alright then i look forward to your upcoming findings :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
alright then i look forward to your upcoming findings :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
I feel the same way John:( Even in the AMD 790FX-M2R it requires insane Board and ram Voltage to Overclock the sticks in conjunction with the Processor:yepp:
I have notified Robert and Sascha of my Findings with the Memory in the New DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R already and Sascha will be pushing to get some Samples for D.F.I to start testing with their Boards thats if MSC will listen:confused:
I have even Flashed to a different SPD.File that Sascha has given me with mo EPP Profile and its the same deal.
praz: do you have a picture of where I can measure GTL volts (contact points)? I want to make my own measurements.
SPD isn't going to help. That's why I'm leaning toward the PCB being the cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
It will be the weekend before I can get pictures. Look at the pics I have of the P35. The trace routing and MOSFET location is slightly different but close enough that you will be able to find them on the X38. To do the measurements you need to use a meter with 4 digit accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Yah......If we could only get Cell Shock on the same page with D.F.I as OCZ Memory is that would rock:D
Hope to be able to get one of these babies soon. :D Not enough minerals to get one to the Philippines though... shipping will cost me an arm and leg...
Ok, I got mine up and running.
Running a;
e6850 atm
2x1 crucial 6400
1 3870
Silverstone zeus 750
Tuniq tower
No os atm
My question is, when ever I adjust the vcore, I get a start up loop but no boot up. It's a good thing this isn't in a case,, yet.
As soon as I get this going, I'll throw on an os and my other 3870:D
its funny how everything you have mentioned was exactly what i was running in my setup before i changed it to a go
btw what can i use to cool the pwm area?
I have a fan blowing on the area.. It's not in the case. But when it is, it will be cooled off by a 60m fan attached to one of the waterblock posts/bolt. I'll be putting a q6600 in later.
the pwm gets much hotter when you add a q6600. i will be putting a 60mm on the outside zip tied to the I/O panel when i get it in the mail, hopefully it will help move all that hot air out.
Another "Duh" moment:p: ..Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
0.44375 in the bios means 0.44375.. I thought it was like the last dfi I had.Where you add it on to the vcore.:shrug:
u have to do the gtl when u adjust it
i shall ask again for general opinions, worth selling my DFI P35 LP for this board or nothing really to gain?not running crossfire.
I have had this board up and running now for 3 days with a WC Q6600 G0 and an X3210 G0. If I was going to give you advice I would say not to jump to it yet. So far this board will not OC a quad (except for the QX9650) any better than any of the other 4 boards I have tried. Yes, it is a tinkerer's delight but it still isn't in a class by itself when it comes to the Quad. It may be after a few bios updates but for right now I would have been just as happy with the P35 version for $90 less. Some are jumping on the Foxconn Mars bandwagon cuz someone has achieved 515FSB with a quad. My guess is that is a brute force situation where a ton of vcore was still needed to get that high. But then again, at least the board got that high. If you take a look around no one is talking 500FSB with a quad, at least not for 24/7 use. But everyone has a 3.6GHz OC with varying levels of vcore. This is so common that I would be quite disappointed with anything less. I can get both of my chips to the 3.7-3.8GHz range with reasonable vcore. I have yet to get either into windows at 4GHz no matter how much vcore I give it. There certainly could be something on the board I am not seeing causing this so I will need to do some more tinkering but I think right now it is time for a new chip or wait for the Q9550.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
I have not tried a C2D yet (I no longer have one available) so I can't speak to its ability with those CPUs. But I am of the impression that 4GHz should be achieved with 1.5vcore or less to call a chip a good OCer. Either I do not have a chip capable of that or none of the boards are capable.
Also, I have not yet tried to OC the memory too much. I am running everything 1:1 so until I max out the CPU I won't bother with the memory.
That's because finding a quad that will do 500+ FSB is as rare as a pink diamond. Most dual-cores that run run above 520 FSB are done with modded boards or CPU killing PLL voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
I think that is why I am going to hold off on buying any more C2Qs and wait for the 45nm stuff to come out. (I can't justify $1K on a QX9650).Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
The 9550 should allow most to hit at least 4.0. I think the sweet spot for 24/7 use will be the 8500 though.
Yeah, I will be torn between dual or quad core for sure. I do a lot of audio and video editing so the quad is nice but I am not on a timeline to get stuff done so having a smoking dual core is fine. I should have kept my L629B Xeon3060 just to play with. That thing was an easy 4GHz. Oh well...
thanks for that mate. ive got a QX9650 days away(on a plane from Canada).
but now im torn between this or giving 780i a go. or maybe i will get both,lol.
the addiction just cant be stopped....................................:eek: :p:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
OK guys, since this is my last day at work for this year :)
i have time to test out my E2180 with this board.
A short test got me to the following situation, 3050 stable at stock voltages (1,232) but 3100 fails prime instantly.
Settings should be useable for 24/7 use. I'am on watercooling so where should i start ? Need some hints for board voltages, cpu vtt and maybe GTL voltages ( i think you can leave them at "disable" when using dual core, or am i wrong ?).
set the vtt to 1.6 for nice stable clocks, nb needs volts in general ie. if you are looking for more stability increase that first. then if the nb and cpu vtt isnt helping pop the cpu up a notch. thats my experience with the oc process on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
the general procedure for GTL is to find a stable clock (via cpu voltage) with gtl disabled, then lset the GTL to 67 percent using praz's p35 charts (I already linked a few pages back). once you do that you can fiddle with lowering your cpu volts and still have stability.
i learned most of this stuff (i hope its correct) through the UT P35 thread, so i would advise you check that out for more tips.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
i wholeheartedly agree with sofarfrome!...TRUE, it is a tweaker's board but you are really not going to do any better going from a P35 board to an X38 board...who knows, Foxconn could have cherry picked their boards to send out to the "big guns" in overclocking...i respect their results but for most of us, we won't achieve that, especially for a Quad cpu!Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
here's the Pro's for this board:
1) PWM HS and 8 phase digital power are excellent
2) love the cmos store banks (four)
3) tweak city;) on bios memory settings and voltages...BUT...that comes with a HUGE learning curve
4) hardly any vcore droop (0.02)
5) Areca raid card can work from PCIe slot #1 and VC in slot #2, and get full bandwidth 16x or in my case, 8x for my Areca card.
6) 6 USB ports on the rear I/O panel
7) like the added yellow bank with 2 SATA ports that run off the JMicron SATA/PATA controller...more flexibility.
CON'S:
1) can not mount oversized air cpu heatsink, like the TRUE, to face rear of case because of the oversized NB heatsink.
2) not enough fan headers to control fan speed...CPU fan header won't control fan speed with a 3 pin plug fan...had to move plug to NB header....the IP35 Pro puts this board to shame when it comes to fan headers and speed control.
3) smart guardian is just about useless...ok, maybe voltage readouts is good...compare that prog to Abit's "Uguru" technology and you will understand RIGHT away!
4) missing a rear mounted CMOS reset switch which is on Abit's Pro board and other Abit top line boards...i guess the 'Hotkey' is the answer to that but it seems arduous to get it done that way.
5) harder to overclock as you reach top limit of memory or cpu...the IP35 Pro is a breeze:) in comparison.
i will add more as i remember them:D
It is a tweaker's board. That is both it's strength and weakness. Once the components are pushed to the edge further gains become increasingly more involved. But with the settings at one's disposal usually the results will exceed other boards. If this is worthwhile for 24/7 use is a decision each user will have to make. But as Eva's memory results have shown, use the settings that most leave set on Auto and the results can be worthwhile.
The PWM fan speed issue is something I don't know if there is a feasible solution to or not. The controller from ITE supports PWM only. The other headers are converted by additional circuitry to function as 3 pin speed control. Maybe the same circuit with a digital switch activated be a BIOS setting? Will have to ask Oskar about that.
Personally I prefer pressing the Insert key to clear the BIOS rather then reaching behind the case. But I use a PS2 keyboard too. USB results can be iffy.
Yeah clock fine delay is one powerful option for memory clocking! Works better and more predictable on DFI X38 than DFI P35 though :)
Weird thing is, even if modules are in dimm slot 2+4 instead of 1+3, the most beneficial clock fine delay setting to adjust is still for dimm 1 + 3 clock fine delay options (regardless where modules are in dimm slots) !
At least I know it's not just me.Trying to figure that one out myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Yeah.. check this out.. some further evidenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @643Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.23v
Having too much fun with clock fine delay tweaking, really brings new life to my Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 non-Tracer / Tracer memory modules!
Swapped in a 3rd kit, this time in dimm slot 2+4 with 2x1GB Cruciall Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer modules. At first had troubles even with 600Mhz 5-5-5-9 PL6 at 2.19v with memtest86+ v1.70 test #5 having a few errors on 1st pass. Fine tune clock fine delay values and I'm memtesting without problems at 640Mhz 5-5-5-9 PL6 at same 2.19v vdimm ! 645Mhz 5-5-5-9 PL6 took only 2.23v bios set for single Super Pi 32M!!!! :D
This particular set of Ballistix Tracers took 2.4-2.45v to do 651mhz 5-5-5-15 on Asus P5K Deluxe!.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...3m48s578ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._bandwidth.png
DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
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PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3433
CPU Clock: 429
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1290
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.23
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.591
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.382
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 7 (raised from Current 2)
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 7
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 7 (raised from Current 2)
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 6
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
Very nice memory clocking there Eva! :up:
nice clock Eva
i got 1 question
are write n copy bandwidth important for performance or is the read the most important
George, your posts are demonstrating what differentiates this board and the P35 from others. Using and tweaking the options Oskar has given us yields big dividends. Unfortunately to many users are buying these boards for plug-n-play and not reaping the benefits the board has to offer.
The above example is a case in point. We can say the Asus runs just as fast or faster with less fiddling required. But once the BIOS is worked the difference is benchable voltages with the Asus compared to 24/7 voltages on the DFI at the same memory speed. Maybe after seeing your posts more users will explore these BIOS options.
thanks... I'll move onto other divider testing later to see if same gains can be made for clock fine delay tweaking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
yup all important... latency more important than read really thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Yeah Asus in terms of memory is more plug and play :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Right now memtesting away at 660mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.38v :eek:
I don't think I have anything that will go past 630MHz. I'll do some runs tonight before I strip the board down and find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
eva...did you test also 3:5 and 5:8 divider ?....i can't boot with those settings....i alredy tried to set manually some timings and act on NB voltage, but as soon as I set this divider, the mobo restart and stops in a whistle....:(
not yet.. but seems 5:8 is carry over from DFI P35 chipset latencies just set too tight maybe ? try backing off alot on tRFC, PL (tRD) and/or cas 5 see if it helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapFTP
all but 2 of my crucial 8500 kits did max out at 651mhz 5-5-5-x on Asus P35 boards but so far all doing at least 10-18mhz better on DFI X38 due to clock fine delay. Maybe you'll surpass that 630mhz barrier :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @659Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.38v
Even better, 640mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.19v, 643mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.23v and now 659mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.38v !
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
Single 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...3m28s516ms.png
Dual 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2m_halfway.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...dual32m_tn.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._bandwidth.png
DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
Quote:
PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3515
CPU Clock: 439
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1320
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.38
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.604
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.387
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 7 (raised from Current 2)
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 7
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 7 (raised from Current 2)
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 6
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
Any idea on how I can get my hands on this board? Which e-tailer ships to PR?
NeweggQuote:
Originally Posted by fireice2
I have been going to EGG HEAD and checking past few days but they haven't Pony'ed up on the Board again:(
Those Tracers are flat kicking butt.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
You guys need to go Back to AMD I am getting really Lonely over there:D
you forgot to check here for the board;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ATX-p-405.html
lol they drop the price $15 already?
hmmmm thats odd been checking with MBP and New Egg about the same probably more leaning towards the MBP:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I would like to thank Eva2000 for the screenies and bios settings:up:
Just hit 4ghz with my new X38 and QX9650 :) Pics up soon.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...4ghzStable.jpg
:up: Alright
Can anybody share their experience with watercooling this baby, i'm looking at the D-Tek Fusion or the EK Supreme to cool a QX9650 into a Thermochill 120.3 What about the north & southbridge and mosfets, which would benefit the most from water and which blocks do you recommend.
@Eva: i noticed you didn't push much voltages on the proc & instead did some massive doses on the NB...
I think my board is officially dead. I started getting a "C1" error that I can't clear. Tried all the DDR2 I have here in all 4 channels one by one. Clearing CMOS didn't help either. I never got past 3.6GHz which is pretty disappointing considering my P965 could already do 3.5GHz. Adjusting GTL values would give a minute or 2 more on OCCT, but would still fail on anything above 400FSB.
i'm getting this c1 error too. since i've the board, i was never able to boot :(
tried all slots/cmos clear/other psu/ez clear.
my ram: 2gb kingston hyper-x pc9200
had the C1 error too but fixed that. just let the mobo run few minutes with the error and hit the reset button few times.. i tried to find the problem and figured out that my ram is the problem. after getting the c1 error i switched from cellshock to ocz and it booted without errors.
Yup they are.. this tracer set that does 659mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.38v doesn't do that well on cas4 timings in that it doesn't like tRAS of 5 much past 550mhz 4-4-4-5 - tuning clock fine delay allowed me to use tRAS 5 up to 550mhz, but past 550Mhz that it likes tRAS 8 or 9 more for 4-4-4-8/9. Compared to the non-tracer i tested which had no probs with tRAS of 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
i can imagine how lonely it is :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
no probs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
yes my cpu doesn't need vcore increases since it's prime95 stable at 1.312v under load at 3600Mhz. So far most benchmarks been under <3600Mhz so need to touch vcore :)Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @601Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.55v
DFI LP LT X38-T2R is the first motherboard ever for me to allow me to pass Super Pi 32M at 600mhz 4-4-4-x settings below <2.60v memory voltage. After fine tuning clock and command fine delay I managed to pull off 32M @601.9Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.55v straight boot from bios. Then using Memset tightened tRFC and tRAS and tWR to 25, 8 and 11 (bios or 10 memset) respectively and still pass a Super Pi 32M run.
Unfortunately, it seems the Super Pi 32M time on DFI LP LT X38-T2R even at 9x401FSB 601.9Mhz 4-4-4-9 was around 2-4 seconds slower than on DFI LP UT P35-T2R @9x400FSB 600Mhz 5-4-4-5 at basically same timings/subtimings and bios tweaks.
@601.9Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.55v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...3m08s344ms.png
Tightened subtimings in Memset (same windows session)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...3m06s547ms.png
It seems to come down to bandwidth and latency differences between DFI LP LT X38-T2R vs LP UT P35-T2R.
X38-T2R
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._bandwidth.png
P35-T2R
Yes, tRFC and tWR is a bit tighter at 24 and 10 instead of 30 and 14 but that didn't make up for super pi or everest bandwidth differences much.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...-bandwidth.png
DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
Quote:
PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3618
CPU Clock: 402
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1206
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.55
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.617
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.393
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 5
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 9
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 5
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 4
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 9
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 4
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
nice work george.....really a good kit you have....my tracer don't like 444 and also GKX prefer to go up with 5.5.5
i'll test again...but also my impression was that x38 was a bit slower...
eva2000 you really seem to like this board :)
I hope they will be available again when the wolfies come out in January.
Didn't have time to try any other sticks. About the best these will do. They don't come close to your Tracers Eva.
http://edgeofstability.com/images/x3...x7_everest.jpg
http://edgeofstability.com/images/x3.../532x7_32m.jpg
Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................7x
CPU Clock.................................532 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.4125V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.420V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.604V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.409V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................10
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................28
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................3
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................280ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................490pd
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................560ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................350ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................840ps
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................280ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................420ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................420ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................420ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................840ps
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................3CLK
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................3CLK
you did a fine job there tweaking it, Praz!:up:
my mushkin requires much more voltage compared to my ballistix
ballistix needs 2.17v for 1200 n mushkin needs 2.32v
testing out the mushkin it can do 3-3-3-8 @ 800mhz 2.3v n 5-4-4-12 @ 1200mhz2.35v but no way i can go higher than 1200 is it possible i have d9gkx n not d9gmh in them? or it is just a crap pair that i got from rma?
thanks .. play with clock fine delay particularly dimm 1 and 3 clock fine delay and sometimes command clock fine delay :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CapFTP
nice FSB on that cpu!.. my E6850 L720A489 maxes out at 502FSB on DFI X38, 501FSB on Asus Blitz Formula and 490FSB on DFI P35. Is that 12/18 bios with ps values for clock fine delay ?? seems more confusing than single/doubel digit values ?? I can't seem to flash to 12/18 bios it won't recognize it in winflash - says please load correct bios!. AWDFLASH only ??? It recognizes 11/28 bios though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
play with clock fine delay can make a huge difference! i.e. 600mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.19v not memtest stable after clock fine delay tweaks 640mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.19v memtest stable :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
yeah i do... happy it matches max FSB as my Asus Blitz Formula unlike my DFI P35 which was 10FSB less max FSB. Only outstanding issue on DFI 38 is working 5:8 divider and more stable 3:5 and 4:5 divider fix. 1:1, 5:6 and 2:3 seem fine though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Den Leiw
i tried your fine delay settings eva takes 2.3v i can do 1200 with 2.2 with value ram but my mushkin xp2-8500 want 2.32v @1200 5-5-5-15 or 5-4-4-15 anything less i get errors in memtest
You can't just use same clock fine delay values as mine.. different memory need different values..
so far tested 2 sets of crucial ballistix 8500 non-tracer and 1 set of crucial ballistix 8500 tracers, all 3 pairs need different values which can further vary depending on memory clock speed, fsb, memory divider and timings used..
Here's a general explanation and guide to find the optimal clock fine delay values for your particular memory at a a particular memory clock on a particular memory divider (can change depending on divider/mem clock used) http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4743 (pen, paper and memtest86+ v1.70 are your friends :D ;) )
i honestly dont need to hit 1300+ eva but still gonna try lol
my thing is this mushkin memory i got freakin me out takin way too much votls to be stable i think its d9gkx
any way to test to make sure? withought removin heatspreaders lol
my ballistix do 1200+ 2.13v @1200MHZ but dont do 3-3-3-8 @800mhz like my mushkins
i gonna see if the board likes micron fatties
\Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
That's how the 12/07 and 12/18 BIOS is set up. I prefer it that way as you know the actual time delay in pico seconds. However it doesn't seem we have access to all the values. If using defaults the board may set a value of 465ps. In the BIOS there will be an option of 420ps or 490ps Obviously the board has access to values that we don't as of yet. Another thing I've noticed is when setting back to Current Value. Instead of reverting to board default it locks it to whatever value is presently set. Have to do a FSB change to get the board to actually go back to auto selecting the value.
I'm not sure what the processor will do on this board . It did 560FSB on the P35.
Edit: I've got the board tore down right now. Tomorrow when I get it back together I'll load up WinFlash. I usually flash from a USB drive so haven't tried WinFlash with this board.
that's normal older D9x stuff need such volts... newer D9 seem to be alot better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
weird... might stick with 11/28 for now then heh..Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
btw, what you set to boot from in bios for USB drives.. never could get USB drive with bootable floppy image to boot on DFI boards... tried USB-FDD/USB-ZIP/USB-HDD and no luck ??
If it's configured to be bootable, hit escape during post. When the boot screen displays it should be listed as a hard drive option.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
i finally got high fsb stable:D cpu maxed out 580fsb on dq6 this is max for now
weird i cant do it @ cas 5 but i'm good with cas 4
Praz has the easiest way but you can go into the bios and set your USB drive as the primary booting hard drive out of all the other drives (i have three) and then make sure the hard drive is selected as the 1st boot device.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
nb and vtt volts for that FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
1.72v for nb vtt
i can only do it with cas 4 though not cas 5
Does anyone here use the DiamondFlash Image method of flashing the bios?
How do you make your flashdriver "bootable"?
If you could buy a new pair of 2x1gb RAM for this mobo (X38) witch one would you choose? (ballistix, ocz reaper, corsair etc)??
I'm putting up my xmas rig together and I don't know much about this mobo yet.
So far I got this:
- 2 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- 2 x VisionTek 900203 Radeon HD 3850 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Video Card is Crossfire
- Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AL1065
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepp
I just got a set of Crucial DDR2-667 Ballistix from Newegg. I am running them at DDR2-928 with 4-4-4-9 timings using 2.0vdimm. I had another set that clocked and tracked just like the 10th anniversary in my sig which will do 1200+ at 5-5-5-15. I haven't pushed these yet but I will and I expect the same performance. For $41 AMIR you can't go wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
the 3850s work beautifully on this board, I wish i could keep the ones I'm using
i got 10 gigs n from all of em the ballistix 8500s are the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Happy Holiday Guys! Treat For You:rofl:
Heres a Really Nice DFI Wallpaper and some Christmas Cheer Please Click Me!:D
Might as well be consistant:rofl:
Thanks will try that.. in meantime :D
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @675Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.55v
Swapped the dimm slots for this pair of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracers from dimm slot 2+4 (yellow slots) to 1+3 (green slots) and seems can overclock a bit better. I can now hit 675Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.55v - highest ever CAS5 memory clock for this pair of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracers at Super Pi 32M passable speeds!
Still 32M time seems around 4-10 seconds slower at 3600Mhz mark than 965P/P35 chipset. I guess the loosened internal latencies on X38 allow memory to clock higher but at a cost of clock for clock performance ? Still I am looking forward to 3dmark benchmarks with X38 x16+x16 PCI-E slots :)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
Click image for larger version below
Super Pi 1M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...5ms_memset.png
Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...1ms_memset.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...everest_tn.png
DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
Quote:
PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3601
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1353
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.55
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.643
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.393
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 8
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
Managed to shave 4 seconds off 32M time and drop memory latency a tad :)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2ms_memset.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...est_memset.png
how many crucial kits u have overthere ???
:D
great numbers...fine...!!!
i was playing yesterday with my unique set of tracer, and i noticed that the fine delay is not always the same...
I mean: let's imagine you 're finding out your max frequency with a set:
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 2
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 7
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 2
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 6
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 10
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
you fail...you reboot and reload your safe CMOS reloaded settings....(where you just specified More aggressive, but not fixed by hand the numbers...) and tadaaaaa.....you can sometimes find other combinations, like:
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 0
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 5
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 8
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 5
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 0
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 4
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 8
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 4
which is really similar but seems all just shifted by -2 downwards.....and may happen also it increase....and give the same stability...
seems like a phase shifting or smething like this ??:confused:
3 sets of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer and 8 sets of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Non-tracers :D
Current values will move with mem clock/divider etc so what you have for current values at say 660mhz won't be same as 666mhz. Unless you manually set the clock fine delay values then they'll stick :)
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracer @681.5Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.60v
Bumped up vdimm and 32M @681.5Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.60v !
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...cpuz_valid.png
Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...8ms_memset.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...everest_tn.png
DFI LP LT X38-T2R Bios Settings
Quote:
PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7C
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
- Target CPU Clock: 3634
CPU Clock: 454
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1364
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.325
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.60
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.665
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.409
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: 8
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 6
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 7
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 11
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: 6
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 30
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 5
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4
Finding it hard to follow my results ? well Merry Christmas guys => http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5226 ;)
eva, you really don't want to stop ah ??
my poor tracer's....:D
a fine voltage for daily usage.
fast, fast, more aggressive e fine delay ad hoc
:)
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...minvoltage.JPG
With my P35-T2R not liking my QX, Im thinking of switching to this board... Can somebody please list me the max voltage for the ff:
vcore
vdimm
nb
sbPLL
cpuVTT
Thanks..
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4957Quote:
Originally Posted by luihed
well, seeing as I seem to be one of the only people running the q6600 on this board, here is a nice little screenie of my max clock at x8 multi. 1 more fsb clock and the whole thing goes to hell ;)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8...55mhzssgg1.jpg
yeah, i got mine running. :D
just bought a cheap 512mb ddr-800 stick.
it booted successfully, i upped the ram voltage and now my kingstons pc9200 are running without problems. :)
Just thought I would post this, as it may just be me. I flashed to the 12/18 bios that was on DFI's website (but is not there anymore) 2 days ago. I thought everything was OK, but I ended up flashing back to the shipping bios. The one change of the 12/18 was "video card compatability". As I am running a new 8800GTS 512 and was playing around with my Areca 1210 in the second pci-e 16X slot, I thought I would give it a try. Since flashing, my rig has black screened and frozen up while playing COD4 3 times. All settings were identical between the 11/28 and 12/18 setups. I flashed back and just finished a marathon session. No problems.
So, was there an issue with it? Did DFI pull it or am I just a little blind (entirely possible as well)?
Shawn
Did the DFI temp monitor come on the CD? I didn't seem to see it:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Edit: Found it on their website :)
Thank you Eva for all your help:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Merry Christmas! to you too.. And everyone else here...
[QUOTE=SNiiPE_DoGG;2651136]well, seeing as I seem to be one of the only people running the q6600 on this board, here is a nice little screenie of my max clock at x8 multi. 1 more fsb clock and the whole thing goes to hell ;)
I stuck one in this morning. Same settings require less voltage all around on this board compared to the P35.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...sc/3600x38.jpg
The 12/18 is still there as a Beta. I wasn't sure why it was posted as official to begin with. Might be your RAID didn't like the changes. I've been using for at least a week and has been solid as a rock for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
I was running an L738A Q6600 on mine with nearly identical results. I think the max FSB I was running was 469 though. I need better cooling before I play with a quad on this board again. The single 120mm rad that is hanging off the back of the case was very warm to the touch after about an hour or so of P95. Time to get another TC 120.3 I guess. I am sure this will go higher with some better cooling.
It was definately a video-related lock up. Very strange indeed. None the less, all is well with the 11/28.
Thanks... Yummy voltages:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Praz
I actually just got back from the store and they agreed to take my P35 back and give me a credit for this board.... When I checked the availability it said "in stock" but when you click the real time stock status it says " in stock soon" lol.... WTF
I really think that a bios update will fix some oc headroom on this board, it seems really odd to me that my system is prime stable at 469 and wont post at 470 (or 471,472,473,474,475,476).
I am considering bumping my multi to x9 and going for clockspeed later tonight, depends on if i have time after building 2 more computers this afternoon.
hmmz this board seems nice I hope I wont regret it, that I choose the Maximus over this board. Havent test my maximus tho.
Took me awhile but finally got my board stable at 3.4 which requires 1.45vcore and quite alot of nb and vtt voltages
Once I lower the nb and vtt voltages during prime, the screen just goes black
I look at the monitor and the screen light is on and the mb post code is at FF
not quite sure what is wrong here..
also my tracers are suppose to be rated 1066 but it doesnt want to boot at those spds with 2.23 volts
Do i just have bad luck with this board or is something really wrong?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
i have a limitation on my qx9650...it won't work reliably over 460 fsb...so...i am down to 400 fsb using 11 multi (4400 mhz) since 4500 mhz required to much vcore for my comfrot zone to be 24/7...right now, i can get away with 1.52v actual vcore to complete wPrime 1024M bench...for an extra 100 mhz i need to pump another 0.05v into the core...the return is not worthwhile for just another 100 mhz.
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
THANK YOU, EVA for the bios settings!...i will try to use some of them.
i hope you won't take this negatively...but...i really want to know what you can push that E6850 to for an overclock...i'm really not interested in memory performance since the conroe and kentsfield showed up on scene...it has made it unnecessary to try to punch out high system memory bandwidth when the cpu has a huge L2 presence!
i am really interested in more (cpu) horsepower performance over memory bandwidth performance...memory bandwidth is really passe now, not like it was when we only used a single core processor with hyperthreading on the 875x chipset.
i can do 4.2 easy on air startin @ 4,3 gettin hot my cpu maxes out @ 580 fsb
does anybody know when the boards will be on stock here in EU, no matter where I searched for it, all stores are just waiting for it :( but I need new motherboard. Any info would be greatly appreciated :)
Im not sure they will be anywhere for a while...
Newegg completely removed the board from its site and the rumor was in the past that after the first shipment (to mobopro/ncix/newegg) that there werent going to be any more until 2008 jan or feb.
Thats why I bought mine early for the high price at mobopro. ;)
But who knows, maybe EU is just getting a delayed shipment, not sure how things usually work for you guys...
There were only 1000 boards shipped to Europe IIRC
Most went to North America...
I can wait until E8400 is released, hopefully until then some have them in stock again. And in the EU the price is very good for a DFI board, around ~215 €
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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Did you find any quirks ( is that a word lol ) running your QX with this board? Its a real b!tch running it on the UT P35-T2R....
it got iffy when i started to get above 4200 mhz...i had to work REALLY HARD at finding the bios settings to make it stable up to 4400/4500 mhz...once i got over the hump and understood about adjusting the cpu vtt and gtl ref settings, it was easier...but...the memory settings is a whole other thing...it is a shame that DFI didn't throw in a newb guide for all those settings...LOL:DQuote:
Originally Posted by luihed
NOW...on the IP35 Pro board it was failrly easy to get to 4400 mhz...that bios is like child's play compared to the DFI bios....at my age, scholars tell me to follow the "KISS" theorem...LOL;)
GREAT!...are you on air cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_