Argh... the F9 BIOS really isn't that good either, I'm thinking of reverting to F6. They haven't released a good BIOS for the UD3R for quite some time.
Nothing that I know of but when he said he thought it maybe a corrupted file and this problem has been going on for almost a year, I was wondering how long he goes before doing a fresh install. I had some issues with my DQ6 when switching from the ud3p on the same install, I uninstalled my ud3p drivers and installed new ones but still wouldn't run right (being lazy), had to do a fresh install and it worked like it was suppose to after. I know some people don't format when they get a new motherboard, just change to the new drivers. Sometimes you can run into problems this way.
If I had to bet, I would say it is his memory, even if he tried a different set. I have 3 ud3p boards, 2 rev 1.1's and a rev 1.0. One of the rev 1.1 boards will not let me boot with 2 sticks of my g.skill 9600pi's, have to boot first with a single stick, clock it where i want and then can add the second stick but becomes unstable, the same mem in my other boards is fine and passes memtest and blend. In that same board my 1066 g.skill, ocz reapers,ocz lv plats and mushkin redlines all work fine. Something isn't right with his setup, he has had more than 1 board with the same issue and the guy he got this one from said he had it running in dual channel with no problems.
Hey maybe u should try something ...Quote:
I like the board and its overclockability. I just wish i could get dual channel memory going. Funny thing is, I bought this one from a member here and he said he had no issue running dual channel mode, so I have no freaking clue why it would work for him but not for me.
take an Eraser (u know the one u use in school to erase pencil...) and clean ur ram sticks , make it shine. >>> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9...inators.th.jpg
anyway ... i have somekind of volt problem ... i own p45-ud3p + q6600.
seems like i can't use any more than 1.5930 Vcore .
for example i can run my system stable at 1.5930 Vcore @ 3.8ghz but if i use the same setting for 3.8ghz with like 1.6 vcore and above ... it wont even boot to windows :s .
i really want to hit 4ghz and i know my chip can do it .
sorry, bad english .
It was not a big issue but now that I am doing a lot more rendering and photoshopping, I need all the ram I can get.
I have done a fresh install before, even bought a new hdd and did a new install...it doesn't work. originally everything worked great on my second board(first one was DOA) and then one day the board would not boot. I took out a stick and it ran since. After a while, I bought another board, a rev 1.1 hoping it would be fixed. It did not. I bought a new hdd and did a new install and it still would not work. I bought this last board from a member here who had it running in dual channel. This time, I did not do a fresh install however. I may pull my raptor drive back out, do a fresh install and see what happens.At some point, I don't think a fresh install should be the answer to this kind of issue. Others have had it with the same motherboard.
Great second post dude...(that is sarcasm by the way). Don't you think I have tried all of that? Scroll through the 200 pages then come in and give me advice, thanks.
cloo007, it sounds like if you've gone through that much trouble with all of the other hardware, it's time to RMA/get new RAM. I hate to say it, but there seems to be no other explanation for the problem, other than maybe an issue with the processor. Speaking of which, have you swapped the processors?
So what to get on UD3R rev1.1 board? I flashed one and have not tested others, any suggestions? What about that GA-EP45-UD3R - F12e? :shrug:
Maybe there is better older one?
F10j = faster boot for me too! :)
stasio
bios F10j shows on every reboot "veryfing DMI pool data"...for a sec
F10i didnt ?
what is it ?
Cheers :up:
Sergio
On the verge of owning one of these at last... went for a v1.6 board in the end as I've seen some impressive clocks with these. Will probably have to wait a week or so, but I'll be posting here a tad more soon :)
Hi guys,
I'm setting up a system for my wife and need some E8600 settings, I'm a C2D noob, looking for:
SKEWS
and
REF's
That info will save me a huge amount of time.
:up:
Hi Nub, thanks I saw his post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3645
But he never tweaked the Advanced Clock Control settings like skews I pmed him.
Jor: It has been a long time since used my 8400, I cant remember the skews or many of the settings.
If you get bored and want to try for some new WR benches on a different quad let me know. My q9550 is bored sitting in the box it came in, I think it has potential for greatness for someone with better skills and cooling, its a pretty cool running 1.2125vid. Not trying to sell, will send it to you, I want to see what it can do.
Great!!! Will send it out next week. :up:
My best oc with that chip on the dq6, no vmod.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=639
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=642
I find max Vnb on my mobo........cannot touch > 1.7v on AIR, max only 1.66v :mad: ( i got a BAD ONES )
This what got for Vnb 1.66v :down:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2rpte8y.jpg
hello all,
just got the GA-EP45-UD3P, and had a few questions of putting my computer
together...(kind of new at it, so please go easy)
i'm going to use my old Antec PLUS1080AMG case and my PSU is Corsair HX620.
so here's the questions:
- the Power LED connection from the case's front panel connections is 3 pin, but on the mobo, the Front Panel Header connection is only 2 pin....what to do?
- my old PSU Antec Truepower 430w (came with case) has a 3 pin 'PSU Fan Monitor Connection' that plugged into my old mobo(Asus P4P800).....
but my new Corsair PSU does not have a 3 pin PWR fan cable to plug into the 3 pin PWR FAN connection on the UD3P mobo....does it matter?
btw, what do i plug into the 3 pin SYS FAN1 and 4 pin SYS FAN2 on the mobo?
hope you guys can help, thanks in advance.
Well I just got my EP45T-UD3P up and so far so good:) Running F8C bios.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9909/52082943.png
o/t: just had a scare over the weekend -- my power went out & upon 'puter restart, both LAN and F/W went south. they showed up in device mgr in winxp and win7, but both had an error codes and would not work. flashed bios back to F9 and bingo -- back in action! flashed back to F10j and all is well again! just thought i'd share a happy ending! :)
hey Jor3lBR thanks for responding...
after your suggestion, i flipped through the manual to look for "MSG+" thinking that it is a different connector...
but that "MSG+" connection is the exact 2 pin connector that's in the Front Panel Header that i was referring to. ( i think you might have got it mixed up :)...but no worries
so my problem (i thought) was that my case Power LED is 3 pin and the mobo Power LED connection is 2 pin....but i was wrong
as it turns out though, flipping through the manual this time helped....apparently there IS a 3 pin Power LED connection on the mobo, and it's right above the "MSG+" connection.
ain't that how it always goes, search and search for something and you don't find it, but search for something else....and bingo! the other thing appears.
well thanks again for your response
It's absolutely easier than the EP45C was. I really hope you have better luck. I saw someone else running one at 550fsb with DDR3 but I really have no clue how he was able to do that.
It could be that the board just didn't play well with my OCZ Plats... dunno. I am still having some problems running at 1800MHz CL8, but can run 1600 CL7 fine...I will play with the board a bit more later on
I just purchased the EP45-UD3P after reading this thread.
I am coming from a Biostar Tpower P45 board combined with my low vid Q9550.
The Biostar just couldn't clock the Q9550 with a 1.17 vid to its potential (4th core is stuck).
Here is a introduction run to test possible voltages on the Q9550.
I installed a pair of my D9GKX Buffalo Firestix 512mb sticks, before moving onto the expensive D9GKX Cellshock's
I combined many of your templates with my own insight to lead up to these results .:up:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9687/q955044.png
^^ very decent Chad. what cooling are you using? nice cpu, have you had that long or purchase recently?
Hey everyone,
is there a known issue with these boards and sound cards? I've use 3 different sound cards plus the onboard audio on 2 different P45-UD3R's and 1 UD3P and I'm getting crackling in my audio on all of them. It is driving me crazy.
(right now I'm listening to music and it's crackling)
CPU usage is not high, and I know it's not the amp/speakers because I tested it with an iPod connected directly to them.
HELP!
very nice chad
Hey guys I've been running this board for a while and was wondering what the main settings in the bios are that I want to pay attention to when overclocking.
Currently I'm sitting at 3.6Ghz with just one bump in vcore. I know not to go over 1.4 on one of the settings I think it was the fsb termination or some such.
I haven't read this whole thread but I figured it's easier to post and get a quick rundown from somebody who really knows what they're talking about. Thanks! :)
So I'm posting this at 4.1GHz, I got here by just bumping the vcore and nothing else.
I have a weird problem now, I just booted into windows and Aero basic is on. Basically windows says I don't have a videocard. I can't see my nvidia control panel when I right click on the desktop.
wtf?!
Edit: Downclocked to 3.6GHz and now everything's back to normal. So obviously I'm not giving it enough volts for 4.1Ghz, guess I'll add more vcore and go from there. Which other settings should I change to help stabilize the system?
Edit2: The system seems to just shut down when I push 4.1Ghz, I know I'm missing something but what? I was at 4.1Ghz with 1.32vcore and I bumped the fsb term from 1.2 up to 1.26 and after I rebooted there was some weird squeaking/squawking coming from my case. It kind of freaked me out so now I'm back at 3.6Ghz. What is going on and what volts do I need to change to make this stable. :(
andressergio i finally got a low vid q9650 and :rofl: board died :rofl:
i wonder who convinced me to cancel my boycott :ROTF:
the only good thing is that i saw cpu priming @ 4.6 for 10 min before the :exlode:
took me an hour to post this as i had to calm down lol
the good thing is cpu still alive:D
These are the kind of posts that put a little concern into me using this board as part of my workstation. What revision was that board zsamz? Are there any hints people could provide to help aviod the board going kaputt on me? I'll have a w/c nb, and will probably put my copper enzotech mosfet sinks on it, so heat shouldn't be a problem.Quote:
andressergio i finally got a low vid q9650 and board died
i wonder who convinced me to cancel my boycott
the only good thing is that i saw cpu priming @ 4.6 for 10 min before the :exlode:
took me an hour to post this as i had to calm down lol
the good thing is cpu still alive
I had a missed delivery and am about to go check what it is... May be posting on here again real soon :)
No it's not stable at 7. maybe i'll try a different bios, I dunno....the F8C isn't that new though although it's the newest. I was hoping there'd be an update soon :/
@ winston856, 1.45VCore and 1.45VTT is safe with good air cooling, above that only for testing/benching to find stable OC.
Too much VTT and PLL is the quickest way to kill your CPU not VCore.
The rumours of degrading were never proven, obv its ain't going to take same voltage as older 65nm CPU's and like all CPU's will not last as long if you Overvolt+Overclock but it will last you as long as you need it. ;)
Got bored so I put my giga rig back together. Testing my e8400 eo for max stability, it is no golden chip for sure. Added a Scythe 133cfm to the H50 with some AC on the little rad, temps are very good. Just starting this run but wont do real long blend runs to save some time. This is the DQ6 not the UD3P board but that thread has been dead for so long I am posting in this thread. Will keep pushing this hard for max stable oc as long as temps hold up.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/723/4500tempse8400.png
Did a very short blend run and 20 passes of LinX. Will keep pushing it.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6...end4500mhz.png
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/660...hzlinx8400.png
Thanks Sergio.
Thats on a DQ6 though...still good.
***Want to borrow*** OK, can anyone be willing to let me borrow a dual core 775 socket chip. I don't care what kind just as long as I can put it in my Ep45-UD3R? I want to see if my Q9550 is the issue with the dual channel not working. I am at my last straw and don't have the funds to buy a dual core proc like a e8400 or anything.
If anyone would be willing to let me borrow one for a week to test, I would greatly appreciate it. I will pay for shipping to me and back and give you my word I will return after testing. I just really want to figure this out.
PM if you can help me. Thanks guys.
Windows 7 x64
I have tried:
Onboard
Creative Audigy 2ZS
Creative Audigy SE
M-Audio Audiophile 2496
The M-Audio is my current card, and is in the bottom slot.
In the next couple days I am going to switch my 2 channel amp for a 5.1 Receiver I have (that I know works fine) and try the optical ports from the onboard setup...
Finally got the board this morning, and after a little fiddling, I got it swapped out for the MIIF without any bother. Pic is below, but no cables tidied as I got a bit eager to try it out :)
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...h_DSCF0755.jpg
Although I don't really like the style of the board, i.e. colour scheme, and limited fan headers & sensors, it does seem to have a nicer build quality than the Asus. Looking at the SMDs placement, I think this has better accuracy than the MIIF which is something I'm used to spotting having worked in the industry in the past. It seemed as though the general design looked a lot more modular and efficient, and connectors felt a bit more solid too.
Anyway, after some fiddling, I'm tackling 500x9 straight on to see how I fair over the weekend, but think I am suffering issues with easytune 6. I keep getting a 'could not load device driver' error message, and only a few of the voltages match what I set in bios. the 'power on' values of VTT and the CPU & MCH reference in particular. Anyone had similar issues or am I missing something?
True its an ugly Mobo but if you have no side window wont matter.
Forget software, OC it in the Bios and let us know if you can get 500FSB with reasonable 24/7 voltages. :)
Thanks for the tip, it's a shame this kind of software is buggy, it would really save some time.. I'll probably be posting some filled out templates and asking for some hints, but I'm getting a good feel of the bios for now and will try to push as far as I can on my own. This bios is rather alien to me though, only slightly similar to the NF4-SLI-DR expert I used to use, but I can interpret the settings as I would the MIIF reasonably well, although there's aquite a few extra 'pages' in bios to explore :)
Reference settings seem much more sensitive so I imagine they'll be a lot easier to find than the mIIf was. I'm just having a bit of bother trying to get the cpu stable, past 8K atm. Seems like the board undervolts vcore by about .025v with llc enabled and temps are getting a little toasty for the CPU at 1.4v (~1.375 according to CPU-Z, speedfan & everest), but I hope to lower them, or get it stable. Using a higher CPU ref seemed to provide more stability, as with the MCH ref.
p.s. Everest is showing some 190 Watts power and 130 Amps being drawn. Seems like a hell of a lot for one of these compared to the mIIfat similar voltages, could it be down to the number of phases or do you think I should tread carefully??
Your setup reminds me of spider-man :p:
Personally, I like the color/design of the board
@ In-Fluence, why are you messing with 1.4v CPU for now ?
Set CPU to stock so 1.25v (you can do 3GHZ on far lower) , lower Multi to 6 and try get 500FSB that we could not get stable on the MFII POS's. :)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=880641
Looking good so far :D
Yeah, last night I came in a little enebriated after a work's xmas do, and was just trying to see what kind of voltages I might need for such speeds in comparison, but something obviously wasn't tuned right... anyway being able to boot trouble-free at this FSB without any REF voltage tuning has already stunned me - very pleased with this board, and once I get my head around how it reacts to different settings, I'll no doubt back back up to 9x multi soon.
just gonna try my luck at max fsb now, and see how much higher it can go. *edit: 540 always hung on login, and really want to tweak 500fsb first so will get back to that.
p.s. would you recommend moving over to the Fj bios? I assume the blank info on CPU-Z is due to me having FB onboard?
and one more question - sorry! Is there a difference between the F10B bios and the FB one (for example), or is it just interpreted differently by some?
Hehe, my mate said the same the other day - wasn't intentional but I can see where you're coming from. I just like contrasting colours :)Quote:
Your setup reminds me of spider-man
Can anybody point me to a template or a guide with the UD3R and a Q9550 please? :)
I'm new to overclocking these 45nm quads and would like some of the settings on the mobo explained so I know how to use them instead of just stumbling around blind.
Read through this thread...there are alot of us with Q9550s on these boards.
Yep, there's also a Q9550 thread, with some good info.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=203236
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.
One more thing, I've read that those with quads should disable Load Line Calibration. Should I disable it ?
Here's what I've got so far, I tested this for 4 hours at 6x multi, and decided to reboot and go for 8.5. Current voltages are 1.31 vcore, 1.4 mch, 1.3 vtt. Vcore isn't tuned, and might be able to go lower, but progress is looking very good indeed, and I'm actually having a bit of fun with this board :D
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...53hrstable.jpg
I'm very pleased right now, so long as it stands the test of time I won't have any major complaints.
Never caused any problems for me, and you've got the same brand PSU, so I'd say it's safe, just watch your temperatures.Quote:
One more thing, I've read that those with quads should disable Load Line Calibration. Should I disable it ?
Looking good all you guys!
How's the F11 bios? I'm on the F9 and wonder if I should flash to it. I heard you need more volts with the F11 vs. the F9 with the same settings. Lets here some experiences with F11. :)
A few nuggets from this board so far:
FSB of 560:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/887013.png
Sub 10 seconds 1M PI run:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...10secs1MPI.jpg
And 4.5GHz stable:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...00x9STABLE.jpg
Seriously, never has so much fun with a board :D
Does anyone have any experience with Kingston's HyperX T1 series (big heat sink version) ram? I recently got 4 sticks of them for 8gig setup since my crucial Ballistix are starting to fail after a couple of months (like a lot of others). Its marketed as 1066 ram but apparently its meant be OCed from its true raw spec of ddr2 800. Thats fine, since it is supposed to be able to run at 1066 5-5-5-15 2.2V. However I could not get it past 850. Tried loosen the timing, bumped MCH voltage, tried with only one stick. Nothing seemed to work. Is it just me? or this is some sort of incompatibility of the ram with the E45-UD3R board.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I think after using the MIIF for so long you get a good knack for tuning. The gigabyte just seems to do it a lot finer and more consistently. Even at 550 fsb once tuned I could get it to boot regularly without a hitch.
I still have one boggle about the bios versions though - I'm currently using FD which seems to be a nice, quick, problem free bios. Is this also known as F10D or is there a difference? I'm looking at F10j for the sake of having the latest one, but it's not specifically for rev1.6.... could I flash this revision or not?
So I'm trying to get 4.2GHz stable and I need some input.
495x8.5
vcore - 1.35 (went up to 1.375 during testing)
PLL - 1.5
VTT - 1.38
MCH - 1.50
CPU ref - 0.86
MCH ref - around 0.87 or so.
I can post into windows but when I run the Intelburntest sometimes it won't catch. I'll start it and the cores will go to 100% but the temps won't go all the way up. So I'll stop it then restart it and then it acts normally. Once it completes I get bad times and scores. When the temps do go up I'm in the 70's.
I took the CPU out of the equation and with 1.5 MCH volts I got the board to 515 FSB before it started to get unstable so I thought it wouldn't be the mobo. Perhaps more CPU volts?
What volts should I up?
Also what is the "system" temperature in ET6? The NB temp?
495x8.5
vcore - 1.35 (went up to 1.375 during testing)
PLL - 1.5
VTT - 1.34
MCH - 1.40
CPU ref - 0.86 - one notch above or below may help
MCH ref - around 0.87 or so - same for this
These are what I use for 500x9 which is P95 stable. I would urge you to try and tune the CPU/NB clock skews they help a lot. Mine work best at 150/150, but 0/50 work just as well - P95 fails in certain size tests will also give you more info about what you might need to adjust imo. MCH ref is also important, make sure this is tuned - best way is to test and find you own.
The System temperature is just that, just a sensor for the motherboard. No NB temps I'm afraid.
Anybody running the ddr3 version of this board, im wondering how it has matured does it clock well ? what is top rams speeds and cpu ?
Thanks for clearing up that system temp.
One thing I've noticed about my MCH ref is that I have to run it pretty far out of spec to get good results.
The default is as you know 0.76/1.10 = 0.69. With a 1.5v MCH ref I would need a 1.035 GTL value. Well if I set it to that my machine will blue screen while loading windows. I have to set my MCH REF to .901 or LOWER to get any good results. Right now I'm at .861/1.5 which is a .57 ratio which is much lower than the stock .69 I don't know if that means anything but I haven't tried messing with the skews yet, perhaps that'll change things.
I run the CPU REF right on normal and adjusting that either way doesn't seem to do much in the way of stability. I can run it either way pretty far out of spec and still boot.
I'm at 500x8 = 4GHz with 150/150 CPU/MCH skew and one bump up on the CPU REF to .88 and turned the VTT to 1.36 got me this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...56/results.png
I'm getting somewhere woohoo, that bump in the CPU REF helped stabilized my times. Before the first couple runs in the burn test were sub par then the last 3 were normal.
You really shouldn't need 1.5V for 500FSB :/
I use 1.36V, which seems high after coming from my P5Q Deluxe which did 512fsb 1.26Vnb
I wanted to buy a EP45-UD3P to replace my MIIF so I could have some fun benching my Q9650 outside in the snowy nights (-10 here at nights), but I can't find that mobo anywhere in Europe. Does someone happen to know a shop that still sells that board in Europe? The egg has it, but doesn't ship to Europe :(
P45 does have NB/SB/PWM and Motherboard sensors.
Motherboard is simply the surface temp (inside of your case temp) of the Mobo, it used to be near the CMOS Battery on older Mobos.
I cannot comment on if Gigabyte have readings for them all though.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9903/capturejt.jpg
Yes, but I can read the temps in many Programs I have installed.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9876/no2l.jpg
Ask In-Fluence where he bought his !
I got mine on a lucky one-off from belgium. It's worth looking amongst the european sellers - the one I bought was reasonably hidden away ;)
You can get from E Bay USA and it will cost about £100 inc Shipping.
Just make sure you get box marked as GIFT or RMA and value at MAX of about £40 or you could get hit with a TAX when you get it and then its not worth the cost.
I just had a really good look at a High RES photo of this Mobo and its sure one ugly f00ker, had a bad layout and looking at build quality which is basic with some parts cooled by non heatpipes and only push pins holding the sinks you wonder how the hell it clocks so far better than the Asus ROG's which look good and are built well with every part heatpiped cooled and all screwed down
I played around some more and got this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n856/500x8.png
GTL's are:
CPU REF = 0.916 for a 1.36vtt
MCH REF = 0.861 for a 1.46 MCH core
Still at 150/150 CPU/MCH skew. Haven't played with the vcore yet, I'm sure I can get it lower than 1.3 for 4GHz.