I could not get the CPU below 0c or the system would not post.
Working on max frequency @ 0c, My tandem compressor Krotech can hold 0c :)
OCZ Cryo-Z is far too cold, doesnt boot and I lost a day putzing with it.
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I could not get the CPU below 0c or the system would not post.
Working on max frequency @ 0c, My tandem compressor Krotech can hold 0c :)
OCZ Cryo-Z is far too cold, doesnt boot and I lost a day putzing with it.
Fugger: did you test for coldbug on different motherboards?
AANNDD: what is max frequency :D
no post is probably mainboard related, 0°C isn't coldbug area for phenoms iirc. do you have other boards to test? (just asking).Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
anyway, thanks for pushing it around. effort's appreciated.
I guess FUGGER could use one of these three DFI mobos that Tony has ;)
P.S
FUGGER please start new thread when you're ready to show what you've achieved!
Yeah, coldbug is mobo related. Out of the 4 phenoms I've tested, on my 9500 had a slightly higher coldbug at around -35C or -30C. All the others boot at below -40C but its pointless because cold hurts your overclock. 0C should be interesting though, its cold enough to keep the temps down alot, but also warm enough that it won't be as limiting as my vapo.
Its Tricky.
lets hope AMD releases new bios updates soon, and phenom will rock my socks off or crap they are off :P
yeah, the colder they get, the less volts they can chew. weird stuff, but interesting nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
athlon x2 3800, don't know about the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser777
I'm not near that pc untill this weekend so i'll check back for bios version then.
ps it even boots fine and runs 3dmark without a prob on 250mhz but then it's not 100% stable :D
Sorry for the OT.
Very nice job Tony.
Phenom is not so bad as i thought. I hope 45nm will make it even better :)
sorry you feel that wat Biohead, but I was not trying to hijack this thread, this is a tread about the new Phenom right?? So I got the 9850 and tried it on my motherboard, and I had no luck. So I thought just maybe some one else on here with their exp. could give their advice. Like I said I will be building the new spider build here soon so Tony, and others testing will really help me out. Thanks Tony and all who have posted their exp.
Phenom is a totally different animal thats for sure, I have 4GB Flex2 here that I have 1200MHZ fully stable on a P35 MARS and its not doing as well with my 9850 :(
1066 is to easy, 1100 was easy 1150...not as easy, I think its drive so more testing needed.
Note on the new dfi bios, flashed it my way, sorry brother and it then would not boot the 9850...flashed it with a 6400+ after it would not boot the 9850 with the shipping bios either...total frustration now set in.
Soooo battery upside down, power off for 10 mins, rebuild and the dreaded 88's came again...hit reset...C1 25 26 2d boom it was up LOL
Weird crap thats for sure ;)
Little teaser pic for ya ;)
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...ests/gary1.png
NB 2.6GHZ...100 more than on the older DFI board ;)
Looks like my replacement K9A2 will arrive tomorrow. The 9850 has been here for a week, so it's about dern time that I can mate the two together. If it doesn't happen soon I'm going to miss all the excitement.
@Tony: When you said a dozen or two pages ago that "AOD killed the board" did you mean that it just shut down or the board was fried? My last K9A2 died the instant I opened AOD with a 5000 BE.
just shut the board down, not killed it.
Weird it killed the MSI, my board and AOD get a long just peachy here, much better than the DFI and AOD do
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Don't have to apologize to me Tony:) By far you know more about Bios then I do;) These Bios are Flaky since day one and I can't quite understand why all the hoopla is needed myself:shrug: Just try to keep folks out of trouble by posting a reference for them to go by that will lessen the risk of having a bad flash:yepp:
Experienced a similar thing with my CB Tracers they needed less voltage in an p5ke-wifi with an qx6850.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Nice 13xmulti :) What NB VID/voltage does it need?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I've also heard about SpeedFan issues with the M2R/M2RS...
Basically,
Open program
Bam board is dead.
Running a tad over 1.4V, and 1.5V for the core, shooting for near 3.5GHZ 3d06 runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Workin my way up to see if I can get 2.7GHZ and 1100 ram workin ok
Thanks Tony, sorry it took so long to get back to you, I only had an hour or so to play with it last night. I took your advice and set 1066 mode, let the bios reset, booted into Windows, and then shut the machine down and restarted. When I tried to run 4x Prime Blend I got a serious crash with video corruption and on reboot a message that Windows was corrupt, so that pretty much used up what time I had... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
On the bright side, I did get windows to start and used Sytem Restore to get things back to normal. I've come to the conclusion that I'm going to have to wait for a Bios Update from GBT to get 1066 mode working. (BTW: System specs shown in my sig are correct)
The reason I say that, is that I think I could get it to work if I could manually set it to 5-8-8-30. But when I go into Manual mode, Precharge is limited to 3T, in auto mode Precharge is 5T and it almost works. If I could only get a 5T precharge in manual mode.. :rolleyes:
Jonspd is right I have a 96BE and had a 9850 (out for RMA, wouldn't even run stock stable:( ).
I'm really not looking to set any records, just want a decent day to day OC (and was hoping to get 1066 mode working :D ). My 96BE is VERY SOLID at 208x12.5x10x8 @ 1.275v CPU, 1.150v NB, 2.1v Mem...
Schneider: Thanks man, I'm normally not real confident in info from Wiki, but it's worth a look! ;) Your probably right about those last 4 being tweeks... Guess I was wrong, I'd just like to get 1066 working first! :D
Yes, I got 14x207 at 1.425Vcore, 10x207 1.3Vimc, 10x207 HT 1.29Vht Priming stable for 9 hours now...
However, now Im just very afraid to stop it and do some poor idle stuff in it in case it crashes (which Im sure about anyway). But Ill try to get it stable anyhow. Im making notes of everything so I hope to see a clearish red line in it.
Hey Ram, I've been messing with Phenoms since the begining of the year. I don't claim to be an expert, but from my experience high NB v's seem to be the culprit when it comes to Idle crashes....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Since your only running your NB @ 2070Mhz, I'd be willing to bet you could lower that voltage and improve Idle stability. My IMC runs at 2050Mhz with only 1.15v's....
You might want to try lowering it... Just food for thought :D
Thx, Ill test that out. Strange though as I understand from KTE's results he had to use higher and higher Vcore and Vimc all the time for idle stability:confused:.
Did you find a way yet to get Phenom stable while idle? Im trying to get as much info as I can just to klnow in what direction I should be going:)
Anyhow, as I want to test things first before changing a parameter right away, I quit Prime (it ran 10 hours). It didnt lock up, then I browsed some trough folders, opened WMP. Although Ive no drivers installed or even a Windows update I cant really use WMP though. But well, decided to browse trough the other HDD with XP64 and run 3 instances of Memtest.
I dont know if Memtest helps in finding stability in NB? After all it controls the memory bandwith and such. Anyway, whether it does help or not, Ill let it ruyn for 1~1.5hours, then let it idle for a few, open some programs.
As Im typing this I might actually be able to try and play a music CD. I wont have sound, but as long as the data comes trough heh.
Ram... KTE, Tony and Justapost are Phenom Guru's!!
I'm just a lowly servant who has learned everything he knows from the masters scraps... :worship:
But to answer your question, yes, so far the settings I listed above have been stable at both Idle and Stressed.
Guess it really depends on what your objectives are... My settings certainly won't be setting any records!! ;)
Nah, Im not looking for heavy instable bench wh0ring. Im trying to get it solid at the first point, but along with some nice clocks of course.
I dont think 3.5Ghz, as with my 6400+, will be doable. But if I could manage to go around 3~3.2Ghz solid Im happy. It's just a bit hard as for example 14.5x200 doesnt really work, but as I said, 14x207 was 10h+ stable lol.
All in all I really love to play around with it. Just got to keep one thing in mind, you've 9850BE speeds and you COULD get more, but nothing is guaranteed.
A few years back with my first system I OC'd I tried to get the very max 3DMarks out of it, but now I dont see the point of that (for a 24/7 system) as you only fool your self then... IMO of course:p:. I got frustrated often since lots of people hit 100~200Mhz higher than me. Benchies are nice to compare some results with previous system or with other equal systems to chceck for messed settings. But in the end you'd never beat the Vapochill/LN2/Dice people anyway:D.
Great now I regret getting a 780G Asus board...... can't handle the Phenom. Life sucks
Welcome:D. But yeah, they messed up pretty much with 780's and Phenoms. 790's aren't too pricey anymore though;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatwad
Anyway, bah, after 1.5 hours of messing around idle it froze up. So rebooted and dropped Vimc from 1.3 to 1.2V, priming now again. Not for 8h+ though, just an hour or so. After that Ill let it idle again and see what happens.
To even suggest that is not right m8....consider deleting your post man. To advise someone to deliberately damage hardware to get an RMA is just not right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaivan
LOL, I'm not happy with my DFI-M2R, BIOS ,AOD incompatibility, MEM/NB instability, you name it..., doesn't mean I will blow out the mobo just to have a replacement, simply I put it out of my recommendations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaivan
As Tony says, is not right thing to do.
:down:
Wouldn't it be better to run something like F@H client to stress test the CPU? Prime only runs through an integer process with no SSEs doesn't it? In other words it is an old test made for old 286s or earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
I am running F@H GPU CLient 2 (Ver 6.11 beta 2) and the CPU client (ver 5.03) both at the same time and they are loading up the GPU and two cores. The Task manager is showing a +50% CPU usage at the moment. I am only running at stock speed, however.
Orthos will use a gromacs core with the StressCPU option, that ought to be similar to F@H. F@H stressing isn't recommended. If you're doing it to test stability, you're gambling with WU's, they'd rather you run the client with a stable system so that they receive usable data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majmac
Thx for that, Ill use Orthos. Hopefully it wont freeze as a matter of incompatibility as it happened with my 6400 X2 (the system froze after 3~4 hours while it ran Prime without problems and was solid as a rock lol).
I hope Orthos stresses the CPU more than Prime then:cool:.
@Tony......You carry weight with DFI and have direct contact with Oskar could you pretty please with sugar on top make a suggestion to Oskar to look into and fix the non AMD Overdrive Support issue with our boards Bios?;)
AOD does actually work, once the OC gets high thats when issues set in.
I don't see why it would. Orthos runs Prime95. It also only spawns up to two threads, so you'd need multiple copies for a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Use the 25.x series of Prime95 builds:
ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v255a.zip
If you really want to stress your CPU, set it up to use small FFTs and match the memory usage to a core's share of the on-chip cache of whatever processor you're testing.
What would you say is the highest you can get one of these processors to run at, super stable, and reasonably safe, on a TRUE with decent airflow?
Since the OP is on liquid... Id like to know if you could run this at 3.5 on good air? (I run my Q6600 a 3.6 on air, and its stable at 3.8 on air)
stable and safe, i would say 3.2ghz on air without going to high on voltages
Well Oskar must be sending you special Bios then because AOD locks up the PC at random just opening the Program up! Now with current AOD it shuts it down just by opening it up NO Oveclocking Done what so ever and defaults loaded in Bios. There most certainly is a Issue with this Board and AMD Overdrive!:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
works for me manQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...er_AOD_DFI.png
High voltages and Phenom do not go hand in had. Mine's running 3G at 65°C-70°C fully aircooled outside a case (Noctua + 120mm). Voltage is set on 1,4V if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
i do agree here tony but still there is no WARNING on any of on the product pages about blowing out MOSFETS etc when you put a 125W on a 95W board, :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
what is you temp reader?, Everest is kind out of sync with the rest of the utilitys my phenom is 80c after Everest, but in AMD OverDrive its 46c :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
AOD sets your ram voltage to 1.8V at startup (beside cpu voltages), that might not work with your timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Lol,i need 1.4V for 2.4GHz NB here. How far could you push the NB frequency?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Looking at my testings it seems higher cpu frequencies make only sense if the nb frequency is ~500MHz below. You mentioned that already.
The original point was that prime is only an integer test, and doesn't stress SSE instructions. Orthos can also test using StressCPU, which uses a gromacs core similar to F@H SMP. On my machine, my computer draws 5-10W more using StressCPU over small FFTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
AMD Overdrive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
Might be bios issue, haven't tested it on version 1.4 yet
Ive been using a stress test program that Ive never seen heat up CPU's like anything else before...It also tests multiple parts of the CPU, and shows it for individual tests. It also tests RAM and HDD....Quote:
Originally Posted by ryboto
S&M stress test.... is the name and it will automatically detect any number of cores on startup..so you dont have to run multiple versions of it, and it stresses the cores simultaneously.
Lets just say when it hits the FPU tests...Ive seen it heat up CPU's 7-10C hotter than ORTHOS or P95 would...
It will error out when there is instability also.
can easily get it from Hirens BootCD in windows, using the wintools section of the CD.
Did a little evening testing; effect of NB frequency on CPU score 3D06 using 4-4-3-12 1T DDR800 Vs 5-6-6-18 2T DDR1066
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...37;20clock.PNG
I will go more in depth for part2 on TTR but this shows all is not quite what you would think, with regard to 3D06 anyway ;)
1066 was far from linear, DDR800 1T performed exactly as i thought it would.
Also using the new beta for the DFI the HT clocking is broken, you have 2000MHZ or lower, higher values do not work. On the MSI running HT=NB clock I saw performance increases.
:up: Now that is an odd result. Can it be that you had too less nb vid applied at 2200MHz and 2400MHz. I'm shooting into dark here but maybe some internal error correction is in the way here.
Another thing is max async latency. This memory timing has an big impact on everset memory benchmark. Using an higher memory voltage resulted in an lower max async latency. I skimmed over the BKDG and found that it's value gets optimized at start with some pattern testings.
Don't have the DFI and 9850 running, testing 4850e in M3A but i found those setup screenies from my previous tests.
2.8/2.2GHz: MAL 56ns
http://www.abload.de/thumb/setup4j5.jpg
2.8/2.4GHz: MAL 59ns
http://www.abload.de/thumb/setupx9s.jpg
Between reboots at the same settings MAL differs at about 1ns, the other 2ns difference must be caused by the different NB speed.
Does the 1T setting work on the DFI for you? I allways have to use memset for that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Tony, there is a "New" 4/16/2008 Beta up on DFI Site I am actually on it now.
Was this posted here already?
Asus M3N-HT with 9850 at 3.4GHz.
http://forums.overclockzone.com/foru...19#post2536519
Found it on hwbot.org.
I get this with 2.017Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9422/aodth6.jpg
I will be on it tomorrow, I doubt they have fixed the HT issue though. Force it with AOD to say 2.2GHZ at 2.4GHZ NB and 3GHZ CPU and the board just crashes hard, setting from bios does nothing, you are stuck at 2GHZ and have to push HTT to get higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
you need the updated driver/engine/dll from over at techpowerup ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
My 9850...it LIVES! Bwahaha
Anyway, I'll post back here later with some results when I've got them.
I've waded through pages but I haven't found this (maybe I'm just blind)
Has anyone clocked a B3 on a DFI M2RS, if so how well did it do?
I will go back and test again, it got a little cold in thew workshop so had to pack it in for the night...CPU in bios was showing -5C LOL which I know is wayoff but its usually around 6C so I know it was cold ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Working on it tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Right now using stock cooler and its much too hot.
See here:
M2RS Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I'll try it again :)
Oh I just found a fix :)
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/search.php?q=AOD
sweet thanks, I'll be watching :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
oh on the vista 64 bit... I used it for a little while, got F@H running on it fine, and it wasn't slow with 2GB of ram. Just needs a couple tweaks and it works pretty well. Disable UAC, install F@H outside of program files, and disable "windows search" service to turn off indexing (which is responsible for the incessant disk thrashing).
AOD lives on the M2RS with a 9850, very nice. Seems to function :)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1504/aodar1.jpg
A few brief results so far. Temps seem average (52C under load for ~5 mins) using an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro and IC Diamond thermal paste. Reassuringly, my new K9A2 hasn't blown up yet after an hour or so of the thing being on. I've tried 2.6GHz at default voltage with good luck. If it makes 3.0 I'll be satisfied. 3.1 would make me excited and 3.2 would make me quite surprised. We'll see how this ends up, but in any case it'll be better than the C2D I had before (which is dying--barely stable at 1.5V).
AOD is working with the MSI K9A2 Platinum.
I dont understand why people arent overclocking their processors above 3.0 EASILY. Am i just lucky? All i know how to do is raise the multi to 15 and its stable. Im sitting at 3.0ghz and the temps are 31/32c system says 46c and the chipset is 46c also.
I have the MR2S i think... thats the cheaper version of the DFI LP MR2 right?
My system and chipset seem hot :(
http://i25.tinypic.com/2s00nb8.jpg
Is that Vista 64?
Yours does 3.0 at default vcore (I know what it's showing in AOD, but that's often wrong so I'm asking anyway)?
---
2.8 so far under extended load at default looks good--trying 2.9 soon
In AOD or Bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
AOD is locking up at 13.5 & 14 @ stock volts. I will try in bios. Maybe read Tony's thread again.
its vista 32 and the ONLY thing i have changed in the BIOS is the multi to 15.
I cant use overdrive anymore because now whenever i press the auto clock my speakers go WEERRRRRRRRRRRABASDASD WEERRRRRRRRRRRR and i gotta shut my computer off. why? '
I wish i knew how to change the voltages or do something more than just raise the multi. :(
AOD. 14.5x200 (2900) is working at stock voltage too so far (p95-amd64-4td) and it's been about 10 minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by Undersea
Crash instantly at 3.0 using default vCore. I'll try jacking it up a bit.
whats the option for vcore? i cant find it rofl
let me know what you are doing please :) i cant oc phenoms very well :(
Hey guys... do you change bios settings then let AOD do the rest?
My AOD says
System is tuning, and this may take several minutes to several hours.
Current CPU clock is: 223 MHz
Current HT Link ref. clock is: 223 MHz
AutoClock is finished successfully!
So if i go and change my multi in the bios will my pc crash?
At 223mhz im only at 2787 MHz :(
If i raise the multi first and then run AOD it crashes after 3.0ghz
Does AOD auto tune rise the cpu and nb voltage also? If not try it with a higher cpu and nb voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
KTE tried it on the K9A2 Platinum. See here.
How should NB increase with vCore? I haven't been changing it because NB clock has been staying the same. Did I see somewhere that NB voltage needs to be >= vCore?
I cant figure out where to change those voltages in the bios lol.. i could use aod but does that change the bios or just apply a software patch everytime i boot up?
Change in PWN Feature in Genie Bios:)Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
What are you guys running latest AMD Overdrive or build 2.0.14????
i saw that and figured it was the vcore but im not sure what is what... its not labeled like it used to be lol
WOW amazing I hope I don't crow to soon and jinx this but I have actually gotten AMD Overdrive 2.017 & Engine .dll installed and it has not locked my system up:)
Now you kind gentleman that have been using this Program with my board could you please tell me if I can Manually set Bios and use this program for monitoring and just general use without it crashing due to Bios Set Manually? Can you use this in conjunction with overclock established and set in Bios?
Please advise I have had a miserable experience with this program since I got this board before it was available on the open market so I am ignorant on exactly the do's and don'ts of this app well you know why already!:p:
Please assist a brother in need:up:
@Tony.......Hey, I did not see that you could not get beyond 2ghz NB with 4/15/08 unless raising HT Bus post that you made until after I had already Installed 4/16/2008 "Beta" or else I would have tried to duplicate on my end to see if its a issue exclusive to you on your end...sorry M8 ..But heres a screenie of 4/16/2008 Beta and I have no issue on this release setting NB Multi higher to go to 2.2ghz.
I also have had success with AMD Overdrive Until........I Installed and opened the Current Build of CPUZ ...and BLAMO.......BSOD:slap: :D ....Frigging BSOD came out like a Six Shooter Being drawn at the OK Corral :rofl: :rotf: :doh:
My 9850 running at 2900mhz & NB 2400mhz 1.29v.:D My mainboard is DQ6.
I am lucky. Will test it higher soon.
HT Brother not NB, Iwas trying to push the HT link to say 2.4GHZ while running NB at 2.6GHZ and CPU at 3.0GHZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
On your screenie you highlighted the NB clock where you needed to highlight the HT clock which is still at 2GHZ
Tony, I tried some couple days ago with bios 307, HT>2000 never worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1200
Jimmy confirmed today that HT over 2000 is not working, I feel they should just remove the options from bios to stop confusion.
:nono:What they should do, is put it to work, at least on unlocked Phenoms.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Just my :2cents:
Hmmm? So is it more or less confirmed now that NB clocks should be within 'x Mhz' of CPU clock now? Cause if I see for example Tony's results, he gets very nice clocks, but that's with the NB clocks being higher too. And most important, are those OC's of people with 3Ghz 100% stable or what?
Im in testing, at school now so I dont know the situation of my PC right now, but Large FFT testing seemed to catch errors WAY better than small FFT's. Also 14.5x200 froze everytime after ~1hour and 20minutes in Large FFT at the same test, I added a bit of Vcore and Vnb but it didnt help, which I found strange.
14x200 is testing now. I really like to get the CPU at least 3Ghz stable, I know nothing is guaranteed in the OC world although I'd really love it. I might try to add some NB clocks when I get home and see how 14.5x200 is doing then. ATM Im only testing with multiplier clocking. Once I finally get a good CPU OC Ill switch arund with a mix of multi's and HTT to get the RAM speed higher. I cant be bothered with 1066, Ill just try and use 800.
But any comments about 3Ghz OC's being stable and how NB clocks should be within x of CPU clocks would be great:up:
I have had a problem with anything at 3000Mhz and above being stable at everyday use "idle" I can idle with no programs open all day long and run Prime95 until my heart is content, but leaving something like Outlook open crashes my system.
So I have been working my way back up to 3000Mhz very slowly with little changes at a time I am currently at the following settings:
CPU - 2990Mhz
CPU Multi - 13x
HT Clock - 230
CPU vddc 1.424
NB Core - 1.275
Mem vddc - 2.1
Stable at everything so far...may up the HT Clock to 231 this weekend and give 3003Mhz a try again.
As far as AOD is concerned, I use it to test settings and once I find something stable I set that in the Bios. Then I work up to the next stable setting and apply those changes in the Bios..so on and so forth. AOD is good for testing settings.
Sorry Tony I really thought you were referring to NB:p: My bad and Naughty Monkey should pay more attention at times:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Tony.....I see in this new 4/16/2008 Beta Release there is now a attached message on CPU Vcore in PWM say CPU Voltage and CPU - NB Vlotage should be equal to CPU Vcore voltage..........Kinda late disclosing that aren't they? Also what is you're direct opinion on that one Tony as I never really Messed with the CPU-NB Vlotage adjustment until now?
My AOD seems to freeze when i get 220x14 :(
I can easily get 3.0 when i raise the multi to 15 and its stable.. but it doesnt go much higher than that.
Can anyone help me learn about the options on the bios? This isnt as easy as the x2's :(
I know i can go to the PWM settings in the bios but im not sure which ones the vcore and even if i find the vcore... what do i do next? lol
Someone post their settings so i can try to copy them and learn :up:
QFT, Im getting mad at the stupid freeze behaviour lol. It makes no sense wtf ever I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
That's indeed rather late:shakes:. Also... why? That also means, if true, that there must be a link between NB and CPU then, at least Voltage wise:rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Ill try it though, maybe it might even increase CPU over all clocks:cool:. But I still vote for the post I made above
CPU and NB voltage don't need to be the same at all, at least on my board. If they get seperate power planes then they shouldn't need to be equal, or else it isn't really seperate. Generally the nb will need more voltage than the rest of the cpu for the same speed, like 2.5cpu/2.5nb would work for me at 1.15v/1.25v, but then trying to run the nb at 3ghz I couldn't get it stable because it was the near vertical part of the voltage curve at that point.
Oldguy......There is a setting in our Bios under PWM for CPU-NB Voltage control > In addition to NB-Core Voltage and CPU-Core Voltage
The first >>>>CPU-NB Voltage control: is the one in question:)
thats not the name of it... which ones the vcore?
Hmm, if I remeber correct there is no vcore filed in the M2RS bios. It only has an percentage bump field.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
M2RS isn't percentage, it is by mV increments (like +25mV, +50mV, something like that). It is under the PWM setting, I think it is CPU over voltage or CPU voltage adjust or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
My 9850 so far isn't responding at all to voltage, which leads me to believe it's something else wrong. It just WILL NOT do 3.0. In fact, the more voltage you give it, the faster it crashes.
I'm seeing a lot of that "clock interrupt not received on a secondary processor" or whatever message even at 1.45V.
Spread spectrum was on--this can mess with things if I recall, yes?
finally a thread of hope for AMD.
Yet... it's still ...
Who knows?
FINALLY someone has answered my question after days of asking :) thanks !Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
so +50mV = ? 1.78vcore ?
Lol, not so many M2RS users here.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
1000mV = 1V
100mV = 0.1V
50mV = 0.05V
25mV = 0.025V
:)
why would they make the 2 motherboards so different? I wonder if theres a modded bios to make it like the mr2 :)
i got the cpu to 1.48 finally without using stupid AOD
http://i30.tinypic.com/2egekg3.jpg
I don't really think AMD really died, they just screwed up their PR and look like they're mismanaged in a major way. I remember fanboy BS from circa 2000 that AMD "stole" all of Intel's designs blah, blah, blah. Seriously, it's OK to have opinions but I'm real tired of all the negativity towards the phenom (and fanboyism in general). intel took a few tries to get to the Core 2 Duo architecture alright. Anyone remember Pentium D or Core architecture? Those weren't nearly as good as Core 2.
Benchmarks are great, but I don't think they tell the whole story (though I don't doubt the efficacy of benchmarks), personally I like to rate PCs by how they feel and move (which are partly subjective observations) regarless of paper specs and benchies. I know somebodies gonna insert insult...here, but that's my opinion. Ranting and raving aside, I would like to thank you, Tony, for your efforts and objectivity in this thread.