Did you try 500x8 with your Formula?Quote:
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Did you try 500x8 with your Formula?Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Yup. And 7 and 6. It could maybe doubtfully be memory. It works fine on all of my nforce boards though at 1000mhz. Tried 4gb too didnt help :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Those are great VID's. as mine is 1.2500 and I need over 1.33v to get 4.0 Ghz stable. I was worried when I saw 1.2500 but it seems like ALL of these things are clocking great.
Also Devious. I can't believe your complaining.. Thats so NOT fair. you're very very lucky to be prime stable at 4.0 Ghz with only 1.23v like that first shot you put up. I need 1.3312v to be Prime stable at 4.0 Ghz. also at 4.0 your full LOAD temps are around 45c. thats very very good for air cooling. I WISH mine were that good, and you said you were not happy with the temps. lol.
So. I lapped my Tuniq. and now my Q9650 at 4.0 Ghz idles around 34c but I've yet to replace the top 120mm fans on my case, I ordered new ones. so maybe they will help my temps.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8185/1000530sg5.jpg
I'm thinkin about getting the TRUE instead. as I'm still not happy with temps. Loads are around 61/55/55/55 or so. I've seen many people with same, or higher clocks get better, and lower load temps. just like devious. I know he's on less voltage but still. these temps just aren't good enough for me.. I know the true is a little better. you guys think I'd benefit from getting the TRUE.
as i posted earlier I idled mine about 12 hrs , then did a Light O/C for the next 2 days off & on , then stock voltages as I primed it for an hour at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Think it's like a new racecar run it easy at 1st but run it thru the gears idle/load/idle/load/idle/load/idle but not balls to the walls,or Redline it , till she's broke in !
I've been messing about with this CPU trying to get it as far as I can within reasonable voltages and this is what I reached with a vcore of 1.42 actual. These are not prime stable, but they are benchmark stable. In terms of prime stability I'm only up to 474*9 at 1.4v with all other voltages fairly low.
I was aiming for 4.5GHz with my ram at 1200MHz. Not there yet...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...body/oc490.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...body/oc495.jpg
Drop some water on that Puppy & yer off to the Races !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
But Really .. Yes get a True ! but also play with settings as u should be able get the Volts down & still get to stable ,, but everyone's boards/setups are different soo what one guy gets u might not , but also you are getting better O/C's than some PPl also ! ............
I mangaged to get 4ghz @ 1.32 volts in cpu-z @ load. Temps are idol 28 and load 54 after 2 hours prime stable. Off now for a night out on the town now so will post back when I get up. Gona try and drop voltage abit seen as this was first I tried. mines a 1.25 but flys
Thanks mate I'll do that as soon as I finish my project build (see sig).Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
I vote against the True, go water or you probably won't see a that huge temperature difference. I know you want to use your hard earned cash anyways. :p:
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Originally Posted by pascalbrown
Nice FSB, what motherboard are you using ?
Well my volts are 1.3312 in Bios.. and in CPU-Z they show as 1.296v and thats where I'm stable in prime.. you think I could go lower?
also yea I'm probably going to get a true. as they are a lil better. I would consider going water, but I for one don't know anything about it. nor I have the cash ATM. what about something like the swiftech 220?
I think my signature should now appear below! Abracadabra! I'm having issues gaining stability though. Seems I can't fine tune the gtl or I'm not prepared to give it enough juice. I don't know yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious
Edit; I am totally stable at my sig settings, but need more.
go water with a Vtec V2,or swiftek GTZ, a DDC3 pump & the swifty Rad's are more bang for yer buckQuote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
If you are going to just cool the CPU the 220 would be fine. If you want to cool the video card too, then do like Big Slappy says and get the individual parts. I had a Swiftech H2O Compact 120 cooling my Q6600 for awhile and it kept the temps under 60 degrees under load (ambient 27). It was OC to 3.6Ghz at 1.47v vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
well to be honest.. I don't really need to water cool my GFX card. ya it might help a little bit, and maybe, maybe I could Oc it more. but I've not had any problems with heat with it so far.
I've been able to get the max OC with the shaders stopping me, not heat. With it from 576 Mhz core to 744 Mhz core my temps on full load stay around 61c. thats not bad at all considering how high it's clocked.
Maybe later I'd get something for it. But if anything I just wanna water the CPU, as I'm not happy about current temps... So the Swifty 220 is for the CPU only. and it's not to expensive. like $139.99 or so. would it last,
and how good of quality are there parts. I'd not want any leaks.
Also I'm missing my top mounted 120mm exhaust fan as it was to big for it, and my Tuniq in there. So I've ordered some smaller 120mm Medium speed YateLoons. they will be here tomorrow. I'll try those out. if they
don't help my temps. Mainly my load temps. then I'll be even more upset. as before I lapped the Tuniq, or took out the fans that were to big, at 4.050ghz my load temps were 61/55/55/55 and now they get over that
within 5 minutes. so hopefully the new fans will help, otherwise I'll try a re-seat, if that doesn't work, then It will be either a TRUE, or H2O..
just wondering what software you used to clock ur graphics to overclock and test. And how do you do the vdroop mod. It won't make alot of diffrence gettin water cooling if it internal.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
Hi,what'is the CPU GTL Reference ideal for Q9650?
Got my vcore down a little.
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6...10hourbwh2.jpg
I got a new toy today.
Q9650
Q822B344
1.225 VID
After about 1 hour of playing I got this:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6742/34490174vf8.png
Nice chip, Gurusan. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
I use eVGA Precision to overclock my GPU, and I use my BIOS for the CPU. I also stress test with Prime95, and sometimes OCCT. then with the GPU I just play games.. if it can handle MAX settings playing some intense
parts of Crysis, then the GPU at that clock should be able to handle most things.. IMO. So thats what I do. and 3DMark06 of course.. I shoud use vantage since I got it free and have DX10. but I like 06 better.
and Devious. I hate your volts and chip, thats one of the better I've seen. 1.216v at 4.0 ghz. I can't do that at stock speed on mine. well maybe, not tried. (I remember a long time ago hearing about starving the CPU of volts
when you first get it. Like setting less volts. it gets used to it, and then can run with less. is that at all realistic?) yea, I hate your temps and your voltage. totally great. Wanna swap Q9650's.
and gurusan thats a pretty great chip you got there. I wish I had a better VID. I really do, but I can't complain at 4.2 Ghz stable. thats just not something to be complaining about ya know!
How about to buy better board ? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
yeah xguntherc, it could be your board holding you back. What's the VID on your chip?
It's not the board.. I've got to 470 FSB.. and still going.. My vid is 1.2500.. thats part of it. But either way it still clocks great.
I've yet to try to go any higher than 470 FSB, and 1.345v but I will soon.
above post I was joking BTW!
HAS anyone seen the Massive O/C's they are getting with this P45 board ?? ordered one today( on sale today & FREE shipping ! NewEgg Love !) & some G.Skill super PI (also on sale )
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...75#post3356475
here 's the another post by FUGGER
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=204277
gonna see what my Q9650 will do with this MoBo & the Super PI G.Skill's
Installed a P5Q Deluxe tonight hoping to get more than the 465FSB on my X38, its not looking good. I can just about boot at 470 but no more. It also fails prime blend around 460fsb. I thought these P45 were supposed to be the FSB kings.
Sorry to go off topic here :
@Devious : They are, but your ram isn't really liked by the board... have you tried 1406 bios ? 500FSB was really no issue on my 2 boards with the quad...with Mushkin and Gskill PC8000 ram 1081Mhz is absolutely no issue, Mushins 4gb kit can even do 1120mhz... the reapers I had were troublesome...
http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/500-1200prime.jpg
I had the p5q dlx and it would not get my q9650 over 455 stable tried everything ended badly killing my 9800 gx2, had to reinstall windows 3 time and the memory hole we wont go there. As well as never wanted to boot first time. Wait or anytime to be honest tried all the bios even a default never wanted to play. Good luck! I went for the evga 780i not had a problem since booted first time @ 4.050 and screams though every game save youself time and money and send it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious
Sorry my sig is out of date, im actually running 4GB OCZ flex 9200, which can do over 1100mhz. Those reapers were awful, got rid of those quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I have tried the 1406 bios and it hasnt made any difference.
Can I ask what settings you have used ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
Interesting, my x38 got as high fsb as this P45 and the x38 are spposed to suck with yorkies.
I wonder if there is a board out there to get this to 500fsb ? I thinking this is more of a cpu wall, shame if it is as its using no vcore for high clocks.
Yeah they are ! checkout those links i post beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
540 FSB on air with a GigabitEP45-UD3P ! And that's with a QX9650 bet the Q9650 can pass that !
we'll find out on Friday when i get my board & memory ...................
I will be waiting anxiously for your results. I'm sitting here with a MIIF, RE, P7NDiamond and EVGA 780iFTW that i've been testing with this 9650. Even with lower multis the best i can get stable (3hours small fft so far) is 467(1868) FSB (4200mhz) and thats on the EVGA that i got from the egg today. It has issues though and wont detect my xonar. Cant wait for my SIIF to get back from RMA. I had 475(1900) running on the RE but cant confirm stability over 1 hour prime95. I was so anxious to get this 780i in that i didn't test that X48 thorough enough. SLI keeps calling my name so i'm trying to find a reason to go back to nforce. 500FSB on that Gigabyte your linking would slow me down some though. Please let me know how it works out with the 9650. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
I rocked my
Q9650 to 4GHZ @ 1.28v :woot:
Next I will see how high she can fly... :surf:
The rest of the info is in my sig....
Love the Q9650, what a sweet chip!
I found the key to stability at an FSB of over 475 was gained by tweaking the GTL refs. For example, when I found a sweet combination of fsb tem voltage and gtl ref it was prime stable, but if I changed both of them so that the same end value (vtt*gtl) was being used then the system wouldn't be stable. I don't understand enough to explain why this is so, but it did take ages to find a decent combination of vtt and gtl ref. Also, adjusing my clock skew seemed to help. I'm struggling to get stable at anything above 480 but Brolloks over on ocforums is stable at 490 (x48 board). I can get it to post at 499 but anything over 500 is proving less easy. Probably something needs to be tweaked!
I'm at the edge of what I consider safe voltage (~1.4v vcore and vtt) though so I don't have a lot of headroom to feed it more. Can't afford to kill this q9650! Not yet anyway.
Nice to see that GTL's helped on your situation, Can you tell me wich value did you end as VTT x GTL ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pascalbrown
Becouse its nice to see does any of those formulas about GTL be right, as the say Vtt x GTL should be 0.8-1.1 !
Im skeptical about those results in the links but I look forwards to see if it helps you on Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
GTL REF 0/2 set to 0.650 and the vtt at 1.36. This is for stability at 475. If I change either of those values by one increment i lose stability. Strange, but true!Quote:
Originally Posted by carepolice
I want to get stable at 490+ though. Don't know if I dare increase voltages anymore.
could anyone tell me where to get the new bios for the evga 780i I can't find them I'm currently running no5 but the vdroop is huge like I'll set it at 1.40 in bios and get 1.37 in windows and 1.32 at load which I'm worried about my chip having to many volts so can't go higher and if anyone knows what the other voltage setting are for as they don't say nb and sb
Yea Bigslappy. I'm interested to see your results with the UD3 and the Q9650.. Please post asap when you get her going.
also system Viper.. In your sig I see you have the Giga 45-UD3P.. thats the new Ultra Durable that Fugger was saying he got a 540 FSB with.. on the QX9650.. you have it, with a Q9650. Would you possibly wanna see how high you can overclock that thing.. I see you have more than one Q9650. Sure would be nice. I wish I had a second one. I love them. lol.
Also Guys. I had a question still not answered. Do you guys when saying this is how much voltage I needed. or when you say the safe voltage is 1.3625v is that in BIOS. or in CPU-Z. like right now for 4.0 Ghz stable I'm at 1.3312v in BIOS. but in CPU-Z thats 1.296v I see many people's Sig's saying I'm stable at this speed with this voltage. and it's the CPU-Z voltage. So is that what I should go on. as thats what my CPU is actually getting. So as long as CPU-Z is under 1.3625 I'm ok. or should I stay under that in the BIOS..?? Please let me know someone.. Thanks.
whatever CPU-Z shows is what you should believe! Think of the BIOS setting more as a guide to where it might be!
Oh ok, great. Thanks. so like yours.. your at 4.3 Ghz at 1.4v but it's higher than that in BIOS.. but ur taking the 1.4v and saying that cuz thats what it reads in CPU-Z. cool thanks for the info
Also what are your idle, load temps at 1.4v with that on ur true? and whats ur FSB/VTT voltage?
xguntherc i got your pm but..
how can i help you/anyone else if you guys dont want to go over certain voltages.. ? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
some of you live and die by the asus brand.. fine.. so you shall be stuck at low quad fsb.. :D
look guys.. when it comes to hard overclocking.. throw your brand loyalties out the window.. ive napalmed asus myself but to each his own.. :)
if you guys want high clocks/fsb stop believing cpu/volts myths.. that would be a start :up:
and for goodness sake adjust your psus.. you guys want to listen to someone at 4ghz-4.5ghz or listen to someone at 5ghz ? up to you.. but if you have to ask me how to adjust the psu rail/s.. im very hesitant to say the least.. but im willing to help anyways..
everything ive posted in this very thread is OC 101.. some have to skooled when it comes to ocing and im not referring to the "light weights" as put by utnorris
p45 mobo suggestion: beefy R80 chokes.. ep45 dq6/extreme features 12 x R80 chokes.. why do you guys think i can clock up to 4.9ghz on air besides voltages ?
to sustain/to even os boot @ 4.8ghz psu v12 @ no less than 12.5
if your psu is made by iron man tony stark.. well maybe then youll be able to run 5ghz quad @ 12v straight
and dont worry.. i will help as much as i can even if i have to deal with ego inflated jealous *******s :)
post all your Qs here publicly so others will see/learn/pick up/etc..
please adjust psu rails at your own risk
be sure you know whats involved
loss of warranty/psu
loss of parts due to high voltages
heres a procedure on how to adjust/monitor your psus rail/s..
open up your psu if you cant adjust v12 from the outside..
look for the v12 pot.. if yours features just 1 pot.. it is most likely the v12 pot.. turn clockwise left to right.. how much? well now that is the Q.. just an itzi bitzi bit.. but enough to turn the pot at least.. maybe you have a variable pot around to practice on so you get a feel.. better yet how about a guide to get you guys started:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=37574 courtesy of Hell-Fire
hook up the psu to the mobo.. thats it just the mobo+psu
hook up your multimeter to the psu negative.. the 4pin peripheral connector will do.. to monitor 12v rail: yellow end + to monitor 5v rail: red end @ 4pin peripheral connector.. 12v monitoring also @ pcie connectors.. to monitor 3.3v rail: orange wire @ back of sata connector
but id say just adjust/monitor v12 for starters.. enough to get the most out of your mobo.. 5v and 3.3v as a last resort.. if its a beefy/well made psu you wont have to worry about 5v and 3.3v the psu will take care of that by itself
alright.. power up! while staring at your multimeter.. if ~12.5 its fine
if its higher than that.. shut down immediately!
turn down the v12 pot.. power up again.. if its within 12.5 your fine.. if its higher.. shut down immediately!.. turn some more down
if your @ 12.4 no problem.. leave it as is.. you can adjust it later
install cpu
power up! if your v12 rail doesnt drop more .05 leave it as is
install your ram
power up! if your v12 rail doesnt drop more than .05 leave as is
install your vga
power up! if your v12 rail doesnt drop more than .05 leave it as is
install everything else
power up! if your v12 drops to 12.4 from 12.5 @ mobo+psu its fine leave it as is and continue with your oc
if want to go for more v12 after your highest oc.. increase your v12 a bit more so that @ your highest oc your system is @ no less than 12.4-12.45
oh and this is @ 1000watt beefy psu like the OP1000 ;) even the OP1200 :)
please adjust psu rails at your own risk
be sure you know whats involved
loss of warranty/psu
loss of parts due to high voltages
Awesome.. Thanks for responding to me. and posting for everyone to get the info.. I read Hellfires thead. very informative.
I have the Corsair HX520.. I've heard they have good PSU's.. it shows 11.92 in BIOS.. Do I have to add the VR's or do some newer PSU's have the Pot like you mentioned.. hopefully I can just open it and turn from there.. Also is there any way I can check it without it being hooked up to anything other than the Voltage Meter. just to be safe on my parts.
edit* also Napalm. I am willing to go over those voltage marks.. I just don't want to kill my chip., but I guess thats the risk we take in wanting the best performance we can get. right. I did have a question for you. what did you decide on for your Q9650's 24/7 usage? and what FSB/VTT you using. don't tell us all the rest of the settings though. there "needs" to be a little trial and error right.
@ Napalm, do you think your chip would have gone over 500FSB without the mods to you PSU ?
Im not going to be modding mine and just wondered if i should give up trying new mobo's to get to 500FSB.
I don't know my idle temps, but my loads temps are about 69/70C. My vtt is set to 1.36 with the gtl ref 0/2 set to 0.65. If I change either setting by one notch I lose stability. Getting stable at 490+ is definitely possible but will probably require lots and lots of time to tweak it and the possibility of slightly higher voltages.
Out of interested I've just checked my 12v and it's running at 11.88 or 11.93 depending on load. I wonder if that's holding back stability...
Do you guys think a Q9650 @ 4Ghz+ should last in a top spec gaming pc till 32nm Nehalem/Westmere is out in 2010
of course will be updating my graphics card often
or should i just keep my Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz
the problem is im starting a masters degree and i dont want to be distracted with constant PC upgrades
i would like to build a pc NOW and be happy with the performance for the next 2 years so i can focus all my time on my studies
If you want something new to play with then the Q9650 is awesome, but in all actuality the q6600 should be ok for awhile...in terms of games and things the difference is not very significant yet ......also I'm on a motorsport engineering master's course and yet I still am distracted by puter stuffs :/
@NapalmV5 thats gold right there :up:
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Originally Posted by Sem
TEMPS it's all about temps......... IMO
the Q9650 Runs way cool next to that Toaster of a Q6600 & we still have head room on the O/C'in the Q9650 @ 4GHz still looking for it's sweet spot !
Soo yeah get the Q9650 & yer good till the software makers catch up to the i7's >32nm Nehalem/Westmere> LOL the hardware to support that Q9650 is dropping by the day ............ Go water !!
I'd get the Q9650.. it's cooler like Big said.. it's something new you can play with for a while. and it will for SURE last you with top performance til 2010.. I mean look at when the Q6600's first came out. they are still great. and even though the Q9650 isn't way way better.. YET. but soon it will be. they already get 10% increase in performance clock for clock over the 65nm chips. I'd get one. and when games and such catch up. you'll have one of the best til 32nm Neh comes out.. thats what I'm doing.. Waiting for 32nm Nehalem. and I'm pretty sure this will last me.
also pascal. I'm wondering the same thing about mine. I have a Q9650 at 4.0 Ghz, and a GTX260 fully overclocked.. 7 120mm fans, 2 22's and everything in my sig, all working off my HX520. I'm wondering if I'm getting pretty close for this thing? I wonder if the HX620 would give me better results as it's more efficient on the 12v rails... and weather I'm at idle, or load. my 12v rail stays at 11.92.. so I'm not sure if thats causing it either.. good question. Maybe Napalm can answer that. I do know without modding them to 12.4 like he said.. 4.5 ghz and above will be very hard to hit without serious voltage and water.!
P45-UD3P came today, 9650 arrives tomorrow :up:
I'll be taking it easy on the cpu for the first few days, but I can post batch#(ordered it from the Egg.) and prelim results.
right guys i decided to stop at 4ghz for the time being which will benifit gaming more
500 x 8
or
475 x 8.5
or
450 x 9
cpu temps are not a problem at 450 x 9 @ 1.336 vcore. 6 hours prime stable max core temp is 53.
and get this using ocz flex 9200 4gb kit was able to get 1200mhz 4-4-4-14 @2.15v
right guys i decided to stop at 4ghz for the time being which will benifit gaming more
500 x 8
or
475 x 8.5
or
450 x 9
cpu temps are not a problem at 450 x 9 @ 1.336 vcore. 6 hours prime stable max core temp is 53.
and get this using ocz flex 9200 4gb kit was able to get 1200mhz 4-4-4-14 @2.15v
Can you do 500 x 8 ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flinch
Bah!
Has no-one got both the P45-UD3P and a Q9650 yet ? It always seems to be one or the other.
The suspense is killing me :p:
I got the P45-ud3P & my Q9650 up & running last nite loadded on a new setup & hhd ,OS Vista64 water block CPU only loopQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
BUT HELL I'm used to asus Bios so the learning curve is steep with the Gigabite Bios screens & I need to flash the Bios that HiCooke is using, Soo give me a chance to laern afew tricks with Gigabite any help would be Greatly in Thanks From This Guy !!
it's a VERY NICE BOARD ! booted right up No Problemo !
even ordered another Q9650 & am selling my QX9770
OK, then show me 500+ FSB later :)
I can then press the buy button and lose this P5Q .
just got my 2nd q9650 :D
L827B623
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5246/4500no9.jpg
right off the bat 500x9 @ full load.. same setup/ep45 dq6/ifx14 cooler/etc.
@ Napalm, do you reckon you could hit 500FSB without your PSU mods ?
WTF thats all the voltage it takes with the psu mod do you wanna trip to england to do mine for meQuote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
have you primed that yet
Here's my stepping, but can't find any info on it:L825B513-9/17/08
The RMA on my Q9650 was approved and a new chip was shipped back to me today. My rig has down for a week and now I am not so sure I want to put the new chip back in this board as ASUS suggests and have it fry the new one also. Waiting on an ASUS response now. I might get an 8400 for this RE.
So the question now is what other boards are having good results with the Q9650? I have a 4870X2 so should I be looking at a P45 or another X48?
the q9650 seems to be all about the VID 1.20 is the best i think and 1.25 is the worst well saying that i am stable at 4ghz with a VID of 1.25 and vcore of just under 1.29 which is nothing given you can take these upto 1.40 - 1.45. so i dont think there are any rules with these chips seems the game has changed and the 1 thing that will hold you back is you mobo's fsb wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flinch
:up:!THE QUESTION IS HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE YOUR BEFORE IT CRAPS OUT!:up:
sorry to go back to this after all this time but the great white by scan they used 1.62 or somthing near there to get 4.4ghz. im priming my evga 780i not the the 790i that they used but no real diffrence stable for prime blend for 10mins now on 1.38 vcore beat that SCAN!!!:ROTF:
What are you loading that with ? Those are awesome temps if its prime and air at that voltage. I hit 70+ 1.39v SmallFFT with TRUEx2 Panflo. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
VID range for these proc'sQuote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
0.85V – 1.3625V
also I noticed as another did that coretemp read the VID wrong on my chip. In bios the Auto default on my chip is 1.245 not 1.25.
isnt that for you guys to explore/figure/find out ? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
not yet primed.. im gonna start @ 4ghz and work my way up.. gotta do some breaking/burning in..
4 x memtest.. yes all airQuote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
you mean 4.5ghz.. ?
that is the Q.. where are the 1.15/1.05/.095/.085vid q9650s and all the others in between ???Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
well guys.. i barely had minutes to play around.. but got 4.8ghz out of this lousy 1.25vidder
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4447/4806zo8.jpg
though @ higher vcore than my other 1.2125vid q9650 but this cpu hasnt popped yet
What do you mean this CPU hasn't popped yet.. did the other one Die??????? if so I wonder why? could it be the voltage or vtt you gave it.
also thats a GREAT clock already sir. Thats just crazy how easy you can do that. I'm thinkin it MUST be the PSU Mod.. thats probably it. I'm planning on doing it to my HX520 eventually. but thats the only PSU I have. wouldn't wanna kill my only PSU. Maybe I should order something else just in case.
Also how in the hell are you at 4.5 Ghz.. on FULL load with only load temps of 45-47 MAX.. thats just crap. the IFX-14 isn't THAT great is it. I heard it's not much better than the TRUE, but by those results it sounds great.. you have 2 fans on it I'm assuming. or even 3.. and are they 150CFM loud boys?
with my Tuniq Tower and 1.304v at 4.0 Ghz I'm getting load temps in small FFT's around 62/56/56/56 Thats higher than MOST are getting. I'm wondering if my Tuniq is messed up. I've been thinking about buying a true, or a IFX-14.. some guy wants to switch his TRUE, for my tuniq, as it doesn't fit his new case. and the tuniq will. but he drilled into it with the bolt through mod. I'm not sure I wanna trade, as it might be all messed up. waiting for pictures right now.
edit* better idea.. is there any PSU's that come with the adjusters stock.. instead of having to mod it.. Can I buy a PSU with them inside it like you said they "Might have"
do you know Napalm.. if so, then maybe I'll buy that. I don't wanna spend over $175 though if I can.. I only need around 700w or so.. as I'm using a 520 now.. and I might go SLI in future.. let me know? thanks!
My Gigabyte Odin GT800 allows me to adjust the 12v line via software in windows, pretty sweet. I adjusted mine up to 12.04v, but I haven't had time to play with it, also I am using a QX9650. Currently at 4200 at 1.40v. GTL Ref adjustments seem to help a lot.
ordered another Q9650 DAMN these are addicting ! 1st one = 4Ghz @ 38.38.38.41 100% load
xguntherc
lol.. it didnt die still kicking hard.. what i mean by pop is like corn pop after burn in.. whether itll pop or not.. ill see if it clocks at lower vcore or clocks higher
i never said its just the psu.. just the mobo.. just the cpu.. just the cooling.. its a combo of all
yes the 2 x ystech 7.92w fans probably rated @ 125-130cfm which @ 12.5v is louder than normal and the ifx14 @ 73 F ambient are able to handle the loads @ 4.5ghz @ those temps.. i have 2 x tuniq tower the cooler handles 4ghz fine but not 4.5ghz
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one sandwiched the other cools the cpu/vga/nb/sb/ram/the whole mobo
the beefiest 750watt pcpower&cooling under 150$ should be able to handle 4.5ghz.. road-runner in this thread posted 4.6ghz
if any of you would be able to run 4.5ghz @ full load on a 500watt psu id be shocked
again no gtl adjusting.. not saying that gtl doesnt work.. it is smtg i dont/never rely on
Ya I was looking at some PC Power and Cooling PSU's. they have adjustable POT's. but they are expensive, plus the adjustable POT's didn't help much in the reviews I read.. I wonder if my PSU is supplying enough power for my system? I think it's probably ok.
I did look up the Odin GT. I checked out the software. looks pretty good. I wouldn't mind having that one.
also Nice bigslappy.. I sure WISH I had the funds to get a second one as you are... and that I had water to get those type of temps. if I could.. I'd be doing 4.3 Ghz 24/7 probably.. or maybe a little less.
Also I noticed you have both PC P&C PSU's. they have adjustable POT's. do you dare get the needed tools to turn them up and see if they help your overclocks as Napalm has said?
For the past week i've been playing with EVGA 780i FTW, MSI p&N Diamond, Rampage Formula and a MIIF. The Maximus i am the most pleased with so far. I've ran a couple of 1 hour Blend/Small FFT with no errors. Definatley more to Stability tests to come.
Memory is on auto, i'll tweak that after i find my max fsb. Needless to say I;m pleased with this 9650 and Maximus II Formula.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4461/62753409ma5.jpg
do you guys oc @ fsb/ram 1:1 ratio or some other crikey ratio ?
i see you nugzo @ 1:1 but referring to everyone
:yepp:I'm 1:1 atm till i find max OC. I'm using 2gb modules so 1:1 is prolly it for me.Quote:
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Go with the EP45-UD3P Gigabyte , that 4870X2 with do nicely on that board & they are get Great O/C's with it & best od all it's CHEAP I got mine @ NewEgg for $116 free shipping :up:
gonna work on that REAL soon Just got a PC PWR & cooling 1200w fer $425 NEW free shipping on Amazon a steal ! & i'm gonna drive it like i stole it TOO !Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
DAMN that's nice !!Quote:
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How do you guys are removing the void warranty stickers? If the PSU go pufff because of a 'birth defect' but the labels where taken you guys are taking the loss? :smoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
If you wanna adjust the rails without losing warranty:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=204629
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Hello all ! lots of good info in here Wow you guys are getting some great numbers in here! iv'e i couple of Questions if you all don't mind :
currently running a amd 9850 @2.6 on a m32a32mvp with a couple of 3870's and getting ****ed as i can't get it any higher no matter what i try , and think i'm just now havin a pci-e slot failure so i'm going to make the big switch to intel /nvidia (been a long while)
Looking at maybe a Q9650 quad, i what to be around that price range, so what is a good ocing board, iv'e heard that nvidia chipsets not good at ocing intel quads? so intel chipset better? been a asus guy for a long time , don't need to stay that way just not sure what else could be better.
i would like to get over 3.0 as much as i can for about 500$ chip w/h2o and sli for sure. looks like your getting into the 4's and stable,cool!
Thanks for your time and sorry if i'm in the wrong thread for this, wasn't sure were else to go. :D
SG,
790i boards i think ......but i'm not a nvidia expert... but the EP45-ud3p is hot one >intel chipset
go for the 750i for two way sli or 780i which have both proven to hit over 4ghz with ease the little extra to 4.2-4.5 wont get you any better gameing performance! or you could go Crossfire i would recommend the evga 780i or 750i with two gtx 260's in sli and then overclock the lot can play crysis @ 1920x1080 on max settings at stock and even better overclocked. which means this will play pretty much every game for the next few years. well i hope. good look finding what you want. hope this has helped
Guys congrats for the good Q9650 batches !! anyone willing to sell its first Q9650 that can go at least 4050 with a good vcore and temps cands send me a message
Cheers
Sergio
i read that looking @ your avatar :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
thanks.. and good luck @ ud3+q9650
andre just get a B one.. 4.5ghz guaranteed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
and heres my 2nd q9650 @ 4.9ghz on air
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4319/4905zr0.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434280
1.2500vid: higher vcore @ lower temps
1.2125vid: lower vcore @ higher temps
no matter how you slice and dice vid.. theres always a balance :D
Where are you in greenland or the northpole to get those temps on air?
Yeah, 780i boards good for about 440-450FSB, 790i boards a little better to around 475, some reports are higher but I'm yet to get one that does. Tried 3 Striker 2 Extremes and they all max'd out around 475 using 2 different QX9650's. Main thing though is that they become unstable at high (more than 4.2 GHZ) CPU speeds regardless of multi used. The good thing is that they are a genuinely fast boards although they don't overclock as well as P45, X38 or X48 chipsets.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrgtGoat
Have 2 identical machines, one has a Striker 2 Extreme and the other a Rampage Extreme. The Rampage clocks noticeably higher and benches higher generally ( except memory read & latency ) , but the Striker based system is way faster in Windows and is game killer with 2 x GTX 280's. I have not tried any Crossfire setups so graphics performance may be equal to or better than an SLi setup !@!
Bottom line is........If you want bragging rights for overclocking ( and don't misunderstand here, the guys in this thread deserve all the praise we can bestow) go Intel chipset. If you want an extremely responsive system, go the 790i setup. Your clocks will definitely not be as high but Windows will be lightening fast when matched up with the right ancillary hardware. However, be warned that nVidia chipsets are not as easy to clock successfully as Intel. Be prepared for some painful episodes before you get it right, but it is worth it.
I've got a Gigabyte EP45T Extreme coming in tomorrow as that seems to be one of the favoured board's in this thread and I'll see how it performs. If it outperforms the Striker 2 Extreme ( in all around responsiveness and not purely overclocking numbers which I'm sure it will do easily ) then to quote NapalmV5 " I'll napalm ASUS" and move on.
Taking all into account though, I have not clocked either of these systems successfully over 4.5GHz ( with a quad that is ..) and big things happen speed wise when you get over that number with high FSB speeds..
I have the same question as SrgtGoat. I am also going the way of Q9650 and want to know the best board available. I would think it is the P53E but just wanted to make sure. Any recommendations on RAM would be appreciated as well. I am thinking about the Corsair Dominator XMS2 8500. Planning on running this with PC P&C 750 W supply. Also planning on getting a 4870 X2 and go crossfire maybe in the future :cool:
I have the eVGA 750i and I've hit a 470 FSB.. and could probably do more but not tried yet.. thats over 4.2 Ghz on my Q9650.. So my 750i is workin pretty good so far.
also to Napalm and all you others.. question. I see you said that your not sure anyone could hit 4.5 Ghz with a 500w PSU.. and I see your point. I have the Corsair HX520. I've heard they are really good PSU's. but today I saw something that worried me. I downloaded CPUID's HwMonitor. and the PSU voltages were NOT good. Here. check it out for yourself.
Now this is a SS of my system. with 4.0 Ghz at 444FSB.. with a 1:1 Divider and my GTX260 from 576MHz to 730 Mhz. (great Card.) and the temps.. bla bla bla.
Here's what worried me. I've said a few times before that my PSU's 12v rail was running at 11.92 but this is what HwMontitor reads.. NOT good. but could be wrong.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4...zfullssyk4.jpg
12v Rail is at 7.39v.. (Can't be right) I'd be having Major issues right? I just played 3 hours of HL2 EP1 with NO problems at 4.0 Ghz. There's no way it would be stable with 7.30v on 12v rail right?
then the 3.3 is at 3.0v thats ok i guess. then the 5v at 4.56. thats ok but could be better. (Are these wrong)
In the BIOS the 12v rail reads 11.92 instead of this 7.36v BS.. So I'm just not sure now. and Napalm, you said a 500w couldn't push 4.5 Ghz.. what would.. the Corsair Hx620.. or should I go bigger? 750, 800. and also do you think my current PSU is "NOT" enough.. or is it ok?
Here's my hwmonitor screen, same psu as you have!
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1...520whz8.th.jpghttp://img234.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Your sure that you use lates hwmonitor?
Why doesnt my monitor show +5V rail at all ??
ohhh... thats NOT good..
haha $#!T!
Where is your 5v rail in that picture.. also it says this in monitor. but 11.92 in my BIOS. why would it be so off.. also mine shouldn't be even at 11.92.. cuz I'm not using all 520w.. the efficiency should be higher with the less voltage you use..
I don't know. thats not cool. but thanks for posting that. now I know something MIGHT be wrong... Ahh..
Installed everest and it shows 5v rail !Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
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Speaking of voltages......
Which version of CPU-Z do you believe ???????
vcore in BIOS set at 1.400v
I tried the dominators on a Striker 2 Formula and Rampage Formula a while back.Quote:
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Striker hated them, Rampage liked em !!!!
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@ Bigslappy
Any luck getting near 500FSB with the EP45-UD3P ?
If you looking for a power supply with a good 12v rail without any mod, you might want to take a look at this:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory2&reid=104
I have used HW Monitor and I have always had issues with it reporting correct voltages on my Asus boards, almost seems like a compatability issue. I use the included software with my Odin in conjuction with the Asus monitor software to monitor my voltages. Seems to work well.
:rofl: guess i'll rename for NapalmV6 :rofl: then buy a Q9650, very lucky guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
cheers and congratz Nap for your B batches !
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markost could you share you bios settings for this nice overclock:up:. I just purchased a QX9650 and given the challange of getting this motherboard stable with a dual core, I should would like a head start with this quad core. I took me :shrug:a week to get this motherboard stable when I first got it. Thanks in advance.