http://www.abload.de/img/psu_1koj8.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/psu_29ojn.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/fankabeloper.jpg
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now THAT one is an interesting sleeve job, kudos
Great convination.
Im thinking about which colours I will use, because I've got a blue motherboard (ep45-ud3p) a true copper (could be orange if you want) and a lot of hardware in black. So I was thinking about sleeving all in black with some stripes of blue and orange. Also I would have the gray colour inside the case.
What you think?
I think black and blue are a good choice. Here I buy
You can find pictures here
would 70' be enough to do a whole psu in 1/8? was gonna do a few fans also.
what is everyone using for the killer white sleeving??
http://www.abload.de/img/molexccna.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/lfterkabelrhs0.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/sleeveblauschwarz4kyi.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/sleevealleslcpj.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt-2cc1j.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt-1tk8g.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt-4awbt.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt-3svtd.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt-18rur.jpg
Great pictures and sleeve job Tommy_Hewitt!
30? Lol, there are 3 other (older) threads with much more pages full of sleeve-pr0n :p
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...t=Kabelmodding
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...t=Kabelmodding
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...t=Kabelmodding
Edit: F*ck, too slow -.-"
You'd checked the MDPC-Shop? www.mdpc-x.com
didn't see white listed there. . . .
edit: i'm blind, it's in the german side, but I had looked at the eng side. . .
Soon on murderMod - don't worry. MDPC-X is just my laboratory and therefore just for Germany or German speaking people - it is experimental and final results go to murderMod exclusively. Please erase mdpc-x from you brains if you don't know German language :D
And yes: The german threads are a world of its own with extremely elegant modding - just better don't look there. The level that is reached there makes me very proud, because it meets exactly the style I love so much :)
Is the white sleeving the "White Accent Sleeving" in the Murdermod Psychopack?
Dangals, what happend to all the guide pics?
This guide should be a sticky if it's not allready.
Im not suprised! I read it a couple of weeks ago and I instatly wanted to sleave every cable I got in my case ; )
But I need to see how you took the 24 pin MoBo cable apart. I hoping for pictures soon.
Thanks for a excelent guide man, really appreciate your hard work!
Allright, I seem to be getting somewhere now. So let's see what options are available to me. .
- In your opinion, what is the best White Sleeving available, that is not MM stuff (since I don't speak German)??
- What's the right size, or provide link , crimping tool if you want to build your own cables? Google just confused me as there are so many different choices. . .
- Standard Gauge for PSU wires? And are they all the same?
Thanks for the help!
With white tape under the cable you can use any 1/8" white sleeving - even the worst (like AC-Ryan or Techflex Flexo PET) - to achieve a pure white look from the distance. On closeup view you would see the open weave extremely and it still looks like a plastic cable because of that.
Since you are from Sweden - maybe go to www.reichelt.de - enter "PSK Crimpzange" into the search field - and order this fantastic tool. Supergood and very price-friendly.
At ATX usually AWG18 and AWG20 is used. The smaller the number, the bigger the cable.
Hey Nils <3
Hey Dreamaxx <3 :D
:smileysex:? :D
JUST KIDDING!
the white one:
http://www.abload.de/img/sleevekleinh7gc.jpg
Tommy, the way you sleeved the Black & Blue is the way I wanted mine!
Nice Sleeving
Beautiful, Tommy.
Some of us are waiting very patiently for more sleeving options to be released in North America, 'cause all the good stuff is locked up in the MDPC-X labs :)
Hmm...I just ordered a whole bunch of white and red sleeving, for 2 PSUs.
Been looking for White sleeving, and it seems that I could only get from PPC PET sleeving...
Anyways, would hope to see those White/Red sleeving on MurderMod webbie....black is getting too boring.
:up:
@Tremeloes
Is that the original that you used in your case, the TF PET with white tape underneath? Or the MDPC new stuff? I ask because I think it looks pretty good, not as bad close up as I thought (if it is taped) would look. . . .
Hi.
I'm planning on sleeving everything sleevable in my rig, and I have some questions:
If I sleeved my Enermax Revolution 85+ removing the original sleeving, will be the warranty void? Or is it simple to re-sleeve it (not in hours, I mean Enermax can't detect I've replaced the original sleeving).
And another question regarding MDPC-X. I have seen some sleeving in this thread using white, blue... sleeving. Are those sleeving from MDPC-X? Could it be possible to get red sleeving? To match my rig theme (red and black - Classified, Perfect Storm, Revolution 85+)
Manyy thanks.
Please make this a sticky thread, very useful, also I noticed some of the pocs photobucket bandwith limit reached.
it is one layer of TF Pet, one layer of this click and there is white tape underneath.
i removed the last layer on a few wires because the wires got a little big thick.
Pics Back Up!! :D
OOooh, pictures! Gonna do me some sleeving tonight!
Does MDPC-X not ship to North America? Or is it just that you're waiting so you don't have to pay overseas shipping fees?
Im so eager to try out my new sleevings its crazy...
Sucks I have to wait til Friday since my psu wont be here until then..
Why cant we have more dependable better priced e-tailers on the west-coast!!
My home made pin remover.
Before.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...s/IMG_1703.jpg
After.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...s/IMG_1705.jpg
And sleeved :)
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/IMG_1960.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/IMG_1961.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/IMG_1962.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/IMG_1969.jpg
Brad, what sleeves u used?
What size screwdriver is that?
Anyone have a good method of removing PSU pins that didn't come out with the wire?
What's the neatest way to do the cables on the Corsair HX1000 where they enter the PSU? On my first one, I ended my uni-sleeving about 10 inches from the end, but I'd like to take this one all the way.
I've searched through the pics here, and about half of the ones on the German threads linked earlier but still no clear idea of how to do it. Thought of taking the cover off to heatshrink into the opening, but that doesn't appear to be as easy as I thought it might be :p:
For those who can't afford a sleeving kit at the moment... try braiding your wires. ;)
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8302/p1020044k.jpg
Any update on when the colored sleeving will be available on the website (specifically the green)? I'd like to get some for accent use with by DFI build
yea lookin to get some of that mdpc-x sleeving from murdermod!
im facing the same dilemma with my HX1000, so far i have sleeved all the way to the PSU getting the shrink right up to the hole... you have to be very careful when shrinking the shrink not to burn the cluster of cables around it, its very tight...
what im planning at the moment is to sleeve each cable right to the end, then once its done, use some of the big heatshrink, maybe 3cm or so of it, so encase the whole lot right at the hole...
i think that will look neater than having all the uni-sleeved endings right at the hole
edit: Shazza, if you do end up pulling your HX1000 apart and sleeving internal, please take pics and post how you did it, i also thought about pulling it apart, but once i started looking at its construction i got scared lol
OMG im having the worst luck, im trying to de pin the 6 pin PCI-E cable and no go, i cannot get the damn cables out for sleeving with the murdermod pack i just bought, i have tried staples, pins and i cannt get it either far enough in or not a good technique. I can do the 3 pin fan ones fine but my god in cracking the :banana::banana::banana::banana:s on this.
Any tips on staples. I have just got standard ones. Do i need bigger? to seems a sug fit though of the standard size.
[QUOTE=Tommy_Hewitt;3773702]http://www.abload.de/img/molexccna.jpg
where do you buy this sucker? make it? i have a mate who has a dremel
i=and i have tried this to
http://i44.tinypic.com/kdpfgx.jpg
The best tip is to use two staples instead of one - this gives you a better chance of pusing the tabs down on each side of the pin - plus use something hard to force the staple in rather than your fingers to ensure the staple is all the way in before trying to remove the pin.
That is the MDPC-X version of the remover made by Molex - can also be purchased from MurderMod
i currently have 2 staples in atm i might try and get then in further....i'll be back.
this is bs no go! fumming now lol. i must keep pushing though.
d u roughly know how far the staple need to be in to actually hit the tab?
i keep trying but nothing.....not sure what to do now, the cable is from a gigabyte odin 800 watt psu if that means anything?
Get a pair of pliers and use it to push the staple in.
All from WWW.ChilledPc.co.uk
umm not sure, just found it in the shed. The shaft is about the same thickness as a 5.5mm drillbit.
Nice photo and sleeving Nils :wave:
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2028/Xtr...s/IMG_9516.jpg
Had some fun with the heatshrink + pin remover. Much better grip now :D
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2028/Xtr...s/IMG_9512.jpg
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2028/Xtr...s/IMG_9506.jpg
outstanding Metric!
Perfect sleeve and photos you have :)
all these sleeving pictures are not helping my bad spending habits... rent money... TECHFLEX... food money... 3:1 shrink... gas money... new psu to sleeve...
I am indeed stuck in a monetary dilemna :rofl:
try this
1. use a knife or scissors and *carefully* remove all the stock sleeving and heat shrink from the cables
2. now that you have access to the entire length of the individual cables, make use of it, starting at the end that are not trying to remove, wrap the single cable around your hand right up to the point where there is only a few inches of length remaining on the end that you want to pull it out from
3. insert your removal tool, i found using a single staple, bend into the right shape to do the best job
4. get it in there tight, i would use a bit of force (not enough to bend the staple, but a bit), and bang the connector on the bench to kind of hammer it in there
5. using all the leverage u have with your hand with the cable wrapped around it, pull hard and sharp, to anchor the connector down i would have it under the palm of my other hand and most of my body weight pressing down on it, i also had a towel or piece of cloth between the connector and that hand to prevent cuts
other tips
- try to pull perfectly straight so you are not pulling the cable on an angle and causing unnecessary friction
- if its not working, try another connector, and then another and another till you find one that does come out, once you get one out, youll get more confidence and find ways to do the harder ones
- it is possible than the retention pin on the atx connector (thats the bit that you are pressing in with the staple/removal tool) will get bent in the process, use a pin to get it back into shape before re-inserting the connector after sleeving
good luck
Helpful tips, MulletBoy. BTW, I still haven't tackled my Corsair HX1000 sleeving yet. It's all de-pinned and ready to go, but I'm a bit shy about messing it up!
shazza havent you sleeved your hx1000 before in a MM build recently
you could do it !
i do the cables one at a time so i dont get them out of order... how do you deal with this when you de-pin the whole thing?
do you just label every wire with tag? i know when i do USB, Audio or Firewire cables (where all the wires are in one sleeve) i take before photos where i can see the wire colors, as well as drawing a little diagram with the colors matched to their sockets
mullet boy i just thought of a really cool idea as i read your post
it was to have a little punch out holes in a peace of thick photo paper with different pin out readings for your motherboard molex usb audio etc..
this way you could de pin the whole thing and put them in the correct holes and use that to put them back in
There are pics readily available on the web of the pin diagram for the 24-pin cable, plus you can just plug them in the appropriate order into a piece of styrofoam.
@ Cosmos ... yep, this is my second one. De-pinning took about 30 minutes max compared to a couple of days the first time around. Also, minimal cuts :p: I found the part that was hardest on my fingers is removing the pins from the PCI-E connector, cause it's rather sharp. I know I can do it, just want to get the end pieces right.
Thanks Mullet i will try that tonight after work, atm my Father in law is attempting to make a de pinner today using a dremel and wiper blade metal.
honestly iv found staples to work really well... you just need to straighten it, then bend it in the exact centre so that both points come to the same length, then get the spacing right so it will fit down the sides of the pin but inside the connector
push it in as far as u can using your fingers, then hammer it in by tapping it on a bench
if you have any atx connectors that are whiteish clearish you should be able to see how far the staple is in and if it has gone in all the way, then note the point on the staple and when you use it on black connectors, youll know if it is in far enough
i originally tried using 2 staples at once, but found it too arkward to get them both in and it provided no advantage, i just use 1 staple.
the key is leverage... if you are pulling using only your fingers and grip on the cable from within a few inches of the pin itself, you most likely have no hope, get the entire length of the cable wrapped around your hand and your whole weight on the connector by either sitting on it your using your (protected) palm
pull straight and hard
the worst case scenario of pulling too hard when the staple is not actually pushing the pins in is that the connector will pull out, and the retaining pins in the connector will be bent back on themselves.... this happened to me once on one side of a connector, i used a pin to bent it back into shape and it was good as new
the retention pins are far weaker then the connection between the cable and the pin, so i don't think you could possibly pull the cable out and leave the pin in the connector
I've done that a few times (the wire comes out but the pin stays put)
its happened to me with a 20 pin cable, and with a 4 pin molex (had to buy pins and a crimp tool to get it all working nicely again, still doesnt look anything like from the factory but i'm not trying anymore)
I never found staples worked. I used different sizes and what not, but they never seemed to work well. I used the Murdermod cheap de-pinner and I made my own out of a screw driver as backup, push it in, popped the wires out, I used gloves as well which helps a ton with cuts.
yeah i tried for hours with the staples and no go, i will update tonight with the custom de pinner.
Or buy one.
Does anyone know where I can get the white triple threaded sleeving besides the german website?
I plan on buying the murder mod black set, but the only place I can find the white is the german (i think its german) milliondollar pc site.
final note... I would like a website/company that ships from america.
thanks,
Phil
I'm not sure if the MDPC white sleeving is available in the US yet, but you can try sending a PM to BlueAqua - he's handling the US shipments for murderMod.
OK ... I've spent most of the day playing with my sleeving technique and learned a lot. While it's still fresh on my mind, I thought I'd share it here (warning ... lots of pics).
I successfully completed sleeving of a Corsair HX1000 W PSU - not perfect but passable. Now doing a Torture Rack build (Silverstone DA750 PSU) where the sleeving will be very visible. My first practice run on the PCI-E cable:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...89_hguHJ-L.jpg
It looks okay in the pic, but closer examination shows a not so good fit with the heatshrink and the PCI-E connector:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...85_hLhTg-L.jpg
So, I tried four different placements of the heatshrink, and thought I'd found the answer:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...76_BdeMs-L.jpg
The top example seemed to fit nicely into the connector, with no wire showing:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...25_hjKgA-L.jpg
But, on close inspection, it looked like it wouldn't take much for the yellow/black wires to poke out of the bottom of the connector:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...24_AvR6s-L.jpg
Dualbrain visited my worklog, and gave me a hint. He said to place the heat shrink further up on the pin. I doubted the wisdom of this, because I thought I would then have problems getting the heatshrink-covered wire all the way into the connector. But, trusting he knew what he was talking about, I tried again:
A little hard to see in this pic, but on the left most wire I placed the heatshrink all the way up the pin - to just below where the little tabs come out to hold it in the connector. It didn't work, wouldn't fit into the connector.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...63_jVygv-L.jpg
So, still figuring he knew what he was talking about, I tried again. This time, I placed the heatshrink lower, just below where a small piece of metal sticks out from the crimped wire - see middle wire in the pic above. It worked fabulously.
The third wire (bottom) is the same as the middle wire, but with the connector added. A peek into the bottom of the connector shows it fitting all the way in, and the pin is snug:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...57_FCwsV-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...13_5kz6t-L.jpg
Now I'm quite happy, but it gets better. Liderc comes along and makes a suggestion to make sure the sleeving is placed very near the entrance to the connector - makes it easier to keep everything uniform. So, I had to give that a try:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...75_4SGzY-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...62_3ZLvF-L.jpg
Thank you to both dualbrain and Liderc! You can see my heatshrink still isn't perfect in the last pic - still have to improve measuring and cutting even heatshrink pieces.
And, I'd also like to thank Dangals for starting this excellent thread. And, of course, thanks to BlueAqua for providing the blue MDPC-X sleeving and heatshrink.
A couple other notes ... I used staples to de-pin my first PSU, because I quickly broke the tool you can buy. Now, I'm using the tool and not having much of a problem. It takes just a tic to remove the pins. Secret is to work at a table, make sure the tool prongs are on the outside of the pin, and pull straight out.
I know this is probably repeat stuff for many of you, but some of this eluded me, even after having studied this thread and numerous other resources!
^^ that looks absolutly super.
I am trying to get some sleeving done here, but unlike you guys I plan to sleave the entire bunch together. My PSU is already sleeved and I just wanted to change it from black to chrome. SO do you guys have any ideas on where I can get chrome sleeves which are expandable and would go over the pins. I plan to sleeve both the PCIE, 24 pin, 4/8 pin and the sata connectors. Thanks.
thanks for the input Shazza - your work and pics are amazing and I am glad you were able to get something out of my guide!
Keep up the good work and I expect some pics of your torture rack build in here once you are finished :up:
@mav2000 - not sure about chrome sleeving - the only chrome version I am aware of is mylar sleeving however it is not a very thick weave and will show through cables the moment it is stretched even a fraction.
If anyone else has some input on this it would be appreciated :yepp:
@shazza - awesome job!! That mdpc stuff keeps getting better and better (now if they could just get a english flag on the website so I can order from zé german side. . .) everytime I see it.
@mav2000 - I bought mine from ppc's - and to be honest I wouldn't use it again. I think it's the standard stuff that everyone has (seen it on cableorganizer.com for example). it comes in only 3 sizes and if you want to individually sleeve your wires it's just too big. My only solution was to do 2 wires at a time, and even then I wasn't really happy with the final result. Depending on the bend of the wires, it's possible to see some wires sticking through. On top of that, the heatshrink didn't really like the mylar either, I had to redo several wires. I didn't use glue shrink, so maybe that would be better.
Anyway - here's a quick look
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h.../logans086.jpg
if you want some more pics check my siggy. . .
just arrived...
http://www.abload.de/img/a064351lr.jpg
this is realy amazing! i like this mods, thanks for recipe :up:
shazza, do you use hot scissors to cut the sleeving?
She uses her hot-fingernails :D
aka_GK: Just a good scissor and afterwards a little bit of "drive-by-melting" with a lighter and you are better than good to go.
so much sleeving this week and at the end you don´t see verry much of it. :D
http://www.abload.de/img/a0750bmhg.jpg
http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0694q4gi.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0695l3c9.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a068971r6.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0686g8fl.jpg
http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0685i66t.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0678cu15.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0674tikt.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/a0667eycy.jpg
That's what it's all about. Perfection in corners that you can't usually see, but you know that you could look into them. :)
This thread has been awesome sleeved wires are so pretty lol :D I cant wait till I get some of my stuff in so I can start sleeving :rolleyes:
Hi guys I have an Ultra 1000w psu it's modular of course but I was wondering about the 24 pin atx motherboard cable. I am going to sleeve my system right up as described in this killer guide.
Should I build another 24 pin male to male cable (if so any pointers) or do you know where I can find a male to male 24 pin ATX pre-built (ideally black).
I am building a tiny little Danger den Water Box system and the psu is right next to the motherboard so the cable management will only be 4 inches and I don't want to carve up the original atx any ideas?
I just hoping I could keep the original cables just that, original.
Thanks
btw I am in Canada if that helps. It almost never does.
Ha very true it would be bad but ROTF with one would be worse. The 24 pin extension would not do me any good because I have a modular psu it must be male on both ends. So I told Richard at Ultra I would sing his praises or more specifically Ultra's. I sent them an email and explained my situation and they offered to send me an 24 pin atx the 8 pin esp and a sata cable. I was very im pressed with the customer service and told them so. I will let you know if the cables do arrive at my door. Either way I am very happy with my Ultra SLI x3 1000w power supply.
I was wondering if anyone knows where i might get some of that super high quality red and white sleeving ? I am doing a Danger Den water box acrylic project with a Canadian theme like the flag with red and white sleeving and some white powder coating work. Please let me know I am not having any luck finding the good stuff featured in this thread. Thanks
That is beautiful sleeving, you were posting yours while at the same time I was asking if anyone new where to find red sleeving that is weird. I wish the mdpc stuff was available in Canada. Nice work by the way.Quote:
its mdpc-x.com sleeve :)
Hi titus1972 - I was going to suggest you contact Ultra about getting a spare cable - sounds like you've done that and are set.
I'm in a similar predicament to you ... with the DD Torture Rack and a 100% modular PSU. I bit the bullet and went ahead and cut my ATX cable to the length I wanted, crimped new connectors and so on. Here's a pick of Work in Progress:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...94_HFCaE-L.jpg
Still need to take pics of the final product, but I probably cut mine a little too short. Make sure you leave enough play in there to arrange the uni-sleeved cables nicely ;)
nice work shazza :)
What's name of that tool with blue handles? I guess it's for placing pins onto the cable?
I'm not sure I can find it here in my local stores, is it available in shops like ppc or frozen?
sorry for too much questions :D
No problem, aka_GK. Yep, it's a crimping tool - available at the stores you mentioned, or probably any local store that sells electical wiring and supplies.
Hej Shazz, I'm not getting that ATZ cable. That looks like an extension right? 'Cause otherwise the other end would be soldered to the PCB board, and not needing . . . waita minute. Doh! I get it now. .
I just LOL'ed myself to spare you all from doing that. . .
Who makes your sleeving (at least an honest question)?