This board is a lot better than some other boards I've used concerning initial VDIMM. Gigabyte boards are real bad about not supplying enough VDIMM to POST.
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This board is a lot better than some other boards I've used concerning initial VDIMM. Gigabyte boards are real bad about not supplying enough VDIMM to POST.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6...usvczv8.th.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Tested, it works :D :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ea6gka
HI
I am having same problem. I flashed to 504 on my p5e and I can not flash to 402 bios. Afudos tells me the bios is too old. I also tried using older Afudos 2.11 and this also tell me the checksum is bad.
Anybody know how I can go back to the older BIOS? 405 sets vcore at 2.6V!
:shrug:
is it, everytime a new bios comes out people just dive on it like it is the holy grail!:shocked: Do some reading and see if in the release notes you see if the solution to your Problem? is there. If not don't load it up. I am still using the original bios with absolutely no complaints. I am just taking my time getting to know the board. Not just the bios update section. It just keeps getting better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...illa/piman.jpg
This board has lots to offer you just got to figure out how to get it.
WZ
I partly agree with your statement, but I think that mobo manufactures learn from people actually having the mobo and giving them feedback. The first initial bios is stable due to a lot of testing before releasing the mobo. The following updates are quickly released (mostly as beta's) to again get user feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
well i am really ****** off with asus , after downgrading the bios to 107 the board could not update any bios reporting that the motherboard is NOT an asus one thus the updating process could not start. After 5-6 restarts the mobo went into continuous reboots , on and off....for ever. crashfree utility did not function:rolleyes:
the mobo is already in the bin , that was the last asus motherboard for me .
thanks asus for your brilliant 200 euro mobo and leaving me 4 days without pc
oh i have bonus photo to upload later
Just replace my old GA-965P-DQ6 with P5E, new board is much better than
965P-DQ6 in every aspect, especially overclock options in the bios and DDR2
oc'd very good.
It's a pity that Asus didn't make their recent bios well, though. Could someone
please advise that is there any P5E bios has its Q-fan work? Can't imagine why
Asus isn't able to deal with simple task like this :( CPU fan is so noisy because
bios just can't control it and running in full speed !
Download AsusUpdate 6.10.02, install it, in the options menu check the ability to downgrade the BIOS, chose to flash from a file and continue untill your favorite BIOS is correctly flashed. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu17
If you have Vista32, install launching "setup.exe"; Vista64 is probably not supported.
The funny thing is that Q-fan works perfectly on chassis fans. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
Really:shocked: never found that, will give it a try, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
AsusUpdate 6.10.02 can't be installed on Vista x64, it's confirmed.
pencil mod done
before :
1.425v bios >> 1.38v windows idle >> 1.34v Full
Now :
1.425v bios >> 1.40v windows idle >> 1.39v full
Idle (1.40v) :
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/379...8895610_rs.jpg
Full (1.392v) :
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1500/fullut4.jpg
(Just need a litle more of pencil and its perfect !! :D)
Runing prime95 @ 3600mhz @ 1.38v >> Aircooled with thermalright extrme 120
:up:
I love this board so far. I hope my E8500 will get along with it come January. It should with a 9.5x multi...
I used a 2B pencil and it improved my VDroop but didn't eliminate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
1.325 VCore in BIOS 0303 is 1.30V in PC Probe II. The E6850 does 3600 MHz stable at 1.325 BIOS VCore with 400FSB x 9 though -- G.Skill 2 x 2G at 1066 MHz. Not bad. Why is some VDroop necessary in the design of these boards?
Come on ea6gka. One minute you are running bios 402 all content to run perfectly at 400fsb. you even posted your cpuz. So why if that bios fit your system so well did you change it? Geez learn to leave well enough alone. Asus is as good as anybody at board building. As far as needing feed back from you and me on each new bios. I strongly doubt most of the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: is really the type of info that will help Asus write their next bios. I saw this on the P5W DH thread too. People grabbing every bios to come down the pike only to be disappointed. If you have a bios that is working good for you then leave it alone!!!
WZ
What you're saying isn't really what you'd call VDroop. It's a simple difference in voltage readings from the BIOS vs. reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
VDroop is when your CPU is being supplied with a certain voltage during idle and then "droops" under load, causing lock ups and instability issues during heavy use (Orthos / gaming etc.) Almost no board out there properly reports actual VCore correctly-that's no biggie.
What the mod does is stabilize the voltage and keep it the same during idle and load.
Thanks Brahmzy, there in no longer a drop during load with the pencil mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Just tested it again on bios 0402 with one memorystick (slot1)
Getting the first error at first pass on adress 928.6mb(memtest86 1.7). Already disabled usb legacy.
As stated: bios 0107 and 0201 give no errors.
Only from bios 0303 and up it errors.
I've used these sets of ram in different configs (paired, single, etc)
cm2x1024-6400c4dhx
xms2-6400 1024mb 800mhz 4-4-4-12
2.10v ver2.1 07370844
cm2x1024-6400
xms6405v5.1 1024mb 800mhz 5-5-5-12
004270 0633450-0
Don't like this at all, allready mailed asus about it a few days ago, but you know, the're not responding :-(
Only time it works without errors is when the bios crashes and it starts up with the f1/f2 bios action. I choose f2 (load default settings and continue) and running memtest I get no errors, but after resetting the problems are back again. Already talked about it on the corsair forums, but they can't do anything for me there cause it's not a bad memory issue.
Is there any tool where I can see all bios settings within dos/windows?
Maybe I can see some setting that's different (can't imagine cause I tried everything)
because i was hoping for better overclocking , 450x8 was impossible while cheaper boards such as ip35pro can do it. then this newer bios literally destroyed my board , wasnt expecting thisQuote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
i think the site is called extremesystems , leaving alone my board is not an option for me, especially when i know the board can do betterQuote:
Geez learn to leave well enough alone. Asus is as good as anybody at board building.
generally every new bios fixes issues and offers new things and/or performance , i have never encountered this before though , a bios update which messed everything. instead of leaving my bios alone , i leave the board alone , so i can happily continue with my ip35pro, thanks/:up:Quote:
I saw this on the P5W DH thread too. People grabbing every bios to come down the pike only to be disappointed. If you have a bios that is working good for you then leave it alone!!!
It will run on 1 stick and pass memory test all day. If you put 2 in dual channel, fails within 30 seconds EVERY time! Memory test fine in a DX38BT... also one at a time is fine, I ordered some OCZ plat according to the QVL Hope they work better... I am running a QX9650.
Got this reply for fixing my problems with my p5e:
Am I getting crazy:down:Quote:
Dear customer,
Maybe the best you can do is to downgrade your bios.
Awflash.exe BIOS.bin /py/sn/cc/f
Some more information for your reference:
The complete command is: Awflash.exe BIOS.bin /py/sn/cc/cp/cd/r/f
Explanation:
/Py –Need not choose “yes” and flash BIOS directly
/Sn – no save of the previously BIOS
/CC – Clear CMOS after flash BIOS
/CP – Clear PnP (ESCD) after flash BIOS
/CD – Clear DMI after flash BIOS
/R – System restart after flash BIOS
/F – Flash BIOS by force
With kind regards,
Asus Tsd
Have you tried this?Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes.only
sparx
Hey at least we have a solid solution for downrev'ing the BIOS, right? Instead of unplugging the thinghalfway through or whatever goofiness was discussed earlier in this thread... Looks like the /f switch would bypass any "can't revert to older BIOS" errors.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
Thanks!
This worked perfectly with my p5e :) I had to google to find the program, but it was able to downgrade the BIOS. Now I am using 402 BIOS again but my qx9650 still can not go above 3.8ghz....
More VCore Cap'n!Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu17
Why they recommend you to use Awflash which is for Award BIOS, my P5E is using AMI BIOS !!Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes.only
I have Vista 64 installed, and here is still no way to flash back to "OLD" bios from 0405, after tried all tricks shared in this thread, even advertantly corrupt bios to force it flash back to 0107 still fail to load any bios later than 0107 :-)
How long do asus require to release new bios, really getting crazy and angry!
7x500 1:1 400 strap.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7726/ss1vm7.th.jpg
Yes it works very well, I got one kit my self.Quote:
Originally Posted by BailA
Initial bios 0107 works well, manage my Q6600 G0 oc 3.44G stable, FSB:DRAM 4:5 also has no problem.
will try higher oc later until new bios that CPU Q-fan is really functional released.
I've been trying to OC a bit today :) But I seem to have an issue with my 4:5 divider, like most X38 boards have it seems. Because my CPU can handle 400MHz FSB just fine and my RAM can do 500MHz @ 5-4-4-12 - 1.9Vn but I cant run it at the same time :( CPU @ 400Mhz and RAM @ 500MHz.
Asus P5E bios 0402
What I tested:
FSB: 400MHz
FSBstrap: 333MHz
Divider: 1:1
RAM: 400MHz 5-4-4-12 1.8V
--> works fine
FSB: 333MHz
FSBstrap: 266MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 2:3
RAM: 500MHz 5-4-4-12 1.9V
--> works fine
FSB: 333MHz
FSBstrap: 333MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 5:8
RAM: 533MHz 5-5-5-15 1.9V
--> no boot (so my RAM can't run DDR2-1066MHz)
FSB: 400MHz
FSBstrap: 266MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 4:5
RAM: 500MHz 5-5-5-15 1.9V
--> no boot
MP used:6x (so my CPU isn't the problem, however it can run 8x400 fine :))
And i'm very pleased with my RAM cause stock its 400MHz-5-5-5-15, but as you can see it does much better than that :)
Any1 got an idea how I can get divider 4:5 to work?
Nice Jobmullet 500 @ 1:1 is sweet.
I here that TKC, this 107 bios is working so perfectly for my set up that it would be crazy to change, tempting but crazy.
This bios 107 although not perfect clocks very well.
Last night it was very cold out so my liquid cooling system got a real boost!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lla/morepi.jpg
3Do6 went very well also.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4093216
WZ
Nice OC there m8 :) And you seem to have no problems at all the run 4:5 divider :)
:eek: true look at that 4:5 divider. What board revision?
The 4:5 divider seems to work the best on this board.
This is a Rev 1.02G board.
I have some 2 x 2gb G.Skill coming in, if it won't duplicate this I'll use it in another system. Getting to know this board has been a challenge in itself.
I am still not there yet. It has only been a week and I have been working some Xtreme hours!
WZ
Is anybody using phase on this board?
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Can you post your BIOS settings? :) Then I can give them a go :)
Thx in advance :)
for game what mainboard is better ???
x38-dq6 - p5e- Maximus Formula
(sorry for bad english)
you should read dq6 thread carefully before you go gigabyte:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by DEXON
please take me the name board
thanks
Here are the settings i used to get to 438 fsb
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_0410.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_0411.jpg
The only diiference between that and my daily are just a couple settings.
I run the Vcore at 1.6375 and the Northbridge Volts at 1.65. Of course I turn the fsb down to 425. As cool as I run I would have no qualms about running 1.65 V-core daily.
WZ
Thx, and kinda funny that your boards OC's your ram alot when it's set to auto... I sure had expected that it just would run it 1:1 with your FSB, because that gives it a much closer value to DDR2-800, which your ram is and says it is with SPD. I should give the 'auto' option a go then :D
Edit:
I've did some testing and divider 4:5 only seem to work for me with low FSB.
Tests I did:
FSB: 266MHz
FSBstrap: 266MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 4:5
RAM: 400MHz 5-5-5-15 1.8V
--> booted fine (is the stock settings for my hardware :))
FSB: 333MHz
FSBstrap: 266MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 4:5
RAM: 416MHz 5-5-5-15 1.9V
--> no boot (but this should work fine since this is what I ran 24/7 on my 975X P5W DH)
FSB: 400MHz
FSBstrap: 266MHz
Divider(FSB:RAM): 4:5
RAM: 500MHz 5-5-5-15 1.9V
--> no boot, even had a BIOS checksum error
Gonna test some more and play a bit with the bios settings and hopefully get it to work :)
Have you guys bothered to disassemble your X38 HSF's? A couple pages ago I described just how bad the contact (or lack of) is with the MCH / heastsink/heatpipe. You might wanna look at that just for grins...
I found I was only getting contact on the very outside edges/corners....
I lapped all surfaces and applied some MX-2.
Brahmzy,
I'm not sure but isn't Asus P5E series mobo's HSF heat epoxied with X38's IHS (NB chip)? They should be glued together and hard like concrete when cool, are you sure they do not 100% contact with each other in your board?
While for the HSF of ICH9(SB chip), I believe it's worth a double check as there is only heatpad used.
BR
I'm planning to do that during the X-mas holiday :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Settings I am currently using for 24/7 configuration on Corsair Nautilus watercooling.
CPU: QX9650
Ram: Corsair PC2-14400 INT Dominator Edition v3.1
Motherboard: P5E3
Videocard: 8800 ULTRA
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 465
PCIE Frequency: 118
DRAM Frequency: DDR-1860
DRAM Command Rate: 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 6
RAS# PRE Time: 6
RAS# ACT Time: 14
Subtimings: 6-48-20-15-5-7-5-6
Dram Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
AI Clock Skew for Channel A: Auto
AI Clock Skew for Channel B: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level 2
Voltage:
CPU Voltage: 1.46250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.62
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50
Dram Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.63
SB Voltage: Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage: Auto
Loan-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: Auto
NB GTL Voltage Reference: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Provides under <40ms Latency and around 12.5k memory bandwidth.
Overall I am very happy with the settings for 24/7 configuration.
I SO wish I would have taken a picture - I might be getting another P5E for my second box - I'll snap one then.Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
There is no epoxy. It's just a very sticky thermal pad on the bottom of the heatsink's copper plate. I disassembled mine before I ever hooked it up and it was very cold from sitting on the porch in freezing temperatures - it popped right off. Scraping the pad off was a real PITA though. But yeah, only the very outside edges and corners made any contact with the X38 IHS. It took a little lapping to flatten out both surfaces too. I'm certainly glad I did it. That's the first thing I always do with a new board is "fix" the cooling.
I am just wondering if THAT might have anything to do with the seemingly odd amount of incosistant results from this board people are having.
Also, again, I did the full VDroop mod.
My P5E is the most rock solid board I've ever used - and I've used a ton.
Well I think I have found the sweet spot for my machine. I needed only bump the mem to 2.3V and it has been running here smooth and fast all day and into tonight. I can run smoothly at 428fsb with tight timings on the 4:5.
This gave me a cpu score of 6066!! on 3D06. I am pretty darned happy with that for now. As a matter of fact I am plum content.
I can run higher for short term benching.....Like this....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dZilla/fpi.jpg
The mem was running 4-4-4-5 for this run on the 4:5
But, this isn't a true reflection of where I can run and be stable.
here is a shot of my 06 scores clocks and temps and stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dZilla/o06.jpg
I got to say I am lovin this board more and more.
I am curious to see how it is going to do with the 2X2gb G.Skill PC8000 I got coming in on Thursday.
Well I believe the good cooling is the key So get'em cooled down and see
WZ
P5E BIOS 501 is out! ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5E/
Who is so brave to test it? :D
I look forward to your results with this RAM. I like mine and run a E6850 on the same revision board.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Brahmzy, thanks for the advice, I will check my board later ;)
:( Bad news - had to RMA my board. After a lot of heavy testing BIOS corrupted or something like that. No CPU recognation at all........:down:
:D Now happy with DDR3...........
Not me, after the last one I´m done with BIOS updates with this board for now :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
0402 is still rock solid here...not changing unless I hear great additional benefits....
I am still working with 107 and have found no need to update from it yet.
WZ
OK, so I have flashed 0501, for everyone here in the forum :rolleyes:, following is my finding by now
1. :up: bug fixed, bois setting can't change value by "+" & "-" button unless number is inputted in advance.
2. :down: new bug, divider 4:5 AND 5:6 do not post when FSB > 400.
3. :down: bug still exist, CPU Q-fan do not work. (Asus please wake up !)
4. :down: bug still exist, report inaccurate temp and intermittently stop reporting.
5. to be confirmed, fsb ceiling around 470~480.
overall experience isn't good for 0501, I am forced to decrease fsb due to divider problem, you may stay where you are, and I am waiting for the next update. :shakes:
Thanks for the detailed report TKC!Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
the tragedy continues , afaict
Not true in my rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
I am 430x8, strap 333 and 5:6 and it is stable like a rock!
With my hardware and settings, it is by sure better than 402.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
Maybe this issue is hardware dependent, but it's out of question that 0501 is much worse than 0107 in my board, FSB/DRAM 435x8/1088(0107) vs 400x8/1066(0501).
I also found that 0501 have problem on SpeedStep(EIST), EIST will stop working after some period of ocing, and the option of speedstep in the bios will disappear! WTF.....:mad:
Everyone please keep feedback so we can discover how new bios play, as Asus never give out clear information about their bios.
BR
you bet ea6kga I see you are no further with your new board than you were with you P5E. :rofl: I on the otherhand am loving this new torture tool from Asus. Them disgusting bastards have forced me to just keep pushing this POS farther and tighter everyday!! Boy they are just completely disgusting dawgs.
I mean How am I to live with this new board when I can only get it to run stable with my Q6600 at a lousy 3862mhz. with my mem on the 4:5 and these crappy 4-4-4-4 timings Oh the misery I live with daily. I guess I am just a sucker for punishment.:ROTF:
Jeez I guess I should RMA this POS.:shrug:
I mean the damn thing only sets a new high for itself everyday since I got it.:yepp:
Check out this poor lame new high cpu score for 06.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/06.jpg
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4136743
I am going to write Asus a long letter and really tell them off!!!
WZ
jesus , that is a monster clock :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
With crippled 0501 bios, I still manage to 3.6G finally.
Updated to my signature.
Did you do the VDroop mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
Hello,
I could use a few opinions on needed FSB voltages for the FSB clock area of 400 MHz and above on the P5E.
I've had intermittent crash problems on my P5E and on my former P5B Deluxe board. Only yesterday I managed to get my system rocksteady. Anyway, my main problems were sudden application crashes, like Second Life and Need for Speed Underground and Carbon. The frequency of the crashes varied widely from every few seconds (Vista 64, Need for Speed Undergound 2), up to every few days (Second Life in Win2003 Server x86).
I came to the conclusion that my FSB voltage was too high, and the NB core volt too low at times. What makes my system stable currently is:
CPU divider: 8x (E6600 at 3.6 GHz, 1.46V)
NB voltage: 1.55V
FSB clock: 450 MHz
FSB voltage: 1.26V
FSB Strap: 400
RAM: 4x1 GB Corsair XMS-2 PC800 CL5 at 2.1V/900 MHz
What are your experiences for the best FSB and NB voltages?
PS: Orthos has always been stable for me after 6h continuous stress tests in blend mode.
Looking forward to your replies. :)
Similar to mine - I've got an E6600 running 425x8 (3.4Ghz) @ 1.425V. Mem's at 5:6 1066 2.1V.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Are you sure you need that much NB Voltage? I'm rock solid at 1.35 NB V. Maybe that extra 25 FSB needs a lot more...
What week is your E6600? Sounds like a very similar chip to mine - I need about 1.45V-1.46V to do 3.6Ghz.
No, I'm not sure about the NB voltage. I'll set it to 1.30 or 1.35 for a test tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
My week code is 7638A742 (Yes, no trailing L), and SSPEC is SL9S8
I just realized that my RAM is getting a little unstable at 900 MHz, so I am back to 875 (RAM) and 3.5 GHz CPU (437x8).
I wonder what's better. 400x9/RAM at 800 or 437x8 at 875 RAM clock. I doubt tho it really matters...memory speed doesn't make much of a difference on Intel systems compared to AMD64s.
:)
Q6600
444x9
Aircooled @ thermalright extreme (with scythe Ultra-Kaze 120mm @ 2000 rpm)
Asus P5E (bios 0107)
Strap = 333
NB voltage = 1.47v (didnt try less)
Vcore = 1.55v (didnt try less)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6460/4ghziy8.jpg
:up:
That basically answers my question, Strap 333 requiring more voltage. Cool overclock, tho!Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Has anybody observed application crashes upton too high FSB voltages? Namely , 1.38V and more on Strap 400 and 333?
I have had several instabilities for months, and I seem to have fixed all of them at some point during that time but not all of them. I only see now what has been wrong, which is hard to tell apart into separate problems anyway when all of them are causing the same issues on the P5B Deluxe. It finally made me buy the P5E, which solved them by giving me the Strap 400 now.
:up: Which is the main reason why I wanted it.
BTW, the NB is now running at 1.31V, stable. Have a look at my specs, I finally got my 8800GTS to a whopping 660 MHz.
---
ASUS P5E, BIOS 0402
E6600 @ 3.5 GHz/1.46V/437*8
X38 MCH volt: 1.31, Strap 400, FSB 1.26V
4 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800
Sparkle 8800GTS 320MB, GPU: 660 MHz, RAM: 2050 MHz, 3DMark 06: 11200@1280
Enermax Liberty 400W PSU
ST3500630AS SATA2/NCQ 500GB
WD2500KS SATA2 250GB
wtf is the comp out sideQuote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
No, I didn't, and I won't do it unless Vcore/load can't support my CPU ocing anymore, even though VDrop is that large.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
If VDrop can be resolved as easily as 2B pencil drawing, why mobo maker still allow it exist after so many years? In fact some opinion that I heard believe there are techincal reasons behind the VDrop.
Regards
Generally speaking, what is the best bios version to work with this mobo?
Well, Intel specifies that drop in the specifications for the voltage regulations. Often some VRM specs version like 10.5 or 11 is mentioned in mainboard feature lists...there is a long history behind those VRMs. VRM means Voltage Regulator Module.Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
Back int he times of Pentium 1 and Pentium Pro systems and servers, some CPUs came with a dedicated voltage module for them to provide the right voltage. This was short-lived but the modules still exist, but now integrated on the boards.
However I cannot tell you the actual reasons why the dropping was introduced later.
Hope that helps. But whenever you hear someone whining "My board is crap, the voltage drops. Bwahaha, mommie!" just blame it on a bigmouthy kiddie with no experience behind the keyboard. :down:
Besides, the regulation chips require external capacitors. And capacitors are as they are, you can simply draw a graphite line over them. It is as it is. :shrug: The circuitry outside the chips is always similar.
Why go to lengths to prevent people from doing pencil mods and still put overclocker options into your BIOS? :D
There is no answer for that. Everyone here seems to be using a different BIOS version because that is what seemed to worked fro them. I'm using 0402, wihich has been great for me, but others hate it, vice-versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
Kinda strange that way.
askimo,
I have used 0107, 0402, 0405, and 0501, my opinion is the best one goes to 0107.
Amurtigress,
Thanks for the information.
As pencil mod to minimize Vdrop is indeed an interesting trick, someday I may use it w/o hesitation at all, but not now :D .
Tried again today to get some extra mhz out of my q6600 with my p5e.
Was tunning on 3200mhz(8X400) with 1,3875 vcore in bios, rest more or less default.
Used some settings for northbridge and fsb voltages and upped the speed to 9x400 = 3600 an had my vcore to 1.55 in bios to get this setup to run. Started with memtest86 and it was stable for about 7 hours. In windows vista a different story: occt running and vista crashed with a blue screen saying something about an 0X00000124 error. Had my vcore to 1.55 in bios to get this setup to run. Changed some settings but kept keeping these errors.
Any ideas?
Edit:
Vista boot with 2 gigs of ram is also not very fast. And small tricks for that?
Thanks!
Yes very strange, perhaps the problem resides with the kind of memory used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
Like I mentioned before, this could be related to the kind of memory used.Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
Do you know if is possible to flash back to older bioses? I have the 0107 installed, but I don't want to try more recent ones if I cannot flash back
Any ideas on the lifespan of the bios chip?
Bad flash isn't possible because you could always refrash with the crashbios method.
I think the memory has a LOT to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
It has been proven the the GSkill 2x2GB PC8000 works VERY well with these boards. I had big issues with my OCZ PC6400 R2 stuff - but only in Vx64.
I have got the 'BUG' to upgrade to a newer board. This looks like a great board. I have done some research and I am not convinced it is really worth upgrading in general to X38. I have a P5B Deluxe running an E6600 at 3.4Ghz which I am happy with. I am seriously considering getting a Penryn (duo or quad?) when they come out. My board will support them. I am not a gamer but I crunch numbers and I want a fast system.
Also, will a Scythe Ninja Rev B. fit?
HAPPY MOTORING
I don't have a P5E3 Deluxe version, but if anyone reading this thread does and has some experience of 4 sticks and getting them to run @ their rated 1600Mhz FSB
I could do with your help in this topic here please
By the way if anyone is thinking of purchasing a vanilla P5E3 I suggest they upgrade to the latest 0703 BIOS as I had a few issues running at even DDR3 1333Mhz with 2sticks!
Oh and disable any of the on board devices you do not use as it saves a few system resources.
John
Yes, memory is the key point, I can use all divider on 0107, while 4:5 and 5:6 are mission impossible on 0501, but this is the experience base on my rig, just for your reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
If you are running 32-bit XP/Vista, you should be able to flash back to old bios by AsusUpdate 6.10.02 in windows envirement, otherwise you have to purposely corrupt your bios and let CrashFree flashback to 0107, but be careful as the CrashFree program itself also store in CMOS chip and will be reflashed as well in the bios rewriting process, so you bear the risk of returning your board for repair if CrashFree fail to work.
eyes.only, you always can use crashbios method but you will not always be successful as I have replied to askimo.Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes.only
It's suggested that you purposely reset your computer when EZ Flash or AFDOS is erasing the bios but NOT in rewriting phase afterward, or you may also get a corrupted CrashFree!
This should be me last resource!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
I couldn't find a dedicated BIOS chip onboard anymore since the 965 mainboards. I suspect it is integrated into the chipset. Which is an indicator to me that Intel isn't worried about write cycle limitations of their flash technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes.only
This has never been a serious issue tho, I read somewhere that normal NAND flashes can be overwritten several hundred times. This actually only becomes an issue on frequently rewritten media like flash cards and USB memory sticks.
BTW, does anybody know what differences there are between the P5E 1.02G and 1.03G?
My board is a 1.02...some have the 1.03 mentioned in their sigs.
Where on the mobo do you find the version info?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
It is below the right end of the P5E sticker that covers the "MAXIMUS FORMULA" print on the mainboard between the two PCIe 1x slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
A bit below and to the right of the CMOS battery.
I got my board from the first shipment that the German K&M PC store chain received. Seems I was lucky to be such an early adopter. :D
You have to search better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Now the flash chip that contains the BIOS is a very small 8 pins one, soldered to MB.
You can find it searching near the battery.
Are you so sure? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes.only
The lifespan is depending on how many writes you do on the device. Normally they are certified for more than 1000 writes on any memory location.
About the crashbios method: some BIOS rewrites the boot block too (i.e. flashing 501 from 402 or earlier) and if something is happening when the boot block is rewritten, you can say "bye bye" to your MB and request an RMA ;)
I have 1.02G
Just updated to 501 since i had memory issues on 402...
I couldn't run my memory at 1066.. it would crash no matter what i did.
Memory rated 1066, 5-5-5-15-2T, 2.2v <- input that
random crash (would point to ati driver and say it recovered... threw me off)
tried with clock twister to most compatible and i tried the transaction booster most compatible... still crashed. Memory would work perfectly at 800 tho, also 4-4-4-12, 2.1v..
So, now im on 501, 1066, no crashes so far (can't promise anything, but crossing fingers)...
edit: i run stock cooler, and after having flashed, i restored my old OC settings (400x6, default core clock)... and it wouldn't work.. had to reboot and it would reset bios saying overclocked failed... and i was like, damn, this bios is crap :( ... then i figured i had set multiplier to 9:P
400x9 @ 1.2375 on stock cooler (yes i know cooler doesn't affect boot, but still).... not gonna boot, just in case you are wondering :P
okay, and update.
I ran through 2 runs of 3dmark (never made it through 1 before), and played some MoH: Airborne... When running 1600x1200 it would crash and give me the display driver stopped responding error, but so did it at 800mhz. Don't know if this is the game or my computer messing up. (Alt tabbing makes it possible to keep playing, but still a little annoying :))
My conclusion is tho, that it has fixed the weird lockups (edit: NOT) at 1066mhz, so if any of you out there have issues running your ram at 800+, try 501.
Edit: yeah, it still crashes at 1066 ... so... maybe these ram do not like this board, i don't know :/
Looks like the results with this mobo are all over the place. For me the 0107 bios is working OK, but I'm affraid to flash it because all of the problems ppl are having
Can somebody explain the reason why in the Asus P5E and P5K Deluxe my E6600 requires 1.1~1.2 volts in the SB to run ORTHOS stable?
I can run memtest 1.70, SuperPI, and OCCT for hours, but I cannot run ORTHOS for more than 5 minutes without crashing if the South Bridge voltage is not higher than 1.1volts
What is your OC? What's your FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
Hi guys!
I just ordered my Asus P5E, a QX9650 and a Tuniq Tower; my question is: does the TT fits perfectly on this board or i have to cut the brackets??? I read that mounting it towards up it fits without problems ;)
It fits perfectly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
I had some problem on a p5k-e flashing back after I updated to latest BIOS available.
I successfully flashed back using an old suite Asus Update
asusUpdate 61002, then you go under option and select "enable downgrade"..ten you can flash....it solved for me on P5k-e
a couple of quick test on P5E, trying to see if it works fine with the divider and some limits of the board......
max FSB = 520 Mhz
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x6-520-555.JPG
max RAM = 1:2 - DDR2-1342 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x8-670-555.JPG
MAX ram = 1:2 - DDR2-1406 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...te_703_555.JPG
2:3 - DDR2-1200 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x9-600-555.JPG
5:8 - DDR2-1280 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x9-640-555.JPG
3:5 - DDR2-1300 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x9-650-555.JPG
and the test I love more...
Daily "pro" use....500x6 - DDR2-1250 5.5.5
http://news.tecnocomputer.it/stuff/F...x6-625-555.JPG
Thanks for the info :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Envydia007
Seems i was a little early out with the memory 1066 issues.
Still crashes in World in Conflict, like it did before... and probably also why it crashed in Medal of Honor.
Im beginning to think this is more the ram (compatibility) than it is the motherboard... since so many people run this board at much higher than 1066 without any problems.... damn :down:
edit: CapFTP, what voltages do you use to achieve these speeds? just curious