLC and a offset vcore of 0,005. What makes me think that I have a bad board is that the Vcore is always the same, independent of the multiplyer, with the same offset of 0,005. Always 1,32V, 1,35V.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I found out that with the 2600K it?s the same on bought my boards. Voltage is always 1,32, when LLC is at 50% and offset 0,005, independent of the multyplyer. Faulty Bios ??
Use fixed vcore instead and try 1.2v, it would also likely serve you well to delid your 3770k, time and again people have shown they shave off at least 10c by delidding, applying your own TIM then popping the IHS back on top. The issue with the 3770k and 3570k is that the black sealant doesn't allow the IHS to properly make contact with the core, which is what gives rise to the horrible load temps the instant you try to OC. For reference my 3570k which I have delidded, cleaned off the black sealant, used some Arctic MX4 then just sat the IHS back on top of the CPU now has a max temp of 67c on its hottest core fully loaded with boinc @ 4.5GHz 1.12v. For me going faster than that requires quite a voltage bump, even 1.175v doesn't allow 4.7GHz to even be marginally stable so given IBs tendency to heat up easily 4.5GHz has to do for me, not that 4.5GHz is anything to sniff at you aren't really going to see the difference between 4.5GHz and 4.8GHz or even 5GHz in 99% of cases.
What method did you use ? The Razor or the Hammer one ? Everybody talk about Liquid Coloboratory pro. What I have here is chilly factor 3 Tim, I think it will do, at least as an experiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I used the "gentlemens touch", which is the razor method with a slight twist. I don't pry the IHS off I just stick with the thin razor and cut around, it only takes a few mins longer and minimises the possibility of damage. For sake of experiments I decided to increase vcore to 1.2v on my delidded 3570k and shoot for 4.7GHz again, all seems to be well right now, but temps are about 10c higher.
4.5GHz > 1.12v > max core temp 67c with the CPU fully loaded running BOINC
4.7GHz > 1.22v > max core temp about 78c with the CPU fully loaded running BOINC
The question for me (and this will apply to you as well) is do you run the extra voltage for +200MHz? The only real reason for doing so would be for epeen as real world applications you aren't going to see the benefit of that +200MHz. If you are really hellbent on max speed then as I will likely do investing in the services of a NZXT Kraken X40 would be a wise move, although for a cooler it is pretty expensive really.
I'm looking for a great clocking chip on air or water. has to be do atleast 5.0ghz and must be 3770k anyone willing to sell or help me find it?
I like that. The special Ket-Touch. As he wields that cut-throat razor about, threatening every IHS out there that tries to refuse any attempt to be prized away from it's position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I've never been comfortable with prying the IHS off once one side has been cut through like a lot of people seem to do.. CPUs are very delicate things now and need to be treated with a little more care. Using the "gentlemens touch" I'm now 4-0 :D Not a single fatality so far, I've delidded 2 AMD CPUs and 2 intel CPUs, AMD CPUs are definitely trickier to do, one slip on the CPUs I done and I could of shaved off a SMD.
Could you please let me know with the AMD cpu, what model did you "delid" because I'm curious if it's the current FX model and what type of cpu heatsink paste is used?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I know what Intel uses but there's been next to no info on what AMD uses. Just so scrupulous in knowing the facts relating to this.
I haven't delidded any of the BD or PD CPUs, last AMD CPU I delidded was a Phenom 2 chip I think, hadn't even had the CPU long and the paste had completely given up the ghost even idle the CPU would hit 100c+. After a delidding everything was back to normal though. If it helps any AMD CPU I delidded looked to use the same TIM intel CPUs do, a light grey coloured compound.
I'm sad, unfortunately killed my 3770K. In the process of delid, the blade touched only slightly on the pcb and it was enough. The splinter was so small that I didn't saw it immediately.But with the following behavior soon I saw that something was wrong. He died an hour later. I will buy black thermal selicone and try warranty. At least I'll try.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Got a Costa Rica 3244D195 3770k at the weekend and its a pig.
Needs 1.325vcore just to get 4.4Mhz stable. I was pushing for x45 but gave up at 1.425. Atleast the temperatures werent too crazy. I have high ambient here of 29-30deg c and I can still run IBT at 1.325vcore for high 80s/low 90s (Noctua D14). I feel the chip would be quite happy at any vcore under 1.5.
I marvel at these sub 1.2vcore 3770k s hitting 4.6mhz...
Coincidently I ended up at a vcore similar to what I was running on my 4.6mhz 2500k, but Ivy is using approx a third of the power (80s W vs 120W).
Sorry it happened to you. I still haven't gone that way of using a Razor blade to delid (because I'm rather useless at trying to do it, plus I hate sharp things). I will try the hammer tap soon. Just that it's hard to delid something that had cost me $379.00AUD a few months back.Quote:
Originally Posted by sepol
Just worried in damaging it and then going through with an attempted Warranty swap. I sure hope yours goes through because I get the feeling I'll be joining you in line with an RMA.
Using a razor blade really isn't hard, you just need to take your time and make sure when cutting the blade remains flat.
This is disgusting - you kill hardware by physical damaging it and then try to make all other Intel customers pay for your lack of skill by making fraud rma - no comment on your spirit, honesty and responsibilty further needed, this speaks for itself. If you can?t afford fail, don?t try
Don;t worry about intel man,they have plenty of cash floating around.In the end,what is the difference between killing a cpu with volts and physical damage?None,they both don't work
Ever thought about the reason why K cpu is more expensive and offers, apart from unlocked multi for OC, less features, Alex? The loss at OC is already part of the price there, but that people kill cpus with lack of skill at physical abuse is not covered, and such things happened a lot at mem manufacturers as well. Result is that rma guidelines are tougher for normal client today as an example - I agree that Intel has enough cash, even too much :D - but in the end all pay for such stuff like rmas which produce costs at shops, distributors and so on, I think Intel is by far not biggest part of this - result is, to keep margin, rising prices as well btw, this is simple economy
Hmm,yea man you are right in some points.But think about this,how many people that use a pc are enthusiasts?How many enthusiasts delide cpu's?IF you think in perspective,these damages are just 0.001% of intel losses....
You are right, this is small part - and I am not the sheriff for Intel, who kill oc with k cpus by locking cheap stuff for kids :D - still I think this shows big lack of responsibility and honesty, and I wonder if people doing that are aware of legal consequences if Intel wants to set an example, or the shop, after uncovering the fraud. And on mems, this was also only small part, result is in fact as mentioned above, less generous rma policy. Enough of that, my 0,02$ are done :D
Yea man,but who has time to uncover a fraud like this and what for?It should imply to delide cpu again,take close look,then track down the shop,than the individual,etc etc....
:confused: No comments...Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
While I don't disagree with any of this if a manufacturer offers a enthusiast range they should allow such things as being able to remove a cooler to use better TIM or cover the product if its killed with volts, after all we pay a premium so a manufacturer offering such things like I've mentioned isn't really asking a lot. If somebody kills something though being ham fisted though.. well that really is their fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
I don?t criticize the fact that IHS is removed, and agree on this being covered by a warranty plan like protection plan that might come would be ok, this would be an appropriate solution. But as long as physical damage is not covered nor tolerated by Intel warranty, reapplying ihs and covering up the damage done, with silicon, and afterwards sending to rma is a simple act of fraud - shoplifting via rma :D
I agree, if you fail deliding your CPU, be man enough to live with the consequences.
For the sake of nostalgia, my best 3570k:
http://abload.de/thumb/x50_kappexeuny.png
Delided and cooled by Phanteks PH-TC14PE (Air). Best of about 60 CPUs.
Could you please stop calling me names ? You already call me dishonest, now you're calling me a thief... you must be in rage with something don't you ? I know I should have been quiet, but that don't give you the right to judge me.Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
I don?t judge you, I do not know you, so how could I? I simply name the act of rma-ing a disguised cpu with physical damage what it is - simply not correct and even against the law, not only against warranty terms
Damn, here I was thinking that AMD took the high road when it came to NOT using plain CHEAP horrible paste as their heat transfer mechanism. I now give up, why do they all stick together when offering terrible solutions for attaching IHS's to their cpu's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Thank you Ket for opening my ignorant eyes towards this now "normal" situation amongst all CPU manufacturers. Now let me go drown in some tequila .......for tonight.
Be man and take a nice keyring
http://www.firegoon.com/u/tkf64.jpg
I do not know if I will laugh or I will cry.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
Just laugh!, life is more than one simple Ivyb1tch bro!
I'm afraid a single bottle might not be enough once you read what I type next.. delidded a couple A64 CPUs and these ones had some sort of yellowish waxy-like TIM under the hood... CPU makers should just do the right thing and not fix the IHS to the CPU, let the user pick their TIM of choice to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by docwhom