What is the safest voltage for NB on a stock cooling?
Currently i have my rig at 3.8Ghz, both Vtt and Mch are on 1.3
i've tried to get it up past 4Ghz but no luck at all :(
What is the safest voltage for NB on a stock cooling?
Currently i have my rig at 3.8Ghz, both Vtt and Mch are on 1.3
i've tried to get it up past 4Ghz but no luck at all :(
OMFG!!!!!!! I am so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got a new case...Antec1200...and now I got dual channel back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And 8gb to boot!!!!!!!
Congrats!! Your single channel nightmare is over, now you can really enjoy your rig.
Have found some places selling the : GA Ep45 UD3LR here in uk wich seem to go quick,so my question is will they be a good overclockers as the GA Ep45 UD3 to go with my Q9550 ,thanks.
I existed on Single Channel for a year when half my Dominator set made the choice not to boot anymore - but it's enough for Crysis and Vista ;)
Yepper.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Seems to have been a grounding issue with the Antec900 case. Oh well, it is past me now.
woot woot
I think it will perform equally as well. Mine is an ep45T but i have a dual core in it. Never had any probs apart from needing to put a small fan aimed at northbridge as it was hotter than the sun at 1.3 Vmch. I saw them listed too on a few sites, they disapper v fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by doodle
What bios should I use on my EP45-UD3P for best overclocking? Iam running the newest F9 but often it gets into a "reboot" mode where it never boots but just reboots before bios screen :S
they sure are going fast ,thanks for your reply Songok.
GA-EP45-UD3P Rev 1.0/1.1 beta bios F10k:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/...-ep45-ud3p.htm
thats great news.but didnt you ever set it up outside of the case for troubleshooting during this whole single channel nightmare?Quote:
Originally Posted by clo007
either way its great that you can finally run dual channel now:up:
here's proof that the EP45-UD3L - the cheapest of the Ultra Durable 3 series can hold it's own at 500fsb - don't get me wrong I wouldn't leave it at this vtt - but i figure it's pretty decent for a $100 motherboard...Even beats most of Asus's line up (with Quads) AND my $200 T2RSB Plus...:eek::eek:
beautiful:clap::clap::clap:
they definitely got something here
I may just buy another one for a rainy day
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...ofof500fsb.jpg
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
anyone have feedback on the f10k bios? :)
some corrections to some network driver on fast boot that never was my problem and they say that has some bugs with showing CPU multiQuote:
Originally Posted by spinejam
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga.../index260.html
thanks sergio -- i guess i'll just hang w/ f10j for now since it's been running fine. :)
Yes I did and it still did it. It is just weird I tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
that is weird.still im glad you finally figured it out.now you can enjoy its full potential.:D have fun in dual channel and 8 gigs:up:
:shocked: what cooling do you have on the northbridge? because im on stock cooling with case fans and im still getting lockups in the high 460s fsb wise. also what performance level are you at? i see your using 1:1 memory divider while im on 5:6 performance level 8 atm. im already on the 8 multiplier to push my cpu and thats with stock cpu cooling lol. i can see myself using the 10 or possibly even the 11 multi if i push for 5ghz if i ever get around to using dry ice. big question mark over whether this board with only 4 phases will handle a quad pushed that hard, probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
Anyone have some settings for a Q6600 @ 4Ghz and beyong? At 9 x 460 its stable for benchmarks but above it crashes almost instantly. And Iam in doubt what to increase to get more stability (If its not a FSB wall)
Q6600 at 4.14GHz is already very impressive, I'd reckon you are seeing the limit of the chip.
Anyway it's taken me a long time to get used to this board coming from Asus (around 1 month), and at first I really hated it...but now I've got to say I really love it. I am running the below as my 24/7 clock, it's not prime stable but is stable enough that I can run it 24/7 with no crashes doing everything from gaming to encoding and CFD simulation.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7277/cpuidy.png
Not prime stable for 24/7 use! How can you sleep at night!!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
Hope those encodes arent for Hd****?!!
if it doesn't crash or error during encoding or simulations then who cares
I think what songok was getting at is the scope for encoding errors. If unstable by even the slightest amount, the resulting encode stands a good chance of glitchy pixels in frames etc, particularly as encoding doesn't really verify it's output. I guess if your not an audio/video-phile like me then you've got nowt to worry about, but I am!
Anyway, I've been busy with this board over the weekend - done a load of benching with my quad to get me several 2nd through to 5th places in the HWbot rankings. The only thing I've left out is PCmark, but for my first bunch of submissions I don't think I did too bad at all! If I had phase/nitrous/EP45T I bet I would do a load better!
Like I said a while ago - biting at your heels you top dogs! :up:
GA-EP45T-UD3R - F7
GA-EP45T-UD3LR - F7
GA-EP45-UD3R - F12h
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
I have mine Prime95 stable and I'm running @ 4.2GHz and I love this freaking motherboard. Best I have owned by far. I came from Asus as well here.
Jusk kidding dude. Reason i mention is, i am, as In-Fluence guessed, a video-phile and have had to redo x264 blu-ray encodes because of glitches from unstable oc. Small glitches but the people dl'ing it were quick to point them out! Nice job on 4.7 :up:, i can only dream of that on my cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
just a cheap green lit 2500rpm molex case fan and 1.30 voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
i don't let it run at 500 for fear of killing a 300$ chip with vtt, since i don't need to, but 471x8.5 is easy with this one...did it on the first try...whereas my bad ud3r took 2xdozen attempts and never booted succinctly..so to speak...I personally don't think 471 will kill it - (too soon anyway) ...:shrug::shrug::shrug:
i know it's only 4 phase and no pwm /mof cooling, but then it only has to last 3 month's when i replace it with a UD3P - but i'm a little tapped out after X-mas so this will have to suffice - and it was only a quick trip across the street - either that or the UD3LR /EP45T-UD3P - just for the DDR3 fun - if i can find one..;);)
i just wanted to say that it appears ALL the Ultra Durable 3 series can do it with Quads....that's all:clap::clap::clap:
Thanks
edit: i'm not into the performance stuff, i just set everything from Turbo to Standard..that's all I can tell ya
Hmm is there some way to get less than 2.0 divider? I cant find out if its my ram thats limiting me.
Running 9 x 460 FSB, 2.0D 4-4-4-12 is fine, 1 FSB is crash.
Running 9 x 3xx FSB, 2.6D (Gives 900Mhz on mem with sloppy timings) 5-5-5-18 cant boot
Running 9 x 380 FSB 2.5A 5-5-5-18 gives 950MHZ on mem which can boot.
Running 9 x 460 FSB, 2.0B 5-5-5-18 Runs fine which is the same as 2.0D and tighter timings, But 1 more FSB here also crashes the system, shouldnt that CAS5 give me some headroom if they are the limiting factor?
Do you think Ive hit a FSB wall?
http://www.billedeupload.dk/upload/f...1/f1976066.jpg
http://www.billedeupload.dk/upload/f...1/06226ed2.jpg
Hmm is there some way to get less than 2.0 divider? I cant find out if its my ram thats limiting me.
Running 9 x 460 FSB, 2.0D 4-4-4-12 is fine, 1 FSB is crash.
Running 9 x 3xx FSB, 2.6D (Gives 900Mhz on mem with sloppy timings) 5-5-5-18 cant boot
Running 9 x 380 FSB 2.5A 5-5-5-18 gives 950MHZ on mem which can boot.
Running 9 x 460 FSB, 2.0B 5-5-5-18 Runs fine which is the same as 2.0D and tighter timings, But 1 more FSB here also crashes the system, shouldnt that CAS5 give me some headroom if they are the limiting factor?
Do you think Ive hit a FSB wall?
http://www.billedeupload.dk/upload/f...1/f1976066.jpg
http://www.billedeupload.dk/upload/f...1/06226ed2.jpg
Fair point. I am not a videophile, I encode only a few movies per year. BTW I would think the software would have some sort of error checking? guess not :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Songok
I am an audiophile though :)
Congrats Mech0z :up: awesome speed for a Q6600Quote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
Cheers mate :up:
Sergio
could it have something to do with my board being on the older f5 bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
btw i thought setting standard instead of turbo just loosens memory timings? or does it affect mch timings as well like memory strap does?
room temp seems to have an effect on my max fsb so most likely the nb is just getting too hot even at low volts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
Very nice overclock!! Can you post your template please? That FSB will enable me to test the limits on my Micron D9 chips. Thank you very much in advance:)
Anyone got a template for a Q9550 at 471x8.5(4ghz) running 8 gb of ram and is prime stable?
Have anyone got true plus OCZ XTC 2 RAM Cooler on this mobo installed. Does it fit fine or there is some clearance issue due to northbridge heatsink or true ..
possibly - i had instability on the ud3l f4 bios and flashed to f7 and all problems solved:D:D - boots at 471 and 500 everytime - whereas before it would set it's OWN memory speed on me for some reason - can't check right now, but i think the strap i set was 333 and memory 1:1 at 942 with 5-5-5-18 timings;);)Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
at 471 the MCH only needs (on this one) 1.30 and at 500 it seems to need 1.38 - and still it seems to stay cool - although, despite all these UD3 board's strengths i gotta admit a NB sensor would have been nice...:shakes::shakes:
lets hope they include that in the P55 UD3L/UD3R
Hmm I think I burned my UD3P Rev1, do you think a GA-EP45-UD3LR with active cooling on the mosfets and NB? I dont recon I can get it fixed in warrenty (There is nothing visible to see its burned though)
Active cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9...ivecooling.jpg
Well I use fans on mine when I got my Q6600 to 4.194 but I want to RMA this motherboard if I can, just not sure they will fix it ? There was smoke from somewhere around the middle part of the heatpipe.
Will they just return it and say they wont fix it?
that explains a lot, the bios acts very weird, wont boot at 400 fsb and wont boot with memory divider higher than 4:5 even at 333 fsb, so all overclocking has to be done in windows :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
edit: i thought i would try something, so i set the bios back to optimized defaults, goes into endless boot loop. i figure my ram doesnt like 1.9v so i replaced it with my team xtreem 1300s which in the past i couldnt for the life of me get it to work past ddr2-950. it booted just fine.
so i tried 2:3 divider 2.2 vdimm 1.2 mch all other voltages normal and to my surprise it booted! on all other sets of ram that divider was unbootable. on the next reboot i disable c1e, tm2, eist and virtualisation and it goes into another boot loop wtf? i switch it off, turn it back on boots just fine even though it didnt reset bios settings, i go enable virtualisation another boot loop. switch it off, turn back on boots i change multi to 8 boots just fine.
i have been upping fsb in windows and so far ddr2-1155 5-5-5-15 2.2v is stable, will try higher shortly.
as far as fsb limitations go, this is pretty severe. 400x8 2:3 266 strap ddr2-1200 5-5-5-15 pl8 2.2 vdimm 1.2 mch locked up 1 and a half minutes into orthos blend. i expected the memory to run into its limit at these clocks but apparently the mch has run into a wall first. all i can think of is either upping the mch core, mch reference and vdimm just to be sure or prey a different memory divider and strap will work and clock better. right now im just trying to find a divider+strap that will allow for high memory clocks and 450fsb but even that looks like a pipe dream atm :(
edit: tried setting 1.24 mch 0.8 mch ref with et6 locked up on the spot lol. will try 1.3 mch but stock mch ref next.
edit: raising mch core voltage actually causes instant lockup, weird.
edit2: 1200 5-5-5-15 2.2v is definitaly orthos stable but anything higher was a real headache.
1300 5-5-5-15 pl9 was only achieved 2.4 vdimm 1.3 mch 0.8 mch ref and came up with an error just seconds after starting orthos.
http://g.imagehost.org/0941/1300_5-5-5-15_pl9_2_4v.jpg
Just updated my bios to f10j , boots a lot faster and I saw no loss in latency or no gain which is fine .. figured out that G.skill Pi 7200 don't like at all going past 1000mhz at and setting if loosening up the timings so Sergio was right why I couldn't clock any higher it was a ram limitation , so I bought some G.skills 9600
do I set the 1066 setting to 1200 ? and the what about the divider do I set to 240d ? :D
9600PI'S will love the 2:40B divider (1200) and they are good for 1300Mhz+++ speeds with ease...Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_7
that's exactly what happened to me with my former EP45-UD3R...i got the dreaded Gigabyte boot-loop - except for one thing...it never ended...I was totally buggered... after maybe 30 tries it finally would decide to let me in - i gotta mention though this only occured after overclocking or big changes in the bios from the optimized...as a stock computer it boots just fine - which is why I gladly unloaded itQuote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
This UD3L also liked to occasionally get into the loop, but much less frequently - and rarely after overclocking went bad - all I can tell you is try updating/rolling back the bios to one that works - fixed it for me
so what do I care if it's 4 phase and no mof cooling?? - it'll do for 3 months - especially for 100 bucks...:up::up::up:
edit:
oh, and here:
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...6/settings.jpg
thanks
thanks Jor3lBR Im try these setting when I get home do they look right to you dude ? Im a lil lost with this 1200mhz memory :shrug:
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Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ AUTO ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.5GHz............................[ 500 x 9.0]
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cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
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tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ Auto ]
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Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
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Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
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cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.1875 ]...................[ 1.367 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.260 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.886 ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.460 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.901 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 2.160 ]
DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[1.000 ]
Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.000 ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.000 ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
looks like i found my cpus limit, orthos was forced to close a few minutes into orthos at 450x8, luckily i did a sub 13 sec pi 1m time first
http://g.imagehost.org/0513/super_pi_1m.jpg
looks like im wasting my time trying to push any more until i get the courage to try my dice pot just sitting there on a table. 475fsb is flaky at best, 450fsb seems stable at 1:1 and should be stable at 5:6 too. last night i managed to get 475x7 10 minutes orthos stable but cant stabilize it at higher multies, and thats at 1:1 pl10 1.3 vtt and 1.3mch. incase your wondering why the screenshot only shows 2048mb its because i have gone back to my team xtreem 1300s for now.
UGH First day with new G.skills and Im just having a hard time getting them stable at 1200mhz and keeping My proc just 4050 any recommendations guys, Ive tried lots of different settings but none but this one passed intel burn , but this one which is the same as running my old ram at 4 4 4 10 1.1 450 x 9 in bandwidth terms
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7...emem600mhz.png
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7...c/P1010141.jpg
Code:******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
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cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
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tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ Auto ]
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Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
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cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
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New BIOS:
GA-EP45-UD3R - F12
-released 18.Jan 10
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
i just upgraded my GA-EP45-UD3R BIOS from F8 to F12, doing my 24 hour prime 95 test now with E8500 @ 4GHZ
dustin_ds3000 can ya do a latency test , hopefully they didn't make more stable with any timing sacrifices
Also I hopping they fixed this thing with the dual lans knocking out evrytime I turn power off
you got the Quad Extreme and all you're being allowed is 3600MHZ???Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
something's up - board sounds like it suffer's from the finicky-ness my last UD3R had - how bout just raising the multiplier really high????
I coulda sworn Extreme's were unlocked....
I would thought you would have been good for at least 4.5Ghz or even 4.7Ghz...
oh well...
edit: oh, sorry, didn't notice it was C0 - disregard
4.0 should be no problem though...
edit:i gotta quick question:
will too much vtt kill the chip like vcore????
Cause I can seem to get 4.2 stable enough for everyday but it appears to correction: 1.64 vtt for the Prime95 Stability Test
thanks
seems to be stable enough....
am i asking for trouble with the vtt???:shrug::shrug:
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...66/njbjjhj.jpg
thanks
edit: nevermind: think i found the answer here....
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=428
oh well 4.2 was nice - but 4.0 is fine...at least it's up to QX9770 stock speed anyway....
thanks
made a quick bios alteration here....
i should think these voltages would be a little more respectable....
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...k666/tittt.jpg
edit2:
i dunno after reading this technical note I think 4.0ghz is more than enough considering I'm getting more than QX9770 stock performance here...
i dunno, you may disagree, but kinda makes 1.64 vtt seem kinda scary...similar to high pllQuote:
Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9000 Series and Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9000 Series Datasheet (Document Number: 318726-003) was first published in March 2008. Section 2, Electrical Specifications, Subsection 2.6, Voltage and Current Specifications, Table 2-2, titled Absolute Minimum and Maximum Ratings, specifies absolute maximum and minimum ratings for this series of processors. It’s important to note that these values lie outside the functional limits of these processors (i.e. they may not be indicative of warranted operating voltages but are rather intended to serve as warning to those that would run their processors above rated specifications).
Table 2-2 shows maximum voltages for both VTT (FSB Termination Voltage) and VCC (Vcore) with respect to VSS (the processor power ground plane voltage, a.k.a. “ground”). In this case they happen to be equal in magnitude – 1.45V. If anything, this suggests that the use of high VTT voltages can be potentially as damaging, if not more so, than the sustained application of Vcore voltages above this same voltage yet many users continue to operate under the assumption that excessive VTT voltages should be less concerning than higher Vcore voltages.
here is the latency testQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_7
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...Untitled-1.jpg
did manage this though-although it looks like the vtt might be killer...
though not bad for a UD3L i figure....
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...66/fgdfggg.jpg
This P45-UD3R F12 bios seems to be defective, at least on my Windows system.
System would BSOD when booting XP-32 bit (on Intel Raid 0), while Windows 7 64-bit (on a single drive) booted fine.
Even a fresh install of XP 32-bit BSOD'd during installation.
Have now re-flashed back to F11, and all is working again.
found some Prime-stability at 4.2 ghz, but I had to really jack up the northbridge - jesus
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q.../stability.jpg
edit:
managed to get the vcore down along with the northbridge a bit and still have some stability - but there doesn't seem to be any way around that vtt issue...
oh well...I guess this is what it takes...
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...fsdsdfsdfd.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
I have mine stable at these settings.
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CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
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PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
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CPU Clock Drive.......................: [1000mV]
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MCH Frequency................: 333
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(All Auto here)
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(All Auto in Between)
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>>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
x Driving Strength Profile............: [1200MHz]
(All Auto in Between)
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x Static tRead Value............. (8)
(All Auto in Between)
x DDR Write Training..................: Disabled
>>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
x Driving Strength Profile............: [1200MHz]
(All Auto in Between)
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-----------------------------------------------
>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
CPU Vcore.....................: [1.37500V] Actual Idle [1.344] Actual Load [1.328]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.420V]
CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.570V]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [.939]
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MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.52V]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [.899]
MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [.970]
ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.500V]
ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.00V]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [.850]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
(All CPU Features Turned Off)
that's similar to what i've been trying, but I keep running into the wrong references....
i'll try exactly what you did as much as i can on this ud3l and see if it allows me to lower anything like the termination for instance...
thanks:cool::cool::cool:
edit: i tried those settings and it gets me into windows, but i get an error about 15 seconds into the stress test...
I'll have to fiddle with the numbers some more..cause i seem to got it stable a few posts ago, but i'd like to keep the vtt down... the northbridge i really don't care about... but according to the intel document i got up to about 1.45 for both the vcore and the vtt before they "guaranty severe degredation..."
that's all folks
thanks
edit: well i gotta admit, your settings work mate, but any deviation from them and i'm instantly buggered....
:(:(:(
oh well, thanks
there is a perfectly logical reason why it stops at 3.6ghz, its on the stock cooler atm and gets to 70c. i was told by the previous owner this exact same chip went to 3.8ghz on a thermalright ultra extreme at a good 25-30c cooler at load than what im running at, so im not surprised its only 1m stable at 3.6. im assuming 4.5 should be a cakewalk with dice and with a lot of luck 5ghz might be possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
that's kind of more what i was hoping to hear...thanks :up::up::up:
well that's enough for now...looks like i'm settling for 4.0 ghz...
there's too many variables to justify that extra 200mhz...if I want the 4.2 or 4.5 speed i'll go for the Q9650 or the QX9650 later
but for now, though, whippin the ass of a QX9770 at stock is more than good enough for me...
it may be time for the T2RSB Plus o mine to make an appearance...
i've heard some users here managed 500 fsb stable on various quads with the LanParty series of boards...
but first I wanna try the UD3P - that was the Gigabyte P45 I originally wanted...and maybe just for kicks a cheap Q8400 or possibly the Q9650....if newegg ever get's any more in..
but for now 4.0ghz Quad is plenty to be grateful for...:up::up::up:
decided not to give up after all:
I finally got it stable enough to use at 4.2ghz with better voltages...:clap::clap::clap:
it took a combination of all the suggestions and something else I found...
christ!! that was simply horrendous....:eek::eek::eek:
oh well...
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq43/davk666/fun.jpg
enjoy
On mine if I bounce my CPU Ref around a little "up a few notches down a few notches then back to what ever middle point I pick" and keep booting in to Windows and testing with IntelBurnTest, I eventually find the middle spot that my CPU likes. That is the whole trick to getting my settings stable. After I do that if I never go back in to the BIOS and mess with anything my system stays 100% stable.
This board is kind of weird the way it does that but, it is reproducable so.. it's a fact that it works for me.. I've been on these settings for a long time now. I think there's allot of variation between CPUs and North Bridges as well so you have to take that in to consideration when going off other peoples BIOS settings. Any way with all that being said glad I could help a little.
now im going for 24/7 stable that will boot out of the bios, right now on 400x8.5 1:1 3-3-3-8-33 pl7.guess i should try for 425x8 out of the bios but i dont know if i will be able to keep the 3-3-3-8 timings or the pl7 and while it will clock far in windows it doesnt seem to like booting from high fsb.
i dont suppose anyone has a template for ddr2-1300 with micron d9 and a ud3 series board, preferably on the 5:8 divider? there must be something im missing. 1200 5-5-5-15 2.2v is stable but im hitting a brick wall in the high 1200s. 1300 5-5-5-15 pl9 2.4 vdimm 1.3 mch 0.8 mch ref errors just seconds into orthos and trying 6-6-6-18 pl10 had no effect on stability. i havent touched any of the drive strength or clock skew settings, maybe thats the key?
I had a similar problem when benching. My reapers didn't benefit from any looser timings at anything over 1296MHz 5-6-5-15. One thing that did help was to run 5-6-6-18 which got me benchable at 1300+, but it didn't like 6-6-6-18 at the same settings. Maybe worth a shot if you haven#t tried already ;)
Got some bad news :mad:
My tx850 power supply just died yesterday !! And damn was really looking forward to pushing those g skill 9600s but now im also finding out that the revision of this board which I have 1.1 doesn't like a lot of dividers so its may not reach the oc I want :( but good news is I bought a hx850 for the meantime which will good future proofing
you can try mine.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
Code:*****Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.5 ]
CPU Frequency 3.6GHz............................[ 510 x 8.5 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 510 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2 [Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 1000mv]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Auto ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 266 ]
System Memory Multiplier........................[ 2.50A ]
Memory Frequency ..............1066.............1275
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
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tWR............................[ 6 ]..........[ Auto ]
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there are more settings in there that i know wont work for me than i can count. i have given up on getting high memory speeds because my board really doesnt like straps other than 333, that and the max fsb of 450 the only way to get ddr2-1200+ is with the 5:8 divider and being limited to 400fsb is not a good thing.
im going for raw fsb numbers now, 450x7 is orthos stable at just 1.2 mch 1:1 4-4-4-12 pl10. 475fsb still locks up in orthos 1.3vtt 1.3mch 1:1. tried 1.34vvt and pl12, no luck. but the one thing which stabilized it at 475fsb in the past was mch ref i believe. im not game to raise mch core higher than 1.3 even for benching, as it is at 1.2 mch the northbridge heatsink actually heats up the memory stick in slot one, but not the one in slot 3 of course :shocked:
I run mine at 1.52 and it's fine with a fan facing on the it and the memory. I think you are being to scared here. You need to stick a little fan in there facing right towards it and the memory and crank up the voltage some. Take off the heatsink shield crap to while your at it otherwise you will be just spinning your wheels.. While I'm schooling here you need to make sure that your CPU Mosfets right above and on the side on the CPU socket aren't getting hot enought to cook your finger while you are at it because they will get that hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
that's what i was thinking...
I used to give my T2RSB Plus X48 Northbridge 1.52-1.72 and it never gave me any guff...and it's stil alive and kicking today - in fact i'm going back to it tomorrow...
for my 4.2 the other day I just accepted that it takes a modest 1.56 v on the northbridge to keep it stable for that speed with no errors... just make sure theres some sort of fan on it...
i don't know about the mosfets or mofsets or what ever their called but i don't expect much for a $100.00 board...
if they go I'm afraid them's the breaks....
turns out 450x7 5:6 pl9 boots just fine and is orthos stable, apparently there is a fsb hole at 400fsb exactly so it wont boot at 400fsb unless its 1:1. i suspect setting 400fsb and a setting other than 1:1 changes one of the subtimings to something that simply doesnt work, possibly tref. 400 1:1=3200t=stable so perhaps 400 5:6=2600t or 2080t=no boot, who knows, maybe 400fsb and divider other than 1:1 sets it to 1t lol. i know i can safely use much higher mch core if the nb was cool, but it gets burning hot to the point where it actually heats up parts around it.
case is an aluminium coolermaster cosmos s, 1x 120mm front intake 1x230mm side intake 1x120mm rear exhaust 3x120mm top exhaust.
btw for 1.24 mch whats the best mch ref? 0.8?
what do you mean by heatsink shield? im confused.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
Again and I mean nothing but respect here.. Put a fan on it.. You are killing your memory and mother boards life span by not putting a fan on it.
@Gameman,
Glad to see you got that 4.2 you were aiming for, hope my settings helped you a little.:up:
i do have a spare 120mm case fan but nowhere to plug it into, i would have to unplug the 230mm low speed side fan that came with the case. any tips on how to position a 120mm case fan inside an upright case so it covers northbridge and preferably ram as well? pics would help. keep in mind the crappy nb hs that comes with the ud3lr will limit the effectiveness of active cooling.
perhaps im overreacting, while the northbridge heatsink is definitaly the hottest part of my rig i can actually touch, at no point has it ever been hot enough to burn a finger even over time.
ironically the stock intel hs is actually keeping the mosfets somewhat cool, not as cool as the memory but not as hot as the nb hs either. i wont have that advantage when i get the guts to try my koolance dice pot though.
Yes, I know it's dusty and I'll be cleaning it tomorrow. I have two cats and a dog :p:. Notice the little fan on the mosfets right above the CPU. When I touched that heat sink after testing with intelburntest it was hot enough to almost burn my finger.
I put that fan on there and the problem was solved. I was also having random lock up issues before, I put that fan on there I will add.. Notice how I put a piece of cut cardboard on top of the screws for the heat sink on my video card and even put a piece of velcro tape to help hold the fan in place :rofl:. That my friend is called improvising. :up:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5746/1013905v.jpg
anyway i think i have found a 24/7 setting im happy with
http://g.imagehost.org/0114/orthos_stable.jpg
pl8 1.24 mch core 0.8 mch ref 2.2 vdimm all other voltages normal. i could have left mch core at 1.2 and mch ref at stock but i know from past experience that would put it at the edge of stability and i dont want to risk getting a lockup after say 1 hour of gaming. pitty i couldnt stabilize 1080 4-4-4-12 with a reasonable voltage so stuck at 1080 5-5-5-15 2.2v even though im using team xtreem 1300s :/
so when i get to trying dry ice benching with unlocked multi is it as simple as raising cpu vcore, cpu multi and vtt or am i being naive?
edit: i almost forgot, by default its booting with read to write delay, also known as trd_wr at 9 instead of 8 which is affecting bandwidth numbers considerably and i had to set it to 8 with memset.is there a setting in bios to get it to boot at 8 instead?
No, seriously they did...I'm using a combo of a few of your settings along with what I found to be comfortable voltages and it seems to be cool enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
I'm coming from an E8600, so I'm used to SPEED, and 4.2 is in the E8600 range...but I wanted the extra cores and 12mb cache for Photoshop and virus scanning while working, not to mention shaving a few moments off of my XviD encoding time for my DVD collection... so i think it was a smart very reasonable 300 dollar investment.. I just would like to have it running at somewhat safe settings and still last a year or two if I needed it....
the motherboard, I don't care so much about though...I have the T2RSB Plus sitting by and to replace a Gigabyte p45 ain't all that much...
just manage4d 4.3 ghz stable enough for everyday use...but things are getting kinda hot now - cpu is at 50 idle - I can definitely see the case for h2o cooling...
may keep this may not... I haven't decided...or i may just grab a QX9650/Q9650 and go all the way to 4.5...
I imagine the q9650 would probably be better because of the E0 stepping????
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...6/TYYTYTYT.jpg
anyways thanks
Very nice result, although I'd back down with the voltages, specially CPU PLL and VTT. You risk killing your chip.
thanks...:up::up::up:
i'm gonna have to work on this over the next few days....
but it's looking like the Q9650 for me next...:clap::clap::clap:
got it down a little bit - but haven't given it any kind o load though....will see though....
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q...6/improved.jpg
edit:still more though this is probably about as low as i can go...i'm surprised i even got in...
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/q.../mlkklklkl.jpg
oh well...thanks
enjoy.......
Your welcome and my Q9550 is an EO stepping and so is yours. Look at your screen shot with CPUZ listed above, it tells you the stepping you have. Fact is that a Q9650 would be just as hot, it just gets hot at these speeds. I run 32C Idle with my water cooling setup and 65C full load with Prime95, 78C full load Intel Burntest.
my board used to be able to do 1200+mem speeds together with 450+fsb on the 3:4 divider 400 strap. used to get read, write and copy speeds all in the high 9s as well as latency in the low 50s. one day it wouldnt boot, this was a few weeks ago. since then it refuses to boot 3:4 400 strap no matter what i do :(
Just curious, did you guys have to raise vNB or anything else going from 2x2gb to 4x2gb of DDR2?
well there's definite proof now that these UD3 boards are indeed special....
I tried giving the ol X48 T2RSB Plus a try with the Q9550 and the best it could manage was 450 fsb for 3.6 ghz...considering what i've been benching on this cheap 100.00 UD3L I consider that a thorough and complete embarrassment...
Especially for the great X48 chipset... I gotta say, that was pretty sad...:(:(:(
wel, needless to say i'm gonna be unloading it again cause the only thing that even had a hope of reaching 4.0 ghz would be the Q9650 - the most expensive one....Although I am tempted to try the Blood Iron p45 T2RS Elite with a Quad , even though it seems to be non-existant at the moment in Canada...
I tell ya, when a sub 100.00 board can whip the ass of a 250.00 board...that's pretty sad....
oh well...it's safe to say my next board will be a UD3P instead of the T2RS Elite i was thinking of...
:clap::clap::clap:
Your performance level is the problem perhaps? I don't know what to set that strap to so..Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
looks like i still have a screenshot from my best everest bench at the time
http://g.imagehost.org/0585/1248_5-5...468fsb_pl8.jpg
from what i remember that was a suicide screen, as 468fsb pl8 ddr2-1248 was a bit much for the mch at only 1.2v
edit: its alive! 3:4 400 strap 425fsb pl9 is booting
windows 7 64bit
my best 24/7 setting so far and most likely the last for my current setup.
http://g.imagehost.org/0802/orthos_stable.jpg
again pl8 1.24 mch 0.8 mch ref 2.2 vdimm orthos stable
by orthos stable that means i ran orthos blend for 20 minutes then stopped it manually. it passed 1024k 16 minutes in and im certain the cpu is stable at 3.375ghz so i dont think there is any need to make sure 8k passes. it can play any game at this setting for hours on end so im happy.
i swear 0.8 mch ref is performing magic on this setup even at this low mch core voltage.
as you can see the 400 strap has cancelled out the write speed benefits from the added memory speed, but read speed has gone up 300 and copy has gone up 200 and even surpassed the write speed. latency has gone down 2 1/2 ns as well.
at least now my memory is actually doing something rather than running at a speed and latency even 2gb hynix sticks can do lol.
anyone else find it interesting that 3:4 400 strap has the same max fsb as 5:6 333 strap? 400 strap seems to do wonders for max fsb.
could prove useful to anyone trying for ddr2-1200 450fsb or even ddr2-1333 500 fsb if the memory and board is capable.
i have tried 3:4 200 strap in the past, latency is great but max fsb drops by 30. 266 strap both 4:5 and especially 2:3 doesnt like to scale, and in the case of 2:3 actually becomes more unstable at higher mch voltage.
im happy with the performance im getting atm, but does anyone think its weird that i have 3 kits of memory, none of which can do its rated speed on this board?
2x1gb crucial ballistix pc2-6400(fatbodies) have done ddr2-933 4-3-3-10 2.4v on a p35 ds3p, wont work at anything past ddr2-780 even when clocking in windows on this board, just short of its rated ddr2-800
2x2gb ocz flex ex pc2-9600 (hynix) only boots with 5:6, 4:5 and 1:1 that and 450fsb limitation the rated ddr2-1200 is impossible.
2x1gb team xtreem pc2-10400 (micron d9) clocks high with 5:8 divider, but at its rated speed, timings and voltage (ddr2 1300 6-6-6-18 2.35-2.45v) its only suicide screen stable.
just curious, what do you consider to be suicide????Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
I managed 4.3 and am debating whether to pump 1.40vcore and 1.35 through the ram along with 1.48 vtt and 1.75 pll?????...
peoples opinions may differ on this one...
I have had several 45 nm chips and always gave em 1.54,1.45, 1.42 etc and never lost one...even a Quad once and no death to speak of...
or are we talking like dry ice or ln2 here????
thanks:up::up::up:
My memory does its rated speeds on this board just fine?
Likewise for me too, The dominator GT's I had reached 1120, my chaintech apogee's reach ~1170 and my reapers hit ~1296 - all with PL9 and 1.4vnb max. My board undervolts ram by about 0.2v, maybe the board undervolting could be an issue?
0.8 mch ref is good for me too, along with 0.785 cpu ref, but when going for higher vtt / fsb I had to lower them both down to 0.76.
I personally think that your UD3LR just might be struggling a little and might need more tuning. I assume you've tinkered with CPU/NB skews & CPU/PCI clock drives? These can make a crucial difference if they're off, and can vary from board to board.
imo suicide screen means having to set the clock in windows, it does not lockup, bluescreen or reboot but at the same time you cant really do anything with it other than run everest or get into cpu-z. super pi 1m might have been possible but i didnt try it at the time. orthos errors in a matter of seconds, not minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
imo there are 5 levels of stability:
suicide screen
super pi 1m
bench stable (being able to get through any version of 3dmark)
game stable
24/7 stable
edit: assuming everything is running cool i always thought 1.4 vcore is the "safe" limit for 24/7 usage and 1.5v+ is the realm of sub zero benching :shrug: and i dont think raising pll that high is such a good idea, i think high pll kills chips faster than high vcore and high vtt combined.
edit2: i plan on dry ice in the future, if i want to achieve say 4.5ghz by just raising the multi is it really as simple as just raising the multi from 7.5 to 10 and raising vcore to 1.4? or is there other things i have to worry about? i guess vtt cant be to far away from vcore but other than that raising the multi while the chip is under subzero shouldnt make the mch or ram unstable?
very good...thanks
may try th QX9650 next since it can be found for th Q9650 price these days....:shrug::shrug::shrug:
I like the idea of unlocked multiplier....:bounces::cord:
i woudn't mate...QX9650 are severe damaged by VTT, Q9650 can handle lotta punishment...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman
ok then thanks...newegg.ca just got some more in
is it something to do with e0 chips surviving up to 1.6 vtt on p45 mobos while c0 chips degrade past 1.35 vtt? or am i mistaken?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
edit: whenever my board coldboots with a strap other than 333 it rapidly starts up, shuts down then successfully boots every time, is that normal?
i honestly dont know what im doing when it comes to cpu/nb skews and cpu/pci clock drives, so i leave them alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by In-Fluence
edit: bad news, got a lockup after a couple hours of tf2, it is a hot summer afternoon though and it was fine running 4 hours of tf2 this morning.
I would just test to find the best ones for your setup. Lower your fsb a few notches until it's a a few minutes orthos stable, and leave the clock drives at 800,900, and try to tweak your skews - they DO help when increasing the fsb! First try 0,50, then 50,50, then 50,100 then 100,100, and keep moving up like that until you find your most stable point (going beyond 250,250 is likely to get worse again, so not many to test.. 2 or 3 settings might work well for you but try to pick out the best one.
Let us know how you get on ;)
is this for real ??? cause that would yield a lot of leeway:shrug::shrug::shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
I could probably get 4.7-5.0 ghz on the Q9650 - my likely next chip...
I just wish they made a REGULAR Q9770 with E0 stepping....that would be sweet starting at 3.2 ghz and 400 fsb - it would basically be a Quad-Core E8600... 4.5 ghz would be no problem...:rolleyes:
X3380 is e0 but it's rather expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameman