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You can disable them, and then it will idle at turbo-speed, but you will get a bit more power-usage and a few 'C more heat at idle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacha
I'm not sure how big the power-usage is in reality, but I've been getting 32w vs 8w at @4.5Ghz 1.27, both according to real-temp.
Anyone considered crossflashing the Deluxe to the Extreme? Appears the hardware is the exact same. Only difference I see is the extra PCIe slot in the Extreme, and it has a slightly different Marvell SATA controller.
Yeah, I'm measuring the peak. LinX with AVX and HT off does give higher load vcore than prime95.Quote:
Originally Posted by xEnergie
I think current draw plays a huge factor in the LLC amount.
Ok thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
What are the idling temps for you at 1.6GHz and 4.5GHz?
BTW, how much time does the chip stay at full speed when it's not stressed anymore?
Is there no stability issue with constant changes in freq and voltage like this?
Does the chip goes back to lower voltage at 1.6GHz?
Guessing some hundred ms before freq. drops.
Havent had stability issues with 5ghz oc and idle at 1,6mhz (manual volt setting).
Chip doesnt drop volt unless you use offset mode for voltage.
Just 2-3 degrees different, and all my case-fans spins at ~60% that can add to it, but temp-difference is not a big deal. I'm more concern to know about the real different in power-usage, and mentioned temp because it indicates power-usage, but the temp in not a big deal by itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacha
Cores are very responsive, they jump up and down real-time. I'm using manual vCore, with LLC=Ultra, and the it's 1.288v/1.272v (Idle/Load). No stability issue at all.
If you want low voltage at idle, then you have to use oftest mode, but I personally haven't used it, and don't know much about it.
I´m trying to find linx with latest linpack libraries, but no luck, just found 0.6.4 that already had. Can you please tell me were to find it??
Thanks
Just download this and replace linpack_xeon32.exe and linpack_xeon64.exe.
http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...pack-download/
I made a wrong buy and ended up with a I7-2600 instead of the I7-2600K. This CPU seems to be locked at 42 multiplier, is there anyway to get around this yet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by illuminati-hwt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Thank you guys, that's interesting.
I'm not into calibrated vdroop for idling, "normal" vcore all the time is fine for me.
However, wouldn't suitable vcore for full freq be a little too much for 1.6GHz?
I never thought much about if it would impact anything or not if voltage is high at low freq.
Thanks a lot, are those located in benchmark/linpack/linpack_xeon32.exe and linpack_xeon64.exe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gr1mR34p3r
Thanks again
@poke, i just hope whatever i throw at it doesn't decide that it needs to add more vcore during load. just wondering, what's to stop it from giving 1.5+ :shocked: hopefully, whatever i do, doesn't decide it needs that much juice :P
@ stoned, nice memory clocks there. I too have oc'd my ram and got 25 linx runs off at 2133 9.10.9.28 1t 1.55v. this coming from 1600 6.8.6.24 sticks.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6474/2133linx.jpg
If you are using Intel Burn Test, and it has a folder called LinDada, then 2 folders called x86 and x64, the .exe in each of those is simply called "linpack32" and "linpack64". Do I rename the linpack_xeon32.exe to linpack32 and replace it like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gr1mR34p3r
Quote:
Originally Posted by xEnergie
It isn't gonna get much higher than LinX. At least I haven't seen anything higher... Don't worry about it.
If LinX is peaking at 1.368, it's not gonna get anywhere near 1.4v - let alone 1.5.
Flashed to 1305 Bios, any recommended settings for my configuration? Quick LinX test
Ati Overclock: Manual
BLCK: 100.0
Turbo Ratio: Ratio by all Cores
CPU Ratio: 46
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Auto
Memory Frequency: DDR3-1600MHz (8-8-8-24)
EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Extreme
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
Current Capability = 100%
CPU Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1.65
Vccsa: Auto
Vccio: Auto
PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto
http://i51.tinypic.com/xqmbdd.jpg
You should keep the DRAM Voltage: 1.50v for 24/7 to stay on safe side. That's what Intel recommends. Or at least keep it under 1.55v.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren__F1
Your RAM-performance is probably an overkill anyways, and it's better to go down on RAM speed/voltage to keep the CPU/IMC on the safe side.
At least until we know more about the long term effect of high vDIMM.
And these:
Vccsa: Auto
Vccio: Auto
PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
I type inn my own values manually, mostly default values, because some of them can change sometimes, maybe a bit too much, on Auto. But that's not a big deal anyways.
My Ram is Rated 1.65V, they are these kits hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Yeah, but you IMC is rated 1.5v.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren__F1
The RAM may survive those voltages, but too high vDIMM will puts too much stress on your CPU/IMC. Intel recommends 1.5v for 24/7, and max 1.575 for these CPUs.
got the same McLaren F1, they work fine at 1.6-1.625, but not at 1.5... at least not at 1600mhz... don't see an issue with even running 1.7Vdimm... we have seen similar warnings with I7... and not many 1.5 kits around...
1.7v is too much, way too much. Your CPU/IMC may survive for a long time, but we don't know it. It may also die on you in a couple of months, or somehow degrade. Who knows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
If RAM was a bottleneck I could understand why you would want to take a risk, but SB has introduces such a huge RAM-improvement, that even a 1333MHz would be good enough for 24/7 usage, and all desktop applications.
So why should we push it to potentially dangerous territory when you can't have any real benefit for 24/7 use?
So be it, I'll RMA the CPU... I don't care if it dies... If it dies from 1.65Vdimm or slightly higher, then that's a flaw in my opinion... Most here that own high speed rams ain't gonna downclock to run at 1.5ish voltages... nor will they buy 1.5Vdimms for that reason either... and believe me it will not die as quick as that... a while back it was too high FSB term voltages, then Vcore spikes, then I7 with low voltage rams and now this...
Just set the RAM to 1.55V and ran a quick Linx test
http://i54.tinypic.com/wwamvr.png
Try a HCI memtest mate, mine crapped out when playing Battlefield, Linx though was perfectly fine... if you can run these at 1.55, good for you... mine need a tad more
lol nice desktop ;) haha i wouldnt show some of the things on there.
If you don't care, then that's OK. Everybody can kill a CPU easily, but it's more fun to find a healthy and good 24/7 OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
That looks much better, see what you get get with 1.55v. Lesson up timings as much you can, it won't have much effect on performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren__F1
Will try tonight mate:up:, i never ran HCI memtest before:yawn:. ive seen some screenshots where the user runs more than 2+? Is that how you run the program? Forgive my noobness:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
No. There probably never will be either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic
I just got a BSOD 124 error, Should i add more Vcore or does something else needs to be adjusted?
Ati Overclock: Manual
BLCK: 100.0
Turbo Ratio: Ratio by all Cores
CPU Ratio: 46
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Auto
Memory Frequency: DDR3-1600MHz (8-8-8-24)
EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Extreme
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
Current Capability = 100%
CPU Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1.55
Vccsa: Auto
Vccio: Auto
PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto
If you know your memory is deffinately stable, increase vcore to say 1.35v and retest.
Hey guys, anyone know why my video card would be running on 8x mode? The specs say this board has 3*16x pcie slots.
My card is installed in the middle slot to move it away from the cpu to keep the temps down.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6527/gpuzn.jpg
No board in the Asus P8P67 family has more than one electrical x16 PCIe slot...just the top one.Quote:
Originally Posted by xEnergie
The first PCIe x16 slot runs at x16 speed if no card is in the second slot. If a card is in the second x16 PCIe slot both the first and second x16 PCIe slots run at x8 speed even if there is no card in the first slot. The third x16 PCIe slot runs at either x4 or x1 speed depending on the BIOS setting.
^ gotcha, hmm I may just stay in this config as the temps are justified. Only lose about 5% between the two speeds correct?
oops sorry wrong post :D
Linx seems to be preferred over prime95, why is this?
One Word: AVX ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chestnut
I usually run it with 3-4 x 512 instances. And then one with all unused memory ( this for a 4gb setup ) till it uses all the available memory (you can check this in task manager )Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren__F1
Let it run till 200-300%, if it doesn't error out rams are good to go... good luck :up:
Only the newest libraries, if you havent updated the LinX libraries then Prime95 stresses more.Quote:
Originally Posted by chestnut
Got a few more questions about this which I hope someone might be able to explain to me.
Specs: P8P67 stadard, I7-2600, Bios 1305
1) When I disable EPU in the bios it is enabled again the next time I enter the bios. Any idea why?
2) When using the AI Suite 2 auto tune feature (extreme) it detects the highest speed I can run which seems to be 105.1 x 42 and the Bios I have set the turbo ratio to 42 which is max.
But when start up prime95 or something the multiplier only goes to 39 not 42 as it should.
3) Anyway to change the speed of the PWR fan seems to be running a max constantly which is a bit to loud.
Anyone got Hypers work on these P8P67 boards yet? Still having lot of problems with my dom gt's, hard times getting these stable @ 2133 CL9, even 1866 CL7 needs +1,75v..
I hope this will be fixed in future bios updates..
had the GTX2 working on the Dlx board at 2133Mhz but with 7-8-7-24 1T TRFC 88 1.72Vdimm.
On the Sabretooth and the pro it doesn't even want to do one loop of SuperpiPi 2M lol... (haven't tried the latest 1305 though)
Anyone got Hypers work on these P8P67 boards yet? Still having lot of problems with my g.skill perfect storm, hard times getting these stable @ 2133 CL8, even 1866 CL7 needs +1,70v..
I hope this will be fixed in future bios updates..
remember that this memory is in the asus QVL! 2133 cl8 g.skill perfect storm!
Anyone know what driver I may have missed?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7748/unknownmn.jpg
bluetooth :)Quote:
Anyone know what driver I may have missed?
Batch #L041B702
Quick 6hr Blend test
http://i52.tinypic.com/16biwc0.png
Ok, so I have a weird issue. I am stable at 5Ghz at 1.44v vcore, tested on Intel Burn test and 1 hour OCCT. I have LLC set to extreme and the voltage does not drop under heavy load for example with OCCT, however, if I run DVDFab, the vcore drops to 1.42v and then BSOD with an error of 124, so more voltage right? I know it's not stable at 1.42v, but as I stated before, it's set at 1.44v and on everything else it doesn't drop in voltage, just when I run DVDFab. I could up the voltage to compensate for this, but it seems to be an odd issue and I hate run the extra voltage just for one program. Any reason it would drop during DVDFab and not under a stress program like OCCT?
Thx mate, turned out I missed out on it while downloading the drivers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by koc
It's due to LLC. It only applies the voltage to heavy loads, when you run a "light load" (1 thread linx for example) it doesn't apply voltage but the frequency goes up. Therefore, it causes instability. It's been discussed by Poke a few pages back. What others have done is to use an offset voltage with LLC set to regular. Or, you can simply use a higher vcore to compensate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
Damn, was afraid it would be something like that. Well, I have the weekend to mess with it. I may try the offset method and hope that will stabilize it. Thanks for the quick reply.
Hello,
does anyone know how to downgrade from BIOS 1305?
EZ Flash and Bupdater refuse to do so - EZ Flash states the message :
"image outdated ".
Any workaround ? Before I ve been using AFUDOS engineering version for some time , but now...
Thanks for the inputs !!!! :yepp:
no downgrade
***Official*** ASUS P67/H67 BIOS Updates
Updated - 02/17/2011 * I will start answering PMs shortly, sorry, oral surgery ended in infection and another trip.
We have new official UEFI releases for the P8P67 Standard/Pro/EVO/Deluxe/Sabertooth boards today. You will not be able to roll back to an older UEFI after this update as it contains new firmware and B3 stepping compatibility
OK, thanks i ve had that feeling that something major has been changed :)
Which Asus board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by famich
I'm on EVO and I can't downgrade :( I wish I haven't updated
I've tested a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacha
If you leave the C-state's at default/auto (with new BIOSes, 1302+), then you can choose between 1600MHz or Turbo-speed in w7 by changing the Power Options.
The good part, You can change to High Performance or Balanced, anytime :). In this way you can experiment and see what works best for you too.
This is with BIOS 1305, and all C-state's on auto/default:
Power Option= Balanced, it Idles @1600MHz and uses ~10w, even with manual vCore=1.28v Idle:
http://img.techpowerup.org/110220/Capture003111.jpg
Power Option= High performance, it Idles @4.5GHz and uses ~31w, with the same vCore:
http://img.techpowerup.org/110220/Capture004243.jpg
You could probably even tune it further by tweaking the 'minimum processor state' option in the advanced settings of a given power plan. Can anyone test and see if this works? It'd be great if it did, as you could choose idle clocks freely with it.
Doesn't seem to chance anything for me with bios 1305. Multiplier stays at 16 with both balanced and performance until the CPU gets under load. Even tweaking the mimimum processor state didn't chance anything. All the C settings are set to auto.
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic
If you want him allways at the max speed just disable C states :up: and SpeedStep on bios
The M4E allows this also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
^^ Good to hear. I guess several MB's are going to allow that with evolving BIOSes, better power management.
Just a little 30-min Prime run for checking out BIOS 1305. So far so good.
The load-vCore is dropping more with manual vCore and LLC=Ultra.
Not much more tho, it was on the limit already, but enough to bring it down to 1.264v :) (vs 1.272v for earlier BIOSes, with the same 1.280v BIOS set).
2600k @4.5GHz 1.26v 30-min Prime Small FFT :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/110221/Capture016.jpg
Is that 1204 that you want to downgrade from or did you upgrade to 1305?Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
I went for 1305, thought they might fix some mem problems I was having, but it didn't they became even worst... And now I'm stuck at "Image outdated" problem :down: I'm a bit sad with ASUS, I might should have sticked with giga...Quote:
Originally Posted by some_one
if u read the thread from sin0822 about the giga´s i think u will not be too bad with the asus.. the have also problems to bring out a good bios for p67 chipset.. i know the "flash back problem" but overall the asus is more stable @all i think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Yep that worked fine, just strange the changing of power settings didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
As mentioned earlier in the thread, page 20, it can be possible to rollback.Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Let me know if you want to risk it. :devil:
EDIT: Looks like the new B3 stepping boards will be available shortly.
As a precaution please do not try to downgrade from the B3 (Rev 3.0) boards using a B2 stepping BIOS (pre 1305) until (in)compatibility can be ascertained.
You've been warned. :yepp:
I do. Please provide info.
I would like this info since I'm on 1053 and really afraid to update for fear of problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by some_one
Post a how to pls, I'll be very helpfull
Okay, as stated a few pages back you'll need a modified older BIOS. I have made a modded 0804 for you and have tested it on my own system. I'll send a link through PM.
This is just for the EVO. If somethings not clear or you can think of a better way of explaining let me know.
1. If you haven't already, download BUPDATER version 1.22, make something to boot real DOS and make sure you have backed up your BIOS.
2. Enter BIOS, select F5 and load optimized settings. Save and exit F10. If you want to be ultra cautious you could check stability, in particular RAM using optimized defaults.
2. Reboot to real DOS and run "BUPDATER /pc /g".
3. Select 0804EV2.ROM and yes to flash. Note that if you select and read a valid ROM image and decide not to go ahead the /pc switch seems to do something anyway and you will probably need to go into the EFI BIOS again and save your settings. Seems like a bug in BUPDATER for it to do that. It may post with "press F1 to enter setup" after detecting improper BIOS settings however if you have "ignore F1" set in the BIOS then it will try to boot with the improper settings so make sure you hit the delete key and get into the BIOS setup before trying to run your OS regardless and save your BIOS settings after checking to be safe.
4. Once you have successfully flashed the modded 0804 image 0804EV2.ROM you can go into the BIOS setup and flash any of the other BIOS images up to 1305 using EzFlash. If you want to use 0804 you can flash over the modded one with the original 0804 to keep things straight if you wish.
0804EV2.ROM will only work for images upto and including hardware version 2. If some time later Asus does another hardware version increment then a newer modified 0804 image would have to be made.
EDIT: Looks like the new B3 stepping boards will be available shortly.
As a precaution please do not try to downgrade from the B3 (Rev 3.0) boards using a B2 stepping BIOS (pre 1305) until (in)compatibility can be ascertained.
You've been warned. :yepp:
Thank you very much, tomorrow I've the whole day to play with my toys, I'll post feedback by there :)
got a modded bios for the "Pro" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by some_one
Has anyone had this happen:
I have one sata drive attached to a gray port. That's it for drives. The computer restarted at some point today when I wasn't home (I forgot to untick "automatically restart" in the start/recovery properties) and now the bios doesn't see the drive.
I turned off power at the psu for few seconds, then back on. Booted to bios and the drive shows up again. F10/reboot, then it'll get to windows.
Memory passes a couple passes of memtest 4.20, cpu overclock passes an hour of LinX.
This is on P8P67 Pro, Windows 7 (did it before SP-1, and after SP-1), bios 1204, 100 x 47, 1.35 vcore.
Any ideas?
What does event viewer say?
I've had this issue from day one! Its my SSD that goes missing. I have to go into boot and re-prioritize(sp) it all the time. RPITAQuote:
Originally Posted by my87csx481
can someone mod memory table from M4E to p8p?
What needs to be modified is outlined in post #499 but requires a little knowledge of EFI. Once Stoned is happy and the instructions are easily understood I'll look at the PRO for you if nobody else has.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostyAMD
thanks I'll be looking forward to this as the talk of bricking boards and none available at present has me really nervousQuote:
Originally Posted by some_one
A quick question here - why wont those 1305 BIOS`s show up in the asustek support site ?
It feels somewhat safer for me to download the file from their servers , especially after my little corrupted BIOS experience with my deluxe mobo .
Some benchmarks of WD Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EALX on Intel 6Gbps and Marvell 9120.
Marvell clearly has problems with write.
http://www.shrani.si/t/1o/w2/2cRV9gCF/atto-wd10ealx.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/3t/cB/2k3DXZG...lx-marvell.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/t/3J/tW/1FI3Ul0...k-wd10ealx.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/1S/rQ/2JMRyst...k-wd10ealx.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/t/3t/r/436g1W1j...w-wd10ealx.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/3t/r/436g1W1j...w-wd10ealx.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/t/3l/gn/4MvuwJJ...nchmark-re.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/5/tt/1sZXXWK6...nchmark-re.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/t/1/wo/RwMh7qo/...nchmark-wr.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/33/jV/vW3x54I...nchmark-wr.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/t/2U/dS/1ob97no...le-benchma.jpg http://www.shrani.si/t/2b/eT/6dilF9Z...le-benchma.jpg
same here with C300,it happen once on gray port and navy blue (Marvell)Quote:
Originally Posted by AUGieDogie
"drive not detected":down:
because they brick bios chips..GaryK won't even mention this issue :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dany74q
So 1204 still best bios for p8p67 pro?
This: The device, \Device\Ide\iaStor0, did not respond within the timeout period. There are several of these.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
Got this a couple times too: The system failed to flush data to the transaction log. Corruption may occur.
:shrug::shrug:I'm testing a click or two more ram voltage right now.
You have an issue with the intel sata controller. Either that or the drive attached to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by my87csx481
Frosty, the modded BIOS is a solution for those wanting to rollback from 1305 / 1204 to an older BIOS which is currently prohibited on some ASUS boards. It will not do anything to help with bricked boards or prevent boards from being bricked.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostyAMD
Does anyone remember how to fix the "non detection of PCI X-Fi soundcards"?
I think I've tried everything I can recall, and read on the internet.
I have this in my device manager
http://bildr.no/thumb/831419.jpeg
and when I try to install the X-Fi drivers, I get this error message:
http://bildr.no/thumb/831422.jpeg
God damn enoying
As far as I know, when installing xfi drivers you always need to start with the supplied disc and then update frome there, else you will get that error message.
Kinda hard to install a driver for a device that doesn't get recognized :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
Have you tried to disable the Realtek HD Audio? It seams some kind of HW-conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by tentp0le
Strange thing, Realtek audio is disabled in bios. My X-Fi card is in the PCI 1 slot, and is lit - but doesn't get detected by windows and device manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
I remember I had problem with the first time I installed the new SB system, but got it to work somehow. But can't recall :(
Try the other pci slot and if it installs there, then try moving it back and see what happens.
Just switched to the other PCI-slot, no difference :/Quote:
Originally Posted by bito
So what are you saying? You are using the driver disc that came with your audio card or a driver that was downloaded from creative?Quote:
Originally Posted by tentp0le
I had this problem (exact error message) before and the issue was using an updated driver without having ever installed the initial driver from the disc. Once I used the driver on the disc and then updated it, there wasnt any issues.
Now, there is an obvious entry in your device manager for an audio card. Therefore windows does recognize it, it just doesnt have a driver installed for it.
If my above suggestion does not work, then sorry I couldnt be of help.
Np - thanks for trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyea
I have the former X-Fi Fatality card, which uses a PCI slot, and the CD is so outdated, that is says that this version of Windows is not supported, obviously I'm on 7.
Maybe someone, a member here perhaps, or even creative themseleves can get you and updated disc? I mean this problem is so common, you would think that they would have a fix for it and not force people to use old drivers from the disc.
EDIT: Anyway, there is a ton of posts on google about this issue. Search "creative x-fi fatal1ty setup is unable to detect a supported product on system"
http://www.google.ca/search?q=creati...01a5e2345272c3
where does this board sit in the asus p67 oc hierarchy?
P8P67-M Pro ?
*
I see now its the entry p67 m sized,ok for now till more come back.
Is anyone having a problem with wireless keyboard/mouse? I tried a Microsoft wireless (2.4Ghz) desktop and had frequent 2-10 second freezes where nothing was received by the computer. The wired keyboard/mouse with the same driver have no problem. P8P67 Deluxe. The problem also occurred with an older Microsoft wireless keyboard/mouse.
You may have a issue with the bluetooh instalation. Disable Bluetooh in bios or install the drivers and software regarding bluetooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Can you Pm meQuote:
Originally Posted by some_one
P8P67 pro mod bios ? I want to downgrade my 1305.
1305 bios can not use SLI. !!!!!!:mad:
The bluetooth drivers are installed. I've tried disabling it in device manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMike
Disabling it the BIOS will make a difference? What if I wanted to use the bluetooth to sync my phone?