thank you for the replay; do you have the mushkin? can you post some screens of them? Thank you :)
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I don't have that particular kit, I have G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3 1600 8-8-8-21-2T, but from what I have read, that mushkin is some of the best, good OC headroom and fantastic timings.
For P6T 0403 Bios Up. 21x Multiplier doesn't work I'm afraid.
This sucks.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-0403.zip
For P6T Deluxe V2 bios 0302 21x fixed multiplier doesn't work:shakes:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/LG...XE-V2-0302.zip
I'm currently doing a 20 LinX pass at these settings:
i7 920 Batch #3836B
Multi = 21x
BCLK = 191
vCore(Bios) = 1.42
vCore(Idle) = 1.15 (Clocks down)
vCore(Load) = 1.416 - 1.424
QPI = 1.35
IOH = Auto
ICH = Auto
DRAM = Auto
Max memory and Max problem size LinX gives me a top temp of 87c on the first core. Is this to high?
It seems my chip won't accept a 19x multi, and even then it's very unstable and crashes when i launch Prime95.
This is my first OC ever, anyone got any tips?
Cheers.
Dump the Tuniq!
I have first hand experience with it on a qx6700. Check this out:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...00#post2089917
I don't understand :confused: I was p95 stable @3.8 w/1.24v with bios 1102 update to 1303 for 21x multi, found that didn't work for me was not stable..... even p95 would fail at my oc of 3.8 w/1.24v so I reverted back to 1102 and now suddenly that is not stable with my old settings :mad: even tried 1206 with no avail WTF. Any ideas on why or what's going on? Chip degradation already........
I thought mine was degrading until I found out it was heat preventing me from using previously working settings.
With the Zalman 9700 I am using p95 blend temps didn't exceed 77-78 right I'm looking over and seeing temps of 74-75
The 21x mult8iplaier is great.....the last 3003 bios is great :)
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...26_Cattura.JPG
Whats the major diferences from the P6T Deluxe to the normal P6T?
Thanks
Question: Should these settings be Enabled/Disabled?
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 19
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel (R) HT Techology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
A20M: Disabled
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: Disabled
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech: Disabled
mmz guy can someone please get on a the rails and link/tell me what bios options etc i best should disable?
Do you guys recommend that I first find the max bclck?
does those settings applie to me to ToMeGuN?
I'm new to oc'ing and I have a P6T Deluxe.
btw I was wondering since the 1303 bios you can go up to 21 with your cpu ratio.
Now intel said the 920 and 940 where locked to a bigger value but unlocked to a lower value.
Setting the cpu to 21 won't this permanently damage the cpu?
And by doing this the turbo feature doesn't work anymore right?
I'm stable at 4Ghz with HT on! :D
Think many are ;)
So BIOS 1303 is stable and recommended? I am still on 1003 because 1206 sucked.
Hey guys can I ask you how i can find the lowest possible QPI/DRAM Voltage? 1.35V is the max but with what kinda programs, tests I can test specific for the QPI stuff???
Any clue why I set QPI/Dram voltage to 1.35 on bios and on TurboV app shows 1.375 ? if I set 1 notch lower on bios it shows the correct number on TurboV :confused:
Nice, I'm back from a vacation wanting to try bios 1206 and suddenly 1306 is already released. Sweet!!!! Will give it a try tomorrow and will report back with some results.
Still want to try and get a OC profile 2 with a HT+OC setting saved. And want to check what max OC I can reach with HT disabled. What would you guys prefer for an OC with HT disabled:
1) Higher CPU speed;
2) Slightly lower CPU speed (-200Mhz over option 1) but higher RAM speed (+100Mhz over option 1).
What's the diference between using the last bios that gives us the 21x multi option vs using the Speed Steep like i'm using here:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3116/21x191.jpg
And any one tried flashing the V1 bios into a V2 board go get the 21x option running ?
Thanks.
Any reason why the gigabyte boards are so popular on this forum? What is the deal with this 21x multiplier option? Trying to decide between asus and gigabyte.
Im running a p6t watercooled system. I set CPU voltage to 1.6 PLL@1.96 QPI@1.45, everything else is at stock or auto settings.
[IMG]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a4da9eb5df.jpg[/IMG]
FYI, the 22x multi is nothing special, it should have worked since the boards were launched last year, but didnt because of some problem in the bios kernels apparently...
it only works if 3 cores are idle or sleeping, so its only useful for superpi or other apps that run single threadded.
Omg with 1.6vCore i think u can cook everything with the heat comes out of the CPU. The PPL@1.96v and QPI@1.45v is your 24/7 stable parameters?
BTW there is no official topic for the regular P6T?
Isn't that the vcore of a p4??????:eek::eek::shocked:
carefull guys....;)
Bios 1303 is tha bomb!!!! They finally solved the problem that I couldn't start EZ Flash and OC Profile program with RAID enabled. They fixed the multi with the ability to enable 21x. Also fixed the possibility to add a name to both the pre-defined OC profiles in the CMOS. And fortunately my current OC is still working on this bios.
Next step is to try and lower the volts as far as possible. And try to get a stable OC with HT enabled. I already tried to get such an OC but wouldn't get stable with HT enabled @ 4Ghz and vcore 1.5v (CPU-z). Getting a restart immediately after stressing with Prime. Hope this new bios slightly helps but I don't expect to much from it. Therefore should I increase QPI instead of vcore?
Settings used:
BCLK = 200
MP = 20x
QPI = 3600
Uncore = 3200
vCPU = 1.58v
PLL = 1.88v
QPI = 1.35v
DRAM = 1.64v
DRAM speed = 1200
Timings = 8-8-8-20-1T
HT = ON
Every other volt setting on AUTO.
Finally, I got these 2 i7 920 with my P6T Deluxe, a quick test....:)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9977/img0320.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9952/img0316w.jpg
4G @ 1.224V pass Superpi 32M, not bad
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1...superpi32m.jpg
4.2G @ 1.296V pass Superpi 32M
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3...superpi32m.jpg
223X19, direct enter windows7
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4888/223x19.jpg
4.611G, pass superpi1M
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3...1superpi1m.jpg
Finally, 4.66G cpuz validation
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...validation.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=524424
still waiting for my 2133F to test the QPI voltage with tighter/higher RAM frequency.......:(
Batch: Q3842A566 :)
That great results TinTin!
Can you share with us your bios settings? ( I cant pass 212 blck on SPi32M)
CPU Voltage:
CPU PLL Voltage:
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage:
IOH Voltage:
IOH PCIE Voltage:
ICH Voltage:
ICH PCIE Voltage:
DRAM Bus Voltage:
Load Line Calibration:
CPU Differential Amplitude:
CPU Clock Skew:
CPU Spread Spectrum:
IOH Clock Skew :
PCIE Spread Spectrum:
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting:
C1E Suppport:
Hardware Prefetcher:
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch
Intel® Virtualization Tech:
CPU TM Function:
Execute Disable Bit:
Intel (R) HT Techology:
Active Processor Cores:
A20M:
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech:
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech:
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech:
lol i need 1.42500 in my bios to get my 920 stable at 200*21 with HT off.
Funny fact is when I enable HT my temps go up about 10°C but my voltage stays the same... I though HT = more Vcore?
[QUOTE=hausner;3708182]That great results TinTin!
Can you share with us your bios settings? ( I cant pass 212 blck on SPi32M)
QUOTE]
For 223X19
CPU Voltage: 1.375V (maybe lesser)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.88V
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.5V
IOH Voltage: 1.28V
IOH PCIE Voltage: 1.5V
ICH Voltage: 1.1V
ICH PCIE Voltage: 1.5V
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.64V
Load Line Calibration:
CPU Differential Amplitude: 0.800mV
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLE
IOH Clock Skew : AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLE
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 19
C1E Suppport: DISABLE
Hardware Prefetcher: ENABLE
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch ENABLE
Intel® Virtualization Tech: DISABLE
CPU TM Function: DISABLE
Execute Disable Bit: ENABLE
Intel (R) HT Techology: ENABLE
Active Processor Cores: ALL
A20M:
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: DISABLE
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech: DISABLE
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech: DISABLE
My first 920 can't POST after 213bclk whatever the settings are, but after switch to this batch, it can POST at 228bclk(sometimes 227bclk), so there is bclk wall just like C2D. But my friend told me, these two 920 can POST more than 230bclk on his DFI DK, so also something related to MB when closing to their limit. ;)
So i take it this is one of the better boards?
Raise the pci-e to 110~112MHz, add a little voltage to stablize the pci-e and IOH to 1.2V may help~
I got a little higher bclk 224.31X19 :D
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5017/224x19.jpg
Finally got my P6T vanilla to 4 ghz. Couldn't get there with 20*200 needed to use 19*212. CPU volatge is 1.40000
CPU PLL-2.00
QPI/DRAM-1.38
DRAM Volt-1.58
CPU map-800mv
Quote:
TinTin;3710508]Raise the pci-e to 110~112MHz, add a little voltage to stablize the pci-e and IOH to 1.2V may help~
I got a little higher bclk 224.31X19 :D
Thanks for advice TinTin i will try this and i will let you know if helps.Maybe its my bad cpu(BCLK), dunno :(
AFAIK Asus p6t-dlx was the first to support new chipset and i7 cpus. So new rev or other brands (DFI,EVGA) can be better for max BCLK.Quote:
My first 920 can't POST after 213bclk whatever the settings are, but after switch to this batch, it can POST at 228bclk(sometimes 227bclk), so there is bclk wall just like C2D. But my friend told me, these two 920 can POST more than 230bclk on his DFI DK, so also something related to MB when closing to their limit.
Ok, I'm 100% stable @ 4Ghz with HT On, at 1.42v (CPU).
Am I going to degrade the life of my CPU like this? Should I go for 3.8Ghz and drop my voltage?
When you raise your PCI-E frequency you also make the HDD to try transfer data faster between Ram and Hdd and it is possible to create some data corruption.
Never knew that before either.
On the P6T Deluxe does it matter which Pci-e x16 slot that you should use for your GPU ? The reason I ask is that I have a PCI Asus Xonar sound card and if the gpu is in the first slot my sound card will cover the gpu's fan. I'd appreciate any info on this someone might have to share. Thanks
I don't know if this is the right place to ask for some ideas but since there's a P6T thread I thought this might be the best place to start.
I finally took delivery of my i7 system. Currently on a budget so it's lean at the moment but I was surprised by my first impressions which is that it doesn't seem to run particularly fast. In fact my current Athlon 2800 XP is perkier in many respects.
This is what I've got as a basic setup:
P6T Deluxe rev 1.xx
i7-920
Asus ATI 4850 512MB
Corsair 2GB DDR3 1333
Hitachi 1TB SATA
Pioneer IDE DVD 216
Win XP Pro
Out of the box without loading anything the company that put it together loaded XP Pro, drivers and AVG.
The only thing I've done is test the HDD which appears to be reasonable when tested with HDtach - 100 Sequential and 270 burst. The reason I did this was that there are two areas which bothered me.
1) Clicking back and forward through folders there's about a half second delay often. Instantaneous on my old rig.
2) Emptying the recycle bin takes a LOT longer than my old rig. Too long for what's in there.
apart from this scrolling doesn't seem that smooth again compared to my rig nor does any of the visual updates appear any quicker.
I really expected a big improvement on my old system without overclocking. It should be noticeable but it isn't, it's pretty clunky and unimpressive.
BIOS currently is set up with default settings. I've installed the Asus utils and confirm clock is not running in powersaving mode, although what I'm describing wouldn't happen on a 1GHz system let alone 2.66GHz. No change before or after this step.
I've also re-loaded the drivers in case something got missed out - to no avail.
This is the first time I've felt that a new Winxp install wasn't perky and responsive.
Currently I'm not keen to start transferring my stuff over to this computer until I can be satisfied it's running ok. God knows what it'd be like once the registry grows.
None of the components including having only 2GB ram really explain what's happneing here.
My question would be, is there a feasible reason why this is happening with a bios in it's default setting?
Has anyone experienced a problem when building a similar system? Perhaps there's something about this Motherboard that needs tweaking before it starts to perform?
Is there a particular recommendation for checking this out with a utility that might point to the root of the problem (preferably a free one)?
Try updating bios if you haven't. Also your not running ram in tri-channel, so probably ddr3 dual channel ram?
My quicktest result on air with:
Asus P6T deluxe
Procie i7 920 Batch Q842A372
HSF Thermolab BARAM with 12" Delta 3A
Kingston KHX16000C9 3 x 1GB
HDD SAS 10K 146GB x 2 (RAID0)
8800GTS 512MB
PSU Silvertsone Olympia 1000W
Stable 3D @4,2GHZ BCLK 200 x 21/Mem 2000 CL 8-8-8-24/Uncore 4000 but needs high Vcore (1.53V)
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/q...ol/i788gts.jpg
Quick HDD bench test with HDtach
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/q...gkol/i7sas.jpg
I noticed many people disabling the CPU TM Function. Is there a particular reason for disabling that setting? I have it still enabled with my current OC (see sig) and I can't really tell that enabling CPU TM Function is holding me back to OC my CPU even further.
Hi All-
I haven't had a lot of time to play with my system but I have a _6T Deluxe with an i7 920. I need to reapply my thermal paste (I used some old stuff that's lying around and it seems not to be working well) but I have another problem that seems to be discussed. This machine doesn't get used more than 3 hours a day, but it has some shared files on it so I keep it sleeping with wake up on LAN. When it sleeps, most of the time I can't get it to turn back on properly. The spacebar/mouse doesn't wake it up so I have to hit the power button. The drives spin up and it appears the machine is on but the screen never turns on and I end up hard powering down.
Now, the weird part is most of you say this S3 bug only happens with a BCLK above 170. I'm running everything at stock here so I don't know why I'd be having the problem. Any tips? I'm probably a BIOS or two old so maybe this was fixed in a new BIOS version and I just don't know it.
THanks,
Chris
I believe it was fixed in the new BIOS, which was released last week.
Coincidentally, mine would not boot into ExpressGate, only Windows or BIOS if I overclock. New BIOS and voila! Works flawlessly.
Whelp, unfortunately, the BIOS update didn't do it. I still couldn't come out of sleep. I then unplugged all of my USB devices except my mouse and keyboard. That lets me get out of sleep once, but the second time I'm SOL. I tried to Hibernate instead, but the darn things hibernates and then restarts immediately.
So, I know the Gigabytes have this issue too as do the other Asus boards. Any X58 board that's working properly with sleep mode?
Yeah I have both a P6T and a Deluxe and waking from S3 sleep is like a craps shoot, not sure why it doesn't work all the time or with any consistency.
As for the manner in which you wake the system can be enabled in the bios which are all disabled by default, I use the spacebar to wake or attempt to wake.
I've given up on sleep mode for the time being and its a shame considering how useful a normally operating sleep mode is.
Before I leave my P6T-D, running a 4711MHz and 4677 passed SPI 1M with water cooling, then I will switch to DFI X58 DK :)
Mine was stopped everything at 225bclk! But it is still a fair good MB. I think.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5210/4677superpi1m.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/4711validation.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=529047
Thanks for the reply highoctane. Is it just mean, or is it a little ridiculous that a $300 motherboard after 4 months can't suspend properly? I guess I should really be complaining to Intel since this appears to be a X58 problem....
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5210/4677superpi1m.jpg
As u wish,:)
PCI-e = 115
same settings for 4711MHz capture.
is 115 pcie even safe with an adaptec card installed?
how do i update the bios?
it is official asus p6t series will have all the cpu ratio at 21x and 23x for i7 920 and i7 940!!!!!
this is the new bios released for asus p6t ws revolution look what they wrote :) great!!!!!!
P6T6 WS Revolution BIOS 0407 - 2009/03/16 update
1. Updated CPU micro code(s):
* M03106A5_0000000F - Intel Nehalem-EP D-0 Nehalem-WS 1S D-0 Bloomfield D-0
* M03106A4_0000000F - Intel Nehalem-EP C-0 Bloomfield C-0
2. Support i920 CPU ratio up to 21 and i940 up to 23 in BIOS setup.
In RealTemp. This is with bclock at 191Mhz and cpu voltage at 1.4125v set in BIOS, water cooled. If I run LinX with these settings, the multiplier drops to 20x in RealTemp and the PC will crash shortly thereafter because 20x is significantly less stable than 21x.
I use bios 1303 on P6T Deluxe and it already has the 21x multi implemented. You can now not only choose 20x but 21x as well. That way it won't automatically revert to 20x and will stick at 21x when set at that value in the bios.
No, you are both incorrect. I am well aware of how to use the 21x multiplier. I have it keyed in directly for the CPU Ratio in the Ai Tweaker section of the BIOS.
I have disabled SpeedStep, C1E, CPU TM Function and Turbo Boost.
Under idle conditions, and moderate to heavy loads, the multiplier remains at 21x as it should. However, under extremely heavy loads, such as linpack in 64-bit mode with the maximum amount of memory being used, the multiplier drops to 20x. The drop shows up in RealTemp and CPU-z and Everest.
Prime95 does not cause the multiplier to drop to 20x. So far, linpack (using LinX) is the only load that causes it to drop that I have found. And not surprisingly, linpack also gets the temperature a good bit hotter than Prime95 as well.
This is directly related to the TDP and current limitations on the non-EE i7 CPUs. The Asus BIOS does not properly disable them, so when the CPU is loaded heavily enough and set at a high enough voltage and clock speed, the multiplier will drop.
Set your P6T Deluxe to 191 bclock with the 21x multiplier and use 1.4125 core voltage, and load the CPU with LinX using the maximum amount of memory, and monitor the multiplier with the latest version of RealTemp.
For me, it drops almost immediately after LinX initiates the full load (takes a few seconds after you hit start).
I run 21x191 and when under load mine never drops from the 21 multiplier whether its Linx or two days of prime95.
EDIT: I am on water cooling for that rig though and temps peak in the low 70ish area.
I am also on water cooling and my temps have peaked at 82C with LinX. This should not trigger throttling though as I have TM Function disabled. The only explanation is the current and TDP limitations of the non-EE i7 CPUs. And what voltage do you use? Try with 1.4125v. And of course, make sure HT is enabled.
I have run and prime tested at 191x21 at 1.425 originally and have since lowered the vcore to 1.3875 since it seems I only need 1.425 to run 20x200, HT is on as indicated in my sig. I have SS's of the rig running well over 24hrs while priming at 191x21 at 1.3875 vcore, HT enabled.
I'm not disputing your issue but I'm simply stating that during weeks or I guess months now of tinkering and stability testing my P6T Deluxe rig at various settings it has never throttled down from the 21 multiplier under load. Systems can be qwerky sometimes and its not always possible for somebody else to duplicate a seemingly problematic issue that somebody else is having.
If I get a chance I'll up the vcore and double check if there is any throttling on my particular rig even though I know there isn't just for the sake of clarity.