ASUS Maximus Formula SE

For those who have had an X38 formula and damaged it removing the heatsinks read on there might be something a bit special on the horizon ;)

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1

I fell another mega thread starting already. Dang ASUS!!!LOL!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Malik

Guys tell me which bios is the best ?

Now i have 0802 and one thing irritate me ... temps of my e8400. In idle are 47/48 ( core 1 and core 2 ) !?!?! So i wonder is that problem with bios or something else.

---

Try 907 - it brings the cpu temps back to normal. Always use Everest or CoreTemp because temperatures of individual cores sometimes differ much from the cpu temp (as in Everest compared to BIOS). By the way, how is the new pump?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nowakjan2000

Try 907 - it brings the cpu temps back to normal. Always use Everest or CoreTemp because temperatures of individual cores sometimes differ much from the cpu temp (as in Everest compared to BIOS). By the way, how is the new pump?

---

I heard that 0907 sucks, people have a lot of problems with this bios version.

PS.
Old pump back - because is better :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vegettoxp

Hello there guys, I too have joined the Asus Maximus SE Club and now it time for me to decide what Ram sticks I should get this board. The board supports up to 8GB of Ram and I plan to Put 2GB Per Slot. So now the question is, What Ram Sticks do you guys Recommend me Buying?

I have the Asus Maximus Formula (Special Edition) Dual-channel DDR2 1200*/1066 MHz Support. DDR2 SDRAM Frequencies: PC2-5300, PC2-6400 and PC2-8500.

Also if my Motherboard Supports 1333MHz and 1600MHz (Unofficialy), How does that link to my memory Frequencies. I guess what I am asking is can I go higher then PC2-8500 and what will be my higgest point. But I am pretty sure that once I read your guys recommendations, I will have a clear idea of what Memory Stick I should get.

So if you guys can help me out, that would really help me out on Which Brand/Stick I should get. Thx for all your help guys!

P.S. Fusion

---

What CPU do you have? What power supply? What GPU?, The I can give you more educated suggestion rather than just an of the wal answer.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Malik

I heard that 0907 sucks, people have a lot of problems with this bios version.

PS.
Old pump back - because is better :)

---

I run 907 and its the best so imo
901 and 903 were :banana::banana::banana::banana:e for me the only other bios I had results with was 802

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Malik

I heard that 0907 sucks, people have a lot of problems with this bios version.

PS.
Old pump back - because is better :)

---

What sucks on these board is that Asus uses a thickass thermal conducting tape, and paste under both NB and SB Fusion block and cooler, to top it off the SB cooling is linked from under the NB fusion block, so the NB gets a lot of thermal cooling resistance. I took my imitation copper of and used Koolance blocks with a microthin layer of themal paste, just enough to fill in any micro inperfectiond, and I got down to 26°c. Check my pic.

Thx for the input guys! So far I guess the recomendations are G-Skill and Ballistix!

Ballistix 8500 would be me choice, cheap and good ram.

can anyone get this 4:5 divider working I wanna go 400FSB with 1000mhz on the ram, doesn't post, do I really need to relax transaction booster and co to get it booting ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Took my ram to 570mhz w/ FSB @ 475, fully stable, 400mhz FSB strap.

Typically, DET DRAM is chipset volts, ram set to high, or divider issue. Play with settings some more.

---

475FSB~570 DRAM = 5:6 Divider or 333 FSB Strap

475FSB~633 DRAM = 3:4 Divider or 400 FSB Strap

333Straps 1:1, 5:6 and 5:8
400Straps 1:1 and 3:4

DETDRAM to include:
-Vdimm defaults to 1.9v - Too Low for highend RAM
-Try DRAM Static Control: Disabled
-Try Always set to 2T
-Try Manually set CPU Ratio in Advanced CPU where CPU related functions like Excecute Disable Bit are located.
-Try NB and VDIMM slight increase, 1066 is still taxing the NB.

Hello guys , my system were running stock fine , then I did some overclocking , it does not boot up , I hit the clear cmos button on back several time and still don't boot ,

LCD poster stuck at DET DRAM , someone help please ??

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by .OCX

475FSB~570 DRAM = 5:6 Divider or 333 FSB Strap

475FSB~633 DRAM = 3:4 Divider or 400 FSB Strap

333Straps 1:1, 5:6 and 5:8
400Straps 1:1 and 3:4

DETDRAM to include:
-Vdimm defaults to 1.9v - Too Low for highend RAM
-Try DRAM Static Control: Disabled
-Try Always set to 2T
-Try Manually set CPU Ratio in Advanced CPU where CPU related functions like Excecute Disable Bit are located.
-Try NB and VDIMM slight increase, 1066 is still taxing the NB.

---

Yeah posting just before 6am isn't always the best idea ;) All good ideas.

@icecpu,

Power dowm by turning off your poewr supply, unplug it for a few seconds, hit your Clear Cmos botton then plug your power back and power up your system.

When your in your bios all your settings should be default again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Scooby

@icecpu,

Power dowm by turning off your poewr supply, unplug it for a few seconds, hit your Clear Cmos botton then plug your power back and power up your system.

When your in your bios all your settings should be default again.

---

I did exactly the same and still no go

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by icecpu

I did exactly the same and still no go

---

9/10 times it's transaction booster

400 strap set to enabled relax level 0
333 strap set to disable relax level 0
You may need to set Dram Static to Auto

If you get the DET RAM hang its usally just a matter of finding the right Trans Booster setting
No need to clear cmos and certainly no need to power down and wait the bios is just fussy kinda like a woman :rofl:

I just put in different ram and it boot up and now testing 4Ghz (450X9) Prime stable for 1 HR so far , by the way Vcore for E8400 is set 1.39 in bios

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

9/10 times it's transaction booster

400 strap set to enabled relax level 0
333 strap set to disable relax level 0
You may need to set Dram Static to Auto

If you get the DET RAM hang its usally just a matter of finding the right Trans Booster setting
No need to clear cmos and certainly no need to power down and wait the bios is just fussy kinda like a woman :rofl:

---

And once again: This should be within the first post, please!

True I second that :up:

Wrong thread, but I've added it to the start of mine.

Yea ofc your thread I ment ;)

Found my E8400 24/7 settings

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/4300MHz.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...147ram4300.png
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...15h59-CPU1.png

just short of 3 hours now for Prime95 blend test and still running :up:

Let's see some benches :)

Max fsb for now.
Not stable.
Still testing and waiting for a god damn bios.
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/ebz1zx82emj3flmkpfu5.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by FZ1

Let's see some benches :)

---

I'll toss some 3DMark's up after prime is done in a few hours

Anyone sucessfully boot up using E8400 and not using Bios 907? thanks

Offtopic.
Grnfinger what gadget are you using to display the Everest info?

@ Grnfinger
Can you share your bios setting to get 4.3Ghz
I got almost the same setup as you but BSOD right after windows is loading when go beyond 450fsb
Max I got stable so far is 4.0Ghz (450X9) vcore 1.39

I don`t get 3,8Ghz stable with my E6750.
500x7 is stable with 1,29VNB 1,20VFSB and 1,337VCore (Biossettings).
450x8 is stable with 1,25VNB 1,20VFSB and 1,325VCore.
Using ram @ 1200 and 2,14V in Bios for both settings, stable. Tested settings with OCCT slider at cpu, middle and ram for over 10hours each without errors.

Now I tried 475x8 with ram @ 1141Mhz(2,14V) using 1,425VCore first.
With 1,29VNB and 1,20VFSB I get an error after about 2hours with slider at ram.
With 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB I get an error after about 2hours with slider at ram.
With 1,27VNB and 1,20VFSB the system restarted itself after 5hours OCCT (slider ram).
I don`t get this, exspecially(?) if you take a look at stable setting for 500x7 and 450x8!?
Any Ideas?
Edit: I`m using TB disabled relax0 and AI moderate like I do for 1200Mhz within 333strap. Tighter TB or AI settings won`t boot, I guess, this both settings aren`t the problem.

Hi espiso, it could be that higher multi is more demanding, eventho u are on a dual core, the volts u are giving on the NBv and fsbv are very low @ 475fsb, I should pump a few notches more.. try that first. It could be that 7x multi was less demanding, could be a divider issue.

4300 478x9 BIOS 907
15 hours Prime stable


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3875 ( will work on lowering that)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...4300prime1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...00_1147ram.png

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mc2k

Hi espiso, it could be that higher multi is more demanding, eventho u are on a dual core, the volts u are giving on the NBv and fsbv are very low @ 475fsb, I should pump a few notches more.. try that first. It could be that 7x multi was less demanding, could be a divider issue.

---

But 500FSB and 1200 ram 333 strap is stable with 1,29VNB and 1,20VFSB, tested OCCT cpu, middle and ram for over 10h each.
And 450 (multi 8) and 1200ram 333 strap is stable with 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB!?
That doesn`t make sense for me.

I am stuck trying to get my OS and RAID set up correctly.

Please come and help!! :)

I am monitoring this thread for some kind sole to help me out...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=166867&page=3

Hey guys my temps went up 4 degrees in the last 2 days any ideas why,i'm on wc.
TY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

But 500FSB and 1200 ram 333 strap is stable with 1,29VNB and 1,20VFSB, tested OCCT cpu, middle and ram for over 10h each.
And 450 (multi 8) and 1200ram 333 strap is stable with 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB!?
That doesn`t make sense for me.

---

I know there are more things that doesnt makes sense to me from this board like the prime issue i got, but back to your issue, 500fsb is with 7x multiplier right, well It could be like I mentioned it was less demanding then 8x multiplier, and did u already try upping the volts? try for example: fsbv: 1.40 and NBv: 1.47/1.49, this isnt much at all even for dual cores at that fsb. I will get my E8500 in a few days and I will try it out at those fsb.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mc2k

I know there are more things that doesnt makes sense to me from this board like the prime issue i got, but back to your issue, 500fsb is with 7x multiplier right, well It could be like I mentioned it was less demanding then 8x multiplier, and did u already try upping the volts? try for example: fsbv: 1.40 and NBv: 1.47/1.49, this isnt much at all even for dual cores at that fsb. I will get my E8500 in a few days and I will try it out at those fsb.

---

If I go above 1,29VNB system won`t boot or shows instability after a very short time of testing. Same thing happens when I put VFSB only a bit higher, 1,30 f.e.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

I think it should fit. I only have the one fan

---

it fits
it dropped my nb temp 7c from 64 to 57
not that it was unstable or anything to begin with

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=388920

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

But 500FSB and 1200 ram 333 strap is stable with 1,29VNB and 1,20VFSB, tested OCCT cpu, middle and ram for over 10h each.
And 450 (multi 8) and 1200ram 333 strap is stable with 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB!?
That doesn`t make sense for me.

---

I would check Performance level of ram using Memset. Probably find your TRd is 8 for 450 and 500 but at 475 it is 7 (due to different ram divider). Guessing but worth a check. Lower TRd = higher voltage for the north bridge.

The anandtech article is really good at explaining why some configurations require a much higher north bridge voltage. Remember the main component of the north bridge is the memory controller.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Aurhinius

I would check Performance level of ram using Memset. Probably find your TRd is 8 for 450 and 500 but at 475 it is 7 (due to different ram divider). Guessing but worth a check. Lower TRd = higher voltage for the north bridge.

The anandtech article is really good at explaining why some configurations require a much higher north bridge voltage. Remember the main component of the north bridge is the memory controller.

---

The Anhandtech article could be very good, but it`s hard for me to understand the text completly. I am german and my english isn`t good enough, that would be much work for me to get it understanded.(?)
I can try changing TB level, but I don`t think, that ram will boot then. My ram only works fine with only one TB setting, for example:
1200Mhz Strap 333 needs TB disabled relax1, ALL other settings TB won`t boot.
And 1200Mhz Strap 400 needs TB enabled boost0, ALL other settings TB won`t boot.
Thank you for your help anyway :yepp:

Hey Guys, I have a really strange issue that hopefully someone can help me with.

The problem started last night where after running the system for over 3 weeks completely stable, it just rebooted and the board flashed my bios to 0602. I was previously on 0903 and didn't realize the board flashed the bios, so the system was completely instable afterwards. I flashed the bios to 0907, played some cod4, everything seemed ok. Then I decided to run prime overnight and this morning I found the system to have rebooted with the bios flashed back to 0602.

What would be some reasons for the instability to happen all of a sudden??

Here are my settings:

FSB:450
Mulitplier:8
vcore: 1.39
vpll: 1.6
Boot Strap: 333mhz
Dram: 1086 @ 5-5-5-15
command: 2T
Vfsbt: 1.52
vnb: 1.63 (using 4gig of ballistix 8500)
vdram: 2.13
transaction booster: disabled
dram static read: enabled

My previous settings when it was 3+ weeks stable was the same as above but with a vdram of 2.04 (2.1 actual).

I'm just looking for a few suggestions to try tonight, since I'm at work atm..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pphx459

Hey Guys, I have a really strange issue that hopefully someone can help me with.

The problem started last night where after running the system for over 3 weeks completely stable, it just rebooted and the board flashed my bios to 0602. I was previously on 0903 and didn't realize the board flashed the bios, so the system was completely instable afterwards. I flashed the bios to 0907, played some cod4, everything seemed ok. Then I decided to run prime overnight and this morning I found the system to have rebooted with the bios flashed back to 0602.

What would be some reasons for the instability to happen all of a sudden??

Here are my settings:

FSB:450
Mulitplier:8
vcore: 1.39
vpll: 1.6
Boot Strap: 333mhz
Dram: 1086 @ 5-5-5-15
command: 2T
Vfsbt: 1.52
vnb: 1.63 (using 4gig of ballistix 8500)
vdram: 2.13
transaction booster: disabled
dram static read: enabled

My previous settings when it was 3+ weeks stable was the same as above but with a vdram of 2.04 (2.1 actual).

I'm just looking for a few suggestions to try tonight, since I'm at work atm..

---

The board flashed bios 0602 alone??? Sure!? You did nothing?
If you are right, :ROTF:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pphx459

Hey Guys, I have a really strange issue that hopefully someone can help me with.

The problem started last night where after running the system for over 3 weeks completely stable, it just rebooted and the board flashed my bios to 0602. I was previously on 0903 and didn't realize the board flashed the bios, so the system was completely instable afterwards. I flashed the bios to 0907, played some cod4, everything seemed ok. Then I decided to run prime overnight and this morning I found the system to have rebooted with the bios flashed back to 0602.

What would be some reasons for the instability to happen all of a sudden??

Here are my settings:

FSB:450
Mulitplier:8
vcore: 1.39
vpll: 1.6
Boot Strap: 333mhz
Dram: 1086 @ 5-5-5-15
command: 2T
Vfsbt: 1.52
vnb: 1.63 (using 4gig of ballistix 8500)
vdram: 2.13
transaction booster: disabled
dram static read: enabled

My previous settings when it was 3+ weeks stable was the same as above but with a vdram of 2.04 (2.1 actual).

I'm just looking for a few suggestions to try tonight, since I'm at work atm..

---

This is impossible , sorry but did u smoked sumtin ? :rofl:

Yea man, not joking, but that's part of the features of teh board.

I'm looking for suggestions on why the instability happened in the first place.

hmm odd m8, I have never seen this. But like I said, this board is abit weird, I for example got the Prime95 issue, when going past 1.40vcore... and I dont see peeps with this prob...

how'd you flash 907?

I used the Ez Flash in the bios, but I changed all the settings to default first. That's what I used to flash to 0903 from 05?? when I first got the board..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pphx459

Yea man, not joking, but that's part of the features of teh board.

I'm looking for suggestions on why the instability happened in the first place.

---

What exactly is this feature you speak of?
I have some really excellent weed and it wont make my board flash to a previous bios.
Perhaps you need to call some sort of rehab facility?

Really tho all kidding aside maybe a call to Asus and report this rare occurance to them, maybe they can perform an exorcist on the board:rofl:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

What exactly is this feature you speak of?
I have some really excellent weed and it wont make my board flash to a previous bios.

---

Perhaps, your weed isn`t good enough and he has the powerweed at all :ROTF:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

Perhaps, your weed isn`t good enough and he has the powerweed at all :ROTF:

---

:ROTF: :rofl:

LOL - Figured out the issue, bro had swapped out the freakin board to a new one!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pphx459

I thought I read somewhere that if the bios fails from an overclock, it'll attempt to load the bios that is on the install CD, Maximus.ROM i believe.

The bios was definitely rolled back to 0602 and all my settings were screwed up. I'll tell you the exact message next time when it does this.

---

But you said, that you made nothing, the board did it alone. The question for me is: How did the board get the CD in the drive? :confused: :rolleyes:

Poltergeist!!

keep an eye out there very crafty:eek:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Poltergeist!!

keep an eye out there very crafty:eek:

---

Mine; When't UP! To (bios 1011).

Anyone know why im not booting up and getting "COUNTMEM" on the lcd poster?

Basically have to power down go into the bios and exit & save (with actually changing any settings) for it to boot up.

have a very weird problem with Crucial Ballistix Tracer memories, and Crucial Ballistix (non-tracers). I have 4 of each kind (Tracer and non-Tracer).
On Maximus Formula I wasn't able to install all 4 of them.. NEVER ! Tracers or non-Tracers.. If I use 4 dimms then the motherboard doesn't post.
However, the memories work fine on other ASUS X38 board, P5E WS Professional.

On Maximus Formula even dual-channel doesn't work as it should work (I mean dimms 1+3 or 2+4). To have dual channel, I have to use dimms 2+3 !! I know that is weird, but this is the truth.
If I use 1+3 or 2+4, the motherboard doesnt boot or it says single channel mode.

Anyone having this problem with BallistiX memories? Should I RMA the board or it is fixable by a bios update?

Hi, I had issues with mine and earlier versions of the bios, however with 0907 they run just fine...
Chris

I am running 0907 right now. NOTHING changed! I've tried like every bios that was released after the original bios..
Dual channel still works on dimms 2+3, and no 4 installed dimms are allowed. With Tracers and with NON-Tracers, no difference between them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarcusXP

I am running 0907 right now. NOTHING changed! I've tried like every bios that was released after the original bios..
Dual channel still works on dimms 2+3, and no 4 installed dimms are allowed. With Tracers and with NON-Tracers, no difference between them.

---

maybe it's time to rma your board

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by doom_st

maybe it's time to rma your board

---

I agree. My board ran 4 X 1GB of Crucial Ballistix PC2 8500 just fine. It also runs well with 4 X 2GB G.Skill PC2 8000. :)

Update: (2-2-2008) I got it working again, temperamental piece of crap board that this is.

I have had my board for just about 3 months now and it has just died on me. :(

I upgraded to BIOS 0505 the day I assembled the system and overclocked my B3 Q6600 to a conservative 2.88GHz for a 20% overclock with the stock Intel cooler (MX-2 paste) until such time as I installed a better cooler. I was using a 4x 1GB DDR2-1066 Corsair Dominator memory kit with memory ratio to run 1066mhz. I used these setting 24/7 with occasional reboots for Windows updates or configuration changes in OS, never had any need to adjust or update the BIOS since build date.

Well this evening, during a heavy rainstorm, the power went out for a few seconds and the PC lost power. Now the board is unresponsive, I can power on the case, all the LEDs light to green status, I see a flash of orange on the HDD LED activity light but the USB ports dont appear to power up (usually the backlight of my G15 keyboard would come on) and no video output is displayed to my monitors. I have attempted use the CLR_BIOS switch on the back panel (enabled on board) to no avail. I'm convinced the board is dead and will have to contact ASUS. :(

Asus Maximus Formula SE (0505)
Q6600 B3 @ 2.88GHz
4x 1GB Corsair Dominator DDR2-1066
Foxconn 7900GS
Supermefx II (AMF Sound Card)
2x Seagate 500GB SATA
1x SATA DVD-RW
PC Power & Cooling 610W Silencer

Hi, set the memory volts to 2.0 and loosen off the timimgs, you might try setting the NB volts to 1.47 as well...
Chris

Don't think he can enter the bios if he cannot get it to post... pop the battery leave it out for a night but I think you have the same issue I had with my P5W, also due to several power cuts the board died , lit up all was spinning though no post, took one dimm out reset cmos booted up again but even at stock speeds I needed to up voltages to get it sort of stable, board was RMA'd a week later as it behaved too erratically....

Also what is the error message on the LCd poster ?

Quote:

---

I have tried 2 different motherboards using both Bios 505 and 907 and the Maximus Formula will not post with Corsair PC8500 ram. The LCD will read Dram Det and will not post. After a few seconds my monitor light will start to blink which indicates that the PC will not post. It works just fine with Corsair PC6400 ram. Is there something I need to tweak in the bios to get it to properly recognize PC8500?
The PC8500 ram works fine in the P5W DH Deluxe with no problem at all while OC'd.
Ok I tried changing the DimmV from Auto to 1.8V
Change the FSB Strap from Auto to 400MHz
Change DRAM Freq from Auto to DDR2-1066MHz
Place 1 ram into the white slot
None of them worked. It remains stuck at Dram Det. I did a lot of switching to PC6400 set bios, save bios, turn off computer then install one PC8500, then the other, no go. Pop in my PC6400 and it works like a charm!

---

Any help would be appreciated.

I have same problem with the corsair 8500C5D , just cannot post, I have to swiched to a different ram to get post.
I notice I have to set the timinng auto or it cannot post , and it does not boot at 1:1 either have to set divider 1100,once it post my Dominator got a lots of error when using memtest3.6 , when the H , rated speed at 1066 can't get to run at 1100.
So I decided to get a pair of Crucial Ballistic 8500, coming this morning , I 'll test it out and see

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by icecpu

I have same problem with the corsair 8500C5D , just cannot post, I have to swiched to a different ram to get post.
I notice I have to set the timinng auto or it cannot post , and it does not boot at 1:1 either have to set divider 1100,once it post my Dominator got a lots of error when using memtest3.6 , when the H , rated speed at 1066 can't get to run at 1100.
So I decided to get a pair of Crucial Ballistic 8500, coming this morning , I 'll test it out and see

---

I figured it out. All you do is use some other working ram and set Dram Voltage to 2.06V. Reboot then turn off the computer once it post. Install the PC8500 Ram and it finally posted! I set Dram Frequency to 887 and FSB Strap to North Bridge to Auto. I noticed something odd. At stock CPU 3.0GHz there is no 1066MHz Dram Frequency for the FSB Strap to North Bridge at all! I looked at the Dram Frequency when I set FSB Strap to 200MHz, 266MHz, 333MHz and 400MHz and none of them allowed me to use 1066MHz Dram Frequency. So I choose 887 (which is FSB Strap 400 I think).

IMO this bios needs work!

Hey guys,

Sorry i aint been about much. Small update in short, next week i sould be here more.

-12c i got 600FSB out the bord, -12c being the NB. CPU was on std water!

I'm still on 903, 907 is tempting and i think i will do it when i drop my E8500 in.

Bord is full wc'd.

I hate the bios and pickyness of the bord, wish Asus would maike things nice and simple and working again.

The naked X38 has an IHS back on it for now but i still belive it's the only one in the world thats naked and working!

Has there been any chnages to thenewer mfgd bord ie has there been a rev 2 or soemthing?

I'm tempted to jump ship to a new rev bord

what is wrong with my Maximus guys ?? every time I set the timing manual 5-5-5-15 it does not boot, LCD poster hang at DET DRAM , but I set auto sometime it boot ok sometime hang DET DRAM at 5-5-5-18

FSB at 460, and by the way , what is the best program to test the ram for stability ? thanks

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by icecpu

what is wrong with my Maximus guys ?? every time I set the timing manual 5-5-5-15 it does not boot, LCD poster hang at DET DRAM , but I set auto sometime it boot ok sometime hang DET DRAM at 5-5-5-18

FSB at 460, and by the way , what is the best program to test the ram for stability ? thanks

---

Check the Maximus part 2 thread I posted a answer there for you

To everyone here running the Maximus Se with an QX9650... I didn't have this with my Q6600 but I have serious Vdroop now , about 0.3 with the Yorkfield... at the moment it runs stock ( 9 x 333), Vid of the CPU is 1.1250, I set 1.250 and it puts out 1.08 in all monitoring programs.

It even gets worst if I tend to OC... as I need to set 1.4+ voltages to get 1.12 to even boot at 9 x 400... I'm using Bios 0907... it seems that it almost doesn't matter which voltage I set as it has very little impact on the voltage being given to the CPU...

Think I'm gonna put this CPU on the P5K dLx and pop in my Q6600 again on the Maximus... till a proper bios pops up...

Edit :

Tried the CPU in the P5K Dlx, same stuff happens there... this kindda puzzles me, also same temps occur on both boards...with different WC setups 41-39-37-37 coretemps at stock speed idle: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
(CPU is folding ) at stock speeds to let her burn in, Vcore set in Bios 1.250 , which gives in windows under zero load : 1.08. Under 100% stress 1.07v pffffffff Temps 46-45-43-43... That's 5°C hotter than my Q6600... At the moment pretty dissapointed in the board. CPU temp wise I think there's a software error there... I really hope there is lol...

noob question so please be kind...

After installing my E8400 and doing some testing I did a clean install of my OS.
After Vista 32bit installed I loaded the drivers from the Maximus CD, after a quick 3dmark run I upgraded my Matrix Storage Manager driver from Intels site.
I now have version 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007 installed and personally Its a pos.
I have small delays when reading HDD but there not all the time there intermitent, 3dmark is down a few hundred points, so my question is how can I revert to the driver on the cd and not do another clean install?
The folders on the disk are somewhat unclear and alittle adivice would be greatly appreciated.

System restore ?

perhaps it might work, maybe I'll make an backup image b4 I start playing around

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

noob question so please be kind...

After installing my E8400 and doing some testing I did a clean install of my OS.
After Vista 32bit installed I loaded the drivers from the Maximus CD, after a quick 3dmark run I upgraded my Matrix Storage Manager driver from Intels site.
I now have version 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007 installed and personally Its a pos.
I have small delays when reading HDD but there not all the time there intermitent, 3dmark is down a few hundred points, so my question is how can I revert to the driver on the cd and not do another clean install?
The folders on the disk are somewhat unclear and alittle adivice would be greatly appreciated.

---

Try device manager and the roll back driver button. On my 2 Vista 64 computers the button is active on one and grayed out on the other. 50/50 chance? You could also try reinstalling the old driver over the top. You'll probably get a "The driver you are trying to install is older than the current, do you wish to continue anyway?" prompt. Just click yes. :)

can any of u guys do 1000mhz CL4 trd 7???

weird that this board cant seem to do it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cstkl1

can any of u guys do 1000mhz CL4 trd 7???

weird that this board cant seem to do it.

---

Yes, very easily, see my sig, each of the OCZ, Crucial and Corsair of the PC2-8500 rating I have OC'd on this mobo do 4-4-4-9 quite well. If you're willing to push the vdimm and have good cooling, you can get 1066 @ 4-5-5-10 with the Crucial Ballistics and at least 4-5-5-15 with OCZ XLC.

Hello and sorry for my bad English.

I have BIOS 0907 installed and now i have 2 problems. The first ist CPU Ratio Control don`t work. I can not the multiplier changing. It`s show aways AUTO. The second problem ist Hardware Monitor. CPU Temp. show from 9C to 11C. What can i do. I will waiting for new BIOS. Wenn will be he realised?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Yes, very easily, see my sig, each of the OCZ, Crucial and Corsair of the PC2-8500 rating I have OC'd on this mobo do 4-4-4-9 quite well. If you're willing to push the vdimm and have good cooling, you can get 1066 @ 4-5-5-10 with the Crucial Ballistics and at least 4-5-5-15 with OCZ XLC.

---

dude i am asking for memtest 1000 percent stable at TRD 8 or TRD7

can u post ure settings and screenshot...

cause cant seem to do with this motherboard.

oh yeah i have a few team PC2-6400 CL3's , OCZ reapers PC2-8500
and a 500fsb capable proc..
only problem that on this board.. is difficult.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ushatia76

Hello and sorry for my bad English.

I have BIOS 0907 installed and now i have 2 problems. The first ist CPU Ratio Control don`t work. I can not the multiplier changing. It`s show aways AUTO. The second problem ist Hardware Monitor. CPU Temp. show from 9C to 11C. What can i do. I will waiting for new BIOS. Wenn will be he realised?

---

Use numpad + or - and u can adjust the ratio, and just use coretemp/everest for monitoring, this is a known bug in this BIOS release, but this Bios works the best for me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mc2k

Use numpad + or - and u can adjust the ratio, and just use coretemp/everest for monitoring, this is a known bug in this BIOS release, but this Bios works the best for me.

---

Thank you very much!!! It`s work.:up:

HAllo mate ive got same problem...i ve got E8500 and my temp is 11C in bios in newest everest,core temp,asus probe...i don t understand it...why?..

why some processors runing on good temp and ours no...

?????....
i ve got some bios 0907...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ushatia76

Hello and sorry for my bad English.

I have BIOS 0907 installed and now i have 2 problems. The first ist CPU Ratio Control don`t work. I can not the multiplier changing. It`s show aways AUTO. The second problem ist Hardware Monitor. CPU Temp. show from 9C to 11C. What can i do. I will waiting for new BIOS. Wenn will be he realised?

---

For BIOS v0701 and v0907, ASUS BIOS reading of CPU core/s temp (NOT IHS) is normal and most preffered. This is the temp of wich you should be most concerned with when overclocking. I can't speak for Core Temp (app) but for ASUS PC ProbeII and Everest, you can confirm by looking at CPU cores 1 & 2 readings to see that they too are the higher of the "2" readings. The CPU IHS is always gonna' look lower since it is cooled externally.This is normal if you concider that the internal heat is gonna' take a bit to react to the surface heat.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cstkl1

dude i am asking for memtest 1000 percent stable at TRD 8 or TRD7

can u post ure settings and screenshot...

cause cant seem to do with this motherboard.

oh yeah i have a few team PC2-6400 CL3's , OCZ reapers PC2-8500
and a 500fsb capable proc..
only problem that on this board.. is difficult.

---

CPU Configuration E6750

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [8x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]*

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]

Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]

DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------ [CMOS setting] = effective value
CPU Voltage [1.5875v] = 1.568v = 1.576v loaded
CPU PLL Voltage [1.52v = 1.632v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v] = 1.504v
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.224v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
-------------------------------
CPU Configuratins:
Virtualization = Disabled*
TM Mode = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
Ex Bit Disable = Enabled*
EIST = (Disabled by BIOS over certain FSB)

This is for the exact E6750 CPU in sig and can be changed to 7x for 3,5GHz by only lowering the vcore and CPU PLL to each

CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50v = 1.616v

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pete

Hey guys,

Sorry i aint been about much. Small update in short, next week i sould be here more.

-12c i got 600FSB out the bord, -12c being the NB. CPU was on std water!

I'm still on 903, 907 is tempting and i think i will do it when i drop my E8500 in.

Bord is full wc'd.

I hate the bios and pickyness of the bord, wish Asus would maike things nice and simple and working again.

The naked X38 has an IHS back on it for now but i still belive it's the only one in the world thats naked and working!

Has there been any chnages to thenewer mfgd bord ie has there been a rev 2 or soemthing?

I'm tempted to jump ship to a new rev bord

---

Also naked and working ;)

E8400


When I leave:
-North Bridge Voltage: Auto = 1.648V
-South Bridge Votlage: Auto = 1.088V

Should this be lower?

Depends on FSB however NB at auto is always (too) high. Up to ~500FSB about 1.49 for NB should do. 4x1024 likes a tat more.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by loc.o

Depends on FSB however NB at auto is always (too) high. Up to ~500FSB about 1.49 for NB should do. 4x1024 likes a tat more.

---

Opps forgot:

E8400 @ 3.6, FSB 400, 2 Gigs PC8500

-North Bridge Voltage: Auto = 1.648V
-South Bridge Votlage: Auto = 1.088V
-SB 1.5V: Auto
-CPU GTL Reference: Auto

Should any of these be changed?

Transaction booster etc wil make a diff as wel but for 400mhz FSB you should be fine with less on NB i guess. I have it on 1.47 or 49 most of the time for NB, SB 1.050V and SB 1.5 at 1.6v This is with 4x1024 @ 560 mhz 5/5/5/15 and transaction booster diasbled & 1. E8400 9.5X421MHZ.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by loc.o

Transaction booster etc wil make a diff as wel but for 400mhz FSB you should be fine with less on NB i guess.

---

E8400 @ 3.6, FSB 400, 2 Gigs PC8500

-North Bridge Voltage: Auto = 1.648V
-South Bridge Votlage: Auto = 1.088V
-SB 1.5V: Auto
-CPU GTL Reference: Auto
-Transaction Booster: enable
-Boost Level= 0

Should any of this be changed?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

CPU Configuration E6750

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting [8x]
FSB Frequency [500MHz]
FSB Strap To North Bridge [Auto]*
PCIE Frequency [111]
DRAM Frequency [Auto]*

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
Primary Info; 4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy [4]
RAS# To CAS# Delay [4]
RAS# Precharge [4]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To RAS# Dlay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]

Scondary Info; 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read To Write Dely(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read(S) [Auto]
Read To Read(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]

DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]*
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]*
Transaction Booster [Disabled]*
Relax Level [0]*
------------------------------------------ [CMOS setting] = effective value
CPU Voltage [1.5875v] = 1.568v = 1.576v loaded
CPU PLL Voltage [1.52v = 1.632v
North Bridge Voltage [1.47v] = 1.504v
DRAM Voltage [2.14v] = 2.224v
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40v] = 1.472v
South Bridge Voltage [1.075v] = 1.104v
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.63%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [ Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5v Voltage [1.55v] = 1.584v

CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
-------------------------------
CPU Configuratins:
Virtualization = Disabled*
TM Mode = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
Ex Bit Disable = Enabled*
EIST = (Disabled by BIOS over certain FSB)

This is for the exact E6750 CPU in sig and can be changed to 7x for 3,5GHz by only lowering the vcore and CPU PLL to each

CPU Voltage [1.3875v] = 1.368v
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50v = 1.616v

---

dude thats trd 10.
trd 9 is boost enabled
trd 8 is boost enabled 1

example.. i can only do this for about 7-9 minutes

TRD 9 and 10 pass for all day long..
but 8..
hmm and again on P35.. trd 7 was easy.


http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9...6737vu1.th.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MonkY

FSB Termination Voltage: 1,36 1,28 real - and very strange, as with my E6850 it was higher than bios settings, now it's much lower...

---

I noticed that as well. Hopefully the new 8X00's will push out a new bios. Anyone seen anything on this altered vtt pattern with new 8X00's?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cstkl1

dude thats trd 10.
trd 9 is boost enabled
trd 8 is boost enabled 1

example.. i can only do this for about 7-9 minutes

TRD 9 and 10 pass for all day long..
but 8..
hmm and again on P35.. trd 7 was easy.


http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9...6737vu1.th.jpg

---

Where do or did you get 10 from. If reffering to Read To Write Delay Time, mine in is 8 when set to AUTO. I forget if it changed on various changes of Clock Twister and or primary timings. I do believe relaxing the Booster effects this but haven't tested into depth.

I have noticed that certain BIOS releases have changed how it is set when in AUTO and with Booster disabled and relaxed to "0"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by .OCX

I noticed that as well. Hopefully the new 8X00's will push out a new bios. Anyone seen anything on this altered vtt pattern with new 8X00's?

---

yeah noticed it and also.. i think this was the reason..

so default is 1.2v for vcore with auto at 1.184 for fsb.

i always thought that vtt should be lower than vcore..
as far as i now

try imagine ..
i can get my proc to stable at vcoe 1.25v at 4ghz with vtt 1.216/1.232.....
but it makes the rams go nuts at whatever voltages/gtls i push on PLL, NB, DIMM,,... just cannot be done...

if i leave it to go higher than vcore.. i need to push the vcore to stabilize at 1.296v .. but then mem gets a random errors..
sometimes passes 30 minutes of orthos large fft .. and in another restart fails in 10secs.



new bios need them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Where do or did you get 10 from. If reffering to Read To Write Delay Time, mine in is 8 when set to AUTO. I forget if it changed on various changes of Clock Twister and or primary timings. I do believe relaxing the Booster effects this but haven't tested into depth.

I have noticed that certain BIOS releases have changed how it is set when in AUTO and with Booster disabled and relaxed to "0"

---

hmm based on e8400 thats tRD 8... moderate+disabled relax 0.
mistake...argghh cant remember.. wasting my time on this proc with this board..

other mobos can do tRD 7..
heck i didnt try it with the 65nm.. should have.
use memset and u will get the performance value aka tRD..
read anandtech latest x48 review on min trd..



give up need new bios..

If the tRD is the "Read To Write Delay Time", it can be manually set to 7. Is this not the same?

Anyone can give me The default voltage for all setting in bios ? (north bridge , south bridge , ....)

I just receive my New E8400 And I will try to beat my previous record of 3975mhz With my E6850 .

default voltage, what do u mean? isnt that just : Load default setup ?

when I go to load default all the setting go to Auto . If I want to raise a little bit more I need to know what the default Voltage first ?

Can I just set everything to auto and check in bios hardware monitor to see what is the default voltage ?

Thanks

Ok , I have put CPU stock speed and put every volt setting to AUTO . here my result in hardware monitor :

CPU : 1.185
CPU PLL : 1.6
North : 1.360
Ram : 2.0
FSB : 1.185
South : 1.072
SB 1.5 : 1.552

After That I put every Voltage manual but To obtain the same Voltage in hardware monitor I need to put different setting , example to obtain 1.185Vcore in I need to put 1.225 in setting .

Here the list of Volt I need to put to obtain the same result :

CPU : 1.225
CPU PLL : 1.56
North : 1.35
Ram : 2.1
FSB : 1.26
South : 1.050
SB 1.5 : 1.5

Noo, do not use AUTO, as this board will overvolt everything!!! as u want to beat your old CPU, start with 445x9 = 4005ghz,
strap: 400mhz, 1.20-1.40FSBv and 1.47-1.49NBv should be enough, really depends on the board and cpu. and try to figure out how much vcore u need, set accordingly SBv: 1.05 SB1.5v: 1.50v, CPU GTL : 0.63x NB GTL: 0.67x, and set CPU PLL: to 1.50 ( as it overvolts crazy lol), transaction booster/ dram read static control: Auto or disable clock twister : auto. And pay extra attention to vDRAM: as it overvolts by 0.08 , here again it depends on what mem u got. These "basic settings" u can use to start.

Right now I am priming with the above setting 468FSBx9 , 1.20FSBv, 1.49NBv, 333 strap, transaction/dram static disabled/ clocktwister strong, so far it works.

I am currently using BIOS 0907, seems to work great, but so are 0802 & 0903 , I tried, but I didnt noticed any differences between those.